Did Harden save his legacy by losing sooner instead of Finals loss?

[Shooter]

Did KD?
Jokic?
Derozan?

😁

[Spurs m8]

MELT.DOWN

KEEP EM COMING

:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

[ArbitraryWater]

Haha, good point.

[8Ball]

Did KD?
Jokic?
Derozan?

��

To the retards, yes, he saved his legacy by not advancing to the finals.


To high IQ individuals, his legacy would have been enhanced further if he made it to the finals regardless of result.

[TheGoatest]

Did KD?
Jokic?
Derozan?

��

jordon extremist alts getting absolutely DESTROYED. :oldlol:
Their "logic" is the only one of its kind in all of sports. In what other universe is an olympian's resumé which consists 6 gold medals and 0 silver medals regarded higher than 4 gold medals and 6 silver medals? :roll:

[Full Court]

UTTER. DESPERATION.

No, OP, sucking in the post season did not improve Harden's legacy.

Just like not even making the postseason with a super team did not improve your hero Bronie's post season.

I know these complex thoughts might blow your mind....

[TheGoatest]

The variety of alts that are FUMING every time the ridiculousness of this "logic" is exposed keeps on expanding. :oldlol:
Will Tatum add to his legacy tonight by making sure he doesn't lose in the finals? Stay tuned. All he has to do is somehow lose the game. Can he accomplish such a feat? :roll:

[SATAN]

Mikey was a hamstring injury away from barely scraping into the top 25 all time. It wasn't long ago that sports media were questioning if James Harden is as good as Michael Jordan on the offensive end and quite frankly they made some compelling arguments.

[Bronbron23]

Did KD?
Jokic?
Derozan?

😁

Man ya'll Bron stains melting down something terrible lately. Got these pathetic losers comparing Bron to Butler and derozan:oldlol:

[8Ball]

The variety of alts that are FUMING every time the ridiculousness of this "logic" is exposed keeps on expanding. :oldlol:
Will Tatum add to his legacy tonight by making sure he doesn't lose in the finals? Stay tuned. All he has to do is somehow lose the game. Can he accomplish such a feat? :roll:

They spent years saying retard shit about losing in the finals being a negative.

Using that retard logic, if someone loses before making the finals, it cannot be a negative either.


If Jordan went to the finals every single year of his career 13 times, lost 7, but won 6, that is a positive no? An even more legendary career.

[Bronbron23]

They spent years saying retard shit about losing in the finals being a negative.

Using that retard logic, if someone loses before making the finals, it cannot be a negative either.


If Jordan went to the finals every single year of his career 13 times, lost 7, but won 6, that is a positive no? An even more legendary career.

Bruh it's not that it's not better to go further because obviously it is it's just that it's not significantly better to go further. The objective is to win it all plain and simple. Anything short of that is a disappointment. That's the way this should be looked at. Nobody who loses in the finals says that was less disappointing than losing in the first round. Both suck dude. This is what I don't get about Bron Stans. In an effort to elevate brons atg ranking they legit try to pretend that losing in the finals is a great thing and it just isn't. A losers a loser. It doesn't really matter if you lose sooner or later you're in still a loser.

This is relative to the best players in the game obviously. In general just making the NBA and losing every game is amazing.

[ImKobe]

No one's arguing Harden vs. Bran.

If you're going to make the argument that Bran had a better Playoff career than MJ because he made more Finals, then we're going to point to his Finals losses and pick that argument apart.

[ArbitraryWater]

UTTER. DESPERATION.

No, OP, sucking in the post season did not improve Harden's legacy.

Just like not even making the postseason with a super team did not improve your hero Bronie's post season.

I know these complex thoughts might blow your mind....

We're not talking about play here at all.

No one does when throwing out LeBron or West's finals record.


Why are you this retarded?

[HylianNightmare]

UTTER. DESPERATION.

No, OP, sucking in the post season did not improve Harden's legacy.

Just like not even making the postseason with a super team did not improve your hero Bronie's post season.

