Why is Andrew Wiggins getting so little respect in these playoffs.

[Ass Dan]

He is clearly the 2nd best player on a finals team (that is if we value defense) and people act like he isn't even out there. He is way down on ranking lists, and hardly ever gets mentioned in the mainstream bball press.

Shame

[warriorfan]

It takes time to shake the half decade earned rep of being a bum.

[Axe]

For casuals, him being a potent screensetter is a disappointment because curry stans don't like it when chef himself got another help for this decade.

[Spurs m8]

For casuals, him being a potent screensetter is a disappointment because curry stans don't like it when chef himself got another help for this decade.

That's right little guy, let the autism flow

[Axe]

Soggy m8 at it again with the thread derailing. :facepalm

[iamgine]

Wth is this. Wiggins is like their 5th best player in this playoff and that's being generous.

[Ass Dan]

Wth is this. Wiggins is like their 5th best player in this playoff and that's being generous.

that is a ranking based on historical rep.

[tontoz]

He has been getting plenty of credit, especially during the Dallas series where he was the primary defender on Luka.

He also started the All-Star game.

[John8204]

Because he's at that tipping point between bust, starter, and HOFer and people don't know where to go with him.

[StrongLurk]

Warriors don't have a clear number 2 which is interesting. Wiggins, Klay, Poole, and Draymond have all dominated games and also had bad games. I wouldn't put Wiggins as the "clear number 2" at all.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Because he's at that tipping point between bust, starter, and HOFer and people don't know where to go with him.

No HoF there. Did not become the player you expect with the #1 pick and not worth his contract. He's a starter though.

[hold this L]

Wth is this. Wiggins is like their 5th best player in this playoff and that's being generous.
He's easily the 2nd best player this PS. Like WF said, guy has half a decade rep of being known as a bum. Perception over reality type of scenario. If he balls out this finals, he's going to get his flowers (and then hopefully a nice 20m/year discount 1 year from now to stay with the Warriors).

[John8204]

No HoF there. Did not become the player you expect with the #1 pick and not worth his contract. He's a starter though.

He's only 27 he's half way there when it comes to points (20K), he's got his All-Star spot, a possible title to go with #1 Pick/ROTY who knows Warriors win Curry gets double teamed and Wiggins is the guy to put up the numbers he might also have FMVP.

[LeCola]

He guarded Morant and Doncic in this playoff run.

Now, he will probably guard Tatum.

[Shogon]

Did not become the player you expect with the #1 pick.

I don't agree with this, specifically. He was overhyped coming out of high school on this board, but he is probably a top 5 player from his draft class.

There have been multiple draft years where Wiggins would have been the best player or top 2 player in the class.

#1 picks are not a sure thing and there are plenty of #1 picks that Wiggins has been better than.

[LeGoat4Life]

For casuals, him being a potent screensetter is a disappointment because curry stans don't like it when chef himself got another help for this decade.

Another dumb take by Axe lolol

Wiggins another player that Chef Dingo help improve

Curry is the true floor general, making everyone better

[Real Men Wear Green]

He's only 27 he's half way there when it comes to points (20K), he's got his All-Star spot, a possible title to go with #1 Pick/ROTY who knows Warriors win Curry gets double teamed and Wiggins is the guy to put up the numbers he might also have FMVP.
A Hall of Fame career based on individual greatness normally has a lot of ASG berths. Wiggins may not even have 3 when his career is over. And his underwhelming career from the #1 pick expectations works as a negative against him.
I don't agree with this, specifically. He was overhyped coming out of high school on this board, but he is probably a top 5 player from his draft class.

There have been multiple draft years where Wiggins would have been the best player or top 2 player in the class.

#1 picks are not a sure thing and there are plenty of #1 picks that Wiggins has been better than.
Has any franchise ever drafted a guy #1 expecting a really good 3 and D roleplayer? The top pick is supposed to be a franchise changing franchise player. No matter how many don't reach that level that will always be what the fans and teams that draft them are expecting. If you were a GM would you draft a guy #1 that you thought at his peak would be a good defender that averaged 17 points? And ask yourself, "where does Wiggins rank among NBA small forwards?" The answer to that question would take you some time to figure out because he's not elite. Not being a great player he would need a lot of championships to get into the Hall. He might get some but how much can be expected from the Warriors when their top 3 players are over 30?

[Nb1]

You can even argue Warriors don't even have a clear number 1 other then when they had Durant. Most of the times Curry is their main player during the regular season, but many times Klay is THE guy they need when the game is close, sometimes Dray, sometimes this season Poole, they had Iggy, it changes alot. They're a bit like the Spurs were back then, great team, lots of great players who fit together but no one really stands out as the best. I mean, Klay can put 60 while sleeping in 3 quarters and has the record for most 3's in a game in history.

Who's second option can say this? No one else's.

[tontoz]

You can even argue Warriors don't even have a clear number 1 other then when they had Durant. Most of the times Curry is their main player during the regular season, but many times Klay is THE guy they need when the game is close, sometimes Dray, sometimes this season Poole, they had Iggy, it changes alot. They're a bit like the Spurs were back then, great team, lots of great players who fit together but no one really stands out as the best. I mean, Klay can put 60 while sleeping in 3 quarters and has the record for most 3's in a game in history.

Who's second option can say this? No one else's.



In the WCF Curry led them in scoring (by 4 ppg), assists and was 3rd in rebounding. He was the clear number 1 option as he has been the entire playoffs.

