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AirBonner
05-13-2022, 11:33 PM
Except it was really MJ cuz Kobe could never do what Tatum just did :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

AirBonner
05-13-2022, 11:55 PM
He has surpassed Kawhi imo

TheGoatest
05-14-2022, 12:01 AM
If he channeled his jordon in this elimination game, he would've lost...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeF6V-oXkAEzFk_.jpg

Curry is currently 4-17 though, so he's definitely having a Kobe homage game.

Kawhi_Why_Not
05-14-2022, 12:49 AM
Jayson GOATUM coming into his thick peak

I was trying to tell people

Duncan or Kobe have never had a playoff game like this against three all defensive guys jrue yannis Lopez

That's still the best defense in the league, Middleton defense brings little

1987_Lakers
05-14-2022, 12:50 AM
Jayson GOATUM coming into his thick peak

I was trying to tell people

Duncan or Kobe have never had a playoff game like this against three all defensive guys jrue yannis Lopez

That's still the best defense in the league, Middleton defense brings little

Dude, you were shitting on Tatum earlier in the playoffs. You weren't trying to tell people anything.

ImKobe
05-14-2022, 12:56 AM
Jayson GOATUM coming into his thick peak

I was trying to tell people

Duncan or Kobe have never had a playoff game like this against three all defensive guys jrue yannis Lopez

That's still the best defense in the league, Middleton defense brings little

Bucks are down a player who could guard Tatum and make him work on the other end of the floor. That's a huge advantage for Boston.

Tatum's a one trick pony, which is perfect against Milwaukee's drop coverage. Finally he had a good shooting game and Bud kept playing Grayson Allen when they kept torching Milwaukee with him on the court.

KB had 42/6/5 on Duncan when the Lakers were in danger of going down 1 - 3 in the '04 Semis, and that's an injured Kobe in one of the toughest defensive seasons in league history, against a Spurs' defense that held teams to 84 pts a game and had a 94 DRTG.

Kawhi_Why_Not
05-14-2022, 01:11 AM
He has surpassed Kawhi imo

Tatum is a rare guy that kawhi had problems with

I would say kawhi is like MJ and tatum is Hakeem in the 90s

Its close but I'm still taking kawhi by a hair as of now

coin24
05-14-2022, 01:11 AM
It’s about time he didn’t shit the bed in the playoffs..

Kawhi_Why_Not
05-14-2022, 01:14 AM
Dude, you were shitting on Tatum earlier in the playoffs. You weren't trying to tell people anything.

I had my frustrations with him but I've been hyping him as the next big thing early in the season, going into playoffs, and I told the poster above you Imkobe how good Tatum is in the bucks game thread and he told me he was not that guy.

I've always had an eye for Tatum he has a little bit of kawhi in him and some NASTY

I just liked kawhi better and Tatum didn't quite hit his prime until like 2 seasons ago and then he had covid for like a year. So this is the start of Tatum's true prime.

Udoka To Tatum is starting to look like the Phil jackson to Jordan and kobe

Kawhi_Why_Not
05-14-2022, 01:15 AM
It’s about time he didn’t shit the bed in the playoffs..

He already has multiple conf finals. The problem is he came into the league at 19.

So you saw Tatum of the 2010s which was like 90s kobe (pre prime).

1987_Lakers
05-14-2022, 01:17 AM
I had my frustrations with him but I've been hyping him as the next big thing early in the season, going into playoffs, and I told the poster above you Imkobe how good Tatum is in the bucks game thread and he told me he was not that guy.

I've always had an eye for Tatum he has a little bit of kawhi in him and some NASTY

I just liked kawhi better and Tatum didn't quite hit his prime until like 2 seasons ago and then he had covid for like a year. So this is the start of Tatum's true prime.

Udoka To Tatum is starting to look like the Phil jackson to Jordan and kobe

Well we all know ImKobe is bitter about Tatum owning Kyrie in the 1st round.

Kawhi_Why_Not
05-14-2022, 04:44 AM
Well we all know ImKobe is bitter about Tatum owning Kyrie in the 1st round.

He's averaging 29/6/6 with elite defense and elite 3 point shooting, better then average playmaking and rebounder.

Hes a GOAT level type player. I would say his pippen is actually smart and brown is more of a kukoc but it can go either way. Tatum is the ALPHA that is responsible for back 2 back eliminations of Giannis and Durant

His projectory is HIGH.

