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3ba11
05-09-2022, 11:16 AM
In 19 seasons, Lebron never beat a top 5 SRS team with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick

no carry-jobs against good teams in 2 decades of playing.

That's the historical record, so don't believe the media saying that Giannis and Luka are like Lebron.. In 2007, Lebron only needed 25 on 45% to beat the #6 SRS Pistons, whilst Giannis and Luka need 30+ to carry their teams against the top 2 teams in the league (Suns, Celtics)..

Anytime Lebron beat a top 5 SRS team, he had Wade, Kyrie, AD or Bosh to match or exceed his scoring like the 16' Finals or 11' ECF.. Or he had JR Smith getting 18/8 on 66 true shooting against the 15' Hawks (prime Pippen caliber), or Love getting 21/11 against the 18' Raptors..

He simply never carried bed-wetting teammates over good teams or defeated maximum defensive attention (carried scoring load in Finals) because he lacks the elite jumpshooting skill or post dominance that is needed.. He literally lacks the skills to have carry-jobs against good teams, so he needs juggernaut scoring help, including all-time elite scorers at sidekick.

Hey Yo
05-09-2022, 11:30 AM
But did't need to quit due to softness after just 7yrs of playing

ShawkFactory
05-09-2022, 11:37 AM
4 and 3 games into each series

ArbitraryWater
05-09-2022, 11:39 AM
Or he had JR Smith getting 18/8 on 57% against the 15' Hawks (prime Pippen caliber), or Love getting 21/11 against the 18' Raptors..


why do you just blatantly make shit up?

3ba11
05-09-2022, 11:46 AM
why do you just blatantly make shit up?


JR Smith averaged 18/8 on 66% true shooting.

OP has been corrected.. ty

The point remains...............

ShawkFactory
05-09-2022, 11:48 AM
Also..Holiday has been awesome.

3ba11
05-09-2022, 11:50 AM
Also..Holiday has been awesome.


True... So maybe Giannis hasn't had a top-tier carry-job over a good team either... Only Luka has a chance to

Phoenix
05-09-2022, 12:11 PM
Ah, the pro-Luka personality is on tap today. Tomorrow, personality # 341 will make a thread criticizing Luka's style.

OP upon waking up:

https://c.tenor.com/yFMWmLy1HHEAAAAC/split.gif

insight
05-09-2022, 12:15 PM
Dallas basically won the 1st round without Luka, something he had never done before and you call that carrying a team. LOL!

SouBeachTalents
05-09-2022, 12:20 PM
Dallas basically won the 1st round without Luka, something he had never done before and you call that carrying a team. LOL!
Let's not forget the Bucks literally clinched a trip to the Finals with Giannis missing the end of the conference finals too :lol

3ba11
05-09-2022, 01:27 PM
Dallas basically won the 1st round without Luka, something he had never done before and you call that carrying a team. LOL!


Brunson is averaging 17 on 39% against the Suns

That's weak scoring and efficiency, which means Luka is executing a carry-job against a top 5 SRS opponent - he's on his way to having a carry-job against a good team, which Lebron never had (never beat a top 5 SRS team with bed-wetting teammates, aka weak scoring & efficiency)

Unlike Luka, Lebron lacks the contested jumpshooting ability and pure scoring ability to defeat maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load against the best team or carry bed-wetting teammates over good team)..

Accordingly, Lebron needs juggernaut scoring help including all-time elite scorers at sidekick to win - Luka's superior scoring ability and performance doesn't require that

Gohan
05-09-2022, 01:30 PM
Brunson is averaging 17 on 39% against the Suns

That's weak scoring and efficiency, which means Luka is executing a carry-job against a top 5 SRS opponent - he's on his way to having a carry-job against a good team, which Lebron never had (never beat a top 5 SRS team with bed-wetting teammates, aka weak scoring & efficiency)

Unlike Luka, Lebron lacks the contested jumpshooting ability and pure scoring ability to defeat maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load against the best team or carry bed-wetting teammates over good team)

is that while his teammate shot 8-12 from 3? 3ball... youre a hypocrite and i dont even like lebron that much

3ba11
05-09-2022, 01:33 PM
is that while his teammate shot 8-12 from 3? 3ball... youre a hypocrite and i dont even like lebron that much


