Lebron23
05-23-2022, 10:01 PM
I have to agree with Phil Jackson
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Even Phil Jackson has realized that his baby — the triangle — is outdated.
After years of pushing back at critics who claimed his system is difficult to learn, Jackson acknowledged on a podcast with Shaquille O'Neal that modern players are neither equipped for the triangle nor as eager to play in its slower, surveying style.
"The triangle is a different story," he said. "How do you teach a system that requires so many fundamental skills to players that really haven't been taught some of that basic stuff with footwork and passing and all those rudiment type of skills that are learned, that have been, that have changed over a few years? It's a different game."
Under coach Jeff Hornacek, the Knicks are planning to use the triangle as their halfcourt option if they can't get a quick bucket in transition. In the opening preseason game against Houston last week — a 26-point loss — New York started running more triangle sets and appeared to scrap them in the second half.
Hornacek confirmed before Monday's preseason game against the Wizards that modern players find it more difficult to learn the triangle, as opposed to when he was in the league during the '90s.
"Because they have to understand the game. It's an offense that takes time to really figure out the reads," Hornacek said. "I think when you go to college for four years, you're playing on a team in college that's running a lot of sets and you develop those reads. A lot of times, these guys are one-and-done's that end up being the great players in this league. So it takes a little bit of time. They have to have patience to go through it. They're going to make some mistakes when you have a relatively new team. But they're all willing."
The problem with teaching this group the triangle is that the roster is constructed to win now, not in a year or two when the system reads may become instinctive. As Derek Fisher once explained about the disastrous 17-win season in 2014-15, "We got bogged down learning the triangle." And as Carmelo Anthony once said about Jackson's system, "I'm tired of saying (the) word 'triangle.'"
Jackson said he hired Hornacek to teach a faster-paced offense, which is more attune to the desires of players.
"He wanted to accelerate the game and play at the pace that's kind of, present ballplayers like to play at," Jackson said. "And yet, also find a way to try and incorporate (a half-court offense). It's got to be done in a way in which it doesn't slow the game down but actually accentuates what they're trying to do."
As recently as six months ago, Jackson implied the triangle wasn't going anywhere by stating, "I came here to build a system." He then hosted a triangle seminar with multiple players on the roster. Two years ago, he responded tersely to a flippant remark from Adam Silver about not understanding the triangle.
But now Jackson appears to realize that today's NBA's players — groomed in the isolation offenses of AAU — can't pick it up so easily. Derrick Rose, for instance, said during training camp the triangle is "foreign" and "complicated."
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-president-phil-jackson-admits-triangle-offense-outdated-article-1.2825786
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Even Phil Jackson has realized that his baby — the triangle — is outdated.
After years of pushing back at critics who claimed his system is difficult to learn, Jackson acknowledged on a podcast with Shaquille O'Neal that modern players are neither equipped for the triangle nor as eager to play in its slower, surveying style.
"The triangle is a different story," he said. "How do you teach a system that requires so many fundamental skills to players that really haven't been taught some of that basic stuff with footwork and passing and all those rudiment type of skills that are learned, that have been, that have changed over a few years? It's a different game."
Under coach Jeff Hornacek, the Knicks are planning to use the triangle as their halfcourt option if they can't get a quick bucket in transition. In the opening preseason game against Houston last week — a 26-point loss — New York started running more triangle sets and appeared to scrap them in the second half.
Hornacek confirmed before Monday's preseason game against the Wizards that modern players find it more difficult to learn the triangle, as opposed to when he was in the league during the '90s.
"Because they have to understand the game. It's an offense that takes time to really figure out the reads," Hornacek said. "I think when you go to college for four years, you're playing on a team in college that's running a lot of sets and you develop those reads. A lot of times, these guys are one-and-done's that end up being the great players in this league. So it takes a little bit of time. They have to have patience to go through it. They're going to make some mistakes when you have a relatively new team. But they're all willing."
The problem with teaching this group the triangle is that the roster is constructed to win now, not in a year or two when the system reads may become instinctive. As Derek Fisher once explained about the disastrous 17-win season in 2014-15, "We got bogged down learning the triangle." And as Carmelo Anthony once said about Jackson's system, "I'm tired of saying (the) word 'triangle.'"
Jackson said he hired Hornacek to teach a faster-paced offense, which is more attune to the desires of players.
"He wanted to accelerate the game and play at the pace that's kind of, present ballplayers like to play at," Jackson said. "And yet, also find a way to try and incorporate (a half-court offense). It's got to be done in a way in which it doesn't slow the game down but actually accentuates what they're trying to do."
As recently as six months ago, Jackson implied the triangle wasn't going anywhere by stating, "I came here to build a system." He then hosted a triangle seminar with multiple players on the roster. Two years ago, he responded tersely to a flippant remark from Adam Silver about not understanding the triangle.
But now Jackson appears to realize that today's NBA's players — groomed in the isolation offenses of AAU — can't pick it up so easily. Derrick Rose, for instance, said during training camp the triangle is "foreign" and "complicated."
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-president-phil-jackson-admits-triangle-offense-outdated-article-1.2825786