Curry 4 rings and 1 FMVP means he is better than Lebron

[90sgoat]

Same team, same system, same coach, ups and downs, trials and tribulations, injuries and new players.

Curry is obviously the player of the 10s, so why should we give Lebron the credit for 2 rings with the Heatles, 1 ring with Cavs and 1 bubble ring with stacked Lakers?

There's just no way.

It's not as impressive, no way.

Imagine if Curry runs it back and wins another. Anyone really going to claim Lebron has done anything impressive?

Lebron's a media manufactured fraud.

[SATAN]

This thread has already been made several times in the past 24 hours. Lock it up, mods.

[plowking]

Same team, same system, same coach, ups and downs, trials and tribulations, injuries and new players.

Curry is obviously the player of the 10s, so why should we give Lebron the credit for 2 rings with the Heatles, 1 ring with Cavs and 1 bubble ring with stacked Lakers?

There's just no way.

It's not as impressive, no way.

Imagine if Curry runs it back and wins another. Anyone really going to claim Lebron has done anything impressive?

Lebron's a media manufactured fraud.

LeBron has been a top 3 player in the league for nearly 20 seasons... Let that sink in. Media manufactured...

I don't even get why people try and have these stupid takes they don't actually believe.

I'm not even a big fan of LeBron outside of his time at my team Miami... but to deny he is anything but a top 3 player ever is just stupidity.

[kawhileonard2]

Same team, same system, same coach, ups and downs, trials and tribulations, injuries and new players.

Curry is obviously the player of the 10s, so why should we give Lebron the credit for 2 rings with the Heatles, 1 ring with Cavs and 1 bubble ring with stacked Lakers?

There's just no way.

It's not as impressive, no way.

Imagine if Curry runs it back and wins another. Anyone really going to claim Lebron has done anything impressive?

Lebron's a media manufactured fraud.

Good post!

[TheGoatest]

No, but he did tie Cedric Maxwell, Jo Jo White and Andre Iguodala. Congratulations to him on that.

[Shooter]

No, but he did tie Cedric Maxwell, Jo Jo White and Andre Iguodala. Congratulations to him on that.

:roll:

[red1]

lbj never had a single coach as good as kerr

my guy got spoelstra two rings, got vogel a ring, and got lue a ring


won on 3 different franchises


only player in NBA history with a finals MVP on THREE different franchises.




lebron IS the system.

[coastalmarker99]

Lebron was basically a one-man dynasty from 2011 to 2020.


The Cavs were basically helpless without him as they were 4 and 23 with Kyrie and Love when Lebron didn't play.


And here are the Cavs with LeBron on court and off court per 100 possessions:

Regular season

2015: +10.9 on, -5.8 off, +16.7 on-off

2016: +11.4 on, -4.7 off, +16.1 on-off

2017: +8.3 on, -8.8 off, +17.1 on-off

Playoffs:

2015: +4.3 ON, +.8 OFF, +3.5 ON-OFF

2016: +13.4 ON, -6.4 OFF, +20.0 ON-OFF

2017: +13.0 ON, -19.2 OFF, +32.2 ON-OFF


As for the Heat Wade was basically a net negative in 2013 and 2014.

As here is the 2013 Heat ORtg with LeBron on, Wade off in the playoffs

2013 Heat ORtg vs. Bucks with LeBron on court 115.1

2013 Heat ORtg vs. Bucks with LeBron On, Wade off: 116.8

2013 Heat ORtg vs. Bulls with LeBron on court: 110.1

2013 Heat ORtg vs. Bulls with LeBron on court, Wade off: 118.2

2013 Heat ORtg vs. Pacers with LeBron ON court: 110.6

2013 Heat ORtg vs. Pacers with LeBron on court, Wade off: 121.2

2013 Heat ORtg vs. Spurs with LeBron on court: 106.7

2013 Heat ORtg vs. Spurs with LeBron on court, Wade off: 131.3

[Axe]

Wow 8-straight finals? Something that wilt could only dream of.

[coastalmarker99]

Check out the offensive performance of those so-called super teams without Lebron on the court.

