Curry vs MJ... Who's better?

[3ba11]

Curry might be a superior offensive player and actually might be THE goat offensive player... but Jordan has him defensively

So it's tough.

Unlike "heliocentric" players (ball-dominators) that make teammates stand in the corner, off-ball players like Curry and MJ yield the teammate fits, teammate development, chemistry and brand of ball to win organically and don't need super-teams (talent-based winning).

Curry is the one player that might have BETTER teammate fits, teammate development, chemistry and brand of ball than Jordan, which is why his organic team ceiling might be higher (73 wins.. goat team with KD).

[SouBeachTalents]

Curry relies on today's high-screen, drive-and-kick strategy.

This strategy allows 3-point shooters to stand and wait for kickouts, thus adding to the attempts they get off-the-dribble or off screens - if Curry had to run off screens with a defender stuck to him like Reggie Miller had to do, he would barely get off 5 theees a game..

Curry actually took 5 threes a game for 3 straight years and was a 19 ppg scorer, but then the league strategy became the aforementioned 3-point contest, which allowed Curry's production to reach elite levels.

Ultimately, he's just a 3-point shooter, so he's 1-dimensional.

[tpols]

Curry might be a superior offensive player and actually might be THE goat offensive player... but Jordan has him defensively

So it's tough.

Unlike "heliocentric" players (ball-dominators) that make teammates stand in the corner, off-ball players like Curry and MJ yield the teammate fits, teammate development, chemistry and brand of ball to win organically and don't need super-teams (talent-based winning).

Curry is the one player that might have BETTER teammate fits, teammate development, chemistry and brand of ball than Jordan, which is why his organic team ceiling might be higher (73 wins.. goat team with KD).

I would say Magic and Bird should be there too. The highest assist teams of all time were the Showtime Lakers, Bird Celtics, and Curry warriors. AKA GOAT brands of ball.

[1987_Lakers]

I would say Magic and Bird should be there too. The highest assist teams of all time were the Showtime Lakers, Bird Celtics, and Curry warriors. AKA GOAT brands of ball.

One thing I do know... Siakam > Giannis

[Axe]

Oubre jr. > klay

:whatever:

[tpols]

One thing I do know... Siakam > Giannis

Almost all of Kobes title winning teams had top 10 assist ranks. In fact his teams best assist ranks came without Shaq when he led the 2nd and 4th ranked assist teams in 2008 and 2009.

That's why he was able to lead championship teams with no superstar teammates. Brand of ball matters my friend. Teamwork matters.

[3ba11]

Curry relies on today's high-screen, drive-and-kick strategy.





^^^ Wow, you must be trolling because Steph might have the goat combination of on-ball and off-ball skills - this combo fits with any teammate or system and therefore allows the teammate fits/chemistry needed to win organically.






This strategy allows 3-point shooters to stand and wait for kickouts, thus adding to the attempts they get off-the-dribble or off screens - if Curry had to run off screens with a defender stuck to him like Reggie Miller had to do, he would barely get off 5 threes a game..





But spacing was more valuable back then compared to today because nobody had spacing back then - it was more scarce..

So even though Curry's volume and scoring might decline slightly, he would still be giving his team a rare spacing effect (for that era) that would yield titles.. Reggie Miller is a great comparison because if his poor man's spacing effect nearly won titles without all-star teammates, then Curry's goat spacing would easily win..

Since Miller's 1-star teams nearly beat MJ's Bulls in 98' or the Shaq/Kobe Lakers in the 00' Finals, then Curry's goat spacing would beat those teams.






Curry actually took 5 threes a game for 3 straight years and was a 19 ppg scorer, but then the league strategy became the aforementioned 3-point contest, which allowed Curry's production to reach elite levels.





The first 3 seasons of his career?... :whatever:...


MJ was 1-9 during that time lol

Nobody uses the early years of a player's career as a gauge.. That's just as dumb as saying 1-9 about Jordan..






Ultimately, he's just a 3-point shooter, so he's 1-dimensional.





And an absolute goat ball-handler..

