Time for Luka to cut his teeth and learn how to win (brand of ball) - Warriors sweep

[3ba11]

Or gentlemen's sweep

or 6 games

regardless, Luka is getting ragdolled by Curry's superior brand of ball..

that's how basketball WORKS.. enjoy everyone

Curry ain't a predictable ball-dominator & career loser like CP3, so this series will be different

[AlternativeAcc.]

5 all stars vs 1

Currys brand of ball was lottery without klay and Poole being a star.

He hasn't made the playoffs without klay

[ArbitraryWater]

what do you think will be the bigger reason for a hypothetical GSW win

1) teammates
2) brand of ball


basically,

would GSW also win if Luka and Curry switched teammates?

[AlternativeAcc.]

what do you think will be the bigger reason for a hypothetical GSW win

1) teammates
2) brand of ball


basically,

would GSW also win if Luka and Curry switched teammates?

Curry literally couldn't even make the playoffs with elite 2 way all star Wiggins scoring nearly 20 a game.

Luka is in the WCF with 16ppg Brunson as his 2nd option

:oldlol:


Brand of ball doe.

[GimmeThat]

title wreaks of jealousy issue

[3ba11]

what do you think will be the bigger reason for a hypothetical GSW win

1) teammates
2) brand of ball


basically,

would GSW also win if Luka and Curry switched teammates?


Curry's brand of ball develops all young talents and therefore turns any roster into a dynasty over time

The historical record confirms this:

Heading into the 2015 season, Klay/Dray hadn't been all-stars yet and the Warriors weren't on the contention radar.. The same thing happened heading into this season - Curry developed Poole and turned Wiggins into an all-star.

So the overriding point is that Luka's simpleton, playground skillset (ball-dominance) makes everyone stand in the corner, which prevents the organic dynasty development that Curry's skillset allows... Luka can't win organically with any roster and will need to either develop an off-ball game or be a talent-based winner/team-hopper like other ball-dominators (Lebron)

[AlternativeAcc.]

Curry's brand of ball develops all young talents and therefore turns any roster into a dynasty over time

The historical record confirms this:

Heading into the 2015 season, Klay/Dray hadn't been all-stars yet and the Warriors weren't on the contention radar.. The same thing happened heading into this season - Curry developed Poole and turned Wiggins into an all-star.

So the overriding point is that Luka's simpleton, playground skillset (ball-dominance) makes everyone stand in the corner, which prevents the organic dynasties that Curry's skillset allows... Luka can't win organically with any roster and will need to either develop an off-ball game or be a talent-based winner/team-hopper like other ball-dominators (Lebron)

He just beat the 65-win 1 seed with Brunson as his 2nd option

Curry missed the playoffs with all star Wiggins as his...

[GimmeThat]

Curry's brand of ball develops all young talents and therefore turns any roster into a dynasty over time

The historical record confirms this:

Heading into the 2015 season, Klay/Dray hadn't been all-stars yet and the Warriors weren't on the contention radar.. The same thing happened heading into this season - Curry developed Poole and turned Wiggins into an all-star.

So the overriding point is that Luka's simpleton, playground skillset (ball-dominance) makes everyone stand in the corner, which prevents the organic dynasty development that Curry's skillset allows... Luka can't win organically with any roster and will need to either develop an off-ball game or be a talent-based winner/team-hopper like other ball-dominators (Lebron)

so the lovers definition of Cancun equals the haters definition of Cast Away

[3ba11]

He just beat the 65 1 seed with Brunson as his 2nd option





And he will get ragdolled by Curry's superior brand of ball - Curry isn't some career-losing ball-dominator like Cp3






Curry missed the playoffs with all star Wiggins as his...





Curry had to turn Wiggins into an all-star, which Luka can't do - Wiggins would be standing in the corner alongside Luka's beginner skillset and this Warrior team would be nothing

Again, Curry's skillset will turn any roster into a dynasty over time because he has the best BRAND OF BALL and therefore doesn't need juggernaut TALENT.

Otoh, ball-dominators like Luka can't develop teammates or have good chemistry, so they can't win organically and are forced to team-hop or collude (talent-based winning.. all-star team strategy)

[RRR3]

I see after LeBron retires we’re going to have to hear OP whine about Luka instead.

[King Baron]

Bookmarked for when Mavs win series and Luka goes to the finals.

[Phoenix]

3ball has identified Luka as a threat, hence the sudden obsession. He's pretty much ISHs version of Skip Bayless, making a 'career' out of taking a contrarian position against whoever the 'hot player' is.

For the record, Luka at 23 in his 4th season has had a better playoff career to this point than MJ. And I say that as a REAL Jordan fan, not a hater like OP masquerading as one.

[GimmeThat]

And he will get ragdolled by Curry's superior brand of ball - Curry isn't some career-losing ball-dominator like Cp3






Curry had to turn Wiggins into an all-star, which Luka can't do - Wiggins would be standing in the corner alongside Luka's beginner skillset and this Warrior team would be nothing

Again, Curry's skillset will turn any roster into a dynasty over time because he has the best BRAND OF BALL and therefore doesn't need juggernaut TALENT.

