NBA to begin awarding MVP’s for the conference finals

[SouBeachTalents]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/33902416/nba-unveils-new-trophies-awards-honoring-larry-bird-magic-johnson-bob-cousy-oscar-robertson

They should’ve just made a playoff MVP instead. I assume had the award existed previously, LeBron would obv have 9 from the East, and either Magic or Kobe would have the most from the West.

[ArbitraryWater]

this is so retarded


no player wants to be paraded with an individual trophy for a conference final lmao, there is still business to be taken care of

[ImKobe]

Bran stans fuming that they didn't have this 10 years ago.

[coastalmarker99]

Bran stans fuming that they didn't have this 10 years ago.

Kobe stans are utterly fuming that they didn't have this 20 years ago.


As they could brag about Kobe's CF Mvp's being more impressive than Shaq's finals MVPs

[1987_Lakers]

Eh, I don't like the idea.

[1987_Lakers]

Kobe stans are utterly fuming that they didn't have this 20 years ago.


As they could brag about Kobe's CF Mvp's being more impressive then Shaq's finals MVP's

:roll:

[coastalmarker99]

Western Conference Playoff MVP (2000 - 2021)

2000 - Shaquille O'Neal

2001 - Kobe Bryant

2002 - Shaquille O'Neal

2003 - Tim Duncan

2004 - Shaquille O'Neal

2005 - Tim Duncan

2006 - Dirk Nowitzki

2007 - Tim Duncan

2008 - Kobe Bryant

2009 - Kobe Bryant

2010 - Kobe Bryant

2011 - Dirk Nowitzki

2012 - Kevin Durant

2013 - Tony Parker

2014 - Tim Duncan

2015 - Stephen Curry

2016 - Stephen Curry

2017 - Kevin Durant

2018 - Kevin Durant

2019 - Stephen Curry

2020- Lebron

2021-Booker

[ImKobe]

Kobe stans are utterly fuming that they didn't have this 20 years ago.


As they could brag about Kobe's CF Mvp's being more impressive than Shaq's finals MVPs

Let's be real, it would have been a bigger award to win the WCF MVP than the Finals MVP in those seasons, it's not even an argument. Same with Steph in the WCF in the years they annihilated the Cavs in the Finals.

[1987_Lakers]

Let's be real, it would have been a bigger award to win the WCF MVP than the Finals MVP in those seasons, it's not even an argument. Same with Steph in the WCF in the years they annihilated the Cavs in the Finals.

The sad thing is, Shaq would still have had more WCF MVPs than Kobe during that 3 peat span.

[Phoenix]

Kobe stans are utterly fuming that they didn't have this 20 years ago.


As they could brag about Kobe's CF Mvp's being more impressive than Shaq's finals MVPs

Kenneth reaching for a bottle of jerkins and box of kleenex just reading that.

Pretty dumb idea in general, but we live in an 'everyone gets a trophy' society nowadays.

[coastalmarker99]

Let's be real, it would have been a bigger award to win the WCF MVP than the Finals MVP in those seasons, it's not even an argument. Same with Steph in the WCF in the years they annihilated the Cavs in the Finals.



That's true for 2002 but not for 2001 and 2000.


As did you know that In the 2001 NBA Finals, the 76ers were within one possession of the Lakers (89-86) with 2:15 left in the 4th quarter of Game 2, with a chance to take a 2-0 series lead

While most people remember that the Sixers won Game 1, very few people remember how close they were to stealing Game 2 from the Lakers as well.

Despite playing from behind all game and trailing by 10 points entering the 4th quarter, the Sixers found themselves in a one-possession game (89-86) with 2:15 to go in regulation.

Shaq was playing with five fouls and the pressure was squarely on the shoulders of the Lakers, who looked a bit rattled for the first time all playoffs.

It’s also worth pointing out that Iverson, Raja Bell, and Aaron Mckie shot an uncharacteristically bad 2-12 from the foul line combined in the 4th quarter (they’re all career 78-80% free throw shooters), which could be argued was the only thing preventing the Sixers from taking the lead down the stretch.