And a goat point guard

And a goat leader, teammate-elevator, culture-builder, and WINNER

And a conqueror of maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load in Finals)

[SouBeachTalents]

^ 3ball literally arguing with himself

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493318-Curry-is-the-most-overrated-player-in-history&p=14321172&viewfull=1#post14321172

Absolutely fcking insane :lol

[3ba11]

^ 3ball literally arguing with himself

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493318-Curry-is-the-most-overrated-player-in-history&p=14321172&viewfull=1#post14321172

Absolute fcking loser :lol


I thought you would find that quite funny

I gave you a little crash course on how to answer 3ball's "bullshit"

I destroyed myself

Btw, the thread you cited was a troll thread, which is why I destroyed it so easily in my response above

[Axe]

Both may end up being better than kobe someday. :(

[3ba11]

Both may end up being better than kobe someday. :(


If Curry wins this, he's possibly better than Kobe and the debate is him and MJ

Regardless, I had all 3 in my top 5 since 11/2021

[SouBeachTalents]

I thought you would find that quite funny

I gave you a little crash course on how to answer 3ball's "bullshit"

I destroyed myself

Btw, the thread you cited was a troll thread, which is why I destroyed it so easily in my response above
:whatever: No it wasn't :lol

[ShawkFactory]

I thought you would find that quite funny

I gave you a little crash course on how to answer 3ball's "bullshit"

I destroyed myself

Btw, the thread you cited was a troll thread, which is why I destroyed it so easily in my response above

Oh yea but now you're totally serious :lol

[RRR3]

Straitjacketball babbling incoherently again.

[Full Court]

Curry's a better shooter. But if you objectively look at them holistically, MJ blows him out of the water.

Besides, 6/6 with 6 FMVPs >>>>>>>>>>>>3/6 with 0 FMVPs.

And even though Curry's the better shooter, Jordan was the better offensive player. He wasn't as streaky as Curry, plus the man won 10 scoring titles....to Curry's 1 (I think).

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

^ 3ball literally arguing with himself

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493318-Curry-is-the-most-overrated-player-in-history&p=14321172&viewfull=1#post14321172

Absolutely fcking insane :lol

Kobeball went from one extreme to the other. :lol

It was never about Mike. This yahoo will use ANY player to denigrate Lebron. Overrating Curry is simply par for the course.

[j3lademaster]

It's obviously Jordan. All-time level perimeter defense, all-time level midrange shotmaking... whether creating his own from triple-threat, the post or off the catch; and probably the greatest slasher we have ever seen. You need someone who can impose their will in the playoffs and has the ability to always make something out of nothing. 3 point shooting is cute, but if you're too reliant on it you will lose games simply due to 3 pt droughts coming at the wrong time. It happens all the time.

I think 21 Durant is a perfect example of the value of the 2 point game. His team shot horrendously and he kept them in games because he would stop Milwaukee's runs because of how unstoppable he was offensively.

Jordan would also average better stats. Better ts due to the amount of 3 point shooters the league is stacked with now, more 3's than ever= more long rebounds which is why guards are averaging more, on top of most teams playing small ball so less true bigs to compete with for boards. And for a slasher, barring the occasional defensive breakdown, there isn't an easier assist than a drive and kick 3.

[Carbine]

The difference between LeBron and Curry in those finals was quite obvious. Just looking at them as basketball players. You knew LeBron was more impactful and just a straight up better player. In every series they played.

That's the difference between a GOAT level player and the next tier. Steph can never be in the goat convo because his resume isn't good enough for 1 and 2; he gets searched out on defense a lot. You don't search out MJ or LeBron in his prime.

[hold this L]

Why are you comparing Curry to the goat? :facepalm

[Round Mound]

MJ

[Baller789]

The difference between LeBron and Curry in those finals was quite obvious. Just looking at them as basketball players. You knew LeBron was more impactful and just a straight up better player. In every series they played.

That's the difference between a GOAT level player and the next tier. Steph can never be in the goat convo because his resume isn't good enough for 1 and 2; he gets searched out on defense a lot. You don't search out MJ or LeBron in his prime.

Thats cute but....

Le Barry isnt in the convo. :facepalm

[HighFlyer23]

Curry might be a superior offensive player and actually might be THE goat offensive player... but Jordan has him defensively

So it's tough.

Unlike "heliocentric" players (ball-dominators) that make teammates stand in the corner, off-ball players like Curry and MJ yield the teammate fits, teammate development, chemistry and brand of ball to win organically and don't need super-teams (talent-based winning).

Curry is the one player that might have BETTER teammate fits, teammate development, chemistry and brand of ball than Jordan, which is why his organic team ceiling might be higher (73 wins.. goat team with KD).

