RUMOR: Gobert close to demanding "him or me" with Mitchell?

[Shogon]

https://twitter.com/realOCsports/status/1521141215411941376?s=20&t=-RiKPjPhixLUxIQy7aD8Wg


I know I am not usually @utahjazz
breaking news guy, but a source close to situation has informed me that Rudy Gobert is at "him or me" point with Donovan Mitchell and will demand that one of them be traded in next few days. Doesn't feel they will win championship together.


Rudy feels that his own numbers are consistent or getting better, while Don is D liability and is falling off in terms of explosiveness. Gobert also aware of at least 1 Western Conference power that would be willing to pay handsomely for his abilities. (NBA teams never tamper..)

:roll:

Mitchell has always been overrated but Gobert isn't going to be the lead dog on a title team. Either way...

:roll:

[999Guy]

You realize bad defenders never ever win titles right? Most of NBA history is defenses mucking shit up and winning.

Mitchell’s a golden bum in reality with his flaws. Gobert can go somewhere and immediately create the best team ever.

[John_Connor]

there's been a ton of great offensive players with poor defense that have led teams to titles.

never has a guy with overrated obsolete defense with no offense ever led a team to a title

[Akeem34TheDream]

Gobert needs a ball hog pg that will only pass lobs to him. Him and Luka or him and Trae first comes to mind. Actually Hawks with Gobert would be lowkey sick.

[Shogon]

Gobert needs a ball hog pg that will only pass lobs to him. Him and Luka or him and Trae first comes to mind. Actually Hawks with Gobert would be lowkey sick.

He needs James Harden from like 4+ years ago.

[Shogon]

You realize bad defenders never ever win titles right? Most of NBA history is defenses mucking shit up and winning.

Mitchell’s a golden bum in reality with his flaws. Gobert can go somewhere and immediately create the best team ever.

What? Neither one of these guys are going to a title as the the best player on the team. Gobert as the second best player with an absolute monster of a star on the team... MAYBE.

Mitchell... just no.

[Akeem34TheDream]

He needs James Harden from like 4+ years ago.

I agree Gobert is basically a better version of Capela.

[Xiao Yao You]

I agree Gobert is basically a better version of Capela.

and yet the Hawks were awful on D and the Jazz weren't when Gobert was on the floor

[Xiao Yao You]

The Raptors could be active on the trade market again looking to add a starting center. The emergence of Scottie Barnes suddenly gives the Raptors more trade options. For example, could OG Anunoby become expendable in their pursuit of an impactful big man? The Raptors have thrived in the regular season with their small starting lineup but they didn’t have much of an answer for Joel Embiid in the playoffs. They make a lot of sense as a Rudy Gobert suitor should the Jazz decide to make significant changes. (https://*********.com/lists/raptors-offseason-preview-extensions-rudy-gobert-pursuit-and-more/) A package including Anunoby, salary filler, and multiple first-round picks could be appealing. There would be a lot of competition for his services and the Raptors could have one of the stronger packages out there.
– via Yossi Gozlan @ ********* (https://*********.com/lists/raptors-offseason-preview-extensions-rudy-gobert-pursuit-and-more/)

[Manny98]

Jazz will continue to be first round fodder with Rudy as the franchise player, not going anywhere with him leading your team

[dirkdiggler41]

Jazz will continue to be first round fodder with Rudy as the franchise player, not going anywhere with him leading your team

Nobody is saying Gobert should be the franchise player, they are saying DM is a bad franchise player. Nobody thinks of Gobert as a franchise player.

[NBAGOAT]

well it's going be mitchell they build around just based on his age. capela/huerter for gobert time. Then trade conley for a wing

[hold this L]

Rudy is a significantly better and more impactful player than Mitchell, even with his defensive woes.

[Proctor]

No doubt a one of a kind defensive player, but he's one dimensional. If you can't play him in the playoffs, and you can't afford to pay him, he probably belongs elsewhere. Back to beekeeping in France hopefully

[Manny98]

Nobody is saying Gobert should be the franchise player, they are saying DM is a bad franchise player. Nobody thinks of Gobert as a franchise player.
Tell that to the troll :oldlol:

[jayfan]

Rich man's version of Andre Drummond & Reggie Jackson in Detroit. Neither were equipped to be team leaders & foundation pieces, either together or individually.


* Though Drummond & RJ had no animosity with each other.

