Anyone else feel like Brown is Tatum's equal?

[Carbine]

If the Celtics win the title I think 99 percent of people would credit this as "Tatum's ring"

I think that's a major major discredit to Brown. He is just as important to me.

[Spuddywebby]

His game is more fluid. He’s more athletic, you can make a case he is more skilled than Tatum but Tatum is a better player right now. Tatum is more fundamental. He’s more in line with the classic triple threat players, he likes working in the midrange either facing the basket or with his back to it and he can also shoot from distance. He is a better passer than Brown.

[Akeem34TheDream]

I'll think of it as Horford's ring.

[warriorfan]

If the Celtics win the title I think 99 percent of people would credit this as "Tatum's ring"

I think that's a major major discredit to Brown. He is just as important to me.

I’ve always been big on brown. Tatum is better most of the times but it’s way closer than people think. Tatum’s 3 point shot can not be dropping and he completely disappears which I don’t see with brown. Whenever brown goes off the Celtics roll hard. He’s underrated.

[RRR3]

He’s about equal as a scorer but that’s it.

[tpols]

Yea Brown has a smooth midrange jumper on top of his 3pt shot. And he's more explosive attacking the rim. Tatum is just taller and the household name.

[Phoenix]

It's a 1A and 1C situation.

[ShawkFactory]

Tatum has more all around game. If both have off-shooting nights he’ll be the one who impacts the game more.

And when they’re on the court at the same time Tatum is the one who draws the doubles.

[Jasper]

If the Celtics win the title I think 99 percent of people would credit this as "Tatum's ring"

I think that's a major major discredit to Brown. He is just as important to me.

Brown IMO is the better player.

[PeroAntic]

Tatum's game is more aesthetic so thats why he is considered better.

[ZionDunks]

Tatum is a lot better. Jaylen can’t hit FTs and gets the yips ball handling. Doesn’t have the same playmaking ability

[DMAVS41]

No...Brown legit can't dribble. He's really good, but that is a huge weakness that would show even more if you asked him to do more.

Brown is in a perfect situation...give the Celtics a lot of credit for building this team and remaining patient...great drafting as well.

Also, loads of talent...Horford is obviously older...although he's playing great...I think they have 4 top 6 picks in the starting lineup. Pretty crazy.

As a Mavs fan...kind of depressing...we are playing mostly undrafted players and non lottery pick players.

[dbugz]

No...Brown legit can't dribble. He's really good, but that is a huge weakness that would show even more if you asked him to do more.

Brown is in a perfect situation...give the Celtics a lot of credit for building this team and remaining patient...great drafting as well.

Also, loads of talent...Horford is obviously older...although he's playing great...I think they have 4 top 6 picks in the starting lineup. Pretty crazy.

As a Mavs fan...kind of depressing...we are playing mostly undrafted players and non lottery pick players.

"Legit" can't dribble? wtf?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FVXSmlhFcA&ab_channel=NBA

dude's playing 1 sometimes :oldlol:

Yes, during his 1st 3 season but right now, he really improves a lot and I'm actually impressed. What's his weakness is still his shot selections.

Right now they're at par on what they can give on offense but JT is better defensively and has a higher ceiling.

[DMAVS41]

"Legit" can't dribble? wtf?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FVXSmlhFcA&ab_channel=NBA

dude's playing 1 sometimes :oldlol:

Yes, during his 1st 3 season but right now, he really improves a lot and I'm actually impressed. What's his weakness is still his shot selections.

Right now they're at par on what they can give on offense but JT is better defensively and has a higher ceiling.

Obviously I don't mean he "can't dribble"...he's an NBA player.

His handle, however, is quite weak and it would be a bigger weakness if he was asked to do more.

Have you really not noticed him fumbling the ball consistently all playoffs? I think if he was asked to create more he'd be doing like 5 or 6 turnovers per game the way he's playing...now, in fairness...Tatum struggles with this as well, but I don't think Brown could do what Tatum does.

[dbugz]

Obviously I don't mean he "can't dribble"...he's an NBA player.

His handle, however, is quite weak and it would be a bigger weakness if he was asked to do more.

Have you really not noticed him fumbling the ball consistently all playoffs? I think if he was asked to create more he'd be doing like 5 or 6 turnovers per game the way he's playing...now, in fairness...Tatum struggles with this as well, but I don't think Brown could do what Tatum does.

Pinpointing his dribble as a "weakness" is just nitpicking. I actually made a thread here about him not having a good handles about like 3 years ago, trust me JB's dribbling has improved a lot.

And nope, JT's problem is his passing. Dude's will occasionally make dumb lazy passes out of nowhere especially when he's frustrated.

[PeroAntic]

He has great ball handling. The problem is he does not have a unique style like Tatum. Hes like a generic player. Does everything by the book but hardly with any style.

[DMAVS41]

Pinpointing his dribble as a "weakness" is just nitpicking. I actually made a thread here about him not having a good handles about like 3 years ago, trust me JB's dribbling has improved a lot.

And nope, JT's problem is his passing. Dude's will occasionally make dumb lazy passes out of nowhere especially when he's frustrated.

Well, in almost every playoff game I've watched this year...he's been shaky with his handle on drives and has a terrible turnover to assist ratio.

[tpols]

No...Brown legit can't dribble. He's really good, but that is a huge weakness that would show even more if you asked him to do more.

