In the 1998 Finals

[Ne 1]

Byron Russell at 6-21 led the Jazz in 3’s for the 1998 Finals.

John Stockton was 2-9 from 3 for the entire 1998 Finals.

Combined. Jeff Hornacek was 3-9 from 3 for the entire 1998 Finals.

Howard Eisley went 1-7 for the whole Finals.

Chris Morris went 0-9.

The entire team was 13-60 combined. FOR THE ENTIRE SERIES!!

They shot 21.7% from 3 :roll::lol. Steve Kerr shot better from 3 than anyone on the Jazz in the 1998 Finals, and he came off the bench. That 90’s shit was trash.

[ArbitraryWater]

Golden Era

[warriorfan]

What about the 2011 finals

[RogueBorg]

Byron Russell at 6-21 led the Jazz in 3’s for the 1998 Finals.

John Stockton was 2-9 from 3 for the entire 1998 Finals.

Combined. Jeff Hornacek was 3-9 from 3 for the entire 1998 Finals.

Howard Eisley went 1-7 for the whole Finals.

Chris Morris went 0-9.

The entire team was 13-60 combined. FOR THE ENTIRE SERIES!!

They shot 21.7% from 3 :roll::lol. Steve Kerr shot better from 3 than anyone on the Jazz in the 1998 Finals, and he came off the bench. That 90’s shit was trash.

Your opinion of an entire decade is based off of 6 games? Seems typical. Did it ever cross your mind that the Jazz low 3-point percentage might be due to the Bulls defense?

In 1997-98 the league shot .346 from 3’s
In 2021-22 the league shot .354 from 3’s

For a league that predicates itself on 3-point shooting, that’s not much better. But believe whatever you want.

[FultzNationRISE]

What about the 2011 finals

Guys, let’s stay on topic please.

[RRR3]

Your opinion of an entire decade is based off of 6 games? Seems typical. Did it ever cross your mind that the Jazz low 3-point percentage might be due to the Bulls defense?

In 1997-98 the league shot .346 from 3’s
In 2021-22 the league shot .354 from 3’s

For a league that predicates itself on 3-point shooting, that’s not much better. But believe whatever you want.
Volume is a foreign concept to you huh.

[ArbitraryWater]

Your opinion of an entire decade is based off of 6 games? Seems typical. Did it ever cross your mind that the Jazz low 3-point percentage might be due to the Bulls defense?

In 1997-98 the league shot .346 from 3’s
In 2021-22 the league shot .354 from 3’s

For a league that predicates itself on 3-point shooting, that’s not much better. But believe whatever you want.

:roll::roll::roll::roll:

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

At least Jordan was facing an all time great in these finals in Karl Malone.

Prime Duncan faced Allan Houston, Jason Kidd and High school LeBron

[3ba11]

What did the Jazz shoot in the 98' WCF against Shaq's 4 all-star Lakers?

What did the Blazers shoot in the 92'WCF?...

Did anyone from today's game shoot better than Terry Porter in the 92' WCF?... What kind of shooter and player was Terry Porter in his 90' and 92' Finals runs?

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

At least Jordan was facing an all time great in these finals in Karl Malone.

Prime Duncan faced Allan Houston, Jason Kidd and High school LeBron

Oh yeah and Chauncey billups how can I forget hahaha

Imagine what jordan would of done to billups and those scrubs, they were like late 90s Miami heat

[Axe]

Calling out all the casuals itb lol

[coastalmarker99]

Malone basically had zero offensive support in the finals that year.

And It wasn't like the Bulls were the prime Bulls. Chicago had 3 guys over 35 in their top-7 and Pippen had missed half that season with an injury and wasn't close to his peak).


Playing against the strong but aging defensive group of MJ/Scottie/Rodman (36 years old) surrounded by not so great players (Longley, Kukoc, Kerr) and a washed 35yo Harper.

Utah supporting cast besides Malone managed the following numbers in the finals.