More playoff points then LeBron at his 23 year old season as well

Kawhi_Why_Not
05-14-2022, 04:49 AM
Bucks are down a player who could guard Tatum and make him work on the other end of the floor. That's a huge advantage for Boston.

Tatum's a one trick pony, which is perfect against Milwaukee's drop coverage. Finally he had a good shooting game and Bud kept playing Grayson Allen when they kept torching Milwaukee with him on the court.

KB had 42/6/5 on Duncan when the Lakers were in danger of going down 1 - 3 in the '04 Semis, and that's an injured Kobe in one of the toughest defensive seasons in league history, against a Spurs' defense that held teams to 84 pts a game and had a 94 DRTG.

He's putting up 29/6/6 these playoffs and on a very good 57% TS with elite defense and very good playmaking.elite 3 point shooting as well. You can't ask for much more then that.

Giannis is much better then Duncan so I would pick Tatums performance over that 04 one. Not to mention Tatum doesn't have a co star like shaq.

Tatum is the 29/6/6 with elite 3 and D skills that is the alpha on the team 1 win away from eliminations of 3 MVPS Giannis and Durant. Time to start giving goatson Tatum some respect if he clinches this series

Kawhi_Why_Not
05-14-2022, 05:04 AM
Last 3 games he's averaging 37 PPG

WHORING Giannis

Come on Imkobe you should like the 2020 kobe

ImKobe
05-14-2022, 06:04 AM
Last 3 games he's averaging 37 PPG

WHORING Giannis

Come on Imkobe you should like the 2020 kobe

Whoring? He's averaging 28/6/5 on 53.6%TS in the Bucks series. That's after his 46-pt performance. So he hasn't been that good for the majority of the series. His strength is his 3PT shooting and they're giving him open looks in drop coverage. Kobe wasn't a 3PT chucker like JT, he was a superior athlete with a better all-around offensive game.

Kawhi_Why_Not
05-14-2022, 06:12 AM
Whoring? He's averaging 28/6/5 on 53.6%TS in the Bucks series. That's after his 46-pt performance. So he hasn't been that good for the majority of the series. His strength is his 3PT shooting and they're giving him open looks in drop coverage. Kobe wasn't a 3PT chucker like JT, he was a superior athlete with a better all-around offensive game.

Has Kobe ever averaged 37 PPG for 3 straight playoff games against the MVP-DPOTY Giannis bucks level team?

ImKobe
05-14-2022, 06:17 AM
Has Kobe ever averaged 37 PPG for 3 straight playoff games against the MVP-DPOTY Giannis bucks level team?

He averaged 39/10/4 on 50% shooting in a 4-game road stretch in the '01 Playoffs vs Kings and Spurs, both teams were elite on the defensive end. He only took 8 threes total.

Stop comparing JT to Kobe, his skillset is very different and not as diverse, even when comparing him to '01 KB.

TheGoatest
05-14-2022, 07:59 AM
LMAO

Those early 00s Kings teams were the epitome of an "All-O, No-D team". The Kings took that torch from the 1992-93 Phoenix Suns and then passed it on to the mid-00s Suns.

bison
05-14-2022, 08:26 AM
The mentorship with Kobe is paying off. Jayson Tatum is probably better than Paul pierce ever was at this point.

CelticBaller
05-14-2022, 08:42 AM
game 6 lebron

CelticBaller
05-14-2022, 08:43 AM
The mentorship with Kobe is paying off. Jayson Tatum is probably better than Paul pierce ever was at this point.

yeah at this point we can all comfortably say that lol

ShawkFactory
05-14-2022, 01:20 PM
Whoring? He's averaging 28/6/5 on 53.6%TS in the Bucks series. That's after his 46-pt performance. So he hasn't been that good for the majority of the series. His strength is his 3PT shooting and they're giving him open looks in drop coverage. Kobe wasn't a 3PT chucker like JT, he was a superior athlete with a better all-around offensive game.

:roll:

TheGoatest
05-14-2022, 01:23 PM
The mentorship with Kobe is paying off. Jayson Tatum is probably better than Paul pierce ever was at this point.

Tatum worked out with Kobe in the offseason between his rookie and 2nd season. Tatum then proceeded to somehow have a worse 2nd season than his rookie one. :facepalm
It took him a whole season to shake the Kobe off and return to his normal career improvement trajectory path.