LeBron’s Offensive ON-OFF (stats.nba.com for seasons 2008-2022; BKREF for seasons 2005-2007)

2010: 114.0 on, 97.3 off, +16.7 on-off

2009: 114.0 on, 97.9 off, +16.1 on-off

2017: 116.7 on, 100.6 off, +16.1 on-off

2016: 114.0 on, 98.6 off, +15.4 on-off

2008: 107.2 on, 93.0 off, +14.2 on-off

2012: 108.6 on, 94.4 off, +14.2 on-off

2013: 114.2 on, 100.7 off, +13.5 on-off

2015: 113.8 on, 100.3 off, +13.5 on-off

2006: 109.8 on, 96.8 off, +13.0 on-off

2014: 113.2 on, 101.2 off, +12.0 on-off

2018: 113.7 on, 102.5 off, +11.2 on-off

2007: 107.6 on, 99.9 off, +7.7 on-off

2011: 111.5 on, 104.0 off, +7.5 on-off

2005: 107.6 on, 100.5 off, +7.1 on-off

2020: 112.1 on, 105.2 off, +6.9 on-off

2021: 112.4 on 105.8 off, +6.6 on-off

2004: 102.5 on, 96.4 off, +6.1 on-off

2019: 109.6 on, 103.6 off, +6.0 on-off

[tpols]

If the pandemic taught us anything its that most people are extremely gullible and will believe anything said to them by major media outlets if it is repeated to them enough times.

Lebrons team this year had way way way better title odds than the warriors to start the season. Warriors were only +1100 which was 10x less than the number one pre season favorite. And yet Curry led a title team with no superstar help and LeBron led an 11 seed.

Its just night and day. Curry just makes teammates better in a way LeBron never could.

[Axe]

If the pandemic taught us anything its that most people are extremely gullible and will believe anything said to them by major media outlets if it is repeated to them enough times.

Lebrons team this year had way way way better title odds than the warriors to start the season. Warriors were only +1100 which was 10x less than the number one pre season favorite. And yet Curry led a title team with no superstar help and LeBron led an 11 seed.

Its just night and day. Curry just makes teammates better in a way LeBron never could.
Yet curry was ringless before steve kerr, who got five rings already as a player.

[red1]

If the pandemic taught us anything its that most people are extremely gullible and will believe anything said to them by major media outlets if it is repeated to them enough times.

Lebrons team this year had way way way better title odds than the warriors to start the season. Warriors were only +1100 which was 10x less than the number one pre season favorite. And yet Curry led a title team with no superstar help and LeBron led an 11 seed.

Its just night and day. Curry just makes teammates better in a way LeBron never could.

lebron.


kobe.


curry.



just stop my guy. that one ended years ago.

[tpols]

lebron.


kobe.


curry.



just stop my guy. that one ended years ago.

You see I make arguments based on fact and context. You just... never make any logical arguments.

I'm not trying to be mean but you have the debate skills of a 3rd grader.

If you were a lawyer trying to defend somebody you'd just yell at the judge... "My client is innocent!"

"How so?"

"My client is innocent!"

:oldlol: :facepalm

[red1]

You see I make arguments based on fact and context. You just... never make any logical arguments.

I'm not trying to be mean but you have the debate skills of a 3rd grader.

If you were a lawyer trying to defend somebody you'd just yell at the judge... "My client is innocent!"

"How so?"

"My client is innocent!"

:oldlol: :facepalm

actually no I just remember the arguments I had with you.

I have very good memory and it helps me succeed in life.

you're just a kobe stan that does nothing but hate.


so Im reminding you that you lost your campaign. everyone on earth even the biggest haters know that lebron is better than kobe.


its over.

[red1]

remember? you guys used to say ringless? not a winner?


won twice as many finals MVPs as your guy kobe.

[Shooter]

You see I make arguments based on fact and context. You just... never make any logical arguments.

I'm not trying to be mean but you have the debate skills of a 3rd grader.

If you were a lawyer trying to defend somebody you'd just yell at the judge... "My client is innocent!"

"How so?"

"My client is innocent!"

:oldlol: :facepalm

Did you wake up from a 2010 time capsule brother? It's 2022. A LOT has happened in the last 12 years :lol

LeBron is 1 or 2
Kobe is 12 or 13

[ShawkFactory]

If the pandemic taught us anything its that most people are extremely gullible and will believe anything said to them by major media outlets if it is repeated to them enough times.

Lebrons team this year had way way way better title odds than the warriors to start the season. Warriors were only +1100 which was 10x less than the number one pre season favorite. And yet Curry led a title team with no superstar help and LeBron led an 11 seed.

Its just night and day. Curry just makes teammates better in a way LeBron never could.

I don’t think anyone is saying that Lebron is better than Curry right now.

[red1]

If the pandemic taught us anything its that most people are extremely gullible and will believe anything said to them by major media outlets if it is repeated to them enough times.

Lebrons team this year had way way way better title odds than the warriors to start the season. Warriors were only +1100 which was 10x less than the number one pre season favorite. And yet Curry led a title team with no superstar help and LeBron led an 11 seed.

