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Westbrook_Fan
05-12-2022, 08:40 PM
That’s literally the worst production from anyone playing more than 30+ mins in the Finals ever

TheGoatest
05-12-2022, 09:21 PM
Fun facts about jordon's one-dimensional 1998 Finals MVP:

-Steve Kerr, whose career high apg average is 3.2 averaged more assists per game than jordon, despite playing literally half the minutes jordon played.
-Ron Harper, who was the same height and lower weight than jordon averaged more rebounds than jordon while playing 13 minutes less per game.

jordon was a role player, whose only role was scoring. Well, to be more precise, his role was shot taking. The greatest rebounder of all time Dennis Rodman was there to clean up his bricks better than any player in history could.

Johnny32
05-12-2022, 09:56 PM
that's who 98 jordone was...a mid 40s percent chucker, with very low playmaking. he averaged 3.5 apg for the reg season and playoffs. he shot 46% for the season and he only shot above 46% one series in the playoffs vs the sherman douglas led nets.

warriorfan
05-12-2022, 10:28 PM
Absolutely fuming

Westbrook_Fan
05-12-2022, 10:43 PM
Fun facts about jordon's one-dimensional 1998 Finals MVP:

-Steve Kerr, whose career high apg average is 3.2 averaged more assists per game than jordon, despite playing literally half the minutes jordon played.
-Ron Harper, who was the same height and lower weight than jordon averaged more rebounds than jordon while playing 13 minutes less per game.

jordon was a role player, whose only role was scoring. Well, to be more precise, his role was shot taking. The greatest rebounder of all time Dennis Rodman was there to clean up his bricks better than any player in history could.

:eek:

coastalmarker99
05-12-2022, 10:44 PM
Watch the last five minutes of game 6 and there's your answer.




As Jordan's steal on Malone and game-winner afterwards is the most iconic moment in NBA history.

Spurs m8
05-12-2022, 10:48 PM
Absolutely fuming

Every.single.day

97 bulls
05-12-2022, 10:49 PM
If Scottie Pippen hadn't hurt his back, he would've been Finals MVP.

Axe
05-12-2022, 10:49 PM
If Scottie Pippen hadn't hurt his back, he would've been Finals MVP.
This.

Shooter
05-12-2022, 11:27 PM
If Scottie Pippen hadn't hurt his back, he would've been Finals MVP.

This

ImKobe
05-12-2022, 11:28 PM
If Scottie Pippen hadn't hurt his back, he would've been Finals MVP.

https://c.tenor.com/E6aL4cqEdmwAAAAM/michael-jordan-lol.gif

2much_knowledge
05-12-2022, 11:30 PM
That’s literally the worst production from anyone playing more than 30+ mins in the Finals ever

How can a player 19 years into retirement, can live in your mind 24/7?

Axe
05-12-2022, 11:33 PM
How can a player 19 years into retirement, can live in your mind 24/7?
Because many of his stans are delusional.

Baller789
05-13-2022, 01:58 AM
If Scottie Pippen hadn't hurt his back, he would've been Finals MVP.

If Ray Allen missed that shot, Lebron would be 3/10. Hypotheticals are plain stupid.

Bawkish
05-13-2022, 02:14 AM
Fun facts about jordon's one-dimensional 1998 Finals MVP:

-Steve Kerr, whose career high apg average is 3.2 averaged more assists per game than jordon, despite playing literally half the minutes jordon played.
-Ron Harper, who was the same height and lower weight than jordon averaged more rebounds than jordon while playing 13 minutes less per game.

jordon was a role player, whose only role was scoring. Well, to be more precise, his role was shot taking. The greatest rebounder of all time Dennis Rodman was there to clean up his bricks better than any player in history could.

still waiting for that Pippen who anchored Bull's defense and elevated MJ in 1988

Bawkish
05-13-2022, 02:17 AM
If Scottie Pippen hadn't hurt his back, he would've been Finals MVP.

If Pip didn't have a migraine, they could've won it all in 1990

Kawhi_Why_Not
05-13-2022, 02:54 AM
33PPG on 43% FG and the game win clincher is still better then any Duncan finals outside of maybe 2003 but that's debatable

Pippen had a bad back

I'm taking 98 Jordan > any Duncan finals

Even though that was probably jordan's 4th best finals

TheGoatest
05-13-2022, 03:42 AM
33PPG on 43% FG and the game win clincher is still better then any Duncan finals outside of maybe 2003 but that's debatable

Pippen had a bad back

I'm taking 98 Jordan > any Duncan finals

Even though that was probably jordan's 4th best finals

LMAO

A just turned 23 year-old Duncan (remember where jordon was at this age :oldlol:) had a better finals than jordon's one-dimensional brickage of 1998 THE VERY NEXT YEAR.
Duncan's 27.4 ppg on .537, 14.0 rpg and 2.2 bpg in 1999 manslaughter jordon's 1998.

GimmeThat
05-13-2022, 03:57 AM
players from that era is scratching their head over how to grab an offensive rebound in todays league, as it seems to be so open with just one defender. what they failed to notice is that where as before it took more players to secure the defensive rebounding, no attention was paid as to where the players were facing when the shot was attempted.

the rebounding efficiency has actually improved if you believe that how far away from the basket each players were when they secured the ball.

todays league has a lot to do with always making sure you are closer to the basket on defense so you don't make any mental lapses.

Spurs m8
05-13-2022, 04:00 AM
If my grandma had wheels, she'd be a bike

GimmeThat
05-13-2022, 04:15 AM
If my grandma had wheels, she'd be a bike

but it doesn't make a man girly for riding a bike meant for girls, just that he might have a bad back.

Shooter
05-13-2022, 06:16 AM
If Ray Allen missed that shot, Lebron would be 3/10. Hypotheticals are plain stupid.

0mg only 3!? Tied for 2nd most all time FMVP!? OH NO

:lol fu**ing idiot :roll:

8Ball
05-13-2022, 07:22 AM
33/4/2 on 42% = win

Bran goes 33/12/9 or whatever in 2017 and loses.

Finals competition in the 90s were a joke.

ImKobe
05-13-2022, 10:04 AM
33/4/2 on 42% = win

Bran goes 33/12/9 or whatever in 2017 and loses.

Finals competition in the 90s were a joke.

Meaningless stats in historic blowout losses. Jordan averaged 36/7/7/3 50.5%FG in '85-'90 Playoffs and it got him 0 rings. You need to play team basketball in order to win, which means sacrificing your numbers.

SouBeachTalents
05-13-2022, 10:08 AM
Meaningless stats in historic blowout losses. Jordan averaged 36/7/7/3 50.5%FG in '85-'90 Playoffs and it got him 0 rings. You need to play team basketball in order to win, which means sacrificing your numbers.
Or maybe, he was just losing to the better team every season.

ImKobe
05-13-2022, 10:23 AM
Or maybe, he was just losing to the better team every season.

Talent doesn't always win you championships. You need chemistry and for your star player to be willing to sacrifice their numbers to elevate their teammates, which is what Jordan did in the 90s.

ShawkFactory
05-13-2022, 10:33 AM
If my grandma had wheels, she'd be a bike

Out of all of the things that have wheels you choose bike?

2much_knowledge
05-13-2022, 01:48 PM
Meaningless stats in historic blowout losses. Jordan averaged 36/7/7/3 50.5%FG in '85-'90 Playoffs and it got him 0 rings. You need to play team basketball in order to win, which means sacrificing your numbers.

How many decades will it take foe these people to grasp that the triangle ofense is not designed for big assist numbers. And why would jordan fight to take rebounds away from rodman? Stupid af

ImKobe
05-13-2022, 02:51 PM
How many decades will it take foe these people to grasp that the triangle ofense is not designed for big assist numbers. And why would jordan fight to take rebounds away from rodman? Stupid af

And he was 35 years old and had played all 82 games at ~39 mpg that season and had to do more with Pippen missing half of it and also getting injured in the Finals. And it's easier to put up numbers in today's era as teams play smaller & at a higher pace, which shouldn't be ignored either.

Jordan in '98 averaged 44.5 points per 100 possessions in the Playoffs. That would be 2nd highest for Bran's entire Playoff career and 2 points per 100 higher than Bran's '18 Playoff run. MJ also led the POs in WS/BPM/VORP/RAPM and had a much higher DRAPM than Pippen.

3ba11
05-13-2022, 07:39 PM
by defeating maximum defensive attention (carrying scoring load) more than anyone ever had prior

everyone in history needed equal-scoring partners to attract equal defensive attention for entire playoff runs, so they weren't always facing maximum defensive attention.. Any period without facing maximum defensive attention is inflated stats compared to Jordan, who carried the scoring load in every SERIES, let alone playoff run.

3ba11
05-13-2022, 07:40 PM
And he was 35 years old and had played all 82 games at ~39 mpg that season and had to do more with Pippen missing half of it and also getting injured in the Finals. And it's easier to put up numbers in today's era as teams play smaller & at a higher pace, which shouldn't be ignored either.

Jordan in '98 averaged 44.5 points per 100 possessions in the Playoffs. That would be 2nd highest for Bran's entire Playoff career and 2 points per 100 higher than Bran's '18 Playoff run. MJ also led the POs in WS/BPM/VORP/RAPM and had a much higher DRAPM than Pippen.


Informative

Baller789
05-13-2022, 09:41 PM
0mg only 3!? Tied for 2nd most all time FMVP!? OH NO

:lol fu**ing idiot :roll:

If your father didn't ejaculate inside your mommy's vajayjay, there would be less retards on earth. :confusedshrug:

Baller789
05-13-2022, 09:43 PM
How many decades will it take foe these people to grasp that the triangle ofense is not designed for big assist numbers. And why would jordan fight to take rebounds away from rodman? Stupid af

Because Lebrontards tiny brain:

Stats>>>> winning