Stockton: 9-2-8 on 49% shooting, only hit 2 threes all series

Hornacek: 11-3-3 on 41% shooting, only hit 3 threes all series

Russell (added to the starting lineup to guard Jordan): 9-5-0 on 41% shooting

Malone: 25-10-5 on 50% shooting

Keefe: 3-3-0 on 43% shooting

Foster: 1-2-0 on 27% shooting

[GimmeThat]

2022, the Jazz still doesn't run enough screens in comparison to other championship aspiration team, and still relies on length instead of rotation for defense.

[Johnny32]

the 90s was a horrible basketball era. offense was putrid post play and midrange. defenses were elementary in schemes mostly because the rules forced them to play that way. overall a horrific product on both sides of the ball.

[WhiteKyrie]

Bulls defense was bonkers, obviously. Harper, Jordan, Pippen and Rodman? All versatile and have size? Yikes.

[Johnny32]

Bulls defense was bonkers, obviously. Harper, Jordan, Pippen and Rodman? All versatile and have size? Yikes.

lol mj, harp and rodman were all in major decline defensively. the bulls got torched by quick guards for years. casuals are so clueless. they just repeat what the talking heads on tv say.

[WhiteKyrie]

lol mj, harp and rodman were all in major decline defensively. the bulls got torched by quick guards for years. casuals are so clueless. they just repeat what the talking heads on tv say.

Rodman and Harper, yes. But not enough to not have significant impact. And Jordan wasn’t slipping defensively. He lost some of his athletic springs but nah, he could still lock up. You weren’t watching then, just hush.

[Johnny32]

Rodman and Harper, yes. But not enough to not have significant impact. And Jordan wasn’t slipping defensively. He lost some of his athletic springs but nah, he could still lock up. You weren’t watching then, just hush.

you have no clue what you're typing about.

[Baller789]

you have no clue what you're typing about.

:cry:

[Shooter]

#90sBall

:lol

[ImKobe]

Jazz shot lights out from 3 in the first 3 rounds but Bulls' elite perimeter D shut em down.


lol mj, harp and rodman were all in major decline defensively. the bulls got torched by quick guards for years. casuals are so clueless. they just repeat what the talking heads on tv say.

Ok, so how did the Jazz shoot 37+% from 3 in all of their first 3 series and barely shot 20% in the Finals?

[kawhileonard2]

And the Jazz destroyed Hakeem/Barkley/Drexler, Duncan/Robinson, Shaq/Kobe/Jones/Van Exel while Lebron lost to every elite big he faced. Duncan, Dirk, Dwight, KG and even 3 years in a row with HCA.

[Johnny32]

Jazz shot lights out from 3 in the first 3 rounds but Bulls' elite perimeter D shut em down.



Ok, so how did the Jazz shoot 37+% from 3 in all of their first 3 series and barely shot 20% in the Finals?

aren't you the window licking tard who tried to argue the 98 bulls had tougher competition en route to the finals than the 20 lakers? quote me again and you're ignored.

[kawhileonard2]

Need an answer on each thread below.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371[/QUOTE]

[Shooter]

21% from three for the entire team. Good ol 90s ball :roll:

They were still figuring out how to shoot 3s, like cavemen learning how to make fire.

https://i.postimg.cc/Gty1kMJJ/90s_finding_out__about_3_pointers.png

[kawhileonard2]

Need an answer on each thread below.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371[/QUOTE]

[Baller789]

you have no clue what you're typing about.


And the Jazz destroyed Hakeem/Barkley/Drexler, Duncan/Robinson, Shaq/Kobe/Jones/Van Exel while Lebron lost to every elite big he faced. Duncan, Dirk, Dwight, KG and even 3 years in a row with HCA.



Ok, so how did the Jazz shoot 37+% from 3 in all of their first 3 series and barely shot 20% in the Finals?


aren't you the window licking tard who tried to argue the 98 bulls had tougher competition en route to the finals than the 20 lakers? quote me again and you're ignored.

Poor Johnny32, "I'm always mad" reduced to one liners and ad hominem attacks with no valid counter arguments. :oldlol:

[ImKobe]

aren't you the window licking tard who tried to argue the 98 bulls had tougher competition en route to the finals than the 20 lakers? quote me again and you're ignored.

Bulls had a significantly tougher road than the '20 Lakers.

