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red1
06-21-2022, 08:20 PM
lebron made the NBA finals an incredible 10 times

played the warriors and the spurs a combined 7 times

thats legendary even if it was done in the weaker conference of the two


the best team that jordan ever beat in the NBA finals was the '91 lakers with a declined magic and with kareem not even on the team - ie a shell of the late 80's lakers. next best team would be the jazz with malone and stockton.



jordan never beat a single team as good as the spurs and warriors in the finals. meanwhile lebron ran into dynasty level teams and the undebatable most stacked team of all time in the kd curry klay dray iggy lakers. thats the western conference starting lineup right there.


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red1
06-21-2022, 08:21 PM
lebron is the only one of those legends in the first pic that won a championship for his hometown and the only player to win a finals MVP on two different franchises, let alone a never-to-be-surpassed THREE finals MVPs on THREE different franchises.



its a wrap boys. toss-up 1a 1b status.


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red1
06-21-2022, 08:24 PM
played the spurs and warriors a combined 7 times including the most stacked team of all time in the 2017-2018 warriors :roll:


still scalped them both and ended up with 4 rings :roll:

red1
06-21-2022, 08:29 PM
1-man dynasty


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Baller789
06-21-2022, 11:43 PM
Warriors werent even a dynasty.

red1
06-21-2022, 11:44 PM
Warrior werent even a dynasty.

look at how they dominated the western conference. 6 finals since 2015 thats making the finals every year except the year lebron got one in 2020 after moving to their conference.

their core of curry, klay, dray, iggy, kerr now all have 4 rings together.

plus a 73-9 regular season.


its over clown. certified dynasty.


lebron is the dynasty-scalper.


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Shooter
06-21-2022, 11:44 PM
Warriors werent even a dynasty.

I'll take low IQ statements for 1,000, red1.

Baller789
06-21-2022, 11:46 PM
I'll take low IQ statements for 1,000, red1.

How are they a dynasty?

red1
06-21-2022, 11:47 PM
How are they a dynasty?

6 finals and 4 rings in 7 years
absolutely dominated their conference
had a 73-9 regular season setting the all-time record



thats an undeniable dynasty. are you mentally retarded?

WhiteKyrie
06-21-2022, 11:49 PM
You’re holding it against Jordan that he won and made his team THE dynasty … and no other team could eat?

Fantastic logic.

Sidebar, he curb stomped the Bad Boy Pistons in 1991, who were a cuhnts hair off being a three peat team, who ended reigns of the 80s Celtics and Showtime Lakers abruptly.

Are all LeBron Stans this dumb?

Bawkish
06-21-2022, 11:50 PM
All those statements lifting Bron and putting down MJ and yet still conclude that they're 1a and 1b is oxymoronic

Baller789
06-21-2022, 11:50 PM
6 finals and 4 rings in 7 years
absolutely dominated their conference
had a 73-9 regular season setting the all-time record



thats an undeniable dynasty. are you mentally retarded?

Define the word dynasty.

red1
06-21-2022, 11:53 PM
You’re holding it against Jordan that he won and made his team the dynasty? Fantastic logic.

Sidebar, he curb stomped the Bad Boy Pistons in 1991, who were a cuhnts hair off being a three peat team, who ended reigns of the 80s Celtics and Showtime Lakers abruptly.

Are all LeBron Stans this dumb?

nah I'm holding it against a few specific trolls who love jordan's finals record and were obsessed with the 3-6 narrative -
btw that 3-6 shit completely lost its ring because 4-6 is actually respectable despite the incredible odds being stacked against him.


its a fact that baldan played FAR weaker competition than leGOAT.

red1
06-21-2022, 11:56 PM
All those statements lifting Bron and putting down MJ and yet still conclude that they're 1a and 1b is oxymoronic

Im doing it because I know it hurts a few mythologizing fanboys - got tired of beating up kobe fans behind the school and now I have jordan mythologizers in a headlock.


