Watching the great debate on tnt right now?

[Kblaze8855]

About Russell, Jordan, Kareem, Magic, Russell, and Kobe(who I assume replaced Bird). I don’t know if it’s like an actual goat thing or what but it’s interesting.

Always amazing to me how mature past players are compared to current ones. 25 year old Russell looks and behaved like a 40 year old. These dudes today act like buffons.

[Shogon]

Always amazing to me how mature past players are compared to current ones. 25 year old Russell looks and behaved like a 40 year old. These dudes today act like buffons.

Technology, wealth and all around easier lives. That is fairly natural, so it would seem.

[Kblaze8855]

I’m Wondering if they are gonna call out Karl Malone for not wanting magic in the league. I understand to some degree because back then we really did think you got aids(nobody called it HIV) and died on Thursday. There was a while there where every time you heard his name on tv you expected “….has passed away.” behind it. It’s hard to explain to young people but we really did think Magic was gonna die like that month. Then that year. At that all star game he came back to play we legit believed it was goodbye. And he’s sitting here talking about it 30 years later.

And I see they used magics section to work Bird in after probably stealing his section for Kobe.

[Shogon]

I’m Wondering if they are gonna call out Karl Malone for not wanting magic in the league. I understand to some degree because back then we really did think you got aids(nobody called it HIV) and died on Thursday. There was a whole there where every time you heard his name on tv you expected “….has passed away.” behind it. It’s hard to explain to young people but we really did think Magic was gonna die like that month.

I remember this. I was only a little kid at the time and I remember that definitely being the mindset.

I also remember jokes about money curing aids, later on.

[Shogon]

I do not agree whatsoever with Kenny Smith's take that Jordan was the first "social media" star. Come on now, lol.

He was the first mass media and extremely heavily marketed star, I will say that. But that was such an incredibly horrible take.

There is absolutely no telling whatsoever how Jordan would have dealt with a device that follows him around in his pocket in which he has real time access to people constantly trashing him.

Shit, the crying meme bothered him so much that he tried to get it scrubbed from the internet iirc and he even mentioned the meme at Kobe's memorial. I think he clearly cared substantially less later on.

[jlip]

I’m Wondering if they are gonna call out Karl Malone for not wanting magic in the league. I understand to some degree because back then we really did think you got aids(nobody called it HIV) and died on Thursday. There was a while there where every time you heard his name on tv you expected “….has passed away.” behind it. It’s hard to explain to young people but we really did think Magic was gonna die like that month. Then that year. At that all star game he came back to play we legit believed it was goodbye. And he’s sitting here talking about it 30 years later.

And I see they used magics section to work Bird in after probably stealing his section for Kobe.

Maaaannn... I was 14 when that announcement came out and remember that day vividly. I definitely remember thinking at that time that Magic could die any day. Every celebrity that had it was dying, and as far as I was concerned, Magic was the biggest name to contract it. I'm so glad that there was no social media back then because the scare would have been worse than with Covid. People were saying that you could contract AIDS from toilet seats, and with the relative newness of the condition and such limited information regarding its transmissibility, I believe that Karl Malone only said publicly what some players were thinking internally.

[FultzNationRISE]

About Russell, Jordan, Kareem, Magic, Russell, and Kobe(who I assume replaced Bird). I don’t know if it’s like an actual goat thing or what but it’s interesting.

Always amazing to me how mature past players are compared to current ones. 25 year old Russell looks and behaved like a 40 year old. These dudes today act like buffons.

Im not watching it but I think it’s fair to assume Russell wasnt included twice :lol, is one of those supposed to be Wilt?

[Kblaze8855]

Lebron is the other one.

[Kblaze8855]

Maaaannn... I was 14 when that announcement came out and remember that day vividly. I definitely remember thinking at that time that Magic could die any day. Every celebrity that had it was dying, and as far as I was concerned, Magic was the biggest name to contract it. I'm so glad that there was no social media back then because the scare would have been worse than with Covid. People were saying that you could contract AIDS from toilet seats, and with the relative newness of the condition and such limited information regarding its transmissibility, I believe that Karl Malone only said publicly what some players were thinking internally.


Yea we heard it was in sweat. Spit. Not to share forks and shit. We didn’t know anything. And he probably was the biggest name for a while. I guess Freddie Mercury was bigger when that came out but his was like we thought Magic’s would be. He died like a week after they said he had it didn’t he?

Maybe I’m thinking of someone else.

[FultzNationRISE]

Lebron is the other one.


Oh word.

Well I guess I could turn it on for a little while.

[Kblaze8855]

So Freddie announced a couple weeks after Magic and died the very next DAY. So that should help understand why we didn’t think Magic had long.