I know these complex thoughts might blow your mind....

Took a page out of lebrons book this season

[RogueBorg]

4 in 19 or 6 in 15…which is greater?

[Hey Yo]

4 in 19 or 6 in 15…which is greater?
19 straight seasons >>>> 15 seasons in a 19yr span (non injury, chose to quit)

[red1]

UTTER. DESPERATION.

No, OP, sucking in the post season did not improve Harden's legacy.

Just like not even making the postseason with a super team did not improve your hero Bronie's post season.

I know these complex thoughts might blow your mind....

you just called the 2022 lakers a superteam :roll:

injured and non-playing AD plus malik monk and austin reaves a superteam :roll:

[ImKobe]

you just called the 2022 lakers a superteam :roll:

injured and non-playing AD plus malik monk and austin reaves a superteam :roll:

5 HOFers

If y'all thought the '04 or '13 Lakers were a superteam, than the '22 team is one as well.

[red1]

5 HOFers

If y'all thought the '04 or '13 Lakers were a superteam, than the '22 team is one as well.
13 lakers were trash. 04 lakers choked but I wouldnt call them a superteam. shaq and kobe is enough to be a superteam so I guess it counts. every team lebron every played on was a superteam, because he's on the team.


how did the malik monk austin reaves westbrook superteam do without leGOAT? if I remember correctly every single win was because of lebron. and all of those close losses the only player hooping was lebron while the rest of the team was letting scrubs like the jalen green rockets shit on them.

[3ba11]

Lebron lost 3 Finals with the preseason favorite, and 3 more times he was the Finals underdog with the preseason favorite.

Only a bad brand of ball causes favored talent to underachieve, so Lebron clearly has the worst brand ever.

Ultimately, every team that didn't win the title wouldn't make the Finals in the other conference - Finals appearances are essentially conference-dependant, so only winning the Finals matters

[red1]

Lebron lost 3 Finals with the preseason favorite, and 3 more times he was the Finals underdog with the preseason favorite.

Only a bad brand of ball causes favored talent to underachieve, so Lebron clearly has the worst brand ever.

Ultimately, every team that didn't win the title wouldn't make the Finals in the other conference - Finals appearances are essentially conference-dependant, so only winning the Finals matters

dude you're not allowed to have an opinion any more. you've been exposed so many times that it's a joke.

all of your arguments are based on false assumptions that elevate or diminish players based on the point that you're trying to make. what happened to all of the paragraphs that you made me read explaining how KG is definitively a better player than lebron?


explain to me again how KG is hands down a better player than lebron.

[red1]

Lebron lost 3 Finals with the preseason favorite, and 3 more times he was the Finals underdog with the preseason favorite.

Only a bad brand of ball causes favored talent to underachieve, so Lebron clearly has the worst brand ever.

Ultimately, every team that didn't win the title wouldn't make the Finals in the other conference - Finals appearances are essentially conference-dependant, so only winning the Finals matters

even this post right here assumes that lebron underachieved because he lost in the finals to a better team. how did he underachieve by losing to the 2014 spurs and 2015 and 2017, 2018 warriors when he was the best player in every single series? :oldlol:


mike never ran into a single team as good as any of those teams. please explain to me again how malone and stockton are equivalent to klay curry dray and kd.


the only thing that a player can do is dominate his era and lebron was hands down the best in the league from 2009-2018 aka a FULL decade.

[red1]

buh buh 2014 lebron had dwade meanwhile wade played the series on one knee :oldlol:

[Kawhi_Why_Not]

Can't save a legacy if you never had one to begin with.

Unless you're talking about regular season legacy

[Full Court]

They spent years saying retard shit about losing in the finals being a negative.

Using that retard logic, if someone loses before making the finals, it cannot be a negative either.


If Jordan went to the finals every single year of his career 13 times, lost 7, but won 6, that is a positive no? An even more legendary career.