Shut the **** up and kys

[KNOW1EDGE]

Does anyone over the age of 30 think Steph Curry is a better basketball player than Michael Jordan?

[Axe]

Does anyone over the age of 30 think Steph Curry is a better basketball player than Michael Jordan?
@Stephonit

[AirBonner]

3ball now a curry fan. Scores 16pts while winning the game “no help tho” fvxk outta here you dumbass

[Shooter]

3ball...

https://i.postimg.cc/8CjfQYrV/Flip-Flop-Ball.png

[Phoenix]

I thought you would find that quite funny

I gave you a little crash course on how to answer 3ball's "bullshit"

I destroyed myself

Btw, the thread you cited was a troll thread, which is why I destroyed it so easily in my response above

So, the quote SBT mimicked is now admitted bullshit. Your reply to your admitted bullshit is more bullshit, and a year from now when someone quotes your post #7 because you no doubt will have changed your opinion again, you'll declare THAT as trolling bullshit as well.

3nutball™ everybody :applause:

[ILLsmak]

Curry is not the GOAT offensive player hue hue.

-Smak

[ILLsmak]

wp

-Smak

[HoopsNY]

The difference between LeBron and Curry in those finals was quite obvious. Just looking at them as basketball players. You knew LeBron was more impactful and just a straight up better player. In every series they played.

That's the difference between a GOAT level player and the next tier. Steph can never be in the goat convo because his resume isn't good enough for 1 and 2; he gets searched out on defense a lot. You don't search out MJ or LeBron in his prime.

It's honestly insulting that others bring up Steph and LeBron in the same conversation. They're just absolutely not on the same tier. Steph is a great player, one of the all-time greats, and somewhere in the 11-15 category. But he is simply not LeBron James.

[1987_Lakers]

It's honestly insulting that others bring up Steph and LeBron in the same conversation. They're just absolutely not on the same tier. Steph is a great player, one of the all-time greats, and somewhere in the 11-15 category. But he is simply not LeBron James.

I don't think I've ever seen any serious person put Curry on LeBron's level. This site is filled with trolls, so a thread like this is expected.

You had 3ball call Curry "The most overrated player ever" just last year, now you see him making threads comparing him to MJ. :lol

[tpols]

I'm just trying to imagine LeBron making the Finals and potentially winning a championship with Andrew Wiggins as his number 2. Its just.... preposterous.

The man couldnt even make the playoffs with Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball, Rondo, Caruso etc. and just led an 11 seed when his team had contender title odds at the start of the year.

Not only does Curry produce on the same level as LeBron, he makes everybody BETTER. He promotes dynasty chemistry while LeBron is just a bigger, smarter Westbrook.

Comparing Curry to LeBron is like comparing somebody who reads at a 3rd grade level to somebody whose writing a thesis to get his PHD. Lebrons brand of ball is like a Cat in the Hat Dr. Suess book while Curry is a Shakespeare script.

Now that we've moved past that and its settled its time to debate MJ vs Curry for GOAT.

[Axe]

I'm just trying to imagine LeBron making the Finals and potentially winning a championship with Andrew Wiggins as his number 2. Its just.... preposterous.

The man couldnt even make the playoffs with Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball, Rondo, Caruso etc. and just led an 11 seed when his team had contender title odds at the start of the year.

Not only does Curry produce on the same level as LeBron, he makes everybody BETTER. He promotes dynasty chemistry while LeBron is just a bigger, smarter Westbrook.

Comparing Curry to LeBron is like comparing somebody who reads at a 3rd grade level to somebody whose writing a thesis to get his PHD.

Now that we've moved past that and its settled its time to debate MJ vs Curry for GOAT.
Wiggins is better than kyrie now, darling.

[tpols]

Wiggins is better than kyrie now, darling.

Wiggins put up 26 points last night and everybody marveled at it. Kyrie had multiple 40 point games on the same stage.

Wiggins was awesome yesterday but it just goes to show you how low his expectations are compared to real stars when a 26 point game is considered legendary. That would be a pedestrian game for kyrie.

[Axe]

Wiggins put up 26 points last night and everybody marveled at it. Kyrie had multiple 40 point games on the same stage.

Wiggins was awesome yesterday but it just goes to show you how low his expectations are compared to real stars when a 26 point game is considered legendary. That would be a pedestrian game for kyrie.
Lmao he didn't have to score over 40 to produce enough impact in winning. He did so by averaging a double-double in two consecutive games, also averaging 14.5 rebounds in that span. Plus he held tatum on offense earlier. That's why he's a potential finals mvp candidate rn if the warriors win the series.

