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Shooter
06-14-2022, 12:50 PM
Is if the off brand ball curry sux maximum attention 89 Pippen Ingraham Oubre curry is top 2 paradox?

https://i.postimg.cc/MHtLh5Lg/Pip-over-Mike-once-again.png

Vino24
06-14-2022, 12:54 PM
*3ball has left the chat

Shooter
06-14-2022, 12:55 PM
*3ball has left the chat

:roll::roll:

3ba11
06-14-2022, 01:01 PM
Longevity

It's a longevity stat based on games played - it's amazing that a guard is #7 despite playing the least games... :bowdown:

So how does it feel to be a dumbass OP

And the creators of the stat say that defensive win share is garbage.. Only offensive win share captures everything

1987_Lakers
06-14-2022, 01:08 PM
Longevity

It's a longevity stat based on games played - it's amazing that a guard is #7 despite playing the least games... :bowdown:

So how does it feel to be a dumbass OP

And the creators of the stat say that defensive win share is garbage.. Only offensive win share captures everything

1-9

SouBeachTalents
06-14-2022, 01:10 PM
Longevity

It's a longevity stat based on games played - it's amazing that a guard is #7 despite playing the least games... :bowdown:

So how does it feel to be a dumbass OP

And the creators of the stat say that defensive win share is garbage.. Only offensive win share captures everythingAgreed

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ows_season_p.html

3ba11
06-14-2022, 01:14 PM
Agreed

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ows_season_p.html


Wow, you guys are really dumb

Again it's based on games played - Lebron going 7 games with the Oladipo Pacers helps him

The rate of production stats tell the story - Jordan is #2 all-time in everything - WS/48, VORP, PER, BPM)

1987_Lakers
06-14-2022, 01:19 PM
Agreed

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ows_season_p.html

Ouch.

SouBeachTalents
06-14-2022, 01:26 PM
Wow, you guys are really dumb

Again it's based on games played - Lebron going 7 games with the Oladipo Pacers helps him

The rate of production stats tell the story - Jordan is #2 all-time in everything - WS/48, VORP, PER, BPM)
2012 LeBron: 23 games, 4.21 OWS
1992 Jordan: 22 games, 2.44 OWS

And as for your last point, so is LeBron, while your number 2 player all time Kobe is nowhere to be found :lol

3ba11
06-14-2022, 01:47 PM
2012 LeBron: 23 games, 4.21 OWS
1992 Jordan: 22 games, 2.44 OWS

And as for your last point, so is LeBron, while your number 2 player all time Kobe is nowhere to be found :lol


Comparing Lebron's high with Jordan's low isn't a rebuttal - it's you losing the argument

Again, you posted a longevity stat

Regarding Kobe, the stats are just 1 factor in a comparison - Lebron wins the stats but loses everything else - his skillset has poor brand of ball, teammate fits and can't carry scoring load in Finals, so he needs more help than Kobe and wins less.... :confusedshrug:

SouBeachTalents
06-14-2022, 01:54 PM
Comparing Lebron's high with Jordan's low isn't a rebuttal - it's you losing the argument

Again, you posted a longevity stat

Regarding Kobe, the stats are just 1 factor in a comparison - Lebron wins the stats but loses everything else - his skillset has poor brand of ball, teammate fits and can't carry scoring load in Finals, so he needs more help than Kobe and wins less.... :confusedshrug:
Posting single season playoff stats are longevity stats? Bruh, you’re a fcking retard :lol

And of course, once your initial agenda gets exposed, advanced numbers go from “telling the story” to “just 1 factor”. Another immediate flip flop lol

Gruppenführer
06-14-2022, 01:55 PM
Where is Detlef on that list? He was a great defender.

Shooter
06-14-2022, 02:28 PM
Longevity

It's a longevity stat based on games played - it's amazing that a guard is #7 despite playing the least games... :bowdown:

So how does it feel to be a dumbass OP

And the creators of the stat say that defensive win share is garbage.. Only offensive win share captures everything

Ahh so MJ had shortgevity? Sorry, shoulda played more.

Shooter
06-14-2022, 02:30 PM
2012 LeBron: 23 games, 4.21 OWS
1992 Jordan: 22 games, 2.44 OWS

And as for your last point, so is LeBron, while your number 2 player all time Kobe is nowhere to be found :lol

Ouch :lol SBT stays slaying these boys

Shooter
06-14-2022, 02:31 PM
Agreed

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ows_season_p.html

SHUT it DOWN

#WheresKobe

Round Mound
06-14-2022, 08:01 PM
Cause Pippen sucked at defense :confusedshrug:

By far the best 2nd fiddle and all around SF of the 90's...

Full Court
06-14-2022, 11:07 PM
Lol at the desperation of these Bronies.

Literally nobody ever ranked Pippen above Jordan. But these morons are incapable of understanding the context of stats.

Shooter
06-14-2022, 11:16 PM
Lol at the desperation of these Bronies.

Literally nobody ever ranked Pippen above Jordan. But these morons are incapable of understanding the context of stats.

Why does Pippen have more Defensive Win Shares than MJ?

Full Court
06-14-2022, 11:18 PM
Why does Pippen have more Defensive Win Shares than MJ?

I'll make you a deal. You answer my question, and I'll answer yours.

Why are Bronies so intellectually bereaved?

Shooter
06-14-2022, 11:25 PM
I'll make you a deal. You answer my question, and I'll answer yours.

Why are Bronies so intellectually bereaved?

Thread: Why does Pippen have more Defensive Win Shares than MJ?
Response?

