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3ba11
06-04-2022, 10:06 PM
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15' Smith ECF....... 18/8/2 on 67 TS.. 1.1 tov.. #4 SRS opponent

97' Pippen ECF...... 17/5/3 on 53 TS.. 3.0 tov.. #4 SRS opponent
98' Pippen ECF...... 17/8/5 on 46 TS.. 3.0 tov.. #4 SRS opponent


I thought 2015 was a "carry-job" over a mighty Al Horford-led juggernaut????

Not compared to Jordan it wasn't... :confusedshrug:

1-star teams were enough to win the 00's East, so Lebron's super-teams were overkill - his runs in 07' and 15' were standard and merely offset his failures with homecourt in 09' and 10'.

1987_Lakers
06-04-2022, 10:11 PM
Lets compare to what OP said about Curry in May of 2021 to November of 2021.


He relies on today's high-screen, drive-and-kick strategy.

This strategy allows 3-point shooters to stand and wait for kickouts, thus adding to the attempts they get off-the-dribble or off screens - if Curry had to run off screens with a defender stuck to him like Reggie Miller had to do, he would barely get off 5 theees a game..

Curry actually took 5 threes a game for 3 straight years and was a 19 ppg scorer, but then the league strategy became the aforementioned 3-point contest, which allowed Curry's production to reach elite levels.

Ultimately, he's just a 3-point shooter, so he's 1-dimensional. Most overrated player in history

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Curry is a top 5 player ever

3ba11
06-04-2022, 10:15 PM
Lets compare to what OP said about Curry in May of 2021 to November of 2021.



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You're coming on here to lie? Are you Amber Heard?

The first quote was from May of 2021 and Curry proved me wrong by November, where I put him in my top 10 all-time:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499177-My-top-10-(supercedes-all-previous-rankings-for-reference-purposes-going-forward)

8Ball
06-04-2022, 10:19 PM
Lets compare to what OP said about Curry in May of 2021 to November of 2021.


He relies on today's high-screen, drive-and-kick strategy.

This strategy allows 3-point shooters to stand and wait for kickouts, thus adding to the attempts they get off-the-dribble or off screens - if Curry had to run off screens with a defender stuck to him like Reggie Miller had to do, he would barely get off 5 theees a game..

Curry actually took 5 threes a game for 3 straight years and was a 19 ppg scorer, but then the league strategy became the aforementioned 3-point contest, which allowed Curry's production to reach elite levels.

Ultimately, he's just a 3-point shooter, so he's 1-dimensional.

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2. Kobe
3. Bird
4. Russell
5. Curry

Spurs m8
06-04-2022, 10:26 PM
LeExposure continues

3ba11
06-04-2022, 10:31 PM
Lets compare to what OP said about Curry in May of 2021 to November of 2021.



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I did the same thing with Jordan in 96'

I was in a fantasy league with my buddies and HATED jordan - I was reveling off his failure in the 95' Playoffs..... then 96' happened and I ate the most crow that anyone ever has.. It was the goat season - I had to SUBMIT to the goat... And the rest is history.

Curry did the same thing this year - I thought he was a system guy that couldn't win with different rosters or resurrect the Warriors' dynasty.. I was dead wrong, just like Jordan...

I've come to realize that Curry actually fulfilles my top 10 criteria of knowing how to win, aka chemistry/brand of ball/organic... And also defeating maximum defensive attention, aka carry scoring load for playoffs and Finals of title run..

Knowing how to win and being able to defeat maximum defensive attention should be the primary factors in evaluating the greats and Curry is top 10 in these areas (I do however anticipate bumping him down to around 9 or 10 when he loses these Finals)

Ultimately, true greats like MJ and Curry prove you wrong.. Otoh, frauds like Lebron never do and infact keep proving you right (see the OP)

1987_Lakers
06-04-2022, 10:36 PM
Ultimately, true greats like MJ and Curry prove you wrong.. Otoh, frauds like Lebron never do

Apparently, guys like Paul George prove you wrong too.


PG13 is a lightweight.. gets bumped off his spot easy.. low impact guy.. Clips aren't


George led for the series and won Game 5 on the road when no one thought they could win

PG is an all-time great and legend


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?470932-PG13-is-a-lightweight-gets-bumped-off-his-spot-easy-low-impact-guy-Clips-aren-t

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494702-If-Paul-George-wins-tonight-he-s-a-legendary-all-time-great-and-gt-Pippen&p=14361854&viewfull=1#post14361854

Shooter
06-04-2022, 10:51 PM
Lets compare to what OP said about Curry in May of 2021 to November of 2021.



He relies on today's high-screen, drive-and-kick strategy.

This strategy allows 3-point shooters to stand and wait for kickouts, thus adding to the attempts they get off-the-dribble or off screens - if Curry had to run off screens with a defender stuck to him like Reggie Miller had to do, he would barely get off 5 theees a game..

Curry actually took 5 threes a game for 3 straight years and was a 19 ppg scorer, but then the league strategy became the aforementioned 3-point contest, which allowed Curry's production to reach elite levels.

Ultimately, he's just a 3-point shooter, so he's 1-dimensional. Most overrated player in history



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Curry is a top 5 player ever

3ba11
06-04-2022, 11:02 PM
Apparently, guys like Paul George prove you wrong too.






http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?470932-PG13-is-a-lightweight-gets-bumped-off-his-spot-easy-low-impact-guy-Clips-aren-t

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494702-If-Paul-George-wins-tonight-he-s-a-legendary-all-time-great-and-gt-Pippen&p=14361854&viewfull=1#post14361854


The 2nd thread was a sarcastic use of the same terms that everyone uses on Pippen (all-time great)

A way of showing how overrated Pippen is... Smart people got it

tpols
06-04-2022, 11:05 PM
Apparently, guys like Paul George prove you wrong too.






http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?470932-PG13-is-a-lightweight-gets-bumped-off-his-spot-easy-low-impact-guy-Clips-aren-t

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494702-If-Paul-George-wins-tonight-he-s-a-legendary-all-time-great-and-gt-Pippen&p=14361854&viewfull=1#post14361854

Its creepy how you save guys posts here.

1987_Lakers
06-04-2022, 11:12 PM
Its creepy how you save guys posts here.

It's not hard to google stuff. Plus, another poster pointed out his Paul George flip flop in another thread.

1987_Lakers
06-04-2022, 11:16 PM
The 2nd thread was a sarcastic use of the same terms that everyone uses on Pippen (all-time great)

A way of showing how overrated Pippen is... Smart people got it

Stop lying Amber Heard.

8Ball
06-05-2022, 08:46 AM
Apparently, guys like Paul George prove you wrong too.






http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?470932-PG13-is-a-lightweight-gets-bumped-off-his-spot-easy-low-impact-guy-Clips-aren-t

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494702-If-Paul-George-wins-tonight-he-s-a-legendary-all-time-great-and-gt-Pippen&p=14361854&viewfull=1#post14361854

Rat poisoned him.

Jesus.

8Ball
06-05-2022, 08:47 AM
The 2nd thread was a sarcastic use of the same terms that everyone uses on Pippen (all-time great)

A way of showing how overrated Pippen is... Smart people got it

You're coming on here to lie? Are you Amber Heard?

Shooter
06-05-2022, 08:51 AM
Apparently, guys like Paul George prove you wrong too.






http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?470932-PG13-is-a-lightweight-gets-bumped-off-his-spot-easy-low-impact-guy-Clips-aren-t

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494702-If-Paul-George-wins-tonight-he-s-a-legendary-all-time-great-and-gt-Pippen&p=14361854&viewfull=1#post14361854

Poisoned 3rat instantly :lol

https://rhodes2safety.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/rat-poison.jpg

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0027/1613/9581/files/dead-rat-4428127_640_c5278e99-9e3b-4c4c-b536-fc28712200d6.jpg?v=1629840544

Axe
06-05-2022, 08:55 AM
You're coming on here to lie? Are you Amber Heard?
:roll:

3ba11
06-06-2022, 11:53 PM
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Thread Cliffs


JR Smith played better in the 15' ECF then at least 4 ECF of Pippen (89', 90', 97', 98')

Jordan won 6 carry-job rings with no offensive help