[tpols]

Lmao he didn't have to score over 40 to produce enough impact in winning. He did so by averaging a double-double in two consecutive games, also averaging 14.5 rebounds in that span. Plus he held tatum on offense earlier. That's why he's a potential finals mvp candidate rn once the warriors win the series.

I hope Wiggins goes nuts with a 40 point game and wins FMVP. His intensity and transformation under the warriors culture has been nothing short of amazing. But according to Vegas Wiggins is currently the 8th most bet on player for FMVP after last nights game out of both teams and Curry is 1st. Got to look at the facts Axey baby. With how Tatum has played Curry would win the award no matter what team wins.

[Axe]

I hope Wiggins goes nuts with a 40 point game and wins FMVP. His intensity and transformation under the warriors culture has been nothing short of amazing. But according to Vegas Wiggins is currently the 8th most bet on player for FMVP after last nights game out of both teams and Curry is 1st. Got to look at the facts Axey baby.
I only pointed that out because you seem to have doubts about him as a second guy. Yet in the recent games he has proved to be quite useful on both ends instead of being one-dimensional. That you can't deny, chico.

[tpols]

I only pointed that out because you seem to have doubts about him as a second guy. Yet in the recent games he has proved to be quite useful on both ends instead of being one-dimensional. That you can't deny, chico.

Under Curry and Kerr and the warriors culture I don't doubt him at all. He always had the talent, but not the motor. I still think Wiggins can become even more ferocious. He's still too nice of a guy. I dont think he'd have made this transformation on any other franchise though.

[1987_Lakers]

I'm just trying to imagine LeBron making the Finals and potentially winning a championship with Andrew Wiggins as his number 2. Its just.... preposterous.

The man couldnt even make the playoffs with Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball, Rondo, Caruso etc. and just led an 11 seed when his team had contender title odds at the start of the year.

Coming from a guy who a few weeks ago said current Klay and Draymond are as good as they were in 2016, and that the current Warriors are as good as the 73 won team. LOL.

Look at this fakkit now trying to make it seem like this Warriors team isn't any good.

[3ba11]

Coming from a guy who a few weeks ago said current Klay and Draymond are as good as they were in 2016, and that the current Warriors are as good as the 73 won team. LOL.

Look at this fakkit now trying to make it seem like this Warriors team isn't any good.


Winning a title with Wiggins as sidekick?

You predicted that and thought that was in the realm of possibility?

G...T....F....O

Curry and his dynasty system is elevating Wiggins just like Pippen, who was a 14 ppg dunker that couldn't score outside the triangle

[tpols]

Coming from a guy who a few weeks ago said current Klay and Draymond are as good as they were in 2016, and that the current Warriors are as good as the 73 won team. LOL.

Look at this fakkit now trying to make it seem like this Warriors team isn't any good.

My friend that is the point. Wiggins right now is playing better than Klay or Dray ever did. Yes.... a few weeks ago dray was playing like his typical self. In this series he's been ass. Klay is playing better in this years Finals than he did in 2016.

What you aren't considering is Cleveland used to hard trap curry leaving dray with tons of 4v3 halfcourt fastbreaks and Boston isn't employing that same strategy. Cleveland dared the others to beat them. Boston is daring curry to beat them. These differing strategies impact individual production.

[1987_Lakers]

Winning a title with Wiggins as sidekick?

You predicted that and thought that was in the realm of possibility?

G...T....F....O

Curry and his dynasty system is elevating Wiggins just like Pippen, who was a 14 ppg dunker that couldn't score outside the triangle

Yes I did. I picked the Warriors to win every series they have played so far. Go to page 2 of the Warriors-Celtics game thread to see my prediction.

These Warriors are stacked.

[1987_Lakers]

My friend that is the point. Wiggins right now is playing better than Klay or Dray ever did. Yes.... a few weeks ago dray was playing like his typical self. In this series he's been ass. Klay is playing better in this years Finals than he did in 2016.

What you aren't considering is Cleveland used to hard trap curry leaving dray with tons of 4v3 halfcourt fastbreaks and Boston isn't employing that same strategy. Cleveland dared the others to beat them. Boston is daring curry to beat them. These differing strategies impact individual production.