Baller789
06-14-2022, 11:30 PM
So the stat is also saying that Jordan has the highest DWS of all time among guards while Pippen is #2 or #3 among all forwards all time.

Shooter
06-14-2022, 11:32 PM
So the stat is also saying that Jordan has the highest DWS of all time among guards while Pippen is #2 or #3 among all forwards all time.

The stat is also saying that Pippen was a better defensive contributor than Jordan.

Full Court
06-14-2022, 11:33 PM
Thread: Why does Pippen have more Defensive Win Shares than MJ?
Response?

3ball clearly explained it already. By still asking it, you demonstrate that you're too dense to grasp something extremely simple.

Shocking.

Shooter
06-14-2022, 11:33 PM
3ball clearly explained it already. By still asking it, you demonstrate that you're too dense to grasp something extremely simple.

Shocking.

Response? Or are we done here :lol

Baller789
06-14-2022, 11:38 PM
The stat is also saying that Pippen was a better defensive contributor than Jordan.

Even if it was true. It also shows Jordan being an elite defender himself. :oldlol:

Shooter
06-14-2022, 11:42 PM
Even if it was true. It also shows Jordan being an elite defender himself. :oldlol:

Sure, but it also shows LeBron being even better.

Baller789
06-15-2022, 01:20 AM
Sure, but it also shows LeBron being even better.

Thanks for binging up Lebron. :D

https://i.ibb.co/K9Q3s1Q/images-6.jpg (https://ibb.co/8jRSxhR)

Which utterly proves how unreliable this stat is.

:roll:

TheGoatest
06-15-2022, 05:10 AM
Confirmed:

jordon = Sam Jones
The Great Scott Pippen = Bill Russell

Baller789
06-15-2022, 05:11 AM
Confirmed:

jordon = Sam Jones
The Great Scott Pippen = Bill Russell

Cue in the dumb alt when no proper rebuttal can be made.


How predictable :lol

Spurs m8
06-15-2022, 06:48 AM
Another day, another MJ meltdown by another ISH incel

Fantastic

post
06-15-2022, 07:11 AM
So the stat is also saying that Jordan has the highest DWS of all time among guards while Pippen is #2 or #3 among all forwards all time.

kidd and stockton are the only guards with more than jordan neither of which is hard to believe

also centers and forwards tend to get more so it's harder for pippen to stand out among forwards

doesn't really matter though since they were both great defenders even if this isn't the best stat to determine that

Shooter
06-15-2022, 08:50 AM
Cue in the dumb alt when no proper rebuttal can be made.


How predictable :lol

Referring to yourself again?.:lol

Baller789
06-15-2022, 12:02 PM
Referring to yourself again?.:lol

Why are you even replying? I wasnt even quoting you.

Unless... Youre the same person. :roll:

Hey Yo
06-15-2022, 12:09 PM
Referring to yourself again?.:lol
Baller879 aka Full court aka 2much knowledge.

Jig's up....

Shooter
06-15-2022, 12:16 PM
Baller879 aka Full court aka 2much knowledge.

Jig's up....

#CaughtHisAss

:lol

2ez

ImKobe
06-15-2022, 04:36 PM
Westbrook has more DWS than Lebron over the last 10 years.

Axe
06-15-2022, 04:58 PM
Baller879 aka Full court aka 2much knowledge.

Jig's up....
Rat poison

Full Court
06-15-2022, 05:51 PM
Baller879 aka Full court aka 2much knowledge.

Jig's up....

:biggums:

Nice try, Bronie Boy. :roll:

Full Court
06-15-2022, 05:51 PM
Rat poison

Dingus.

Axe
06-15-2022, 06:42 PM
Response? Or are we done here :lol
:roll:

No proper answer, slick. What a stupid obsessed loser. Just like his idol/lord 3ball.

Baller789
06-15-2022, 06:53 PM
Baller879 aka Full court aka 2much knowledge.

Jig's up....


#CaughtHisAss

:lol

2ez

You are so obvious :roll:

Full Court
06-15-2022, 07:57 PM
OP gets bodybagged by 3ball, and has absolutely nothing for him, so he resorts to asking the same question over and over again. :lol

The Bronies' damage control threads are pure entertainment - pathetic though they are.

zeerghit
06-15-2022, 08:07 PM
OP gets bodybagged by 3ball, and has absolutely nothing for him, so he resorts to asking the same question over and over again. :lol

The Bronies' damage control threads are pure entertainment - pathetic though they are.

wipe ur face

Full Court
06-15-2022, 08:07 PM
wipe ur face

Good one, genius.

:biggums:

zeerghit
06-15-2022, 08:16 PM
Good one, genius.

:biggums:

this emote is exactly what we talking about..

Full Court
06-15-2022, 08:42 PM
this emote is exactly what we talking about..

If the shoe fits, wear it, snowflake.

:biggums:

Shooter
06-15-2022, 11:01 PM
wipe ur face

:roll::roll:

zeerghit
06-16-2022, 01:06 PM
If the shoe fits, wear it, snowflake.

:biggums:

Its like prostitute calling stripper bi*ch

FromDowntown
06-16-2022, 09:24 PM
wipe ur face

:oldlol:

Axe
06-16-2022, 09:26 PM
wipe ur face
:lol

Full Court
06-16-2022, 11:39 PM
Its like prostitute calling stripper bi*ch


:oldlol:


:lol


:roll::roll:

Bronies are the most easily triggered bunch in the world. It's not even a challenge. :lol