[Xiao Yao You]

well it's going be mitchell they build around just based on his age. capela/huerter for gobert time. Then trade conley for a wing

you're losing if you trade Gobert. Don't want Capela. Need expiring contracts and assets

[Xiao Yao You]

Rudy is a significantly better and more impactful player than Mitchell, even with his defensive woes.

Being that his defensive woes are having to guard his teammates guys as well as his own

[Xiao Yao You]

https://sircharlesincharge.com/2022/05/01/nba-mock-draft-knicks-mitchell-smith/2/

not unless Barrett is coming west

[Kblaze8855]

Dallas may not work. Kidd had a comment that may not sit well with a guy who probably thinks shooting 70%(like Deandre Jordan and other dunkers who need guards to put every basket in their lap) means he needs touches:


"We have to adapt," Mavericks coach Jason Kidd said. "Our game plan against Utah is not going to work against the Suns. We've already changed that mindset because we're not playing the Jazz. ... (Ayton and company) can hurt you in the paint.
This isn't Gobert or Whiteside. These guys can put the ball in the basket.''

Rudy seems like he might be the sensitive type.

[jayfan]

you're losing if you trade Gobert. Don't want Capela. Need expiring contracts and assets


Just out of curiosity, Yao.... would you trade Gobert for Ayton?

.

[Xiao Yao You]

Just out of curiosity, Yao.... would you trade Gobert for Ayton?

.


contracts don't work

if you're looking to tank sure.

[jayfan]

contracts don't work

if you're looking to tank sure.

Disregarding contracts.

[rawimpact]

Mitchell for Westbrook

[ArbitraryWater]

Gobert is at best a 3rd option on a title team


like DeAndre Jordan on the Lob City Clips


thats Gobert

[ArbitraryWater]

Rudy is a significantly better and more impactful player than Mitchell, even with his defensive woes.


the trolls are out

[Xiao Yao You]

Disregarding contracts.

I'm not big on tanking personally

[Xiao Yao You]

Gobert is at best a 3rd option on a title team


like DeAndre Jordan on the Lob City Clips


thats Gobert

Jordan wasn't a one man defense

[jayfan]

I'm not big on tanking personally


Come on, dude. You honestly think Ayton is that steep a drop from Gobert?

[Xiao Yao You]

Come on, dude. You honestly think Ayton is that steep a drop from Gobert?

The Jazz have won for 7 plus years when Gobert is on the court. The Suns were a lottery team before Chris Paul. Ayton and Mitchell aren't going anywhere. Jazz were 28th in D without Gobert on the floor.

[Overdrive]

Hope they trade Gobert to a lottery team. Wanna see what that franchise player AT-great is made of.

[HylianNightmare]

Blow it up. They'll be better with a different big that can space for dmitch

[FultzNationRISE]

The irony is both guys are a dying breed, and not in a good way.

The game isnt about small guards or lumbering bigs anymore. It’s about a team full of 6’7-6’9 athletes who can shoot.

A small guard like Chris Paul or Trae Young has to be a great passer. A lumbering big like Jokic or Embiid has to be able to shoot.

Mitchel cant pass and Rudy cant shoot. These are not max contract guys in this league anymore.

In the 90s? Yes, both max guys.

Today?

Role players.

Giving those guys big deals was terrible foresight by the Jazz, altho I can understand their temptation to be immediately decent rather than immediately terrible.

In the end tho, theyll never get off the treadmill with those guys.

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Flip him with Capella and call it a day

[Xiao Yao You]

Hope they trade Gobert to a lottery team. Wanna see what that franchise player AT-great is made of.

we've already seen seen that

[Xiao Yao You]

Joel Embiid hails from Cameroon, but in the upcoming Olympic Games, he may compete as a member of the French national team. (https://www.eurohoops.net/en/national-teams/1340529/joel-embiid-getting-the-french-nationality/) Per a report by French outlet RMC Sport, the NBA top scorer of the 2021-22 season has initiated administrative procedures to obtain the French nationality.