:biggums: Jordan winning 6 is better than Jordan winning 4. I can remember when I was about four years old being able to comprehend that 6 > 4. Which puts you Bronies on about a three-year-old's level intellectually.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.quickmeme.com%2Fimg%2Ff8%2Ff80 4f0c0fc9e84810d5412d38ba395ac0b49b4a34a12b60b2d98b f0c21c4c786.jpg&f=1&nofb=1


4 in 19 or 6 in 15…which is greater?

This point should be obvious....but the Bronies struggle with difficult things like math and logic.

[PeroAntic]

Stains don't get it. Its not the fact that Lebron lost in the finals that weakens his legacy. Its the fact that it happened to him so many times, that its literally the main association with him - a guy that gets to the finals and loses. That is a sign that he can't finish the job, that he made it there through easy conference, whatever. Tendency is clear: he always gets close, but doesn't complete the final step. Kobe lost twice in the finals as well but that doesn't hurt his legacy because he won five times. If you lose in the finals but win more it doesn't matter. But Lebron lost more than he won. Losing finals is synonymous with Lebron. And from the phrase 'losing finals' the most striking part is 'LOSING'.

[Shooter]

jordon extremist alts getting absolutely DESTROYED. :oldlol:
Their "logic" is the only one of its kind in all of sports. In what other universe is an olympian's resumé which consists 6 gold medals and 0 silver medals regarded higher than 4 gold medals and 6 silver medals? :roll:

We got their ass shook :lol

[Shooter]

They spent years saying retard shit about losing in the finals being a negative.

Using that retard logic, if someone loses before making the finals, it cannot be a negative either.


If Jordan went to the finals every single year of his career 13 times, lost 7, but won 6, that is a positive no? An even more legendary career.

Mic drop

But only high IQ understand

[Shooter]

4 in 19 or 6 in 15…which is greater?

19 vs 15 is irrelevant. Play more, we don't reward quitters.

If anything it's 4 vs 6.

4 elite FMVPs vs 6 cracker jack 90s rings

We win again.

[Full Court]

You Bronies are worse than morons.

Ask any Olympian if they they'd rather have 1 gold medal or 3 silver. You wouldn't find a single one who'd take the silver.

1 gold > 100 silver.

6 gold > 4 gold.

End of story. Bronie never came close to catching MJ. Truth hurts. :lebroncry:

[Shooter]

Stains don't get it. Its not the fact that Lebron lost in the finals that weakens his legacy. Its the fact that it happened to him so many times, that its literally the main association with him - a guy that gets to the finals and loses. That is a sign that he can't finish the job, that he made it there through easy conference, whatever. Tendency is clear: he always gets close, but doesn't complete the final step. Kobe lost twice in the finals as well but that doesn't hurt his legacy because he won five times. If you lose in the finals but win more it doesn't matter. But Lebron lost more than he won. Losing finals is synonymous with Lebron. And from the phrase 'losing finals' the most striking part is 'LOSING'.

So a 1st round loss would have saved his legacy? :roll: Fu**ing idiot alert :lol

[Shooter]

You Bronies are worse than morons.

Ask any Olympian if they they'd rather have 1 gold medal or 3 silver. You wouldn't find a single one who'd take the silver.

1 gold > 100 silver.

6 gold > 4 gold.

End of story. Bronie never came close to catching MJ. Truth hurts. :lebroncry:

Um. No one said Finals loss is better than Finals win. Full Tard.

But we're saying 2nd place is better than 3rd, which is better than 4th, which is better than 8th, which is better than...

T H I N K

[BigShotBob]

Um. No one said Finals loss is better than Finals win. Full Tard.

But we're saying 2nd place is better than 3rd, which is better than 4th, which is better than 8th, which is better than...

T H I N K

Lebron faced a team lead by Rodney Stuckey in the first round when he had Dwade and Chris Bosh.