Otoh, ball-dominators like Luka can't develop teammates or have good chemistry, so they can't win organically and are forced to team-hop or collude (talent-based winning.. all-star team strategy)

you make Curry sounds like a No Value Player, and my girlfriend sounds like the Most Valuable Player

[Lebron23]

In before Dallas wins the series

[RRR3]

3ball has identified Luka as a threat, hence the sudden obsession. He's pretty much ISHs version of Skip Bayless, making a 'career' out of taking a contrarian position against whoever the 'hot player' is.

For the record, Luka at 23 in his 4th season has had a better playoff career to this point than MJ. And I say that as a REAL Jordan fan, not a hater like PO masquerading as one.
His real favorite player is Kobe and Luka absolutely is a threat to him lol. He uses Jordan because he’s too scared to compare Kobe’s stats to these guys :lol

[3ba11]

For the record, Luka at 23 in his 4th season has had a better playoff career to this point than MJ. And I say that as a REAL Jordan fan, not a hater like OP masquerading as one.





Jordan missed the vast majority of the 86' season, so his 4th healthy season was 89'.

89' Jordan carried a low seed over the #1 SRS team by averaging 40/6/8 and hitting "the shot"..

Then he upset the Knicks' in the 2nd Round and took the dynasty Pistons to 6 games in the ECF.

So Luka hasn't matched this run because he only has 1 upset (Jordan had 2) and he's about to get ragdolled by the dynasty, while also having worse stats.

Btw, Porzingas confirms what happens when Luka's ball-dominance has a talented teammate - he underachieves with them like Lebron.

[ShawkFactory]

It's NOT...Curry's brand of ball.....

[ArbitraryWater]

Curry's brand of ball develops all young talents and therefore turns any roster into a dynasty over time

The historical record confirms this:

Heading into the 2015 season, Klay/Dray hadn't been all-stars yet and the Warriors weren't on the contention radar.. The same thing happened heading into this season - Curry developed Poole and turned Wiggins into an all-star.

So the overriding point is that Luka's simpleton, playground skillset (ball-dominance) makes everyone stand in the corner, which prevents the organic dynasty development that Curry's skillset allows... Luka can't win organically with any roster and will need to either develop an off-ball game or be a talent-based winner/team-hopper like other ball-dominators (Lebron)

how about you answer the question?

[8Ball]

Luka already better at 23 than Jordan at 23.


This Jordan mythology needs to stop. We have seen plenty of better players than Jordan since 1998.

[Phoenix]

Jordan missed the vast majority of the 86' season, so his 4th healthy season was 89'.

89' Jordan carried a low seed over the #1 SRS team by averaging 40/6/8 and hitting "the shot"..

Then he upset the Knicks' in the 2nd Round and took the dynasty Pistons to 6 games in the ECF.

So Luka hasn't matched this run because he only has 1 upset (Jordan had 2) and he's about to get ragdolled by the dynasty, while also having worse stats.

Btw, Porzingas confirms what happens when Luka's ball-dominance has a talented teammate - he underachieves with them like Lebron.

So you focus on the '4th season' thing. Shall we discuss Luka's first two playoff series next to MJ?s Or hell, let's discuss their first. Luka against the Clippers with peak Kawhi( someone on your top 10) took them to 7 games with a much worse team( did it twice). MJ managed a single win against the Bucks and we don't really need to rehash him not winning a single game against Boston, do we? Yes, he had a much worse team, but Luka in the same situation put up way more resistance.

Luka has had the better overall playoff start to his career.

[Hey Yo]

Jordan missed the vast majority of the 86' season, so his 4th healthy season was 89'.

89' Jordan carried a low seed over the #1 SRS team by averaging 40/6/8 and hitting "the shot"..

Then he upset the Knicks' in the 2nd Round and took the dynasty Pistons to 6 games in the ECF.

So Luka hasn't matched this run because he only has 1 upset (Jordan had 2) and he's about to get ragdolled by the dynasty, while also having worse stats.

Btw, Porzingas confirms what happens when Luka's ball-dominance has a talented teammate - he underachieves with them like Lebron.

89' Jordan quit in game 5 of the ECF, then (when interviewed after the game) proceeds to throw his team under the bus for not making shots from his passes.

[tontoz]

Curry literally couldn't even make the playoffs with elite 2 way all star Wiggins scoring nearly 20 a game.

Luka is in the WCF with 16ppg Brunson as his 2nd option

:oldlol:


Brand of ball doe.

Lebron couldn't even make the play in with Anthony Davis. :oldlol:

[DMAVS41]

what do you think will be the bigger reason for a hypothetical GSW win

1) teammates
2) brand of ball


basically,

would GSW also win if Luka and Curry switched teammates?

As great as Curry is...if they switched teams the Warriors would be like -500 to win this series. Maybe that is wrong and Curry deserves more respect, but they would be overwhelming favorites to win this series and the title.