– via EuroHoops.net (https://www.eurohoops.net/en/national-teams/1340529/joel-embiid-getting-the-french-nationality/)




At 28, the Philadelphia 76ers player may finally get the jersey of the French national team and according to the same report, a visit to France is planned by the end of June to finalize the paperwork. (https://www.eurohoops.net/en/national-teams/1340529/joel-embiid-getting-the-french-nationality/) FIBA ​​regulations allow only one naturalized player per national team. The France team has never used it until now, so it would be a first.
– via EuroHoops.net (https://www.eurohoops.net/en/national-teams/1340529/joel-embiid-getting-the-french-nationality/)






The general manager of the French Basketball Federation, Patrick Beesley had declared that the addition of Embiid was possible. There had already been contacts two years earlier (https://www.eurohoops.net/en/national-teams/1340529/joel-embiid-getting-the-french-nationality/).
– via EuroHoops.net (https://www.eurohoops.net/en/national-teams/1340529/joel-embiid-getting-the-french-nationality/)







Rudy Gobert: Everyday has it’s own new “rumor” (https://*********.com/social/tweets/)

– via Twitter rudygobert27 (https://twitter.com/rudygobert27)



Might see a Gobert/Embiid front court! :cheers:

[Manny98]

Hawks seem like a great destination for Rudy, him and Trae on the pick and roll would be deadly

Gobert for Capela and Collins

[RRR3]

Hawks seem like a great destination for Rudy, him and Trae on the pick and roll would be deadly

Gobert for Capela and Collins
Can’t wait for Xiao to tell us how Trra is the worst player ever.

[Proctor]

Hawks seem like a great destination for Rudy, him and Trae on the pick and roll would be deadly

Gobert for Capela and Collins
That would be so nasty and great for Utah. I'd love some Mitchell and Collins. Hawks get slightly better too but they're still a first round exit because of Gobert's deficiencies. As Kidd said, he's no Ayton.

[Xiao Yao You]

can't quit me

[FultzNationRISE]

Hawks seem like a great destination for Rudy, him and Trae on the pick and roll would be deadly

Gobert for Capela and Collins


I agree that could be good for both teams.

Jazz can play a little more fast break, up tempo stuff. Capella doesnt care how many shots Donovan takes.

Altho I still dont see it really getting the Jazz anywhere.

Toody obviously gives the Hawks some needed rebounding, and a bigger pick n roll target. Is he gonna complain about Trae’s shot selection tho? Trae’s a better passer than Mitchell, but he still throws up plenty of early shot clock heaves.

Neither team really contends by staying pat, altho if DeAndre Hunter takes another step I still think ATL can be dangerous. I could see it being a solid gamble for both.

[Xiao Yao You]

I agree that could be good for both teams.

Jazz can play a little more fast break, up tempo stuff. Capella doesnt care how many shots Donovan takes.

Altho I still dont see it really getting the Jazz anywhere.

Toody obviously gives the Hawks some needed rebounding, and a bigger pick n roll target. Is he gonna complain about Trae’s shot selection tho? Trae’s a better passer than Mitchell, but he still throws up plenty of early shot clock heaves.

Neither team really contends by staying pat, altho if DeAndre Hunter takes another step I still think ATL can be dangerous. I could see it being a solid gamble for both.

Gets the jazz in lottery.

[LeCola]

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[Xiao Yao You]

Jazz need to tank if they trade their best player. Expiring contracts and assets. ISH doesn't seem to understand how tanking works

[Taurus]

Two players of that caliber are pretty difficult to come by, especially for a team like the Jazz who don't really attract big name free agents

They also both have glaring flaws in their games, so it'll be interesting to see what the FO decides to do.

[8Ball]

Westbrook for Gobert.

[Xiao Yao You]

Two players of that caliber are pretty difficult to come by, especially for a team like the Jazz who don't really attract big name free agents

They also both have glaring flaws in their games, so it'll be interesting to see what the FO decides to do.

exactly. Unless there is something that can't be fixed you keep those guys. COTM has to go as does 6MOTY

[Spurs m8]

Westbrook for Gobert.

Yeah, I'm sure the Jazz owners would love a Westbrook/Mitchell duet

You 10/10 stupid motherfvcker...as usual

[r0drig0lac]

You realize bad defenders never ever win titles right? Most of NBA history is defenses mucking shit up and winning.

Mitchell’s a golden bum in reality with his flaws. Gobert can go somewhere and immediately create the best team ever.

:biggums::coleman::oldlol:

[SATAN]

Westbrook for Gobert.

If Lakers could also get a couple more decent younger shooters or Reaves and THT make a sudden leap it could be pretty crazy tbh. If injuries weren't such an issue again.

Lakers game threads would be chaotic as hell. :lol

Anyway, I can't believe "Toody" has become such a polarizing figure these days. It's kinda weird. :oldlol:

[coin24]

There’d be a lot of interest in toody, he’s wasted on that team..

Hogovan Mitchell sucks