Brown is in a perfect situation...give the Celtics a lot of credit for building this team and remaining patient...great drafting as well.

Also, loads of talent...Horford is obviously older...although he's playing great...I think they have 4 top 6 picks in the starting lineup. Pretty crazy.

As a Mavs fan...kind of depressing...we are playing mostly undrafted players and non lottery pick players.

Brown was breaking the dubs down off the dribble all game long. Can't dribble? He's not fancy but his entire game is based off on ball dribbling ability setting up his shot and drive. He's not Kyle korver. Offensively he's a totally on the ball player.

[Wally450]

Well, in almost every playoff game I've watched this year...he's been shaky with his handle on drives and has a terrible turnover to assist ratio.

Brown doesn’t have play making abilities. For a guy that handles the ball as much as him, his assist numbers are pretty low. Compared to a guy like Tatum who’s passing vision and playmaking ability has taken a major jump since the all star break. Jaylen doesn’t really need to worry about high assist numbers, but he does sometimes go a bit too fast with the ball and ends up with a silly turnover. Happened far too many times these playoffs.

[fsvr54]

Brown has handles but they're not elite. When drives into traffic he gets stripped A LOT, more than average.

[PP34Deuce]

Jaylen is the better open court player. He's a play finisher that excels in midrange and penetration.

Tatum is more fundamentally sound and better but the celtics are dangerous when jaylen is attacking

[ShawkFactory]

Brown was breaking the dubs down off the dribble all game long. Can't dribble? He's not fancy but his entire game is based off on ball dribbling ability setting up his shot and drive. He's not Kyle korver. Offensively he's a totally on the ball player.

You don’t watch enough basketball.

Jaylen is the definition of hot and cold handles.

[DMAVS41]

If he shoots like this...maybe better. :applause:

[KNOW1EDGE]

Brown is a great player in his own right. I think Tatum is better because of his size and ability to create his own shot from anywhere on the floor.

[Kawhi Not?]

Nah absolutely not.

[plowking]

Brown was breaking the dubs down off the dribble all game long. Can't dribble? He's not fancy but his entire game is based off on ball dribbling ability setting up his shot and drive. He's not Kyle korver. Offensively he's a totally on the ball player.

He has a great first step, but if he has a live dribble and is forced to reset, he legitimately looks like he is going to lose the ball whenever he is pressed. He doesn't have a tight handle.

[ShawkFactory]

Something I’ve noticed about Brown is that he sometimes plays above his means. Different style of player but it’s a little Westbrooky. Kind of a bad decision maker.

[dbugz]

Something I’ve noticed about Brown is that he sometimes plays above his means. Different style of player but it’s a little Westbrooky. Kind of a bad decision maker.

his shot selections needs a big improvement

[Hoopexpert]

Nah. Tatum is better. Got a better jumper.

[Carbine]

Tatum playoffs 25/10/5 on 56TS

Brown 25/6/3 on 61 TS

Both elite defenders.

[SATAN]

Tatum is the better player but Brown has more grit despite not being as technically skilled. They compliment each other better than I thought they would.

[ImKobe]

Tatum is the better player but Brown has more grit despite not being as technically skilled. They compliment each other better than I thought they would.

Tatum should be better by a significant margin but he's just not a consistent enough jump shooter. He's clearly the better all-around player but with his horrible shooting in these POs you could argue that Derrick White has been their best player with Brown and Tatum tied for #2. Derrick White leads them in WS, BPM & VORP.

Tatum is barely a 20 PER player in both RS & Playoffs. I remember when the Boston media went all in on that PER stat and used it to trash Kobe's impact despite him winning & putting up 2nd 3-Peat Jordan numbers. Now that Tatum is barely all-star level as far as PER goes they've forgotten that the stat exists lol & still try to argue him as an MVP-level player.

[FKAri]

No. But Tatum's game is more jumpshot reliant which means on off nights, Brown can look better.

[gengiskhan]

Tatum is the better player but Brown has more grit despite not being as technically skilled. They compliment each other better than I thought they would.

I havent seen much of tatum but his finishing ability around the rim is quiet average for 6'8" superstar.

He seem to rush his shots on board. lay ups and bank shots. misses a lot of them for no reason.

Brown on the other hand finishes around the rim. These little thing matters in close game.

not every game you'll have Holiday stealing the ball and hitting all FTs.

Tatum must finish around the rim. cant depend on 3 pointers.

[Jasper]

If the Celtics win the title I think 99 percent of people would credit this as "Tatum's ring"

I think that's a major major discredit to Brown. He is just as important to me.

brown is the core of the team,, they always look for him for an important bucket.
Ttum is a hero player.

[iamgine]

Lol absolutely not. Tatum is a top 10ish player. Brown is a top 50ish player. It's like comparing Jalen Brunson to Brandon Ingram.

[Axe]

I havent seen much of tatum but his finishing ability around the rim is quiet average for 6'8" superstar.

He seem to rush his shots on board. lay ups and bank shots. misses a lot of them for no reason.

Brown on the other hand finishes around the rim. These little thing matters in close game.

not every game you'll have Holiday stealing the ball and hitting all FTs.

Tatum must finish around the rim. cant depend on 3 pointers.
The misses he's been having are a result of him worshipping kobe too much.