Derek Fisher went on to hit an enormous 3-pointer with about 2:10 remaining to give the Lakers back some breathing room, and the Sixers never closed the gap any closer than 5 points before the final horn.

It’s interesting to consider that one of the undisputed worst teams in Finals history was a handful of missed free throws away from being in the driver’s seat to taking a 2-0 series lead on the road against a team widely regarded as one of the greatest in NBA history.

Plus The Sixers also nearly won Game 3 as they only trailed by 1 with 50 seconds left and then Horry hit one of his typical daggers.

[coastalmarker99]

The sad thing is, Shaq would still have had more WCF MVPs than Kobe during that 3 peat span.

Shaq was clearcut the best player in those WCFs outside of 2001.


And you just know with Shaq's ego that he wouldn't have let Kobe win a damn thing if he knew there was an award to get like the Finals MVP.

[Phoenix]

https://c.tenor.com/7yDhjDPafgMAAAAC/epic-roll-maneuver-geordi-la-forge.gif

Just made it in before this thread descends into a Shaq vs Kobe thread.

[coastalmarker99]

I like the idea and it would be nice if they give the award to the actual best player in the series.

Not just someone on the winning team as they do with the Finals MVP.

[tpols]

Kobe stans are utterly fuming that they didn't have this 20 years ago.


As they could brag about Kobe's CF Mvp's being more impressive than Shaq's finals MVPs

The Spurs and Kings were easily better than the Sixers and nets lol. It just is what it is.

[ImKobe]

That's true for 2002 but not for 2001 and 2000.


As did you know that In the 2001 NBA Finals, the 76ers were within one possession of the Lakers (89-86) with 2:15 left in the 4th quarter of Game 2, with a chance to take a 2-0 series lead

While most people remember that the Sixers won Game 1, very few people remember how close they were to stealing Game 2 from the Lakers as well.

Despite playing from behind all game and trailing by 10 points entering the 4th quarter, the Sixers found themselves in a one-possession game (89-86) with 2:15 to go in regulation.

Shaq was playing with five fouls and the pressure was squarely on the shoulders of the Lakers, who looked a bit rattled for the first time all playoffs.

It’s also worth pointing out that Iverson, Raja Bell, and Aaron Mckie shot an uncharacteristically bad 2-12 from the foul line combined in the 4th quarter (they’re all career 78-80% free throw shooters), which could be argued was the only thing preventing the Sixers from taking the lead down the stretch.

Derek Fisher went on to hit an enormous 3-pointer with about 2:10 remaining to give the Lakers back some breathing room, and the Sixers never closed the gap any closer than 5 points before the final horn.

It’s interesting to consider that one of the undisputed worst teams in Finals history was a handful of missed free throws away from being in the driver’s seat to taking a 2-0 series lead on the road against a team widely regarded as one of the greatest in NBA history.

Plus The Sixers also nearly won Game 3 as they only trailed by 1 with 50 seconds left and then Horry hit one of his typical daggers.

That's true for 2001.

Spurs were a better team than the Sixers and had HCA, that's a tougher series than people give it credit for. Sweeping them was an achievement, and it was only possible because Kobe put up peak Jordan numbers while Shaq was pedestrian by his standards as he had to play a front court that could limit his production.

The Blazers were a better team than the Pacers with the talent & experience that they had, and their ability to limit Shaq. I'll take Pippen with Sheed & Sabonis over Reggie and Jalen Rose. Blazers were top 5 on both offense & defense and had the better record, while the Pacers had the #1 ORTG but were also mediocre on defense. It only went to 6 games because of KB's injury. Blazers held Shaq to just 35 pts total on 46% shooting in the last two games.

So you could argue that KB was the MVP of the 2000 WCF, as he was the best player in Game 7 by a wide margin, and also had a game-saving block on Sabonis @ Portland in Game 3 (and was also the best player in that game too), that shot could have got Portland into OT @ home with a chance to go up 2 - 1 in the series. KB was the best player in at least 3 of the 7 games, Game 4 is arguable as KB was amazing defensively, so they were about even overall with KB coming through in the biggest moments.