You're just talking in circles. Doesn't change the fact that you yourself said these Warriors were as good as the 73 win team. You said this, not me. Now you are acting like Curry has no help. You're pathetic.

[3ba11]

Yes I did. I picked the Warriors to win every series they have played so far. Go to page 2 of the Warriors-Celtics game thread to see my prediction.

These Warriors are stacked.


Everyone thought the Warriors were good and had big expectations after their great start to the season

Once everyone saw that Curry had built another juggernaut, we all knew the drill .. It's the same as the 96' Bulls - everyone knew MJ was back after just a few games into the season

But no one thought Curry could win with Wiggins as the sidekick - no one thought he could be the 2nd best player on a champion - so you're just lying and it's obvious

[1987_Lakers]

Everyone thought the Warriors were good and had big expectations after their great start to the season

Once everyone saw that Curry had built another juggernaut, we all knew the drill .. It's the same as the 96' Bulls - everyone knew MJ was back after just a few games into the season

But no one thought Curry could win with Wiggins as the sidekick - no one thought he could be the 2nd best player on a champion - so you're just lying and it's obvious

Curry has proved to be more important to the Warriors than MJ was to the Bulls.

Without Curry, Warriors were the worst team in the NBA.

Without MJ, Grant & Armstrong become all-stars and Pippen plays at MVP level winning 55+ games. MJ ball held these players back.

[StrongLurk]

Both are worse then Lebron so who cares?

[3ba11]

Curry has proved to be more important to the Warriors than MJ was to the Bulls.

Without Curry, Warriors were the worst team in the NBA.

Without MJ, Grant & Armstrong become all-stars and Pippen plays at MVP level winning 55+ games. MJ ball held these players back.


Those Bulls had a rebounder as sidekick (no talent) - fortunately, Jordan had built a 3-peat juggernaut with a 55-win brand of ball.

Pretty impressive.... :confusedshrug:

But after the luster of being defending 3-peat champs was gone and honeymoon over, the REAL bulls without jordan were lottery in 95' before he returned to restore 3-peat caliber.

So Pippen destroyed a 3-peat dynasty to lottery in less than 18 months.

[1987_Lakers]

Jordan built a 3-peat juggernaut with a 55-win brand of ball

Pretty impressive.... :confusedshrug:

After the luster of being defending 3-peat champs was gone and honeymoon over, the REAL bulls without MJ were lottery in 95' before MJ returned to restore 3-peat caliber.

So Pippen destroyed a 3-peat dynasty to lottery in less than 18 months.

They fell off in '95 because they missed Horace, not MJ.

Look no further into how Grant punked MJ in the playoffs that year.

[tpols]

You're just talking in circles. Doesn't change the fact that you yourself said these Warriors were as good as the 73 win team. You said this, not me. Now you are acting like Curry has no help. You're pathetic.

Never said he has no help.

See how mad you are? Throwing insults and getting emotional? That's because you know you're wrong.

This warrior team,only has 1 superstar talent. And a great coach and culture. Everybody else is clearly being elevated. And I love seeing it happen.

[1987_Lakers]

This warrior team,only has 1 superstar talent. And a great coach and culture. Everybody else is clearly being elevated. And I love seeing it happen.

Reminds me of the 2013 Heat. Current Wiggins is better than '13 postseason Wade. :lol

Don't get mad because I call you out on your contradicting statements. There is a reason why everyone including kblaze thinks you are a joke.

[3ba11]

They fell off in '95 because they missed Horace, not MJ.

Look no further into how Grant punked MJ in the playoffs that year.


Kukoc was the #1 option in the 4th and clutch - MJ never had Kukoc during the 1st three-peat

So the cast was already overkill with Kukoc - losing Grant gave them the cast they were supposed to have in 94'.

Ultimately, after the luster of being defending 3-peat champs was gone and the no pressure/honeymoon period ended in the 94' Playoffs, the REAL bulls without jordan were lottery in 95' before he returned to restore 3-peat caliber.

So Pippen destroyed a 3-peat dynasty to lottery in less than 18 months.

[1987_Lakers]

A few weeks ago...

" Current Warriors are as good as the 73 win team"

Now..

"OMG Curry is winning with Wiggins as 2nd option, LeBron would never" - tpols

12 months ago...

"Curry is the most overrated player in history"

Now..

