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2ball
06-20-2022, 09:41 PM
1) Dirk won 67 with no cast (07')
2) Dirk overcame goat talent deficit (11') - no star teammates vs 3 prime stars
3) Dirk carried a lottery cast (a team that was lottery the prior year) to a low seed and 7 games with the champs (14')


Compare to Lebron:

1) Lebron won 66 in the weaker East
2) Lebron only overcame a talent deficit once in 07' ECF (a smaller deficit than Dirk's 11'), while his Big 3 matched Curry's in 16'
3) Lebron failed 3 times to carry lottery casts to playoffs (04', 05', 19')*


*Lebron couldn't drag lottery casts to low seeds/underdog matchups in 1st Round, and only made playoffs with high seeds, good teams, and easy 1st round matchups - this inflated his early playoff resume compared to other stars who were good enough to carry lottery casts to low seeds and underdog 1st Rd matchups


CONCLUSION: Dirk carries teams better than Lebron and Lebron's carrying ability is vastly overrated (only made playoffs with high seeds/good teams, and 07' was his only time overcoming talent deficit, which was a smaller deficit than Dirk's 11' Finals)

Shooter
06-20-2022, 09:49 PM
7,631

2ball
06-20-2022, 10:15 PM
7,631

It’s funny, cuz LeBron could only achieve this by team hopping and stacking the deck. Not one of those points was organically achieved

Axe
06-20-2022, 10:16 PM
2/7

6-16

;)

Shooter
06-21-2022, 12:24 AM
It’s funny, cuz LeBron could only achieve this by team hopping and stacking the deck. Not one of those points was organically achieved

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It's done

TheGoatest
06-21-2022, 02:56 AM
Rookie Chuck Person with an all-star-less cast led his team to a .500 season in 1986-87
3rd year jordon with an all-star-less cast led his team to a sub-.500 season in 1986-87

Conclusion: 22 year-old rookie Chuck Person's “carrying” ability is greater than 24 year-old 3rd year in the league jordon's