People on here, as usual, just hate the style and it blinds them to how great Luka is. Just hilarious to hear that Luka's style is the problem...it's a nothing noteworthy supporting cast, at all, in the conference finals with the best or 2nd best record in the league since February. Yep...great evidence that Luka's style of play is hurting the team.

[tontoz]

As great as Curry is...if they switched teams the Warriors would be like -500 to win this series. Maybe that is wrong and Curry deserves more respect, but they would be overwhelming favorites to win this series and the title.

People on here, as usual, just hate the style and it blinds them to how great Luka is. Just hilarious to hear that Luka's style is the problem...it's a nothing noteworthy supporting cast, at all, in the conference finals with the best or 2nd best record in the league since February. Yep...great evidence that Luka's style of play is hurting the team.


Every great player has people here hating on them. Nobody is exempt.

[NBAGOAT]

Jordan missed the vast majority of the 86' season, so his 4th healthy season was 89'.

89' Jordan carried a low seed over the #1 SRS team by averaging 40/6/8 and hitting "the shot"..

Then he upset the Knicks' in the 2nd Round and took the dynasty Pistons to 6 games in the ECF.

So Luka hasn't matched this run because he only has 1 upset (Jordan had 2) and he's about to get ragdolled by the dynasty, while also having worse stats.

Btw, Porzingas confirms what happens when Luka's ball-dominance has a talented teammate - he underachieves with them like Lebron.

the jazz were picked to win the series tbf most of it was because luka was out. they're a joke now but still this is a team that was the 1 seed last year and on paper significantly more talented than dallas.

[AlternativeAcc.]

And he will get ragdolled by Curry's superior brand of ball - Curry isn't some career-losing ball-dominator like Cp3






Curry had to turn Wiggins into an all-star, which Luka can't do - Wiggins would be standing in the corner alongside Luka's beginner skillset and this Warrior team would be nothing

Again, Curry's skillset will turn any roster into a dynasty over time because he has the best BRAND OF BALL and therefore doesn't need juggernaut TALENT.

Otoh, ball-dominators like Luka can't develop teammates or have good chemistry, so they can't win organically and are forced to team-hop or collude (talent-based winning.. all-star team strategy)

He doesn't need juggernaut talent but they by far have the most talent... and without it they were lottery. Interesting take.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Lebron couldn't even make the play in with Anthony Davis. :oldlol:

Lebron has 4 FMVP'S

How many does Curry have?

[Spurs m8]

On top of that...

Look at Curry's team mates and look at Lukas lol

Have them switch teams and see who wins

[tontoz]

Lebron has 4 FMVP'S

How many does Curry have?

How many did he have before he started team hopping?

[AlternativeAcc.]

How many did he have before he started team hopping?

How many did Curry get on a 73 win team or with the USA Olympic team?

Surely he's gotten 1 in 5 tries right? :lol

[warriorfan]

AlternativeAccount is off his medication again.

Hang in there little guy.

[tontoz]

How many did Curry get on a 73 win team or with the USA Olympic team?

Surely he's gotten 1 in 5 tries right? :lol

Curry does have something nobody else has, a unanimous MVP.

He also had a winning record last year when Klay didn't even play. Meanwhile LeBron, with AD actually playing, finished 33-49.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/Screenshot_20220317-165338.jpg


https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/IMG_20220411_121203.jpg

[AlternativeAcc.]

Curry does have something nobody else has, a unanimous MVP.

He also had a winning record last year when Klay didn't even play. Meanwhile LeBron, with AD actually playing, finished 33-49.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/Screenshot_20220317-165338.jpg


https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/IMG_20220411_121203.jpg
In the year he won that unanimous MVP, how did he fare in the finals vs LeBron? Surely he got the best of him, being as though that was his peak season.

Right?

And nice, congrats on the lottery without klay.

[Shooter]

5 all stars vs 1

Currys brand of ball was lottery without klay and Poole being a star.

He hasn't made the playoffs without klay

1st post slays hit different :lol

[tontoz]

In the year he won that unanimous MVP, how did he fare in the finals vs LeBron? Surely he got the best of him, being as though that was his peak season.

Right?

And nice, congrats on the lottery without klay.


39-33 is a lot better than 33-49. The Lakers would love to be in the lottery this year. They would be picking top 10 if they actually had a pick.

[AlternativeAcc.]

39-33 is a lot better than 33-49. The Lakers would love to be in the lottery this year. They would be picking top 10 if they actually had a pick.

Lottery is lottery

But peak curry vs. prime lebron in the finals. What happened?

[Spuddywebby]

Golden States fourth option on offense, whether you think that is Dray or Poole, is better than everyone on the Mavs except Luka. If Dallas is able to even win 2 games against GS, it would be impressive. If they win the series, then you have to have Luka top 1-2 in the league for next season.