I would destroy skip in a debate. sometimes I wish shannon would stop being so nice - its not smart to clown your meal-ticket so I get why he doesnt expose him. :oldlol:

Baller789
06-22-2022, 12:00 AM
Im doing it because I know it hurts a few mythologizing fanboys - got tired of beating up kobe fans behind the school and now I have jordan mythologizers in a headlock.


I would destroy skip in a debate. sometimes I wish shannon would stop being so nice - its not smart to clown your meal-ticket so I get why he doesnt expose him. :oldlol:

Still waiting for the definition of the word dynasty...

red1
06-22-2022, 12:03 AM
Still waiting for the definition of the word dynasty...

I posted it twice you illiterate ****.


let me post it for you again.

red1
06-22-2022, 12:04 AM
6 finals and 4 rings in 7 years
absolutely dominated their conference
had a 73-9 regular season setting the all-time record

THAT is the definition of a dynasty.


more rings than the kobe and shaq duo.

Baller789
06-22-2022, 12:10 AM
I posted it twice you illiterate ****.


let me post it for you again.

Is every back to back champion a dynasty?

red1
06-22-2022, 12:13 AM
Is every back to back champion a dynasty?

no you retard. I see where you're going with this.



6 finals and 4 rings in 7 years
absolutely dominated their conference
had a 73-9 regular season setting the all-time record

THAT is a dynasty.

kawhileonard2
06-22-2022, 12:15 AM
Steph Curry era. Won 4 titles and loss 2. Lebron switched teams 4 times and won 4 titles and loss titles and was favorite in 7 out of 10 finals.

Shooter
06-22-2022, 12:23 AM
6 finals and 4 rings in 7 years
absolutely dominated their conference
had a 73-9 regular season setting the all-time record



thats an undeniable dynasty. are you mentally retarded?

2ez

Line em up and shootem down

BANG!

Baller789
06-22-2022, 12:23 AM
no you retard. I see where you're going with this.




THAT is a dynasty.

dy·nas·ty
/ˈdīnəstē/
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noun
a line of hereditary rulers of a country.
"the Tang dynasty"
Similar:
bloodline
line
ancestral line
lineage
house
family
ancestry
descent
extraction
succession
genealogy
family tree
regime
rule
reign
dominion
empire
sovereignty
ascendancy
government
authority
administration
jurisdiction
a succession of people from the same family who play a prominent role in business, politics, or another field.

Key word is succession. So if the Warriors are a dynasty by definition, so were the Heatles. So is every other back to back champions.

red1
06-22-2022, 12:28 AM
man they aint got shit.


these kids are retarded.

kawhileonard2
06-22-2022, 12:31 AM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for

Baller789
06-22-2022, 12:53 AM
man they aint got shit.


these kids are retarded.

Explain

red1
06-22-2022, 12:54 AM
Explain

sure.


warriors and spurs are both dynasties.


what team do you root for and where do you live?



explain.

Baller789
06-22-2022, 12:56 AM
sure.


warriors and spurs are both dynasties.


what team do you root for and where do you live?



explain.

I gave you the dictionary definition of dynasty.

So were the Heatles a dynasty?

red1
06-22-2022, 12:57 AM
I gave you the dictionary definition of dynasty.

So were the Heatles a dynasty?

I answered your questions.

now you answer mine.



where do you live and what team do you root for?

red1
06-22-2022, 12:57 AM
sure.


warriors and spurs are both dynasties.


what team do you root for and where do you live?



explain.

???

Baller789
06-22-2022, 12:59 AM
I answered your questions.

now you answer mine.



where do you live and what team do you root for?

So your constant deflections and inconsistent logic only shows all you have are opinions.

:confusedshrug:

red1
06-22-2022, 01:02 AM
So your constant deflections and inconsistent logic only shows all you have are opinions.