Its just night and day. Curry just makes teammates better in a way LeBron never could.

and now you're just hating on lebron by trying to say that curry is better when curry's own coach puts lebron over him.


thats just trolling so I'm going to troll you back.


the fact that you're holding 37 year old lebron with a gimpy non-playing star teammate to the same standards as prime kobe just shows how GOATed he is. people still treat late 30s lebron like a superstar in his prime. because thats the level that he's on.


37 year old ol' man james dropped 50 twice in the same week. he literally was the only player hooping for the lakers this year. ask any real laker fan.

[r15mohd]

You see I make arguments based on fact and context. You just... never make any logical arguments.

I'm not trying to be mean but you have the debate skills of a 3rd grader.

If you were a lawyer trying to defend somebody you'd just yell at the judge... "My client is innocent!"

"How so?"

"My client is innocent!"

:oldlol: :facepalm


context yet boasts the Lakers ending up 11th in the West, and no mention to why. seems you dont understand the definition of what context is, 'cuz had you, it would be noted of the significant injuries that took part on why the Lakers ended up where they did.

shouldnt down anyone's debating skills when yours seems to be same (or less IMO) based on this laughable rhetoric...lol, 'context'!!

[Axe]

37 year-old lebron saw him going 33-49 with the lakers.

Otoh, 37 year-old kobe saw him going 17-65 (worst in the league) with the same team.

A big difference.

[red1]

tpols: "lebron missed the playoffs and went 33 and 49 with AD"



AD didnt even play this year genius :oldlol:

[red1]

If the pandemic taught us anything its that most people are extremely gullible and will believe anything said to them by major media outlets if it is repeated to them enough times.

Lebrons team this year had way way way better title odds than the warriors to start the season. Warriors were only +1100 which was 10x less than the number one pre season favorite. And yet Curry led a title team with no superstar help and LeBron led an 11 seed.

Its just night and day. Curry just makes teammates better in a way LeBron never could.
this genius right here :roll:




did you even watch a single laker game this year?




lebron dropped 56 on these boys and was still balling like a player in his absolute prime - led the league in scoring most of the season...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAm3Q0Sm4Jg

[coastalmarker99]

LeBron vs Steph in the NBA Finals (22 games):

LeBron had 169 more points

LeBron had 124 more rebounds

LeBron had 67 more assists

LeBron had 4 more steals

LeBron had 19 more blocks

LeBron had 1 more Finals MVP


Lebron clearly was superior to Curry in all of their finals matchups and it is laughable for trolls like you to say Curry is better than Lebron.

[red1]

lets not forget the fact that curry literally cant get a shot off on lebron either



meanwhile lebron literally hunts and exploits curry every time he sees him on the perimeter

[Axe]

What's even funnier is that curry has already tied wilt in finals mvp count after the win in game six too. :oldlol:

[coastalmarker99]

Team A) LeBron-Klay-Draymond-Iguodala-Barnes-Livingston

VS

Team B) Steph-Dellavedova-JR-Shumpert-Mozgov-T. Thompson

Who wins this series?


team A) LeBron-Durant-Klay-Draymond-Iguodala-Livingston

VS

Team B) Steph-Love-Korver-JR Smith-Jeff Green-T. Thompson

Who wins?


Team leader in Points, Rebounds & Assists in NBA Finals:

2012: LeBron-LeBron-LeBron

2013: LeBron-LeBron-LeBron

2016: LeBron-LeBron-LeBron

2020: LeBron-LeBron-LeBron

2015: Steph-Draymond-Steph

2017: Durant-Draymond-Steph

2018: Durant-Durant-Draymond

2022: Steph-Wiggins-Draymond

[red1]

Team A) LeBron-Klay-Draymond-Iguodala-Barnes-Livingston

VS

Team B) Steph-Dellavedova-JR-Shumpert-Mozgov-T. Thompson

Who wins this series?


team A) LeBron-Durant-Klay-Draymond-Iguodala-Livingston

VS

Team B) Steph-Love-Korver-JR Smith-Jeff Green-T. Thompson

Who wins?


Team leader in Points, Rebounds & Assists in NBA Finals:

2012: LeBron-LeBron-LeBron

2013: LeBron-LeBron-LeBron

2016: LeBron-LeBron-LeBron

2020: LeBron-LeBron-LeBron

2015: Steph-Draymond-Steph

2017: Durant-Draymond-Steph

2018: Durant-Durant-Draymond

2022: Steph-Wiggins-Draymond

and then there's this - leading BOTH teams in EVERY. SINGLE. STAT.

never happened in any series, let alone in the NBA finals when down 3-1.


this shit aint even a debate anymore :oldlol:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5ZdHgnWQAUQ6MY.jpg