[NBAGOAT]

Golden States fourth option on offense, whether you think that is Dray or Poole, is better than everyone on the Mavs except Luka. If Dallas is able to even win 2 games against GS, it would be impressive. If they win the series, then you have to have Luka top 1-2 in the league for next season.

it's klay now who's the 4th best player imo and he hasnt been that great. Dallas isnt a talented offensive team but they have very few issues on defense, most of their rotations guys can defend well. Also, if someone said brunson was better right now I wouldn't argue, he's scoring 23 in the playoffs. Finney-smith is no draymond but he's close to an ideal 3nD guy. Mikal Bridges gets a lot of praise and he is younger tbf but finney smith is not that far behind right now and likely even more versatile on defense(can play the small ball 5 or guard curry). Rest of their top 6 has no issues in bullock, dinwiddie, and kleber.

It's some hot shooting but dinwiddie, finney-smith, bullock, kleber are shooting a combined 42% from 3 on 23 attempts a game in the playoffs. Yes brunson and dinwiddie arent elite shot creators but luka can make up for that and when you have that type of shooting around your ball handlers, your offense is going do pretty well even without elite talent.

[3ba11]

https://c.tenor.com/RJslWn_-suoAAAAM/snoop-dogg-dance.gif

[Gohan]

5 all stars vs 1

Currys brand of ball was lottery without klay and Poole being a star.

He hasn't made the playoffs without klay
Say what you say but ill take dinwiddie hes a baller

[kawhileonard2]

5 all stars vs 1

Currys brand of ball was lottery without klay and Poole being a star.

He hasn't made the playoffs without klay

Lebron missed the playoffs with Westbrook while Westbrook never missed the playoffs before playing with another star that played at least half the season.

[RRR3]

https://c.tenor.com/RJslWn_-suoAAAAM/snoop-dogg-dance.gif
Luka doesn't have anywhere near the help Curry does, you're a moron

[Phoenix]

https://c.tenor.com/RJslWn_-suoAAAAM/snoop-dogg-dance.gif

A reminder that MJ lost to the Pistons 3 years in a row before he broke through, and was 4 years older than Luka currently is when he did. Part of the MJ story was the early career losing before he climbed the mountaintop. Why are acting like a 23 year old Luka has run out of time or isn't going through the same growing pains? MJ at 23 was getting swept by the Celtics.

[Axe]

39-33 is a lot better than 33-49. The Lakers would love to be in the lottery this year. They would be picking top 10 if they actually had a pick.
39-33 but lost the 8th seed to ja 'prick' morant's grizzlies last year. Curse you oubre jr., poole, wiseman, bazemore and wiggins. :cry:

The first superstar ever to have b2b losses in the play ins aka losers bracket despite the winning record of his team.

[LeCola]

5 all stars vs 1

Currys brand of ball was lottery without klay and Poole being a star.

He hasn't made the playoffs without klay

Reminds me Lakers

Lebron even missed playin on a 6 HOF team.

6 HOF >>>>>>>> 5 all stars

[jayfan]

A reminder that MJ lost to the Pistons 3 years in a row before he broke through, and was 4 years older than Luka currently is when he did. Part of the MJ story was the early career losing before he climbed the mountaintop. Why are acting like a 23 year old Luka has run out of time or isn't going through the same growing pains? MJ at 23 was getting swept by the Celtics.

He's not saying Luka has run out of time. Just that time is up for this year. He needs to learn how to win through losing this series, like MJ with the Pistons. And adjust his game accordingly, like MJ did over the years (thanks to Phil). He's making the same point you are.



* Incidentally, Dallas will likely lose this series, but last night's game shouldn't be taken as any indication of how the series will go. Dallas was always going to get crushed in Game 1. A team doesn't win by 40 in a Game 7 and then turn around and play well two nights later. Human nature doesn't work that way. The worst team in the league would have beaten Dallas last night. Game 2 will be a much fairer indicator of how this series will go.


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[tpols]

Luka doesn't have anywhere near the help Curry does, you're a moron

That didn't matter when you guys bring up butler vs LeBron... hmmm...

I think we are going to have you guys sign apology forms for 3ball. This is getting out of hand. Mods can you help here?

[ShawkFactory]

That didn't matter when you guys bring up butler vs LeBron... hmmm...

I think we are going to have you guys sign apology forms for 3ball. This is getting out of hand. Mods can you help here?

Why because the better team won game 1 at home?

Weren't they like 8 point favorites?

[red1]

jordan got destroyed by stacked teams too so I dont know why 3ball is celebrating. the celtics and pistons slapped mj around when he was a kid at luka's age. he dropped 63 against the celtics at luka's exact age of 23 but him and his team still got their shit pushed in.

[SouBeachTalents]

That didn't matter when you guys bring up butler vs LeBron... hmmm...

I think we are going to have you guys sign apology forms for 3ball. This is getting out of hand. Mods can you help here?
3ball should sign apology forms to us for having embarrassingly bad takes like these

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493318-Curry-is-the-most-overrated-player-in-history

Even tpols had to call him out on that shit :lol

[Wally450]

So when the Mavs win game two and Luka drops a triple double while Curry scores 12 points, is OP going to jump back to his 'Curry is overrated' narrative and pick the Mavs to win the series?