[1987_Lakers]

The Spurs and Kings were easily better than the Sixers and nets lol. It just is what it is.

Spurs were missing their #2 scorer vs the Lakers

[999Guy]

It’ll grow on people. As legit of an accolade as any imo

[ArbitraryWater]

the Spurs were "easily better" than the Sixers?

Hahaha

[ImKobe]

Spurs were missing their #2 scorer vs the Lakers

Another false narrative. Derek Anderson was #2 by a slight margin in the RS, but it was clear that he wasn't a #2 option in the Playoffs with D-Rob taking over that role, and he was a #3 in the Playoffs before his injury and didn't play well in the first round prior to it. And he did return in the WCF and was trash anyway.

[1987_Lakers]

Another false narrative. Derek Anderson was #2 by a slight margin in the RS, but it was clear that he wasn't a #2 option in the Playoffs with D-Rob taking over that role, and he was a #3 in the Playoffs before his injury and didn't play well in the first round prior to it. And he did return in the WCF and was trash anyway.

He was their 2nd leading scorer that year, not a false narrative no matter how you try to spin it. Also returned to the WCF injured.

[ArbitraryWater]

Another false narrative. Derek Anderson was #2 by a slight margin in the RS, but it was clear that he wasn't a #2 option in the Playoffs with D-Rob taking over that role, and he was a #3 in the Playoffs before his injury and didn't play well in the first round prior to it. And he did return in the WCF and was trash anyway.

he was nowhere near himself why are you even trying to spin this?

[ImKobe]

he was nowhere near himself why are you even trying to spin this?

He was bad before his injury. D-Rob was obviously going to be a #2 in the POs regardless, you can see it before the injury even happens. Antonio Daniels played well in the WCF. Duncan had a 40 pt 15 reb 4 blk game and Daniels chipped in 24 pts 5 ast, and D-Rob held Shaq to 19 pts on 8/21 shooting and they still lost at home with Kobe and Fisher hitting dagger 3s late in the 4th.

[1987_Lakers]

Daniels chipped in 24 pts 5 ast, .

Also shot 5/15.

:roll:

[ImKobe]

24 pts on 15 shots is a bad game now. Bran stans are grasping at straws at this point.

Anyways, let's get back on topic.

Will anyone really care about this MVP award? Why not just make it Eastern/Western Conference MVP and give it to the team's best player through 3 rounds? Makes more sense than just the Conference Finals IMO.

[Akeem34TheDream]

Such a stupid idea

[1987_Lakers]

Will anyone really care about this MVP award?

Of course not, just like nobody cares Kobe outperformed Shaq in the '01 WCF. Shaq was the best player at the biggest stage in the Finals.

[tpols]

the Spurs were "easily better" than the Sixers?

Hahaha

Yes the Sixers were a one off one man band team. They literally never did anything in the playoffs outside one fluke run while the spurs were multiple time champions and contenders being led by twin towers and peak Top 5-10 all time GOAT player in Tim Duncan.

Everybody knows the Finals were a joke and the West was where the real challenge was. Lakers went 12-3 against the East during the 3peat, while Kings and Blazers took them to 7 and frankly should have won. The Spurs had to deal with Kobe playing better than peak shaq for that series so despite the series being expected to be close they ran through them.

[Anfernee]

I get wanting to honor Magic and Bird together for their 80's dominance. But at least Magic was a leader on 9 Western conference championship teams. Bird has 5 Eastern Conference championship wins. Jordan's 6 and LeBron's 9 are more impressive.

[PAOK]

just give a participation trophy to everyone and get over with it.. smh

[Ne 1]

The sad thing is, Shaq would still have had more WCF MVPs than Kobe during that 3 peat span.

There’s nothing really sad about it given how dominant prime Shaq was and it’s not even a knock on Kobe considering he was probably the second best player in the playoffs during the '01 and '02 championship runs. It was the greatest 1-2 punch in history. Shaq would've won in 2000, Kobe in 2001 and 2002 is a toss up. The stats would be in Shaq’s favor but after watching that series from
Start to finish, it was way closer than the stats say because Kobe was just as important as Shaq in the wins, but Shaq played better than him in the losses.

