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oldtimer28
05-21-2022, 06:21 PM
The new pm literally had no idea of the interest rate or the unemployment rate in the 4 weeks of his election campaign but was supposedly still voted in.
Sigh!!!
Sad thing is, I am bipartisan at heart. It's just impossible to vote left in the past 20 years due to lgbt and climate change insanity plus the enormous financial system problems suffocating small or independent businesses or people.
Left spend and waste more excessively than the right although the new right are selling out on responsible policy also.
This result is expected but still painful.
SATAN
05-21-2022, 06:29 PM
You're a low IQ 4chan dickhead.
Chick Stern
05-22-2022, 01:10 AM
anyone who denies that the climate is changing ignores a wealth of evidence to the contrary.
The reality is that economically, the US has consistently done better under Democrat leadership. The evidence is undeniable. Every major long term economic depression has occurred under Con leadership.
Shooter
05-29-2022, 06:21 PM
anyone who denies that the climate is changing ignores a wealth of evidence to the contrary.
The reality is that economically, the US has consistently done better under Democrat leadership. The evidence is undeniable. Every major long term economic depression has occurred under Con leadership.
Boom and Bust my friend. Boom and Bust.
Nanners
05-31-2022, 05:48 AM
anyone who denies that the climate is changing ignores a wealth of evidence to the contrary.
The reality is that economically, the US has consistently done better under Democrat leadership. The evidence is undeniable. Every major long term economic depression has occurred under Con leadership.
When you say people who deny climate change are ignoring evidence, does that include the banks that continue to underwrite 30 year mortgages on beachfront properties in low lying areas like Florida and Nantucket? Does it include the insurance companies that are still more than happy to insure oceanfront mansions in these low lying areas without even adding an extra "climate change" surcharge to the bill?
oldtimer28
05-31-2022, 05:48 PM
When you say people who deny climate change are ignoring evidence, does that include the banks that continue to underwrite 30 year mortgages on beachfront properties in low lying areas like Florida and Nantucket? Does it include the insurance companies that are still more than happy to insure oceanfront mansions in these low lying areas without even adding an extra "climate change" surcharge to the bill?
Yes, how does it address that if it is a global problem and China is by far the largest polluter (about 37% of top 25 countries ghg in 2020) then what does it matter what Australia and the U.S does?
P.s. Australia and U.S.A have DECREASED as a % of total ghg since 2010 but China and India are increasing.
So how do current western policies address the problem? They don't. They pander to the angry left who still aren't happy.
Even when this leftist agenda turns into communism and destabilises energy security, supply, and affordability, the left will blame the right saying the right denied the problem and was too slow to act.
Insanity!!!
Nanners
05-31-2022, 06:02 PM
Yes, how does it address that if it is a global problem and China is by far the largest polluter (about 37% of top 25 countries ghg in 2020) then what does it matter what Australia and the U.S does?
P.s. Australia and U.S.A have DECREASED as a % of total ghg since 2010 but China and India are increasing.
So how do current western policies address the problem? They don't. They pander to the angry left who still aren't happy.
Even when this leftist agenda turns into communism and destabilises energy security, supply, and affordability, the left will blame the right saying the right denied the problem and was too slow to act.
Insanity!!!
And precisely what proof is there that climate change is a global problem? I am old enough to remember all the climate doomsday predictions 20-30 years ago - "in 20-30 years the coasts will be underwater, it will be impossible to grow anything , there will be tornados and hurricanes every day, etc..." Its been 20-30 years - the sea level has barely budged, the weather in the region of the country I have lived for the vast majority of my life feels no different today than it did 20-30 years ago, and it turns out its actually easier to grow crops in a warmer climate with higher CO2 levels. Also lets not forget that the banks and insurance companies (whose existence depends on predicting things like this) dont see sea level rise impacting their business for the next 30+ years.
bladefd
05-31-2022, 07:10 PM
When you say people who deny climate change are ignoring evidence, does that include the banks that continue to underwrite 30 year mortgages on beachfront properties in low lying areas like Florida and Nantucket? Does it include the insurance companies that are still more than happy to insure oceanfront mansions in these low lying areas without even adding an extra "climate change" surcharge to the bill?
When you purchase a home, banks typically require you to purchase homeowner's insurance before they agree to the mortgage. If your house gets pulled out to sea, the insurance pays off the mortgage to the bank so the bank is guaranteed to get their money.
Homeowner's insurance is a bet between risk vs reward. Say the risk of your house getting pulled out to sea vs not. Insurance on beachfront properties typically costs quite a bit more than in-shore properties (at least in my state). They don't need to add a climate change surcharge. Just jack up the overall insurance price for beachfront property and call it a day (they already do).
Nanners
05-31-2022, 07:42 PM
When you purchase a home, banks typically require you to purchase homeowner's insurance before they agree to the mortgage. If your house gets pulled out to sea, the insurance pays off the mortgage to the bank so the bank is guaranteed to get their money.
No shit moron. Typically when you own a house in a flood prone area, you are either forced to pay obscene flood insurance premiums, or the insurance companies might refuse to cover you entirely... but right now insurance companies are NOT forcing people who buy oceanfront mansions in places like SoCal or FL to pay increased premiums because of the increased risk of flooding supposedly brought by climate change.
bladefd
05-31-2022, 07:58 PM
No shit moron. Typically when you own a house in a flood prone area, you are either forced to pay obscene flood insurance premiums, or the insurance companies might refuse to cover you entirely... but right now insurance companies are NOT forcing people who buy oceanfront mansions in places like SoCal or FL to pay increased premiums because of the increased risk of flooding supposedly brought by climate change.
Once again, homeowners insurance premiums are typically much higher annually for beachfront properties than in-land properties. Do you not comprehend that?
oldtimer28
06-01-2022, 03:03 AM
And precisely what proof is there that climate change is a global problem? I am old enough to remember all the climate doomsday predictions 20-30 years ago - "in 20-30 years the coasts will be underwater, it will be impossible to grow anything , there will be tornados and hurricanes every day, etc..." Its been 20-30 years - the sea level has barely budged, the weather in the region of the country I have lived for the vast majority of my life feels no different today than it did 20-30 years ago, and it turns out its actually easier to grow crops in a warmer climate with higher CO2 levels. Also lets not forget that the banks and insurance companies (whose existence depends on predicting things like this) dont see sea level rise impacting their business for the next 30+ years.
I know what you mean and you might be right.
Not debating the accuracy of the global problem but it seems that enough people believe it to be a problem that we must address it.
It is difficult to even properly define.
I say climate change is a global problem as I refer to climate change as the mental anxiety and obsession some have with the end of the world.
I also refer to it in my post and add this explanation now to help.
My understanding of the supposed problem is that ghg emissions and global warming are correlated. I know the scientists have not been given a fair debate and many are conflicted but nevertheless this is the general consensus.
Ipcc says causation. Even if that were true, reducing emissions in one part of the globe will not be enough as it it is total global emissions.
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