Warriors are shell shocked

[AirBonner]

They literally gave no credit to the Celtics in the presser :oldlol:
Saying shit like they hit 21 3’s blah blah which has happened 4 times in the playoffs already (no fluke).

[Full Court]

They should be. They got straight up outclassed and outplayed.

[ImKobe]

They literally gave no credit to the Celtics in the presser :oldlol:
Saying shit like they hit 21 3’s blah blah which has happened 4 times in the playoffs already (no fluke).

20 threes might not be a complete fluke overall if it's Tatum, Brown & Smart (their best 3 shooters) making the majority of those shots.

Derrick White and Al Horford are 30-33% 3PT shooters this season. They combined for 11/16 3PT. Derrick White only had 1 game where he made more than 2 threes before the Finals in these POs, and he hasn't made 5 threes in a game for over a calendar year. Al Horford had a career-high from 3. That's like if Dray and Wiggins made 5+ threes each. It's a fluke.

[AirBonner]

20 threes might not be a complete fluke overall if it's Tatum, Brown & Smart (their best 3 shooters) making the majority of those shots.

Derrick White and Al Horford are 30-33% 3PT shooters this season. They combined for 11/16 3PT. Derrick White only had 1 game where he made more than 2 threes before the Finals in these POs, and he hasn't made 5 threes in a game for over a calendar year. Al Horford had a career-high from 3. That's like if Dray and Wiggins made 5+ threes each. It's a fluke.

Tatum going 3-17 is a fluke

[3ba11]

20 threes might not be a complete fluke overall if it's Tatum, Brown & Smart (their best 3 shooters) making the majority of those shots.

Derrick White and Al Horford are 30-33% 3PT shooters this season. They combined for 11/16 3PT. Derrick White only had 1 game where he made more than 2 threes before the Finals in these POs, and he hasn't made 5 threes in a game for over a calendar year. Al Horford had a career-high from 3. That's like if Dray and Wiggins made 5+ threes each. It's a fluke.


Here's what worries me..

At some point late in the 3rd quarter, the Celtics looked at each other and flipped that switch - the same switch they learned to flip against the Nets, Bucks and Heat - they looked at each other like "okay, let's step it up like we've been doing" and it was a tsunami for the Warriors - they had no clue what hit them.. it was more than enough and overkill against the Warriors (who had 16 points in 4th)..

The fact that Horford led the way or Brown is inconsequential except to demonstrate the well-oiled, compensating MACHINE they are as a team

[ImKobe]

Here's what worries me..

At some point late in the 3rd quarter, the Celtics looked at each other and flipped that switch - the same switch they learned to flip against the Nets, Bucks and Heat - they looked at each other like "okay, let's step it up like we've been doing" and it was a tsunami for the Warriors - they had no clue what hit them.. it was more than enough and overkill against the Warriors (who had 16 points in 4th)..

The fact that Horford led the way or Brown is inconsequential except to demonstrate the well-oiled, compensating MACHINE they are as a team

They won because they adjusted on D and stopped playing drop coverage against Steph. They switched almost twice as much on D in the 2nd half and didn't give Steph any space to get a clean shot off, but the main reason they won was their 3PT shooting and Kerr's dumb decision to bring in Iguodala like they were already in garbage time.


Tatum going 3-17 is a fluke

Tatum's had plenty of terrible scoring games in the RS and Playoffs this year. He's had 5 games of shooting 33% or worse in these POs. The role players (Celtics outside of Tatum, Brown & Smart) combining for 54 pts on 28 threes is a bigger outlier.

[red1]

they're going to come back and win game 2.

they nearly won game 1 even though they went cold with curry on the bench for like 5 minutes.

[3ba11]

They won because they adjusted on D and stopped playing drop coverage against Steph. They switched almost twice as much on D in the 2nd half and didn't give Steph any space to get a clean shot off, but the main reason they won was their 3PT shooting and Kerr's dumb decision to bring in Iguodala like they were already in garbage time.



Tatum's had plenty of terrible scoring games in the RS and Playoffs this year. He's had 5 games of shooting 33% or worse in these POs. The role players (Celtics outside of Tatum, Brown & Smart) combining for 54 pts on 28 threes is a bigger outlier.


Is Brown the 3rd best player in this series?... It seems like he easily is.. He's at the level that Wiggins, Klay and Poole are supposed to be at.

[tontoz]

The C's made 9 3s in the 4th quarter. That would leave anyone shell shocked.

[ImKobe]

Is Brown the 3rd best player in this series?... It seems like he easily is.. He's at the level that Wiggins, Klay and Poole are supposed to be at.

Brown is as good as Tatum when he can get out of his own way with those dumb TOs. Their numbers are almost even in these Playoffs, both raw & advanced. I'd give him decent odds to be a FMVP in this series if Boston won it, he's that good, though Boston has 4 guys who can win that award.

[ShawkFactory]

Brown is as good as Tatum when he can get out of his own way with those dumb TOs. Their numbers are almost even in these Playoffs, both raw & advanced. I'd give him decent odds to be a FMVP in this series if Boston won it, he's that good, though Boston has 4 guys who can win that award.

He's not. As a scorer and defender they are on a similar level but when Brown has a bad shooting game he's generally a negative while Tatum finds a way to impact the game still.

[ImKobe]

He's not. As a scorer and defender they are on a similar level but when Brown has a bad shooting game he's generally a negative while Tatum finds a way to impact the game still.

How is he not when you just told me that they're on a similar level on both ends? He just had a bad shooting game but still came up big in the 4th and made plays for others.

It's closer than Kawhi vs Paul George in the Clippers. They're both on Paul George's level.

[ShawkFactory]

How is he not when you just told me that they're on a similar level on both ends? He just had a bad shooting game but still came up big in the 4th and made plays for others.

It's closer than Kawhi vs Paul George in the Clippers. They're both on Paul George's level.

It didn't say both ends, I said scoring. Which is even being generous Tatum is clearly a better scorer. He's the one who is the primary concern of the defense, not Brown. And he still scores more but I'll digress.

Even IF they were on the same level with those two things, Tatum is loads better as a playmaker and decision-maker in general. His size and length impact the game at a higher level. He's instinctually more sound.

[TheGoatest]

Historically, finals game 1 losses aren't a big deal, but the big deal here isn't that the Warriors lost, but how they lost: Blowing a 15 point lead that they had late in 3rd quarter, and with the Celtics' best player struggling.
If they couldn't win on a night where Tatum and Brown shot 13 out of 40 combined, and on top of that lose in a blowout, then that is truly something to worry about.

[1987_Lakers]

It was a really weird game, they seemed to dominate the first 3 quarters and were in complete control then in a blink of an eye it was over.

[AirBonner]

It was a really weird game, they seemed to dominate the first 3 quarters and were in complete control then in a blink of an eye it was over.

How did the warriors dominate the first 3 quarters when they were down at the half? Did you watch the game?

[1987_Lakers]

How did the warriors dominate the first 3 quarters when they were down at the half? Did you watch the game?

Warriors had the lead most of the first half, there was a stretch where Boston took the lead right before half, but the Warriors quickly regained it in the 3rd.

[Full Court]

Warriors had the lead most of the first half, there was a stretch where Boston took the lead right before half, but the Warriors quickly regained it in the 3rd.

You can hardly call it dominating though. The only time it looked like dominance was for a very brief period in the third where the Warriors went up by 15 or 16. That didn't last long at all.

[8Ball]

Warriors were up 12 points in the 4th?

It wasn't like they got annihilated from the tip off. They had 1 bad quarter, really bad quarter. I still see this series going 7.

[Axe]

They're just missing kd all of a sudden.