:confusedshrug:

weak.



you lost.




keep following us around virgin :oldlol:

red1
06-22-2022, 01:03 AM
mans on a basketball message board and doesnt even have a team just obsesses about one player - that he doesnt even like


talk about throwing your life away :oldlol:

kawhileonard2
06-22-2022, 01:05 AM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for

Shooter
06-22-2022, 01:11 AM
So your constant deflections and inconsistent logic only shows all you have are opinions.

:confusedshrug:

where do you live and what team do you root for?

Baller789
06-22-2022, 01:12 AM
weak.



you lost.




keep following us around virgin :oldlol:

Why would it be weak when you cant even substantiate your own argument?

Its your definition of dynasty that has no legs to stand on.

WhiteKyrie
06-22-2022, 01:13 AM
mans on a basketball message board and doesnt even have a team just obsesses about one player - that he doesnt even like


talk about throwing your life away :oldlol:
What about creating threads to purposely engage them? That doesn’t seem like throwing your life away even more so?

Or is this like your upside down back assward perspective on “dynasties” and why one can’t face a dynasty when they are busy being the dynasty?

IE because per its definition, a powerful group or family that maintains its position for a considerable time. Two dynasties can’t face one another.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Insane Stupid Headquarters aka ISH

red1
06-22-2022, 01:14 AM
What about creating threads to purposely engage them? That doesn’t seem like throwing your life away?

Or is this like your upside down back assward perspective on “dynasties” and why one can’t face a dynasty when they are busy being the dynasty.

IE per its definition, a powerful group or family that maintains its position for a considerable time.

Inside Stupid Headquarters aka ISH

im working in my home office right now planning the rest of the week while I watch basketball highlights in the background.


about to hit the weights in my basement before I pass out and wake up 8:30am to clock in (not actually clocking in, I use microsoft teams to run the business and we're all logged in from 8:30am until 5pm and then leave early at 2pm on Fridays) and attack my day



the joys of working from home

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red1
06-22-2022, 01:17 AM
Why would it be weak when you cant even substantiate your own argument?

Its your definition of dynasty that has no legs to stand on.

who do you think is right yall

are the warriors and spurs dynasties yes or no?


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Baller789
06-22-2022, 01:17 AM
What about creating threads to purposely engage them? That doesn’t seem like throwing your life away even more so?

Or is this like your upside down back assward perspective on “dynasties” and why one can’t face a dynasty when they are busy being the dynasty?

IE because per its definition, a powerful group or family that maintains its position for a considerable time. Two dynasties can’t face one another.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Insane Stupid Headquarters aka ISH

Oh the double standards :roll:

1987_Lakers
06-22-2022, 01:18 AM
Warriors werent even a dynasty.

Low IQ confirmed.

kawhileonard2
06-22-2022, 01:19 AM
Need an answer on each thread below.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371

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red1
06-22-2022, 01:19 AM
meanwhile we STILL dont know his team or where he lives - all we know is that he follows the fam around like a little dog :oldlol:


I closed a deal while I was posting online today.


ehhh I know it doesnt mean anything to you and who cares really. I'm going to make $1k USD on it ($18k usd x.06).

WhiteKyrie
06-22-2022, 01:20 AM
I don’t get how one could be a Raptors fan and a LeBron fan simultaneously?

That would be like a cuck actively cheering on a man while he bangs the cuck’s wife.

Very odd to say the least.

red1
06-22-2022, 01:21 AM
I always get paid USD on all of my commissions.


Im no billionaire (no lebron) but I do alright


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red1
06-22-2022, 01:23 AM
I don’t get how one could be a Raptors fan and a LeBron fan simultaneously?

That would be like a cuck actively cheering on a man while he bangs the cuck’s wife.

Very odd to say the least.