[tpols]

A Hall of Fame career based on individual greatness normally has a lot of ASG berths. Wiggins may not even have 3 when his career is over. And his underwhelming career from the #1 pick expectations works as a negative against him.
Has any franchise ever drafted a guy #1 expecting a really good 3 and D roleplayer? The top pick is supposed to be a franchise changing franchise player. No matter how many don't reach that level that will always be what the fans and teams that draft them are expecting. If you were a GM would you draft a guy #1 that you thought at his peak would be a good defender that averaged 17 points? And ask yourself, "where does Wiggins rank among NBA small forwards?" The answer to that question would take you some time to figure out because he's not elite. Not being a great player he would need a lot of championships to get into the Hall. He might get some but how much can be expected from the Warriors when their top 3 players are over 30?

Keep running your mouth bro.


https://youtu.be/M3OaeuQaIFM

[tpols]

Since Wiggins was drafted these are the #1 picks...

KAT
Ben Simmons
Markelle Fultz
Deandre Ayton
Zion Williamson
Anthony Edwards
Cade Cunningham

And the number 1 pick before Wiggins was drafted?

Anthony Bennett.



So no.... Number 1 picks are never a sure thing. And Wiggins was an All Star STARTER this year. So he's not just a 3nD role player. Gotta defend wiggins here. Some of y'all are clowning. Including you RealMenWearPink. Don't half step, fool.

[ShawkFactory]

Since Wiggins was drafted these are the #1 picks...

KAT
Ben Simmons
Markelle Fultz
Deandre Ayton
Zion Williamson
Anthony Edwards
Cade Cunningham

And the number 1 pick before Wiggins was drafted?

Anthony Bennett.



So no.... Number 1 picks are never a sure thing. And Wiggins was an All Star STARTER this year. So he's not just a 3nD role player. Gotta defend wiggins here. Some of y'all are clowning. Including you RealMenWearPink. Don't half step, fool.

Those things can occur at the same time. All of the stars aligned for him to start in the all star game this year but his actual on-court performance is closer to a really good role player than a star.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Keep running your mouth bro.
ihate when you call me bro.... it indicates a familiarity that just isn't there.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Since Wiggins was drafted these are the #1 picks...

KAT
Ben Simmons
Markelle Fultz
Deandre Ayton
Zion Williamson
Anthony Edwards
Cade Cunningham

And the number 1 pick before Wiggins was drafted?

Anthony Bennett.



So no.... Number 1 picks are never a sure thing. And Wiggins was an All Star STARTER this year. So he's not just a 3nD role player. Gotta defend wiggins here. Some of y'all are clowning. Including you RealMenWearPink. Don't half step, fool.

You always base your arguments on your own lack of understanding. No one is saying that top picks are always great players. What is being said that you can't seem to understand is that teams that draft top picks always expect him to be a great player. Again: who has ever drafted a guy #1 thinking he was the next Eddie Jones? Who would give the max to Eddie Jones?

[1987_Lakers]

I saw people giving him props for his performance vs the Mavs, but it's not like he's lighting the world on fire.

[tpols]

Those things can occur at the same time. All of the stars aligned for him to start in the all star game this year but his actual on-court performance is closer to a really good role player than a star.

No they cannot. Name me an All Star starter that was a role player. Go ahead my friend.

[ShawkFactory]

No they cannot. Name me an All Star starter that was a role player. Go ahead my friend.

I think you need to reread what I said. Just for your own convenience I'll repost here:


but his actual on-court performance is closer to a really good role player than a star.

To argue otherwise is strange. He's more in the middle than anything but he isn't quite a star level player. He's the 4th best player on his team.

[PeroAntic]

It takes time to shake the half decade earned rep of being a bum.

/thread

[Shooter]

That's right little guy, let the autism flow

Um. Didn't Netflix literally make a show in Australia about people on the spectrum (i.e. you)?

Spectrum m8 :lol

https://i.postimg.cc/j25Q53VK/Spectrum-m8.jpg

[Ass Dan]

Tatum was 3/17 and though he did have a lot of assists, that was because Wiggins made him give up the ball. Tatum is an A-1 level elite talent so he won't be shut down, but you cannot say that Wiggins hasn't been an A-1 level elite defensive player these playoffs and so far this Finals.

Wiggins was 8/15 for 20 points with 5 rbs and 3 blocks. Understand that they aren't running plays for him so when he does get the ball, its late in the clock and he is forced to shoot or shit broke down and he is forced to create.

His ability and athleticism makes him unique. Imagine the Dallas series with Klay on Luka. Imagine last game with Tatum running wild (on top of the 21/41 on threes by the rest of the team).

Wiggins is super glue for this team. They fracture without him

[warriorfan]

Tatum was 3/17 and though he did have a lot of assists, that was because Wiggins made him give up the ball. Tatum is an A-1 level elite talent so he won't be shut down, but you cannot say that Wiggins hasn't been an A-1 level elite defensive player these playoffs and so far this Finals.

Wiggins was 8/15 for 20 points with 5 rbs and 3 blocks. Understand that they aren't running plays for him so when he does get the ball, its late in the clock and he is forced to shoot or shit broke down and he is forced to create.

His ability and athleticism makes him unique. Imagine the Dallas series with Klay on Luka. Imagine last game with Tatum running wild (on top of the 21/41 on threes by the rest of the team).

Wiggins is super glue for this team. They fracture without him

You weird af bro