Dude made a thread before game 2 of the Celtics Bucks series saying 'This is the game where we see if the Celtics prove they're a championship caliber team or fakers'. Like no shit. They're either going to win or lose. Great take there.

I normally just scan by 3balls posts because I can't be bothered, but when I take a minute to read a post or two, it physically makes my head hurt.

[3ba11]

https://c.tenor.com/RJslWn_-suoAAAAM/snoop-dogg-dance.gif

[Phoenix]

He's not saying Luka has run out of time. Just that time is up for this year. He needs to learn how to win through losing this series, like MJ with the Pistons. And adjust his game accordingly, like MJ did over the years (thanks to Phil). He's making the same point you are.






.

Clearly that gif was intended as an 'I told you so' because the Mavs lost last night. Not only is it just game 1, but had the Mavs won he'd have crawled back under his bridge. He isn't making the same points because there are plenty of posts where he excuses MJ losing in his early career, while giving Luka shit like he's a failure because he hasn't won anything yet, after 4 seasons and at the age of 23. Luka's playoff career, if we're measuring it in team success, has started better than MJ's and it's not like Luka has played with deeply talented teams and he's what? 2nd in playoff PPG currently while dropping like 9 rebounds and assisted to boot( I don't know the exact numbers, too lazy to look up at the moment). Dude has balled out in the playoffs, win or lose. The Clips were way more talented, and Luka took them 7 in his first playoff series 2 years ago; MJ managed one win against the Bucks his first playoff series.

Edit: and there the troll is once again with the same dumbass gif. What do you think he's trying to say?

[Phoenix]

jordan got destroyed by stacked teams too so I dont know why 3ball is celebrating. the celtics and pistons slapped mj around when he was a kid at luka's age. he dropped 63 against the celtics at luka's exact age of 23 but him and his team still got their shit pushed in.

Precisely.

[3ba11]

jordan got destroyed by stacked teams too so I dont know why 3ball is celebrating. the celtics and pistons slapped mj around when he was a kid at luka's age. he dropped 63 against the celtics at luka's exact age of 23 but him and his team still got their shit pushed in.


Jordan eventually learned how to win (brand of ball... Organic)

Lets see if Luka can.....

Or will he be like every other ball-dominator - will he just be a talent-based winner because his brand of ball is weak?..

I know that Luka will a talent-based winner due to weak brand because Lebron already showed it - it's a weak brand, so it can't win with brand of ball and therefore is a talent-based winner (all-star team strategy.. team-hopping/colluding).. so he can never learn how to win (brand of ball)

[Phoenix]

Jordan eventually learned how to win (brand of ball... Organic)

Lets see if Luka can.....

Or will he be like every other ball-dominator - will he just be a talent-based winner because his brand of ball is weak?..

I know that Luka will a talent-based winner due to weak brand because Lebron already showed it - it's a weak brand, so it can't win with brand of ball and therefore is a talent-based winner (all-star team strategy.. team-hopping/colluding).. so he can never learn how to win (brand of ball)

Ok and until such as he does, or doesn't....what's the point in rattling on about what he hasn't done yet? The guy is 23 FFS....

[SouBeachTalents]

Ok and until such as he does, or doesn't....what's the point in rattling on about what he hasn't done yet? The guy is 23 FFS....
Bro, you really shouldn’t even indulge him. It’s obv he just does this for attention, hence his constant threads and complete 180’s.

[Phoenix]

Bro, you really shouldn’t even indulge him. It’s obv he just does this for attention, hence his constant threads and complete 180’s.

Yeah I hear ya, just annoying as shit. Like, we have the retrospective knowledge of MJ's career; some of us were around in the 80's and recall that MJ was considered a high scoring solo act but couldn't lead his team to a title (scoring champions don't win rings). Of course he went on to disprove that, but It's why Magic and Bird were considered the two premier players even if MJ was individually more spectacular and box office or whatever. It took him 7 years to drop that stigma; Luka has just completed his 4th season and in the middle of his third playoff run. It's way too soon to have ANY clue about what he may or may not do. Hell, Lebron took.....what...years to win his first title. It's just way too soon and I agree that engaging with that moron is a waste of time, but sometimes you just gotta call someone on their bullshit.

[Hazchazthebaz]

gonna be a lot of hyper-reactions but i just think he will take a bit of a shock from that game and make slight adjustments to make it more of a contest. read what they are giving you. this tactic over time means he becomes more powerful after 7 games

[AlternativeAcc.]

Curry at age 22 had 3 teammates scoring over 16ppg, and one at 24ppg

They were lottery

22-23 year old luka is better than peak curry. It's not even close.

These are just the facts

[r0drig0lac]

5 all stars vs 1

Currys brand of ball was lottery without klay and Poole being a star.

He hasn't made the playoffs without klay/thread

[LeGoat4Life]

He just beat the 65-win 1 seed with Brunson as his 2nd option

Curry missed the playoffs with all star Wiggins as his...