3ba11
05-14-2022, 03:33 PM
KB had 42/6/5 on Duncan when the Lakers were in danger of going down 1 - 3 in the '04 Semis, and that's an injured Kobe in one of the toughest defensive seasons in league history, against a Spurs' defense that held teams to 84 pts a game and had a 94 DRTG





C'mon bruh... that's WAY too much proof and confirmation that Kobe was far superior

It's kind of like pointing out things in the 2018 Playoffs - Lebron averaged 33/9/8 against the #6 SRS Celtics, but the current Celtics are #1 SRS, so it isn't the same.. Lebron actually wet the bed against #1 SRS teams like the 07' Spurs, 08' Celtics, 14' Spurs, or 11' Bulls - he only did okay when he didn't have to defeat maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load) like the 16' Finals

tpols
05-14-2022, 03:44 PM
What you young fellas saw from Tatum is what it would be like watching a rich mans prime Kobe.

To put it in perspective, Kobe had a slithery drive game, extreme poster ability, extreme creative finishing ability on top of being a dead eye shooter and playmaker. And bail out specialist when need be.

AlternativeAcc.
05-14-2022, 03:47 PM
What you young fellas saw from Tatum is what it would be like watching a rich mans prime Kobe.

To put it in perspactive, Kobe had a slitheryy drive game, extreme poster ability, extreme creative finishing ability on top of being a dead eye shooter and playmaker. And bail out specialist when need be.

So we can expect a Kobe-like game 7 from Tatum tonight? (Kobe averaged 22 on 38% in game 7's)

FultzNationRISE
05-14-2022, 03:50 PM
People make these threads whenever he has that one big game out of every handful he plays, but he's really not consistent enough for people to be calling him that guy IMO.

He's a really good defender, and I think he deserves a lot of credit for bringing that value to the table when his shot's not falling, unlike a lot of other stars. But as a competitor, I just don't think he's a guy who's gonna go in and bully his team to the finish line come hell or high water. He needs his jumper to fall.

Hey, once in a while it does and he has a huge game. He's a good player obviously.

I'm just personally not about to call him an ELITE player.

ShawkFactory
05-14-2022, 03:54 PM
People make these threads whenever he has that one big game out of every handful he plays, but he's really not consistent enough for people to be calling him that guy.

He's a really good defender, and I think he deserves a lot of credit for bringing that value to the table when his shot's not falling, unlike a lot of other stars. But as a competitor, I just don't think he's a guy who's gonna go in bully dudes come hell or high water. He needs his shot to fall.

He’s gotten way more consistent with his decision making and when to put his head down and go at the basket. 6 months ago he’d 100% of the time settle for a bailout shot but it’s different now.

He’s scoring 28 a game in this series and he hasn’t particularly played well. That’s kind of indicative of what he can be I think.

tpols
05-14-2022, 03:56 PM
So we can expect a Kobe-like game 7 from Tatum tonight? (Kobe averaged 22 on 38% in game 7's)

We can probably expect a 0 point game from Tatum tonight since he doesn't play tonight. But tomorrow id expect more. Kobe would have eviscerated this Buck team minus middleton their star second option out.

All in all, we have to appreciate Kobe for what he was. Tatum is a Durant type. He's long and skilled and great but didn't have Kobes overall arsenal by a long shot. Watching Tatum has to make us appreciate how good prime Kobe was even more.

Hey Yo
05-14-2022, 03:58 PM
He averaged 39/10/4 on 50% shooting in a 4-game road stretch in the '01 Playoffs vs Kings and Spurs, both teams were elite on the defensive end. He only took 8 threes total.

Stop comparing JT to Kobe, his skillset is very different and not as diverse, even when comparing him to '01 KB.

Who's Tatum's Shaq?

Any comparison should be made post Shaq cause that's when Kobe finally became first option

AlternativeAcc.
05-14-2022, 04:02 PM
We can probably expect a 0 point game from Tatum tonight since he doesn't play tonight. But tomorrow id expect more. Kobe would have eviscerated this Buck team minus middleton their star second option out.

All in all, we have to appreciate Kobe for what he was. Tatum is a Durant type. He's long and skilled and great but didn't have Kobes overall arsenal by a long shot. Watching Tatum has to make us appreciate how good prime Kobe was even more.