[Bronbron23]

1 chip is worth more a million runner ups. That tells you how shit a runner up is worth

[kawhileonard2]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371

[red1]

Stains don't get it. Its not the fact that Lebron lost in the finals that weakens his legacy. Its the fact that it happened to him so many times, that its literally the main association with him - a guy that gets to the finals and loses. That is a sign that he can't finish the job, that he made it there through easy conference, whatever. Tendency is clear: he always gets close, but doesn't complete the final step. Kobe lost twice in the finals as well but that doesn't hurt his legacy because he won five times. If you lose in the finals but win more it doesn't matter. But Lebron lost more than he won. Losing finals is synonymous with Lebron. And from the phrase 'losing finals' the most striking part is 'LOSING'.

you're just another drose stan hater. most bulls fans are haters. and most celtics fans. it makes sense.


how many of you have actually seen lebron play in person? he might be the single most athletic player of all time over monsters like shaq and wilt...

[red1]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371

wow a 37 year old player struggled when his team didn't give him any support. what a surprise.


24 year old lebron would've carried the lakers to the number seed in the west balling out every single night :oldlol:

[Full Court]

So a 1st round loss would have saved his legacy? :roll: Fu**ing idiot alert :lol

You know the Bronies are in full desperation mode when they have to resort to finals losses to try to prop up their hero's tanking legacy. :lol

[8Ball]

Mic drop

But only high IQ understand

Only the retards are triggered by topics like this. Their arguments get spun like a pretzel contradicting themselves.

To us high IQ basketball fans we just get a laugh out of it.

[TheGoatest]

Tatum actively trying to ruin his legacy.
He could've had it all by losing the game tonight and kept his legacy intact, but instead he still has the possibility of losing in the finals.

[8Ball]

Tatum actively trying to ruin his legacy.
He could've had it all by losing the game tonight and kept his legacy intact, but instead he still has the possibility of losing in the finals.

If Tatum lost this game and got bounced, he would have avoided a potential loss in the finals which according to retards would be a negative to his legacy! :oldlol:

[Derka]

Harden’s legacy is his disgusting homeless man’s beard, flopping on every contested 3, and losing in the playoffs.

[kawhileonard2]

Tatum actively trying to ruin his legacy.
He could've had it all by losing the game tonight and kept his legacy intact, but instead he still has the possibility of losing in the finals.

Tatum would have lost with HCA. Lebron lost with HCA 3x, Kobe 2x, MJ never.

[Full Court]

Bronie logic: If you're the runner up a bunch of times, it's better than winning a championship a few times....because that's what the maths tell me.


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[Bronbron23]

Bronie logic: If you're the runner up a bunch of times, it's better than winning a championship a few times....because that's what the maths tell me.


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So true. Imagine having to praise loser awards with a straight face because your favorite player has so many of them:oldlol:

[Shooter]

Only the retards are triggered by topics like this. Their arguments get spun like a pretzel contradicting themselves.

To us high IQ basketball fans we just get a laugh out of it.

It really is comical.

And all you have to do to make them squirm is post a simple fact.

2

Ez

[Bronbron23]

It really is comical.

And all you have to do to make them squirm is post a simple fact.

2

Ez

Holy shit you guys are in denial. What fact exactly? Last time I checked harden is considered a way bigger loser than almost any atg that lost in the finals. You dummies are just making shit up as usual.

Cute bro love fest though:oldlol:

[ImKobe]

Lebron faced a team lead by Rodney Stuckey in the first round when he had Dwade and Chris Bosh.

This is what Bran stans can't defend in the argument.

Cool, Bran made 10 Finals. In how many of them did he face All-NBA/superstar-level players in the first 3 rounds? Just because Heat lost in the Finals in '14 doesn't mean that they were the 2nd best team in the league. Put them out West and they lose to OKC or San Antonio in the Semis/WCF. Going up against 38-43 win teams in the first round and beating teams teams that wouldn't even crack top 3 in the WC in the ECF isn't worth jack shit compared to a championship.

Making 4 Finals appearances & losing all of them in convincing fashion (Sweep in '07, historic blowout losses in '14, '17 & '18) is not as good as winning a championship. No one's picking Karl Malone over Giannis because of the Finals appearances. No one's picking Jerry West over Hakeem or Duncan or Bird.