Meanwhile Lebron miss the playoff with All star AD and MVP Westbrook :lol

[AlternativeAcc.]

Meanwhile Lebron miss the playoff with All star AD and MVP Westbrook :lol

LeBron has already accomplished 100x more than curry and won 4 fmvps

Curry hasn't done anything in this league and Luka surpassed him at age 23. :lol

Lottery without klay, and luka is WCF with zero all stars. Those are the facts. Sorry

[red1]

Jordan eventually learned how to win (brand of ball... Organic)

Lets see if Luka can.....

Or will he be like every other ball-dominator - will he just be a talent-based winner because his brand of ball is weak?..

I know that Luka will a talent-based winner due to weak brand because Lebron already showed it - it's a weak brand, so it can't win with brand of ball and therefore is a talent-based winner (all-star team strategy.. team-hopping/colluding).. so he can never learn how to win (brand of ball)

jordan learned how to win...


when he got pippen and grant.

[3ba11]

jordan learned how to win...


when he got pippen and grant.


Porzingas or Brunson would challenge Pippen for best teammate Jordan ever had - Jordan had the least star help of anyone in history that won multiple rings - it isn't even CLOSE

And who is Horace Grant.. I've heard of Harvey Grant...I didn't know there was a Horace

[RRR3]

Porzingas or Brunson would challenged Pippen for best teammate Jordan ever had

And who is Horace Grant.. I've heard of Harvey Grant...I didn't know there was a Horace
:roll:

[3ba11]

:roll:


Porzingas was more talented than Pippen - that's a fact of you know basketball - but Luka's ball-dominance destroyed him and used up him up.. Porzingas is what Pippen would've been alongside a ball-dominator.

And Brunson has already played better in these playoffs than Pippen ever did.

Jordan had the least star help of anyone in history that won multiple rings - it isn't even CLOSE

[3ba11]

Oh... And

https://c.tenor.com/sb3ld0kvq0sAAAAC/chano-rapero.gif

[RRR3]

Porzingas was more talented than Pippen - that's a fact of you know basketball - but Luka's ball-dominance destroyed him and used up him up.. Porzingas is what Pippen would've been alongside a ball-dominator.

And Brunson has already played better in these playoffs than Pippen ever did.

Jordan had the least star help of anyone in history that won multiple rings - it isn't even CLOSE
According to you it was much harder to score when Pippen played, so his 21.6 PPG on good efficiency (for the time) in the 91 playoffs is far better than what Brunson is doing by your own logic.

[3ba11]

According to you it was much harder to score when Pippen played, so his 21.6 PPG on good efficiency (for the time) in the 91 playoffs is far better than what Brunson is doing by your own logic.


Pippen had no responsibility - he was never asked to take over like Brunson has several times in these playoffs

Btw, 21.6 is the worst peak of any player worth anything... Ever... Larry Hughes matched that in the regular season... Reggie Miller and Horry destroyed Pippen in the playoffs.. Pippen's best is BELOW these guys (below Miller and below Horry's peak capability - see the 95' Finals gamescore)

[3ba11]

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[Spuddywebby]

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I’ve lurked for awhile and while I thought your Jordan thing was weird, other things you wrote seemed like you knew basketball and were a genuine fan. This GS thing though, is borderline insanity. You are celebrating that a team, whose first two guys off the bench, are better than anyone on Dallas except for Luka, are winning because “brand of ball” and not the glacier sized talent disparity?? Like when Luka passes to wide open Bertans or Kleber and they brick the shot or when people blow by Bullock or bully Bronson, that’s “Brand of Ball” that’s not and NBA contending team playing against a bunch of NBA role players?

[Shooter]

Jordan's "Brand of ball" really boils down to "Having more talent and playing shit opponents."

Congratulations, you played yourself :lol Again :lol

[3ba11]

Jordan's "Brand of ball" really boils down to "Having more talent and playing shit opponents."

Congratulations, you played yourself :lol Again :lol


Jordan faced 6 battle-tested, organic juggernauts in the Finals - the exact same kind of team that demolishes Lebron - 6 organic, Spurs-like opponents

And nearly every playoff opponent that the Bulls faced had more scoring help, while most also had a better defense, such as 5 of 7 Finals and ECF opponents from 90-93'.

Jordan also beat 2 Finals opponents that had more all-stars (93', 96') and 2 that had homecourt (93', 98')

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Jordan faced 6 battle-tested, organic juggernauts in the Finals - the exact same kind of team that demolishes Lebron - 6 organic, Spurs-like opponents

And nearly every playoff opponent that the Bulls faced had more scoring help, while most also had a better defense, such as 5 of 7 Finals and ECF opponents from 90-93'.

Jordan also beat 2 Finals opponents that had more all-stars (93', 96') and 2 that had homecourt (93', 98')
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[red1]

I just rewatched some of the 90's finals - LOL





jordan never played a single team as good as what this poor little slovenian kid is up against right now.