"Curry is top 5 ever" - 3ball

Imagine still posting here after exposing yourselfs like that. Shameless trolls.

[tpols]

Reminds me of the 2013 Heat. Current Wiggins is better than '13 postseason Wade. :lol

Don't get mad because I call you out on your contradicting statements. There is a reason why everyone including kblaze thinks you are a joke.

To compare Wade to Wiggins is absurd. And frankly ban worthy. LeBron lost with prime Wade in 2011 to a huge underdog team.

The fact that you even have the audacity to compare Wade to Wiggins.... and I like Wiggins and don't like wade... on a personal level. What he did to his son was ****ed up and his flopping ref bait style turned me off. But to argue Wiggins over wade?

I think we need to meet out in the parking lot.

[ShawkFactory]

To compare Wade to Wiggins is absurd. And frankly ban worthy. LeBron lost with prime Wade in 2011 to a huge underdog team.

The fact that you even have the audacity to compare Wade to Wiggins.... and I like Wiggins and don't like wade... on a personal level. What he did to his son was ****ed up and his flopping ref bait style turned me off. But to argue Wiggins over wade?

I think we need to meet out in the parking lot.

I think the argument was Wade in his 2013 playoff form. He was clearly banged up. I still wouldn't say Wiggins > that version of Wade though. Wade got a little healthier in the finals and could still turn it to a level that Wiggins obviously isn't capable off.

And in the Eastern Conference playoffs that year its not like he was even really needed so he could just rest for the finals.

[1987_Lakers]

To compare Wade to Wiggins is absurd. And frankly ban worthy. LeBron lost with prime Wade in 2011 to a huge underdog team.

The fact that you even have the audacity to compare Wade to Wiggins.... and I like Wiggins and don't like wade... on a personal level. What he did to his son was ****ed up and his flopping ref bait style turned me off. But to argue Wiggins over wade?

I think we need to meet out in the parking lot.

How is it absurd exactly? In the playoffs (Which is what I said, better in the "playoffs") Wiggins is averaging 16 points on 55 TS% '13 Wade averaged 16 on 50 TS%. Not to mention Wiggins is clearly the better defender of the two, playing great defense on Luka and Tatum in these playoffs. I can actually back up my claims with facts, unlike you.

And stop with the "meet me in the parking lot" BS. Only fultznation can pull off those kind of posts, when you say it you sound cringe.

[tpols]

You still don't get that chemistry and fit impact production. Wade and LeBron had a negative +/- together in the 2013 Finals and an all time choke in 2011 when they were both prime.

While on the flip side curry and the warriors totally boosted Wiggins performance.

I only say the parking lot stuff because I mean it with you. There are some guys here I wouldn't say that to.

You're not one of them.

[ShawkFactory]

You still don't get that chemistry and fit impact production. Wade and LeBron had a negative +/- together in the 2013 Finals and an all time choke in 2011 when they were both prime.

While on the flip side curry and the warriors totally boosted Wiggins performance.

I only say the parking lot stuff because I mean it with you. There are some guys here I wouldn't say that to.

You're not one of them.

In what way? Just out of curiosity, I don't necessarily disagree but the reasoning would probably be different.

[Carbine]

Never said he has no help.

See how mad you are? Throwing insults and getting emotional? That's because you know you're wrong.

This warrior team,only has 1 superstar talent. And a great coach and culture. Everybody else is clearly being elevated. And I love seeing it happen.

Lets look at this logically. Ok?

Warriors first round - plays against Jokic and in all honesty a bunch of below average NBA talent. The Warriors probably had 7 if the best 8 players in the series.

Second round vs Grizzlies - Ja gets hurt and doesn't play in games 4, 5 and 6. Missed half the series. Brooks missed two games. Is this a noteworthy carry job? Absolutely not.

Mavs - Again, the Warriors had a much much better team. They had probably 8 of the best 10 players in the series.

And we just saw the Warriors beat this Celtics team with Steph having one of his worst offensive games of his prime. It wasn't a close win, it was a comfortable win.

I really hope this potential title season doesn't go down as Curry carry job title. That's so far from the truth. They have so many guys who do things that contribute heavily to winning besides scoring.

[1987_Lakers]

You still don't get that chemistry and fit impact production. Wade and LeBron had a negative +/- together in the 2013 Finals and an all time choke in 2011 when they were both prime.

While on the flip side curry and the warriors totally boosted Wiggins performance.

I only say the parking lot stuff because I mean it with you. There are some guys here I wouldn't say that to.

You're not one of them.

The only thing Wiggins has improved is his defense since joining the Warriors and that has nothing to do with Curry. He's getting more open shots, but the open shots are expected since he is now playing with Curry. Similar to how Wade got more open shots playing with LeBron, see how Wade's efficiency dropped once LeBron left.

He's basically producing at a similar level he did the Wolves, the only difference is now people don't expect him to play at a #1 pick level.

[hold this L]

Lets look at this logically. Ok?

Warriors first round - plays against Jokic and in all honesty a bunch of below average NBA talent. The Warriors probably had 7 if the best 8 players in the series.

Second round vs Grizzlies - Ja gets hurt and doesn't play in games 4, 5 and 6. Missed half the series. Brooks missed two games. Is this a noteworthy carry job? Absolutely not.

Mavs - Again, the Warriors had a much much better team. They had probably 8 of the best 10 players in the series.

And we just saw the Warriors beat this Celtics team with Steph having one of his worst offensive games of his prime. It wasn't a close win, it was a comfortable win.

I really hope this potential title season doesn't go down as Curry carry job title. That's so far from the truth. They have so many guys who do things that contribute heavily to winning besides scoring.
Game 5
GSW Ortg with Curry 118.7
GSW Ortg w/o Curry 65.2

Even when Curry shoots like sh*t, he demorilizes teams. And Brooks missing two games is not a negative since 1. they won and lost one of those game, 2. Dray got suspended earlier that they won.


From the first game 3 in the NBA finals, Warriors had a 116 ORTG and I think maybe 90 in ORTG.

[Axe]

Lets look at this logically. Ok?

Warriors first round - plays against Jokic and in all honesty a bunch of below average NBA talent. The Warriors probably had 7 if the best 8 players in the series.

Second round vs Grizzlies - Ja gets hurt and doesn't play in games 4, 5 and 6. Missed half the series. Brooks missed two games. Is this a noteworthy carry job? Absolutely not.

Mavs - Again, the Warriors had a much much better team. They had probably 8 of the best 10 players in the series.

And we just saw the Warriors beat this Celtics team with Steph having one of his worst offensive games of his prime. It wasn't a close win, it was a comfortable win.

I really hope this potential title season doesn't go down as Curry carry job title. That's so far from the truth. They have so many guys who do things that contribute heavily to winning besides scoring.
It's a miracle season for them that with klay and iggy back, as well as revamped poole and wiggins doing some significant things this postseason has immediately put them back as title contenders. In fact they're just a win away from another title now. Compare that to a stark contrast last year wherein despite having a winning record plus a scoring title for chef they were only able to initially garner the last seed. Thus, they had to play in the play ins aka losers bracket first. And what happened rt when klay and iggy weren't available? Lol. Aside from poole and wiggins, bazemore, wiseman and oubre jr. weren't enough for a single win against teams that eventually made and secured the last two seeds in their conference. Teams like the grandpa kong-led lakers and the 'mvp-morant' driven grizzlies to be exact.

[Cali Syndicate]

Career wise, no one is touching MJ. As great of a career Lebron has had, even he fall arguably short. I'm a huge curry fan, and have been since his rookie season but his career isn't even remotely on Lebrons level let alone MJ.

And MJ is clearly the better player, elite on both ends of the floor.

But LOL at anyone thinking curry is a one trick pony or a one dimensional 3pt shooter. That would be a Kyle Korver or Steve Kerr type of player, which curry is far far from. Dude is easily a top 3 PG of all time. But keep hating, it's all good.

[Shooter]

Career wise, no one is touching MJ. As great of a career Lebron has had, even he fall arguably short. I'm a huge curry fan, and have been since his rookie season but his career isn't even remotely on Lebrons level let alone MJ.

And MJ is clearly the better player, elite on both ends of the floor.

But LOL at anyone thinking curry is a one trick pony or a one dimensional 3pt shooter. That would be a Kyle Korver or Steve Kerr type of player, which curry is far far from. Dude is easily a top 3 PG of all time. But keep hating, it's all good.

If he can continue to lead his team in Finals scoring he will be one of only five other players to ever do this. Those players are:

LeBron x9
Jordan x6
Kareem x5
Shaq x 5
Duncan x4
Curry x4 * (as long as Wiggins doesn't pass him, which isn't very likely at this point)