Show me where Lebron beat a top 5 SRS team with 17 on 39% from a sidekick - Brunson is currently averaging 17 on 39% against the Suns

Ultimately, Luka is a far superior scorer to Lebron (a "pure" scorer), so he can beat good teams with bed-wetting teammates (carry-job against good team) and Lebron can't

Gohan
05-09-2022, 01:35 PM
Show me where Lebron beat a top 5 SRS team with 17 on 39% from a sidekick - Brunson is currently averaging 17 on 39% against the Suns

Ultimately, Luka is a far superior scorer to Lebron (a "pure" scorer), so he can beat good teams with bed-wetting teammates (carry-job against good team) and Lebron can't

nikka if i go 8-12 from 3 im yo muphuckin sidekick not brunsen

Phoenix
05-09-2022, 01:42 PM
Ultimately, Luka is a far superior scorer to Lebron (a "pure" scorer), so he can beat good teams with bed-wetting teammates (carry-job against good team) and Lebron can't

Cool. So tomorrow #341 will tell us Luka plays an inferior brand of ball that requires talent-based winning, yeah?

3ba11
05-09-2022, 02:11 PM
Cool. So tomorrow #341 will tell us Luka plays an inferior brand of ball that requires talent-based winning, yeah?


Luka's brand is similar to Lebron's except he isn't afraid to take contested jumpers (doesn't have to set up lullaby jumpers) and requires a double team.. His scoring is lethal enough that it's worth compromising the defense by double-teaming (creating a 4-on-3 off-the-ball)..

Otoh, Lebron's scoring was never lethal enough to double and get the ball out of his hands - coaches were content to let the opposing big man dominate the ball (horrible brand of ball).

It's interesting because Luka's time of possession went down 20% in the last 2 games, while his assisted rate quintupled (went from 0 to 5% - yes, Luka didn't have a single assisted bucket in the first 2 games).

So the stats show a distinct change in his style of play that helped the Mavs win - but again, it's his lethal scoring that requires double-teaming - this requires more game-planning and allows the Mavs to compete in this series

Phoenix
05-09-2022, 02:24 PM
Luka's brand is similar to Lebron's except he isn't afraid to take contested jumpers (doesn't have to set up lullaby jumpers) and requires a double team.. His scoring is lethal enough that it's worth compromising the defense by double-teaming (creating a 4-on-3 off-the-ball)..

Otoh, Lebron's scoring was never lethal enough to double and get the ball out of his hands - coaches were content to let the opposing big man dominate the ball (horrible brand of ball).

It's interesting because Luka's time of possession went down 20% in the last 2 games, while his assisted rate quintupled (went from 0 to 5% - yes, Luka didn't have a single assisted bucket in the first 2 games).

So the stats show a distinct change in his style of play that helped the Mavs win - but again, it's his lethal scoring that requires double-teaming - this requires more game-planning and allows the Mavs to compete in this series

Cool. Looking forward to #341 at some point this week going on some Lebron/Luka/Magic/Harden/ weak brand of ball bullshit.

8Ball
05-09-2022, 02:48 PM
Op thinks Giannis is trash :lol

https://i.ibb.co/tMGnRnJ/Screenshot-2021-07-20-180658.png

Nb1
05-09-2022, 02:59 PM
WTF Lebron almost swept one of the best teams in history in the Warriors playing with Mozgiv, Shumpert, Dellavedova and Thompson lol.

Its impressive what Luca is doing, but Lebron has been doing even more carrying so many bums ass** for 19 years...

FKAri
05-09-2022, 03:05 PM
Luka and Giannis never had a carry-job against a good team like Lebron has been doing. That's the historical record. So don't let the media saying these guys are like Lebron.

Gohan
05-09-2022, 05:58 PM
WTF Lebron almost swept one of the best teams in history in the Warriors playing with Mozgiv, Shumpert, Dellavedova and Thompson lol.

Its impressive what Luca is doing, but Lebron has been doing even more carrying so many bums ass** for 19 years...

how in the hell did he almost sweep them? fvcking curry hater i bet you

ArbitraryWater
05-16-2022, 08:47 AM
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