[3ba11]

I’ve lurked for awhile and while I thought your Jordan thing was weird, other things you wrote seemed like you knew basketball and were a genuine fan. This GS thing though, is borderline insanity. You are celebrating that a team, whose first two guys off the bench, are better than anyone on Dallas except for Luka, are winning because “brand of ball” and not the glacier sized talent disparity?? Like when Luka passes to wide open Bertans or Kleber and they brick the shot or when people blow by Bullock or bully Bronson, that’s “Brand of Ball” that’s not and NBA contending team playing against a bunch of NBA role players?


Poole and Wiggins wouldn't be considered good players in a low-ball-movement and low-assist offense (abnormally-ball-dominant offense) - the kind that Luka's rudimentary skillset yields.

His beginner skillset (ball-dominance) would make Poole and Wiggins stand in the corner

We've seen how good Brunson is without Luka - he would be another star on the Warriors - another guy that no one saw coming like Poole or Wiggins becoming an all-star.

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Poole and Wiggins wouldn't be considered good players in a low-ball-movement and low-assist offense (abnormally-ball-dominant offense) - the kind that Luka's rudimentary skillset yields.

His beginner skillset (ball-dominance) would make Poole and Wiggins stand in the corner

We've seen how good Brunson is without Luka - he would be another star on the Warriors - another guy that no one saw coming like Poole or Wiggins becoming an all-star.

you're retarded.



the warriors this year are just as good as their 73-win version. they're going to win the ring this year unless tatum brown smart and grant williams get lucky and manage to get hot from 3 in the finals.




again - jordan never played a SINGLE team as good as the current warriors.

[3ba11]

you're retarded.



the warriors this year are just as good as their 73-win version. they're going to win the ring this year unless tatum brown smart and grant williams get lucky and manage to get hot from 3 in the finals.




again - jordan never played a SINGLE team as good as the current warriors.


.
Regular Season

Hornacek (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hornaje01.html)'.... 17.7 PER.. 2.9 bpm.. 0.153 ws/48.. 42.1 vorp on 33,964 min.. 15/3/5 on 58.2 ts
Klay (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompkl01.html)............. 16.4 PER.. 0.7 bpm.. 0.110 ws/48.. 14.4 vorp on 20,380 min.. 19/3/2 on 57.5 ts


Playoffs

Hornacek (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hornaje01.html)'.... 16.5 PER.. 3.1 bpm.. 0.145 ws/48.. 14.1 vorp on 4766 min.. 15/4/4 on 57.5 ts
Klay (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompkl01.html)............. 14.4 PER.. 0.7 bpm.. 0.091 ws/48.... 3.1 vorp on 4570 min.. 19/3/2 on 56.0 ts


Klay/Dray hadn't been all-stars yet heading into the 2015 season - the Warriors were newbies that could barely beat an injured Lebron team, so they have no chance against the 98' Jazz that swept Shaq's 4 all-star Lakers and demolished Duncan/Popovich/Robinson.

Again, the 90's West had insane parity and history shows that any winner of that conference had YEARS OF WARS in that conference

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.
Regular Season

Hornacek (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hornaje01.html)'.... 17.7 PER.. 2.9 bpm.. 0.153 ws/48.. 42.1 vorp on 33,964 min.. 15/3/5 on 58.2 ts
Klay (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompkl01.html)............. 16.4 PER.. 0.7 bpm.. 0.110 ws/48.. 14.4 vorp on 20,380 min.. 19/3/2 on 57.5 ts


Playoffs

Hornacek (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hornaje01.html)'.... 16.5 PER.. 3.1 bpm.. 0.145 ws/48.. 14.1 vorp on 4766 min.. 15/4/4 on 57.5 ts
Klay (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompkl01.html)............. 14.4 PER.. 0.7 bpm.. 0.091 ws/48.... 3.1 vorp on 4570 min.. 19/3/2 on 56.0 ts


Klay/Dray hadn't been all-stars yet heading into the 2015 season - the Warriors were newbies that could barely beat an injured Lebron team, so they have no chance against the 98' Jazz that swept Shaq's 4 all-star Lakers and demolished Duncan/Popovich/Robinson.

Again, the 90's West had insane parity and history shows that any winner of that conference had YEARS OF WARS in that conference

stop bro.


last time you compared the jazz to the warriors it didnt end too well for you. :oldlol:

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hornacek =/= klay thompson :oldlol:

[3ba11]

hornacek =/= klay thompson :oldlol:


I never said Hornacek was better.. I just said that his production rate was much higher, including PER, BPM, VORP, and WS/48

And Stockton/Malone > Dray/Curry obviously

Ostertag ragdolls Bogut... Byron Russell and Shandon Anderson is like having 2 Iggy's

This superior talent plus YEARS OF WARS is why the Jazz were an organic juggernaut that ragdolled Shaq/Duncan, while the newbie Warriors barely beat an injured Cavs team

[red1]

I never said Hornacek was better.. I just said that his production rate was much higher, including PER, BPM, VORP, and WS/48

And Stockton/Malone > Dray/Curry obviously

Ostertag ragdolls Bogut... Byron Russell and Shandon Anderson is like having 2 Iggy's

This superior talent plus YEARS OF WARS is why the Jazz were an organic juggernaut that ragdolled Shaq/Duncan, while the newbie Warriors barely beat an injured Cavs team

talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. we've gone down this road before.


the jazz are not as good as the curry klay warriors. period.