Kobes arsenal only resulted in 22ppg on 38% in game 7's though

That's historically weak. Kobes arsenal was mostly contested jumpers. He wasn't as skilled or physically imposing as you remember him.

Kawhi_Why_Not
05-14-2022, 04:22 PM
He averaged 39/10/4 on 50% shooting in a 4-game road stretch in the '01 Playoffs vs Kings and Spurs, both teams were elite on the defensive end. He only took 8 threes total.

Stop comparing JT to Kobe, his skillset is very different and not as diverse, even when comparing him to '01 KB.

But the defense was still more focused on shaq at the time

Also divac vs Giannis hahahaha

Kawhi_Why_Not
05-14-2022, 04:24 PM
C'mon bruh... that's WAY too much proof and confirmation that Kobe was far superior

It's kind of like pointing out things in the 2018 Playoffs - Lebron averaged 33/9/8 against the #6 SRS Celtics, but the current Celtics are #1 SRS, so it isn't the same.. Lebron actually wet the bed against #1 SRS teams like the 07' Spurs, 08' Celtics, 14' Spurs, or 11' Bulls - he only did okay when he didn't have to defeat maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load) like the 16' Finals

Exactly and any team led by Giannis/jrue is #1 SRS level team, they just didn't really care about the reg season after their ring

Kawhi_Why_Not
05-14-2022, 04:30 PM
Kobes arsenal only resulted in 22ppg on 38% in game 7's though

That's historically weak. Kobes arsenal was mostly contested jumpers. He wasn't as skilled or physically imposing as you remember him.

Yeah I'm not sure where they got physically imposing from about Kobe. He was extremely athletic in the early 2000s but never physically imposing as he was skinny. Then 2008-2010 he was bigger physically but lost his athleticism and turned more into a jump shooter.

Kawhi is much more physically imposing then Kobe ever was

tpols
05-14-2022, 04:39 PM
Kobes arsenal only resulted in 22ppg on 38% in game 7's though

That's historically weak. Kobes arsenal was mostly contested jumpers. He wasn't as skilled or physically imposing as you remember him.

Sure he was. A lot of people just didn't watch back then.

Kobe makes Tatum look like a stiff by comparison athletically. And he was doing this in eras where there was no spacing and rules that catered to more physical defenses.

So comparing numbers with such greatly differing contextual circumstances is naive at best and ignorant at worst. Ill give you the benefit of the doubt and assume the former.


https://youtu.be/T6UnitdiLo0

If anybody even has the attention span to watch the first 2 minutes they'd see the body control, and explosion and dexterity are just on totally different levels.

AlternativeAcc.
05-14-2022, 05:27 PM
Sure he was. A lot of people just didn't watch back then.

Kobe makes Tatum look like a stiff by comparison athletically. And he was doing this in eras where there was no spacing and rules that catered to more physical defenses.

So comparing numbers with such greatly differing contextual circumstances is naive at best and ignorant at worst. Ill give you the benefit of the doubt and assume the former.


https://youtu.be/T6UnitdiLo0

If anybody even has the attention span to watch the first 2 minutes they'd see the body control, and explosion and dexterity are just on totally different levels.

I think Kobe was more athletic and fluid than Tatum for sure. But Tatum is arguably a better two way player and has a better skillset for the playoffs due to size and superior long range shooting + a much better shot selection and basketball IQ.

it's not about athleticism in a vacuum it's about how well you put everything together.

tpols
05-14-2022, 05:56 PM
I think Kobe was more athletic and fluid than Tatum for sure. But Tatum is arguably a better two way player and has a better skillset for the playoffs due to size and superior long range ushooting + a much better shot selection and basketball IQ.

it's not about athleticism in a vacuum it's about how well you put everything together.

Kobe is pretty much regarded as the most skilled player of all time on top of his absurd athleticism advantage. If he was a bum scoring and dribbling and playmaking id agree with you but the guy was a master class in all areas skill wise on top of his ballerina like athleticism and body control.

The difference is Tatum plays in an era where he gets total clear outs on every play. I watched last nights game. Tatum was left in single coverage to bomb as he pleased. Kobe often had whole teams draped on him. Guys back then couldn't space for stars as well as those today. So its just a different era.

I like Tatum... he's a beast. But he ain't Kobe. Close, but gives us all an appreciation for the real deal, you know what I mean?