[WhiteKyrie]

Not getting the playoffs is worse probably

[TheGoatest]

Lebron faced a team lead by Rodney Stuckey in the first round when he had Dwade and Chris Bosh.

What season was that?
LeBron faced Rodney Stuckey in the playoffs once: In 2009, when his #2 guy was Mo Williams, who ironically would be about as known as Rodney Stuckey today had he not played with LeBron, who made him into an all-star.

[Full Court]

Shooter and GoatTits are in a major meltdown - just spamming damage control threads. :roll:

And it's hilarious. :lol

[8Ball]

It really is comical.

And all you have to do to make them squirm is post a simple fact.

2

Ez

The retards bite every time a topic like this gets made. :oldlol:. Hook line sinker.


Retard logic:
Making the finals and losing is bad for your legacy.
Losing in the 2nd round doesn't impact your legacy.


We know they only saying losing in finals is bad because Bron has 10 finals appearances and Jordan only has 6. So they had to find a way to twist it around against Bran.

Making themselves a retard argument in the process.

Successful thread.

[Shooter]

Holy shit you guys are in denial. What fact exactly? Last time I checked harden is considered a way bigger loser than almost any atg that lost in the finals. You dummies are just making shit up as usual.

Cute bro love fest though:oldlol:

I love to see you make a spinoff thread about this topic after getting wrecked in this thread--only to get wrecked in your thread too. Congratulations, now you're gaping wiiide open.

[Shooter]

The retards bite every time a topic like this gets made. :oldlol:. Hook line sinker.


Retard logic:
Making the finals and losing is bad for your legacy.
Losing in the 2nd round doesn't impact your legacy.


We know they only saying losing in finals is bad because Bron has 10 finals appearances and Jordan only has 6. So they had to find a way to twist it around against Bran.

Making themselves a retard argument in the process.

Successful thread.

Precisely. As if going further, winning MORE is a bad thing? And all of MJ's 1st round failures are "forgiven."

The retards bite almost as quickly as they get slapped down by us :lol

[Bronbron23]

I love to see you make a spinoff thread about this topic after getting wrecked in this thread--only to get wrecked in your thread too. Congratulations, now you're gaping wiiide open.

Whatever you say Curtis strange:roll:

[Shooter]

Whatever you say Curtis strange:roll:

Whatever you say Curtis Strange :roll:

[MrFonzworth]

Did OP solidify his virginity by losing his leg to diabetes?

[Shooter]

Did OP solidify his virginity by losing his leg to diabetes?

There's my Alaskan mutt.

[8Ball]

Precisely. As if going further, winning MORE is a bad thing? And all of MJ's 1st round failures are "forgiven."

The retards bite almost as quickly as they get slapped down by us :lol

If Jordan went to the finals 13 times and won even 3 out of a 13, hell just 2, and led his teams in all 13 finals runs, I would have nothing to say, he'd be the GOAT.

High IQ basketball fans know how difficult it is to lead a team to the finals. It isn't easy.

Every single NBA coach knows this, every single of the 500 NBA players know how hard this is. Every single owner knows how hard it is.

But the retard fans don't and they don't need to know. NBA is just an entertainment business anyway.

[PeroAntic]

Being synonymous with losing in finals = reputation as second best, can't close the deal. Which is pretty much the highest possible ranking for Bron on the ATG list:lol

[Bronbron23]

"one day I'm gonna grow up to be the greatest runner up ever" who in the hell ever said that shit? Man these Bron Stans are hilarious:oldlol:

[Shooter]

"one day I'm gonna grow up to be the greatest runner up ever" who in the hell ever said that shit? Man these Bron Stans are hilarious:oldlol:

"one day I'm gonna grow up to be the greatest quitter with three 1st rd sweeps and three retires" who in the hell ever said that shit? Man these MJ Stans are hilarious:oldlol: