What new gun laws will prevent mass shootings?

[Hey Yo]

???

[Patrick Chewing]

Raising the age limit to 21 to purchase a weapon. And not just a weapon, but a weapon of war. Because it is SCIENTIFIC PROOF that when the human brain turns 21 years of age, the human that belongs to that brain enters another realm of consciousness where they are shown the light and magic of the world and where only positive and happy thoughts swarm in to take control of that persons psyche and demeanor for the rest of their lives. After this, they are incapable of inflicting human harm whether verbally or physically. They become these sentient angelic beings of light with glowing radiance. Truly a sight to see.

[rawimpact]

Raising the age limit to 21 to purchase a weapon. And not just a weapon, but a weapon of war. Because it is SCIENTIFIC PROOF that when the human brain turns 21 years of age, the human that belongs to that brain enters another realm of consciousness where they are shown the light and magic of the world and where only positive and happy thoughts swarm in to take control of that persons psyche and demeanor for the rest of their lives. After this, they are incapable of inflicting human harm whether verbally or physically. They become these sentient angelic beings of light with glowing radiance. Truly a sight to see.

No way man

gun ownership should be for 95+ year olds. How many 95 year olds do you know that commit these heinous crimes?

[Jasper]

Raising the age limit to 21 to purchase a weapon. And not just a weapon, but a weapon of war. Because it is SCIENTIFIC PROOF that when the human brain turns 21 years of age, the human that belongs to that brain enters another realm of consciousness where they are shown the light and magic of the world and where only positive and happy thoughts swarm in to take control of that persons psyche and demeanor for the rest of their lives. After this, they are incapable of inflicting human harm whether verbally or physically. They become these sentient angelic beings of light with glowing radiance. Truly a sight to see.

my god you must be on drugs.

Quite frankly I blame the gun manufactures. They have lost millions of dollars because after the baby bombers the next generations did not take up
hunting but video games.
The gun companies had to fill the bottom line , and so they created a niche called target shooting with an AK 15.
I am a hunter , and had a discussion on another forum about the use of the weapon , and a guy told me that is what he hunts with.
(I have taken black bear, deer, mountain goat , mountain lion, and last year a Brown bear in Alaska) I have used a single shot rifle for most of those animals. (his argument did not hold water)

THe gun companies should be required to abolish those weapons... we can't take away what the public has , but it is a start.

[Patrick Chewing]

my god you must be on drugs.

Quite frankly I blame the gun manufactures. They have lost millions of dollars because after the baby bombers the next generations did not take up
hunting but video games.
The gun companies had to fill the bottom line , and so they created a niche called target shooting with an AK 15.
I am a hunter , and had a discussion on another forum about the use of the weapon , and a guy told me that is what he hunts with.
(I have taken black bear, deer, mountain goat , mountain lion, and last year a Brown bear in Alaska) I have used a single shot rifle for most of those animals. (his argument did not hold water)

THe gun companies should be required to abolish those weapons... we can't take away what the public has , but it is a start.

Yep. Cause when someone holds an AR-15 in their hands for the first time, the first thought that comes to their mind is to go on a mass shooting. The AR-15 has demonic powers that forces people to go on mass shootings with it. So clearly the gun manufacturers are in league with Satan and are very aware of what's happening with the demonic takeover that is happening with the AR-15 and are just profiting from all the deaths. Right now as I type this they are laughing over the deaths while standing on piles and piles of cash.

And despite what statistics say that handguns cause the most deaths and most of those handgun deaths are suicide, the AR-15 is a weapon of Satan and we must do something to remove it from the Earth and replace it with a handgun. Or a meatball sandwich.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Holy Sh!t

10 mass shootings in one weekend.

America's door problem is out of control.

[Jasper]

Yep. Cause when someone holds an AR-15 in their hands for the first time, the first thought that comes to their mind is to go on a mass shooting. The AR-15 has demonic powers that forces people to go on mass shootings with it. So clearly the gun manufacturers are in league with Satan and are very aware of what's happening with the demonic takeover that is happening with the AR-15 and are just profiting from all the deaths. Right now as I type this they are laughing over the deaths while standing on piles and piles of cash.

And despite what statistics say that handguns cause the most deaths and most of those handgun deaths are suicide, the AR-15 is a weapon of Satan and we must do something to remove it from the Earth and replace it with a handgun. Or a meatball sandwich.

you act like a two year that can type-
A bipartisan vote is coming up to change the law to read 18-21 year old's are allowed to purchase a weapon ....

why hasn't any of these mass shooting been with a single shot rifle ?:confusedshrug:

[bladefd]

House just passed bill to raise age limit to 21 on semiautomatic rifles. Republicans are fighting it and won't let it get past Senate.

You want someone to blame? Blame the Republicans in House and Senate.

[Patrick Chewing]

you act like a two year that can type-
A bipartisan vote is coming up to change the law to read 18-21 year old's are allowed to purchase a weapon ....

why hasn't any of these mass shooting been with a single shot rifle ?:confusedshrug:

A single shot rifle? Does such a weapon exist?

[Patrick Chewing]

House just passed bill to raise age limit to 21 on semiautomatic rifles. Republicans are fighting it and won't let it get past Senate.

You want someone to blame? Blame the Republicans in House and Senate.

Raising the age to 21 won't stop mass shootings.

[bladefd]

Raising the age to 21 won't stop mass shootings.

18yr olds should not be able to walk into a store and buy a rifle. Background checks will be useless for them unless if they did something very recently after turning 18.

[Cleverness]

House just passed bill to raise age limit to 21 on semiautomatic rifles. Republicans are fighting it and won't let it get past Senate.

You want someone to blame? Blame the Republicans in House and Senate.

And which part of the Constitution grants the federal gov't the authority to make gun laws?

[Lakers Legend#32]

202 House Republicans just voted to continue to allow shooters like the one in Uvalde to buy AR-15s to slaughter children with.

[Patrick Chewing]

18yr olds should not be able to walk into a store and buy a rifle. Background checks will be useless for them unless if they did something very recently after turning 18.

None of what you just said applies to anything. You will still have 21 year old mass shooters then.

[Off the Court]

None of what you just said applies to anything. You will still have 21 year old mass shooters then.
Removing 18-19-20 year olds from the mix helps. I know it's difficult for you but you have to stop thinking so black and white. It is a given that we will not be able to remove 100% of mass shootings, but a reduction in mass shootings helps.

If we can reduce cancer deaths by 50% that's a huge win correct? It's the same with gun deaths, a reduction is progress in the right direction.

[JohnnySic]

Why is it that libtards always go after law abiding citizens after a story like this? 95% of gun violence is gang related. How come they never go after the street gangs and the cartels?

[Off the Court]

Why is it that libtards always go after law abiding citizens after a story like this? 95% of gun violence is gang related. How come they never go after the street gangs and the cartels?
Who do you think a background check targets? :facepalm

[diamenz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNOXaRcF7kw

[Off the Court]

Bill Burr making sense, I will say that we all need to get over random people lashing out or yelling at each other on social media. There is no escaping that. There are people on Twitter right now yelling at each other over what Justin Bieber is wearing. There will always be people lashing out just have to ignore them and try to compromise.

[warriorfan]

I don’t understand the mental health screening. Would it be just an interview with a psychologist? A list of questions to answer? What’s stopping people from just lying during the examination about how they really feel? Will it be yes no questions that are tallied up with a certain benchmark to be deemed unfit to have guns? If there is no strict criteria, is it just a judgement call for the examiner? Isn’t there possibilities of perfectly fine people getting mislabeled and denied of their rights over a subjective interpretation? Can’t a mentally ill person feign not being for a short period of time and go through the examination fine? Are we going to have lie detector tests? If so why is it allowed in the mental health screening but not admissible in court? Where are these mental health examinations records going to be stored and who will be able to access them and for what purposes?

People pushing for the “mandatory mental health checks” should think about some of these questions and how effective it would really be in the long run.

And do they know a lot of states already have mental health checks by looking at peoples medical records? If you have ever been involuntarily committed to a hospital for mental illness reasons…you are declined on the spot right there. If you have any sort of domestic violence convictions, declined on the spot right there. If you have a non violent felony conviction you are declined on the spot right there.

People seem to think the mental health evaluation thing is a magic solution that will easily fix everything when that’s not the case.

[John8204]

Why is it that libtards always go after law abiding citizens after a story like this? 95% of gun violence is gang related. How come they never go after the street gangs and the cartels?

Well having a gun registry and national laws and not state laws would be a good step in that direction. 1,000 gun crimes in Chicago were traced back to 1 store in Indiana.

But the gun laws we need

Two Gun licenses - 16-24 bolt action fire arms, 25-up semi-automatic weapons.

The idea that you can buy any gun you wish at 18 is absurd, having good credit/standing before purchasing certain weapons is just common sense. Many of these shooters/terrorists suffered from obvious mental illnesses, they aren't going to be able to hide those illnesses for 8 years.

[Patrick Chewing]

Removing 18-19-20 year olds from the mix helps. I know it's difficult for you but you have to stop thinking so black and white. It is a given that we will not be able to remove 100% of mass shootings, but a reduction in mass shootings helps.

If we can reduce cancer deaths by 50% that's a huge win correct? It's the same with gun deaths, a reduction is progress in the right direction.

I just don't understand your logic. What is stopping someone who may want to kill at 18, from killing at age 21? That's another 3 more years of pent-up aggression and hate. You're trying to tell us that there's some special magic that takes place that removes the need to kill once someone reaches the age of 21. Make it make sense. Cause your logic doesn't.

[Off the Court]

I just don't understand your logic. What is stopping someone who may want to kill at 18, from killing at age 21? That's another 3 more years of pent-up aggression and hate. You're trying to tell us that there's some special magic that takes place that removes the need to kill once someone reaches the age of 21. Make it make sense. Cause your logic doesn't.
Special magic? It's called growing up. Kids do all sorts of retarded shit that they would never do as an adult.

I mean under your logic we might as well allow 5 year olds to buy AR15s because they could just wait and do when their 18 so might as well let them get it over with now :facepalm

It also simply makes the field smaller. Removing an entire age range from gun ownership, the retarded ages, means less gun out there on the street.



The logic that doesn't make sense, is you, a 50 year old man, wanting dumb kids to be able to legally buy guns. Why are you fighting for retarded 18 year olds to have guns? What is in that for you?

[Off the Court]

I don’t understand the mental health screening. Would it be just an interview with a psychologist? A list of questions to answer? What’s stopping people from just lying during the examination about how they really feel? Will it be yes no questions that are tallied up with a certain benchmark to be deemed unfit to have guns? If there is no strict criteria, is it just a judgement call for the examiner? Isn’t there possibilities of perfectly fine people getting mislabeled and denied of their rights over a subjective interpretation? Can’t a mentally ill person feign not being for a short period of time and go through the examination fine? Are we going to have lie detector tests? If so why is it allowed in the mental health screening but not admissible in court? Where are these mental health examinations records going to be stored and who will be able to access them and for what purposes?

People pushing for the “mandatory mental health checks” should think about some of these questions and how effective it would really be in the long run.

And do they know a lot of states already have mental health checks by looking at peoples medical records? If you have ever been involuntarily committed to a hospital for mental illness reasons…you are declined on the spot right there. If you have any sort of domestic violence convictions, declined on the spot right there. If you have a non violent felony conviction you are declined on the spot right there.

People seem to think the mental health evaluation thing is a magic solution that will easily fix everything when that’s not the case.

The screening would simply be looking at medical history and drugs prescribed.

Are you currently taking medication for mental health? Okay no guns for you.

Are you currently in therapy for mental health?

Were you in a drug rehab in the last year?

These events get flagged and prevent gun sales to those in poor mental health.

[Patrick Chewing]

Special magic? It's called growing up.

:oldlol:


"Hey Jimmy, tell us about a meaningful event from your childhood."

"Well, when I turned 21, I sort of outgrew my killing and mass shooting phase."

[Off the Court]

I guess it is difficult for you to comprehend because you mentally maxed out at age 18, but for most everyone else their world views change drastically from that age.

Generally speaking, 18 year olds are complete morons.

[Patrick Chewing]

I guess it is difficult for you to comprehend because you mentally maxed out at age 18, but for most everyone else their world views change drastically from that age.

Generally speaking, 18 year olds are complete morons.


But you don't speak for most everyone else. You speak for yourself. Nor are you a clinical psychologist.

[diamenz]

what else can you do but just laugh at this point? what a joke. this country, it's easily influenced partisan inhabitants and their inability to see beyond their own nose, the big money corruption in washington, the manipulation of mass media, it's all one big fuc*ing joke man. what a clown show.

[Off the Court]

what else can you do but just laugh at this point? what a joke. this country, it's easily influenced partisan inhabitants and their inability to see beyond their own nose, the big money corruption in washington, the manipulation of mass media, it's all one big fuc*ing joke man. what a clown show.

On this particular issue the divide isn't that great, majority of Americans want tighter gun laws even Republicans. The Chewings of the world are in the minority, but the NRA has people in power in their pocket.

[diamenz]

On this particular issue the divide isn't that great, majority of Americans want tighter gun laws even Republicans. The Chewings of the world are in the minority, but the NRA has people in power in their pocket.

exactly. the ones on the right dismissing every legitimate policy argument and not offering any of their own reasonable solutions have just as many brainworms as the ones on the left calling for gun confiscation.

[Patrick Chewing]

On this particular issue the divide isn't that great, majority of Americans want tighter gun laws even Republicans. The Chewings of the world are in the minority, but the NRA has people in power in their pocket.

We all want mass shootings to end. But what's being proposed now isn't going to do a damn thing.

[bladefd]

We all want mass shootings to end. But what's being proposed now isn't going to do a damn thing.

What do you propose then?

[Off the Court]

What do you propose then?
Thoughts and prayers

[Patrick Chewing]

What do you propose then?

Adopt a nationwide Red Flag system similar to what Florida has and place a police presence in every school. One-way doors at every school. The fact that schools are not protected but government buildings are is downright criminal.

[Lakers Legend#32]

One-way doors at every school.

That will come in handy during a fire drill.

[Jasper]

Adopt a nationwide Red Flag system similar to what Florida has and place a police presence in every school. One-way doors at every school. The fact that schools are not protected but government buildings are is downright criminal.

Best post from you in about 100 years.

Do schools still have hall monitors ???
Police officer should be on duty when school is in session. If hall monitors are still used , walkie talkies could be coordinated with the officer.

[baudkarma]

I just don't understand your logic. What is stopping someone who may want to kill at 18, from killing at age 21? That's another 3 more years of pent-up aggression and hate. You're trying to tell us that there's some special magic that takes place that removes the need to kill once someone reaches the age of 21. Make it make sense. Cause your logic doesn't.

Nothing is stopping there person from killing at 21. But if someone who is 18 has such serious mental issues at that age that they're willing to gun down a bunch of school children in cold blood, then maybe before they reach 21 they'll do something to attract the attention of the authorities. Domestic violence. Knifing someone in a bar fight. Arrested for selling drugs, burglary, stealing a car. So they'll fail the background check, or maybe have to attend court-ordered psychiatric counseling and get themselves some help.

Raising the minimum age isn't a perfect solution. Someone contemplating mass murder isn't going to let a little thing like stealing a couple of guns bother their conscience. But maybe they'll get caught during the theft.

[Lakers Legend#32]

What do you propose then?

Stronger door laws

[BigKobeFan]

Stronger door laws

get you a mental health therapist.

[Lakers Legend#32]

[QUOTE=BigKobeFan;14619910]get you a mental health therapist.[/QUOTE

Ted Cruz is the one pushing for stronger doors as the solutions for mass shootings.

He is no more serious than you.

[Axe]

What do you propose then?
Magic word for every door.

[Nanners]

Raising the age to buy a semi-auto rifle from 18 to 21 is one of the few gun control measures that I would agree with on paper, an AR or AK is a big responsibility for an 18 year old and restricting ownership a couple years longer wont really change much in the scheme of things.

That said, since I know for a fact that the moment a law like this passes the gun grabbers will just start attacking from some new angle like so-called "high capacity magazines" (in reality magazines that carry more than 10 rounds are just normal capacity) or "enhanced (aka politicized) background checks".... therefore I remain vehemently opposed to literally any gun law whatsoever, as well as any politician who supports them.

