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bdonovan
05-23-2022, 12:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MdwxO17uh0

I've been talking up "Thinking Basketball" for a few years; the guy is excellent and breaking down the dynamics.

This stuff happens fast in real-time; and we often attribute progress to individual performances (mistakenly). The reality is that there is a team game going on and so much happening on and off the ball - that is causing the Mavs issues (and why GSW is much harder to guard than the Suns).

BarberSchool
05-23-2022, 12:49 PM
He’s dry, but excellent AF at breaking down what’s really happening in the league, and why.

BarberSchool
05-23-2022, 12:56 PM
And what’s really such a frustrating element of their team’s success, and their team’s chemistry:

Warriors don’t just tire defenses out with lots of good ball movement.

The Warriors also tire defenses out with downright frustratingly excessive amounts of ASSIST-TARGET-MOVEMENT.

It’s how Steph & Klay can still have huge unseen impact in almost every game they’re on the court.

bdonovan
05-23-2022, 01:16 PM
Yeah, player movement. He does touch on that in a few examples, where Curry's movement even without the ball distracts defenders. The unseen element in all this is player movement is especially disruptive if the players moving are excellent shooters to the point you have to worry about them. That's why Steph and Klay's movement creates the opportunities for others.

It's interesting seeing some teams hear about 'ball movement' and just fling the ball around the perimeter without cutting, dribble penetration etc. and they get nowhere with it. The Warriors system can be replicated but it's not simple; you need buy-in from all players to be unselfish.

tontoz
05-23-2022, 01:42 PM
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https://youtu.be/8MdwxO17uh0

ShawkFactory
05-23-2022, 01:50 PM
Yeah, player movement. He does touch on that in a few examples, where Curry's movement even without the ball distracts defenders. The unseen element in all this is player movement is especially disruptive if the players moving are excellent shooters to the point you have to worry about them. That's why Steph and Klay's movement creates the opportunities for others.

It's interesting seeing some teams hear about 'ball movement' and just fling the ball around the perimeter without cutting, dribble penetration etc. and they get nowhere with it. The Warriors system can be replicated but it's not simple; you need buy-in from all players to be unselfish.

So key. Some guys truly don't seem to like playing as much if it doesn't directly involve them.

It's almost ingrained in some to the point where they don't even know what to do.

TheGoatest
05-23-2022, 02:03 PM
Merely looking at the two team's rosters past each team's best player shows WHY the Warriors are winning.

Im Still Ballin
05-23-2022, 02:12 PM
The Warriors' motion offense is how basketball should be played. A perfect symphony of player movement, ball movement, and spacing. The way they play involves all five players on the court; the triangle offense does too. I believe the term is 'equal opportunity offense.'

It does feel like GSW's style is this generation's triangle offense. They have great talent on the roster, but their system elevates it. It makes them greater than the sum of their parts. All five players set screens and move off-the-ball. Most of them shoot, and never hold the ball more than two seconds. Just like Tex Winter's offenses.

There are several reasons why the motion offense works so well. One of them, in my opinion, is that it gets them more 'cuts' than any other team. Cuts are extremely efficient offensive possessions. They just are able to find more easy buckets because of the chaos guys like Curry bring off-the-ball.

Look at the season stats for cuts:

https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/cut/?sort=POSS_PCT&dir=1&SeasonType=Regular%20Season

Warriors are comfortably ahead of the pack. Miami is number two. Both of these teams will probably meet in the finals.

AlternativeAcc.
05-23-2022, 04:05 PM
5 all stars vs 1.

Thats how

AlternativeAcc.
05-23-2022, 04:06 PM
The Warriors' motion offense is how basketball should be played. A perfect symphony of player movement, ball movement, and spacing. The way they play involves all five players on the court; the triangle offense does too. I believe the term is 'equal opportunity offense.'

It does feel like GSW's style is this generation's triangle offense. They have great talent on the roster, but their system elevates it. It makes them greater than the sum of their parts. All five players set screens and move off-the-ball. Most of them shoot, and never hold the ball more than two seconds. Just like Tex Winter's offenses.

There are several reasons why the motion offense works so well. One of them, in my opinion, is that it gets them more 'cuts' than any other team. Cuts are extremely efficient offensive possessions. They just are able to find more easy buckets because of the chaos guys like Curry bring off-the-ball.

Look at the season stats for cuts:

https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/cut/?sort=POSS_PCT&dir=1&SeasonType=Regular%20Season

Warriors are comfortably ahead of the pack. Miami is number two. Both of these teams will probably meet in the finals.

Then why didn't they make the playoffs last year?