For one, Pippen missed half the season & they didn't have 5 months of rest with no crowds/no traveling in the POs.

Secondly, their opponents weren't going through half as many injuries, while the Lakers played Portland with an injured Dame, Rockets with an injured WB and Heat with an injured Dragic & Bam. None of the teams Lakers faced were as good as the '98 Jazz, and the '98 Bulls didn't play a single sub-.500 team either. In fact, the Bulls were the one who had to close out the Finals with an injured Pippen, who was terrible and shot 2/16 in Game 5 to give Utah a chance to close out the series on their home court with the old 2 - 3 - 2 format, and he only played 25 minutes in Game 6.

It's not even an argument lmao.

[TheGoatest]

Your opinion of an entire decade is based off of 6 games? Seems typical. Did it ever cross your mind that the Jazz low 3-point percentage might be due to the Bulls defense?

In 1997-98 the league shot .346 from 3’s
In 2021-22 the league shot .354 from 3’s

For a league that predicates itself on 3-point shooting, that’s not much better. But believe whatever you want.

1997-98: 12.7 3pta per game
2021-22: 35.2 3pta per game

What a moron. :facepalm

Nobody will ever match LeBron when it comes to winning in different 3pt volume eras.
He won the chip/FMVP in 2011-12, where the league average 3pta was 18.4
He also won the chip/FMVP in 2019-20, where the league average 3pta was 34.1
A difference of a whopping 15.7 3 point attempts, proving he could win in any 3 point volume era. :applause:

[Baller789]

1997-98: 12.7 3pta per game
2021-22: 35.2 3pta per game

What a moron. :facepalm

Nobody will ever match LeBron when it comes to winning in different 3pt volume eras.
He won the chip/FMVP in 2011-12, where the league average 3pta was 18.4
He also won the chip/FMVP in 2019-20, where the league average 3pta was 34.1
A difference of a whopping 15.7 3 point attempts, proving he could win in any 3 point volume era. :applause:

So if in a decade the league shoots 45 3pta per game, does that mean Lebron is primitive and a backwards player?

[RogueBorg]

1997-98: 12.7 3pta per game
2021-22: 35.2 3pta per game

What a moron. :facepalm

Nobody will ever match LeBron when it comes to winning in different 3pt volume eras.
He won the chip/FMVP in 2011-12, where the league average 3pta was 18.4
He also won the chip/FMVP in 2019-20, where the league average 3pta was 34.1
A difference of a whopping 15.7 3 point attempts, proving he could win in any 3 point volume era. :applause:

Lebronstans are the only fans that think a 4-6 Finals record is a winner. He’s a loser. He lost in the Olympics and he lost a lot in the Finals. Why hasn’t Lebron won a league MVP or made an All-Defensive team playing in his 30’s?

[RogueBorg]

1997-98: 12.7 3pta per game
2021-22: 35.2 3pta per game

What a moron. :facepalm

Nobody will ever match LeBron when it comes to winning in different 3pt volume eras.
He won the chip/FMVP in 2011-12, where the league average 3pta was 18.4
He also won the chip/FMVP in 2019-20, where the league average 3pta was 34.1
A difference of a whopping 15.7 3 point attempts, proving he could win in any 3 point volume era. :applause:

In 1997-98 the league as a whole took 30,218 three-point attempts (1042 att/team x 29) which is more than enough of a sample size. The fact remains that in 2022 having taken so many more 3-point attempts (86,550) and only being .08 better is not a good look for 2022.

[TheGoatest]

This alt really wants to convince someone that it's just as hard hitting an open/more selective 3 pointer as it is hitting a more contested one. :roll:

[RogueBorg]

This alt really wants to convince someone that it's just as hard hitting an open/more selective 3 pointer as it is hitting a more contested one. :roll:

I can see you’re struggling with this, first you looked like an idiot with your sample size response, now you’re going to try and tell us you know which shots were open and which were contested. For an era that takes so many more 3-pointers they’re not that much better at it than 1998. But dont let the facts get in the way of a good argument.

[HylianNightmare]

11>6>4

[TAZORAC]

Byron Russell at 6-21 led the Jazz in 3’s for the 1998 Finals.