[FultzNationRISE]

Yea we heard it was in sweat. Spit. Not to share forks and shit. We didn’t know anything. And he probably was the biggest name for a while. I guess Freddie Mercury was bigger when that came out but his was like we thought Magic’s would be. He died like a week after they said he had it didn’t he?

Maybe I’m thinking of someone else.

Yeah same with Rock Hudson and Liberace, but theyd all been sick for a while before it was publicly revealed/confirmed AIDS was the actual cause.

[Shogon]

Barkley dropping the absolute truth in saying that there is essentially no answer to the question. It is unknowable.

Props. HUGE props.

:applause:

[AlternativeAcc.]

Barkley dropping the absolute truth in saying that there is essentially no answer to the question. It is unknowable.

Props. HUGE props.

:applause:

Bro you correctly predicted bitcoin.

I know you're smart enough to have LeBron as the unquestioned best ever. I just know it :pimp:

[Shogon]

Bro you correctly predicted bitcoin.

I know you're smart enough to have LeBron as the unquestioned best ever. I just know it :pimp:

I'm not right about Bitcoin yet. Once I'm right, you will know it.

[AlternativeAcc.]

I'm not right about Bitcoin yet. Once I'm right, you will know it.

Stock market is down too right now. You were preaching to buy at like 2 or 3k iirc and it hit almost 70k at one point. Even after massive downturn it's still at 30k...

I say thats a W for you no matter what happens

[La Frescobaldi]

I do not agree whatsoever with Kenny Smith's take that Jordan was the first "social media" star. Come on now, lol.

He was the first mass media and extremely heavily marketed star, I will say that. But that was such an incredibly horrible take.

There is absolutely no telling whatsoever how Jordan would have dealt with a device that follows him around in his pocket in which he has real time access to people constantly trashing him.

Shit, the crying meme bothered him so much that he tried to get it scrubbed from the internet iirc and he even mentioned the meme at Kobe's memorial. I think he clearly cared substantially less later on.

He’s maybe thinking about the World Wide Web though which showed up exactly while mj was running the league.
There used to be tens of thousands of posts on yahoo comments on the Mike articles it was just insane in terms of what was going on in those days

[La Frescobaldi]

Freddie Mercury was like… everybody thought it was only a matter of time with that dude his orgies, and how he had long lines of guys dressed up like sailors going into his dressing room was utterly legendary and that was in the ‘70s.
He was a ticking clock and everybody knew it. Madonna had quite a few comments about lifestyle changes and it was quite a time really

[SATAN]

I do not agree whatsoever with Kenny Smith's take that Jordan was the first "social media" star. Come on now, lol.

He was the first mass media and extremely heavily marketed star, I will say that. But that was such an incredibly horrible take.

There is absolutely no telling whatsoever how Jordan would have dealt with a device that follows him around in his pocket in which he has real time access to people constantly trashing him.

Shit, the crying meme bothered him so much that he tried to get it scrubbed from the internet iirc and he even mentioned the meme at Kobe's memorial. I think he clearly cared substantially less later on.


"Tiger [Woods] played at his peak somewhere toward the end of my career. Then, what changed from that time-frame to now is social media -- Twitter and all those types of things. And that has invaded the personalities and personal time of individuals," Jordan told Cigar Aficionado. "It's to the point where some people have been able to utilize it to their financial gain and things of that nature.

"But for someone like myself -- and this is what Tiger deals with -- I don’t know if I could’ve survived in this Twitter [era], where you don’t have the privacy that you’d want and what seems to be very innocent can always be misinterpreted."

Later in the interview, Jordan explained that he values his privacy and free time, which is a big reason why he doesn't do many interviews anymore.

"I want my life to be my life," Jordan said. "I don't need any more admiration."

MJ probably would have had a complete meltdown.

[Pointguard]

I do not agree whatsoever with Kenny Smith's take that Jordan was the first "social media" star. Come on now, lol.

He was the first mass media and extremely heavily marketed star, I will say that. But that was such an incredibly horrible take.

There is absolutely no telling whatsoever how Jordan would have dealt with a device that follows him around in his pocket in which he has real time access to people constantly trashing him.

Shit, the crying meme bothered him so much that he tried to get it scrubbed from the internet iirc and he even mentioned the meme at Kobe's memorial. I think he clearly cared substantially less later on.

Yeah, that's an insane comparison. While boards like this were around on the tail end of the second three peat, they weren't of such high use that it players had to pay attention to it, at first only serious fans were on Basketball sites - and then, it seemed like, AOL started giving out free accounts to the highly dysfunctional. To me the current social media age was when Myspace, Skype and Reedit came out. Pretty much coinciding with Lebron's career. To Jordan's credit, when the Dream Team travelled it was like he had some invisible hype machine that worked like instant social media. The biggest difference is that Social Media never stops and doesn't let up.

[LAL]

Lebron is the other one.

They stole Bird's section for this quitter and loser?