[Nanners]

Adopt a nationwide Red Flag system similar to what Florida has and place a police presence in every school. One-way doors at every school. The fact that schools are not protected but government buildings are is downright criminal.

Ultimately the only thing red flag laws will accomplish is disarming people like you who post non mainstream approved opinions online.

Not only was law enforcement aware of the Uvalde shooter prior to his attack, but FFS he posted photos online of himself holding a bag full of dead cats... the dude had psycho written all over him and law enforcement still failed to do anything until it was far too late. Also the Uvalde kid purchased his firearms and did his shooting within a day or two of eachother, so even if texas had a red flag law they probably would not have been informed of his purchase in time to confiscate it.

[JohnnySic]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FV0s3SXWIAIwIxj?format=jpg&name=small

[KNOW1EDGE]

The good news is that if they pass these red flag laws criminals will obey the law and they won’t illegally obtain guns. These criminals are willing to murder innocent people but they are def not going to break a red flag law.

Also it’s good they are trying to get rid of AR style rifles because the majority of mass shootings are done with handguns.

It would be silly for them to allow school staff to arm themselves to protect the students.

It would also be stupid to have armed guards at schools to protect kids the way we have armed guards at government buildings. Kids aren’t worthy of being protected only politicians and famous people.

[kabar]

The good news is that if they pass these red flag laws criminals will obey the law and they won’t illegally obtain guns. These criminals are willing to murder innocent people but they are def not going to break a red flag law.

Also it’s good they are trying to get rid of AR style rifles because the majority of mass shootings are done with handguns.

It would be silly for them to allow school staff to arm themselves to protect the students.

It would also be stupid to have armed guards at schools to protect kids the way we have armed guards at government buildings. Kids aren’t worthy of being protected only politicians and famous people.
This is just the dumbest take. Of course red flag laws won't prevent all people from obtaining guns illegally but it will deter some, like a mentally disturbed kid who just turned 18 who is trying to turn his fantasies into reality, and reporting laws will alert authorities if he tries. Of course this hinges on proper identification by school counselors and teachers. Hmm, maybe if we spent those trillions of dollars in the middle east for smaller class sizes and mental health for our future generation of kids.

I think these red flag laws are a first deterrent but what really needs to happen is identification of why so many young men are shooting up schools/churches/mass gatherings? I don't think Congress can achieve a cultural shift, so what can Congress do?

[Patrick Chewing]

Legalize prostitution. Some of these incel shooters don't understand the stress relief that is getting laid. But when you have incels who don't understand how to even talk to a woman, you're asking for a school full of kids to get shot up.

I mean, what woman would want voluntarily spread her legs for someone like this:

https://i.ibb.co/5YZxLZs/RRR3tard.png

[kabar]

Legalize prostitution. Some of these incel shooters don't understand the stress relief that is getting laid. But when you have incels who don't understand how to even talk to a woman, you're asking for a school full of kids to get shot up.

I mean, what woman would want voluntarily spread her legs for someone like this:

https://i.ibb.co/5YZxLZs/RRR3tard.png

You have pictures of another man saved on your computer. I highly doubt you talk to any woman.

[Patrick Chewing]

you have pictures of another man saved on your computer. I highly doubt you talk to any woman.

Incel Alert

[Nanners]

This isnt a problem that you solve with a law.

In the entirety of US history prior to ~1990ish, there were very few mass shootings, despite the fact that guns have been everywhere since this country was founded. There were no notable gun laws that expired in the 1990s that could explain why "mass shootings" became more common here (on the contrary, the assault weapon ban was passed in 1994), there is clearly something else going on. FFS, up until 1986 a civilian could walk into a gun store and walk out with full auto m16 or uzi in less than 15 minutes... if the existence and availability of devastating weapons is the cause of mass shootings, then why werent mass shootings happening prior to the full auto ban?

Also, ~98% of US gun deaths each year are caused by handguns (the vast majority of those handgun deaths are suicides or gang related shootings in inner cities). On average, its rare for more than one or two hundred americans to die from rifles in a given year (and thats ALL rifles, ARs + hunting rifles, and ALL deaths for any reason). As a civilian you are FAR more likely to die in a random stabbing or random beating with fists than a rifle attack, so why exactly do we need new laws on ARs?