John Stockton was 2-9 from 3 for the entire 1998 Finals.

Combined. Jeff Hornacek was 3-9 from 3 for the entire 1998 Finals.

Howard Eisley went 1-7 for the whole Finals.

Chris Morris went 0-9.

The entire team was 13-60 combined. FOR THE ENTIRE SERIES!!

They shot 21.7% from 3 :roll::lol. Steve Kerr shot better from 3 than anyone on the Jazz in the 1998 Finals, and he came off the bench. That 90’s shit was trash.

90s teams for NOTORIOUS for only being 5-6 deep. Most of the players, nobody even knew who they were.

I started a topic a couple years ago about how 90s teams weren't deep enough to compete today. No way in hell does that 96 Bulls team win even close to 72 games with their limited scoring.

[97 bulls]

Malone basically had zero offensive support in the finals that year.

And It wasn't like the Bulls were the prime Bulls. Chicago had 3 guys over 35 in their top-7 and Pippen had missed half that season with an injury and wasn't close to his peak).


Playing against the strong but aging defensive group of MJ/Scottie/Rodman (36 years old) surrounded by not so great players (Longley, Kukoc, Kerr) and a washed 35yo Harper.

Utah supporting cast besides Malone managed the following numbers in the finals.

Stockton: 9-2-8 on 49% shooting, only hit 2 threes all series

Hornacek: 11-3-3 on 41% shooting, only hit 3 threes all series

Russell (added to the starting lineup to guard Jordan): 9-5-0 on 41% shooting

Malone: 25-10-5 on 50% shooting

Keefe: 3-3-0 on 43% shooting

Foster: 1-2-0 on 27% shooting

That is a testament to how truly great the Bulls were on defense.

[Axe]

90s teams for NOTORIOUS for only being 5-6 deep. Most of the players, nobody even knew who they were.

I started a topic a couple years ago about how 90s teams weren't deep enough to compete today. No way in hell does that 96 Bulls team win even close to 72 games with their limited scoring.
Because defenses today pale in comparison to bt.

[jlip]

Malone basically had zero offensive support in the finals that year.

And It wasn't like the Bulls were the prime Bulls. Chicago had 3 guys over 35 in their top-7 and Pippen had missed half that season with an injury and wasn't close to his peak).


Playing against the strong but aging defensive group of MJ/Scottie/Rodman (36 years old) surrounded by not so great players (Longley, Kukoc, Kerr) and a washed 35yo Harper.



Honestly the Jazz's top three players (Malone, Stockton, and Hornacek) were just as old as the Bulls' top 3 players (MJ, Pippen, Rodman). MJ, Hornacek, and Malone were all born within five months of each other, and Stockton was older than all of them. Rodman was nearly a year older than Stockton, while Pippen was the youngest.

[red1]

Lebronstans are the only fans that think a 4-6 Finals record is a winner. He’s a loser. He lost in the Olympics and he lost a lot in the Finals. Why hasn’t Lebron won a league MVP or made an All-Defensive team playing in his 30’s?
4 championships. what a loser.


yeah there's something called context. lebron only ever lost to all-time dynasties (the spurs and warriors) or a team that also swept the defending champions (11 mavs)


also the only player in NBA history with a finals MVPs over a 70-win team, or a finals MVP over the dynasty spurs - it goes both ways :oldlol::pimp:

[Baller789]

4 championships. what a loser.


yeah there's something called context. lebron only ever lost to all-time dynasties (the spurs and warriors) or a team that also swept the defending champions (11 mavs)


also the only player in NBA history with a finals MVPs over a 70-win team, or a finals MVP over the dynasty spurs - it goes both ways :oldlol::pimp:

So the Mavs and old Spurs were unbeatable juggernauts?

:roll:

You don't need to switch alts, we know who you are stinky.

[RogueBorg]

4 championships. what a loser.


yeah there's something called context. lebron only ever lost to all-time dynasties (the spurs and warriors) or a team that also swept the defending champions (11 mavs)


also the only player in NBA history with a finals MVPs over a 70-win team, or a finals MVP over the dynasty spurs - it goes both ways :oldlol::pimp:

2014 Spurs were not a dynasty.