[8Ball]

More LeBron robbery.

They better retroactively award this award.

Bron owns close to 10 of these.

[8Ball]

Kobe stans are utterly fuming that they didn't have this 20 years ago.


As they could brag about Kobe's CF Mvp's being more impressive than Shaq's finals MVPs

Would he even win the award 1 time?

[TheGoatest]

Further proof that NBA is conspiring against LeBron (in addition to his free throw attempts). He would've had 10 of these.

I can't believe they don't add the "offensive player of the year" award.
All the controversial MVP winners over the last 20 years would've fit this award like a glove:

2022 Jokic
2017 Westbrook
2011 Rose
2005 Nash
2004 Nash

[Shogon]

Further proof that NBA is conspiring against LeBron (in addition to his free throw attempts). He would've had 10 of these.

I can't believe they don't add the "offensive player of the year" award.
All the controversial MVP winners over the last 20 years would've fit this award like a glove:

2022 Jokic
2017 Westbrook
2011 Rose
2005 Nash
2004 Nash

https://i.postimg.cc/dVk894s7/RVfMWJ2.jpg

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Why not just eliminate FMVP and cook up a Playoff MVP?

Giving out an award for one round....that isn't the finals....seems unnecessary. Not as bad as player of the week, but in the grand scheme not all that relevant.

[John8204]

Why not just eliminate FMVP and cook up a Playoff MVP?

Giving out an award for one round....that isn't the finals....seems unnecessary. Not as bad as player of the week, but in the grand scheme not all that relevant.

It should be a basic 7 awards..

FMVP(Finals)
PMVP (Playoffs)
MVP (Regular)
DPOY (Defensive)
ROTY (Rookie)
Sixth Man (Bench)
AMVP (All-Star)

And yes they should retro-actively give out playoff MVP's for the last 75 years because a number of players who never won FMVP's or MVP's should have gotten awards for what they did in the playoffs.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

It should be a basic 7 awards..

FMVP(Finals)
PMVP (Playoffs)
MVP (Regular)
DPOY (Defensive)
ROTY (Rookie)
Sixth Man (Bench)
AMVP (All-Star)

And yes they should retro-actively give out playoff MVP's for the last 75 years because a number of players who never won FMVP's or MVP's should have gotten awards for what they did in the playoffs.

Wouldn't be against any of that.

As long as the 'Postseason MVP' is more than a first round of play.

[HoopsNY]

Western Conference Playoff MVP (2000 - 2021)

2000 - Shaquille O'Neal

2001 - Kobe Bryant

2002 - Shaquille O'Neal

2003 - Tim Duncan

2004 - Shaquille O'Neal

2005 - Tim Duncan

2006 - Dirk Nowitzki

2007 - Tim Duncan

2008 - Kobe Bryant

2009 - Kobe Bryant

2010 - Kobe Bryant

2011 - Dirk Nowitzki

2012 - Kevin Durant

2013 - Tony Parker

2014 - Tim Duncan

2015 - Stephen Curry

2016 - Stephen Curry

2017 - Kevin Durant

2018 - Kevin Durant

2019 - Stephen Curry

2020- Lebron

2021-Booker

Not that I disagree with the overall premise, but I'd actually give the WCF award to Kobe in 2000 over Shaq.

[SATAN]

MVP awards are virtually meaningless at this point. I remember at the start of the season (or maybe season before), only a small handfull of games had been played and the ****ing retards at ESPN etc were already pumping up who would win MVP. It's so stupid now. Just more dumb shit to gamble on.

[GimmeThat]

they're also listing out nba 4th team, 5th team, down to about 30 if not more.

odd they are dumping their mountain dew sponsorship like that tho

[GimmeThat]

They should’ve just made a playoff MVP instead.

what's playoff MVP, should they also go ahead and get rid of seeding. fakkit.