[warriorfan]

This isnt a problem that you solve with a law.

In the entirety of US history prior to ~1990ish, there were very few mass shootings, despite the fact that guns have been everywhere since this country was founded. There were no notable gun laws that expired in the 1990s that could explain why "mass shootings" became more common here (on the contrary, the assault weapon ban was passed in 1994), there is clearly something else going on. FFS, up until 1986 a civilian could walk into a gun store and walk out with full auto m16 or uzi in less than 15 minutes... if the existence and availability of devastating weapons is the cause of mass shootings, then why werent mass shootings happening prior to the full auto ban?

Also, ~98% of US gun deaths each year are caused by handguns (the vast majority of those handgun deaths are suicides or gang related shootings in inner cities). On average, its rare for more than one or two hundred americans to die from rifles in a given year (and thats ALL rifles, ARs + hunting rifles, and ALL deaths for any reason). As a civilian you are FAR more likely to die in a random stabbing or random beating with fists than a rifle attack, so why exactly do we need new laws on ARs?

It’s almost like libs only want to do something about it once white children start dying….

How racist.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Legalize prostitution. Some of these incel shooters don't understand the stress relief that is getting laid. But when you have incels who don't understand how to even talk to a woman, you're asking for a school full of kids to get shot up.

I mean, what woman would want voluntarily spread her legs for someone like this:

https://i.ibb.co/5YZxLZs/RRR3tard.png

Poopsie just wants prostitution legalized for himself.

[JohnnySic]

Scotus commenced a revolution in Second Amendment law, striking down New York's strict limits on concealed carry. Clarence Thomas declared that most restrictions on firearms are unconstitutional. :applause:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FV88bUZXwAAOAjo?format=jpg&name=900x900

:roll:

[Off the Court]

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gun-deaths-per-capita-by-state

NY has the 2nd lowest gun death rate in the country behind only Hawaii.

The states with the highest gun deaths are all deep south red states.

[Nanners]

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gun-deaths-per-capita-by-state

NY has the 2nd lowest gun death rate in the country behind only Hawaii.

The states with the highest gun deaths are all deep south red states.

Meanwhile the cities that have the highest gun death rates in the US have all seen their death rates double (or worse) over the past ~2 years.

[Off the Court]

Meanwhile the cities that have the highest gun death rates in the US have all seen their death rates double (or worse) over the past ~2 years.

So the cities with red state gun laws? They should try adopting NY's gun laws.

Although I guess it's pointless since SCOTUS is hell bend on flooding the country with guns. Probably in NRA's pocket somehow.

[warriorfan]

So the cities with red state gun laws? They should try adopting NY's gun laws.

Although I guess it's pointless since SCOTUS is hell bend on flooding the country with guns. Probably in NRA's pocket somehow.

Cry about it some more you gunless bitch.

[Off the Court]

Cry about it some more you gunless bitch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ1hKtYOx_c

[Patrick Chewing]

OTC (MaxFly) plays this dumb game of "But Red States have higher murder rates", yet he never mentions that the crime and murder happens by far in the Blue cities and districts within those Red States. So in some perverted way of justification for his side, he blames the violence happening in Blue cities across the country on "Red States".

He walks around telling people that crime is up in Red States, but never goes into the detail as to who are the main culprits. Dude is a shady son of a bitch.

[Off the Court]

OTC (MaxFly) plays this dumb game of "But Red States have higher murder rates", yet he never mentions that the crime and murder happens by far in the Blue cities and districts within those Red States. So in some perverted way of justification for his side, he blames the violence happening in Blue cities across the country on "Red States".

He walks around telling people that crime is up in Red States, but never goes into the detail as to who are the main culprits. Dude is a shady son of a bitch.
They have to abide by the red state gun laws. :facepalm

Strange coincidence that the red states have the highest death rates and the blue states have the lowest.

Here are the main culprits:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Map_of_firearm_death_rates_by_US_state.png/450px-Map_of_firearm_death_rates_by_US_state.png

Again NY is the 2nd lowest in the country behind only Hawaii

The entire country should follow their lead.

[Patrick Chewing]

Criminals don't obey laws you doofus! Doesn't matter what color the state is. Majority of the violence in this country happens in Blue states.

[Off the Court]

Criminals don't obey laws you doofus! Doesn't matter what color the state is. Majority of the violence in this country happens in Blue states.
Wrong.

I guess you missed the first time so here I'll show you again.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Map_of_firearm_death_rates_by_US_state.png/450px-Map_of_firearm_death_rates_by_US_state.png

New York looks like an episode of Sesame Street in comparison to Louisiana.

Here are the top 5 states by homicide rate:
1. Mississippi 20.5
2. Louisiana 19.9
3. Alabama 14.2
4. Missouri 14
5. Arkansas 13

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm

[Patrick Chewing]

I meant to say Blue cities.

You cannot dispute that.

[KNOW1EDGE]

What new gun laws will prevent mass shootings?

The answer is none. No new gun law will prevent mass shootings. It just makes the liberals feel good and outrages the conservatives.

The best plan of action would would probably be both stricter gun laws along with having armed guards at every school in America. Both sides don’t want what the other side is suggesting so likely nothing will get done and this will keep happening.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Poopsie's solution to gun violence.

Legalize prostitution so I can finally get laid.

[ShawkFactory]

I meant to say Blue cities.

You cannot dispute that.

Aren't you the one who thought Atlanta was deteriorating?

[Patrick Chewing]

Aren't you the one who thought Atlanta was deteriorating?

I'm only stating the facts.

https://www.ajc.com/news/crime/atlanta-no-3-for-highest-homicide-jump-during-covid-study-finds/HW37L6IMM5BFZLWH7DP6TZJSRI/

[ShawkFactory]

I'm only stating the facts.

https://www.ajc.com/news/crime/atlanta-no-3-for-highest-homicide-jump-during-covid-study-finds/HW37L6IMM5BFZLWH7DP6TZJSRI/

:lol

https://33n.atlantaregional.com/friday-factday/atlanta-crime-in-historical-perspective-2009-2021#:~:text=In%20aggregate%2C%20violent%20crime%2 0also,any%20year%202017%20or%20earlier.

If you aren't interested in clicking the link...both property and violent crimes have literally been cut in half since 2009. Pretty incredible actually.

[Patrick Chewing]

:lol

https://33n.atlantaregional.com/friday-factday/atlanta-crime-in-historical-perspective-2009-2021#:~:text=In%20aggregate%2C%20violent%20crime%2 0also,any%20year%202017%20or%20earlier.

If you aren't interested in clicking the link...both property and violent crimes have literally been cut in half since 2009. Pretty incredible actually.

You're not refuting what I said. This whole time, what people like I have been saying is that crime is going up in these Blue cities due to weak Liberal leadership and this whole "Defund the Police" movement that Liberals adopted. You showing me a graph that crime was higher 10, 15, 20 years ago doesn't refute that crime is spiking back up again as is shown in the very same graph you provided. Nowhere have we stated that crime is currently at record levels. The current spike is what matters because this is the timeframe that is relevant to all of us now. I'm sure murders have been down in this country since the Wild, Wild, West days. :oldlol:

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You're not refuting what I said. This whole time, what people like I have been saying is that crime is going up in these Blue cities due to weak Liberal leadership and this whole "Defund the Police" movement that Liberals adopted. You showing me a graph that crime was higher 10, 15, 20 years ago doesn't refute that crime is spiking back up again as is shown in the very same graph you provided. Nowhere have we stated that crime is currently at record levels. The current spike is what matters because this is the timeframe that is relevant to all of us now. I'm sure murders have been down in this country since the Wild, Wild, West days. :oldlol:

All trolling aside l the fact that Atlanta, despite the surge in 2020, has had its crime rates literally halved in just over a decade is pretty incredible. Particularly since that hasn’t been the case in most places.

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Guns aren’t the issue, a lack of access to suitable mental health assistance is. Other countries don’t ban guns and don’t have mass shootings.

Banning weapons for civilians in a country with a highly militarized police force and the most powerful military on earth is an obvious recipe for a complete fascist takeover. Do not support banning guns if you consider yourself at all on the left. Republicans supporting doesn’t mean it’s wrong, and they historically support gun control once black people start organizing with guns anyways :lol (see-the Black Panthers)