[3ba11]

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[FKAri]

I’ve lurked for awhile and while I thought your Jordan thing was weird, other things you wrote seemed like you knew basketball and were a genuine fan. This GS thing though, is borderline insanity. You are celebrating that a team, whose first two guys off the bench, are better than anyone on Dallas except for Luka, are winning because “brand of ball” and not the glacier sized talent disparity?? Like when Luka passes to wide open Bertans or Kleber and they brick the shot or when people blow by Bullock or bully Bronson, that’s “Brand of Ball” that’s not and NBA contending team playing against a bunch of NBA role players?

He doesn't know basketball. He finds shit someone else said and regurgitates it without understanding the context in which it was said. Try having a discussion on the spot with him about basketball and he turns into an ESPN talking head. Worthless to engage with even for amusement since it's all copy pasted.

[3ba11]

He doesn't know basketball. He finds shit someone else said and regurgitates it without understanding the context in which it was said. Try having a discussion on the spot with him about basketball and he turns into an ESPN talking head. Worthless to engage with even for amusement since it's all copy pasted.


I go against everything on ESPN and you can't find a quote of mine that sounds like ESPN

I'm anti-ESPN and my takes show that

You just said a bunch of crap that's the opposite of the truth because you're very tired of my correct predictions

I saw ESPN copy this forum by using the stat "assisted rate" to describe Luka's garbage play the other day. They're getting their cues from us trust me

[1987_Lakers]

He doesn't know basketball. He finds shit someone else said and regurgitates it without understanding the context in which it was said. Try having a discussion on the spot with him about basketball and he turns into an ESPN talking head. Worthless to engage with even for amusement since it's all copy pasted.

:applause:

[3ba11]

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Lol you guys are losing so bad

Russian collusion was real too right?

Lol keep making shit up and being wrong about.... EVERYTHING

Imagine never predicting anything correctly.. You rely on me for correct predictions... admit it

[1987_Lakers]

Lol you guys are losing so bad

Russian collusion was real too right?

Lol keep making shit up and being wrong about.... EVERYTHING

Imagine never predicting anything correctly.. You rely on me for correct predictions... admit it

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?487615-Prediction-people-will-be-saying-Oubre-gt-Klay-at-times-this-next-season

[SouBeachTalents]

Yeah, look at this "trolling"

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?487615-Prediction-people-will-be-saying-Oubre-gt-Klay-at-times-this-next-season&p=14224137&viewfull=1#post14224137

:lol

[3ba11]

Yeah, look at this "trolling"

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?487615-Prediction-people-will-be-saying-Oubre-gt-Klay-at-times-this-next-season&p=14224137&viewfull=1#post14224137

:lol


I have 50k posts and you can only cite 2 mistakes I made?

Curry, Giannis and the Oubre troll? that's all you got in 50k posts?. I rest my case

I'm 49,997 - 2 with 1 draw (the Oubre troll)... According to you

And I fixed the Curry mistake by making him top 5 in November of 2021 - that's 8 months before everyone else follows suit in June

[1987_Lakers]

Yeah, look at this "trolling"

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?487615-Prediction-people-will-be-saying-Oubre-gt-Klay-at-times-this-next-season&p=14224137&viewfull=1#post14224137

:lol

Dude wrote a whole essay defending Oubre after his thread backfire, but now it's "trolling"

:oldlol:

[3ba11]

Dude wrote a whole essay defending Oubre after his thread backfire, but now it's "trolling"

:oldlol:


When's the last time you predicted a sweep in a series that people were on both sides on - Nick Wright said Dallas would win in 5

Show me your last good prediction and I'll show you mine.

Let's see who lasts longer

[SouBeachTalents]

Dude wrote a whole essay defending Oubre after his thread backfire, but now it's "trolling"

:oldlol:
Some more gems from that thread

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?487615-Prediction-people-will-be-saying-Oubre-gt-Klay-at-times-this-next-season&p=14239722&viewfull=1#post14239722

[3ba11]

Some more gems from that thread

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?487615-Prediction-people-will-be-saying-Oubre-gt-Klay-at-times-this-next-season&p=14239722&viewfull=1#post14239722


The best trolls are vehemently defended

Never back down or it isn't a troll.. Can't break character while the thread is hot

[Axe]

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OP is going to rank him at top 10. :rockon:

[SpaceJam]

It sucks for Luka but he will learn from this.

If only it was still best of 5. 3-0 isn't a sweep :(

[coin24]

So many times in mavs games I’ve watched, close game at the end, and stupid ass donthicc launches a contested 3 :facepalm he really makes some bad decisions..

When he’s on its amazing to watch though, but he doesn’t have that many great pieces around him. Cubans done a crappy job so far

[3ba11]

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