I was a lebron fan since he was drafted 2003, I preferred him over melo. so before any cavs raptors series ever.

and lebron actually indirectly got the raptors a ring.


no way we roll the dice on the kawhi trade if we didnt realize how good he was. we got lucky that kawhi wasnt a gimp that year.


lebron literally got the raptors a ring too :roll:

WhiteKyrie
06-22-2022, 01:24 AM
I feel the barometer for dynasty should mandatory include at least one three peat, TBH.

With that said the current Warriors are a dynasty. The golden dynasty. Best team and franchise since Jordan’s Bulls.

6 Finals trips in 8 years, winning 4 of them in that span. Came shades close to winning in 2016 and 2019 if it wasn’t for the KD and Klay injuries.

This isn’t some very good franchise who scoops up vulture championships when a defending champion finally gets burnt out ala the Pop and Duncan Spurs every once in awhile.

kawhileonard2
06-22-2022, 01:24 AM
Need an answer on each thread below.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371

https://media0.giphy.com/media/l0ErLeqamV3UOARsA/giphy.gif

Man

Shooter
06-22-2022, 01:29 AM
I feel the barometer for dynasty should mandatory include at least one three peat, TBH.

With that said the current Warriors are a dynasty. The golden dynasty. Best team and franchise since Jordan’s Bulls.

6 Finals trips in 8 years, winning 4 of them in that span. Came shades close to winning in 2016 and 2019 if it wasn’t for the KD and Klay injuries.

This isn’t some very good franchise who scoops up vulture championships when a defending champion finally gets burnt out ala the Pop and Duncan Spurs every once in awhile.

You think 3 Finals and a 3 peat is better than 8 Finals and winning 4? :lol

What kind of retard logic is this?

WhiteKyrie
06-22-2022, 01:35 AM
You think 3 Finals and a 3 peat is better than 8 Finals and winning 4? :lol

What kind of retard logic is this?

Better? First of all, you must be super duper slow, because that was never stated.

A dynasty is a succession of rule, per the definition. Thus the importance on three peat via the definition.

And yes IMO winning three in a row is most difficult. It’s so rarely happened. It’s harder to deal without all those circumstances and defending your throne year, after year and being motivated to do it.

The Warriors run has been impressive, did you not read the rest of my post where I said they’re definitely a dynasty? Or did you just read the first sentence and have an emotional melt down?

4 in 8 years is great. They were a couple injuries short of three praying. Even though when considering the Warriors for a long period there had basically an unfair disproportionate level of talent on their team, with Steph and KD, where no one should’ve stood a chance anyway. They’re definitely a dynasty.

PWB15
06-22-2022, 01:43 AM
The Spurs wasnt a dynasty either. When they played the Heat their last title was in 2007 LOL

Good Night

Akeem34TheDream
06-22-2022, 02:39 AM
red1 are you ok? Why are you spamming?

TheGoatest
06-22-2022, 02:40 AM
The 90s Bulls played in a historically dynasty-less period in league history. jordon's existence did not prevent a single dynasty from taking place.
The closest thing to a dynasty in the 90s were the repeat Rockets, and we all know where jordon was when they won:

https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r/2020/04/20/de69d793-fe9e-41d0-a36e-a275bd9385cd/thumbnail/1200x675/7b27769809fb8d598fbddc6180d136f7/michael-jordan-golf.jpg

Baller789
06-22-2022, 03:19 AM
Low IQ confirmed.

Not really.

Because your one liner sure looks low iq. :cry:

Baller789
06-22-2022, 04:19 AM
The 90s Bulls played in a historically dynasty-less period in league history. jordon's existence did not prevent a single dynasty from taking place.
The closest thing to a dynasty in the 90s were the repeat Rockets, and we all know where jordon was when they won:

https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r/2020/04/20/de69d793-fe9e-41d0-a36e-a275bd9385cd/thumbnail/1200x675/7b27769809fb8d598fbddc6180d136f7/michael-jordan-golf.jpg

This so contradicting its so stupid in all of the multiverses. :lol


Gotta step up your game 8ball.:lol

Spurs m8
06-22-2022, 05:06 AM
I feel the barometer for dynasty should mandatory include at least one three peat, TBH.

With that said the current Warriors are a dynasty. The golden dynasty. Best team and franchise since Jordan’s Bulls.

6 Finals trips in 8 years, winning 4 of them in that span. Came shades close to winning in 2016 and 2019 if it wasn’t for the KD and Klay injuries.

This isn’t some very good franchise who scoops up vulture championships when a defending champion finally gets burnt out ala the Pop and Duncan Spurs every once in awhile.

That last part isn't even true lol
Or even debatable
Weird post

Axe
06-22-2022, 08:17 AM
lebron made the NBA finals an incredible 10 times

played the warriors and the spurs a combined 7 times

thats legendary even if it was done in the weaker conference of the two


the best team that jordan ever beat in the NBA finals was the '91 lakers with a declined magic and with kareem not even on the team - ie a shell of the late 80's lakers. next best team would be the jazz with malone and stockton.



jordan never beat a single team as good as the spurs and warriors in the finals. meanwhile lebron ran into dynasty level teams and the undebatable most stacked team of all time in the kd curry klay dray iggy lakers. thats the western conference starting lineup right there.


http://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/23172.jpeg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkGW2LaU8AAfwbQ.jpg
https://c.tenor.com/bJNzCpITlXEAAAAC/what-ice-cube.gif

WhiteKyrie
06-22-2022, 08:23 AM
That last part isn't even true lol
Or even debatable
Weird post
No that’s the Spurs. Sustained very good but not great quality over a lengthy amount of time. Never dominant. Never a dynasty. 1999 (about as bad of a ring as they come next to 2020) then 2003, then 2005, then 2007, then 2014. Their best stretch there was winning a championship every other year. Never went back to back even once.

Baller789
06-22-2022, 08:27 AM
I feel the barometer for dynasty should mandatory include at least one three peat, TBH.

With that said the current Warriors are a dynasty. The golden dynasty. Best team and franchise since Jordan’s Bulls.

6 Finals trips in 8 years, winning 4 of them in that span. Came shades close to winning in 2016 and 2019 if it wasn’t for the KD and Klay injuries.

This isn’t some very good franchise who scoops up vulture championships when a defending champion finally gets burnt out ala the Pop and Duncan Spurs every once in awhile.

Agreed. A 3-peat is necessary.

But if we go by the correct definition, all back2back champions should also be considered a dynasty. But that cheapens the term.

I would rather call the Warriors a "golden generation" kind of team rather than a proper dynasty.

red1
06-22-2022, 09:39 AM
red1 are you ok? Why are you spamming?

im just proving a point to one poster :oldlol:

Bacchus
06-22-2022, 12:19 PM
Lebron went 2-5 against those dynasties and was lucky that Green got suspended for one game.

Bacchus
06-22-2022, 12:25 PM
Lebrons record in the finals against those dynasties is 11-22

3ba11
06-22-2022, 12:27 PM
Lebrons record in the finals against those dynasties is 11-22

And most of that is with super-teams and preseason favorites.. Lebron had the preseason favorite from 2011-2016

red1
06-22-2022, 12:30 PM
And most of that is with super-teams and preseason favorites.. Lebron had the preseason favorite from 2011-2016

you aint got shit bro


I own your soul.


no logic, no humility, just spam spam spam.




like I always say - suck my dick 3ball. its over. I was right - you were wrong. :oldlol:

red1
06-22-2022, 12:31 PM
3ball: lebron can never win a ring. he's just not a good enough player, kg and moses malone are better talents.


3ball years later: hurr durr lebron won buh buh they dont count not fair




thats not a debate style my guy.

3ba11
06-22-2022, 12:57 PM
3ball: lebron can never win a ring. he's just not a good enough player, kg and moses malone are better talents.


3ball years later: hurr durr lebron won buh buh they dont count not fair




thats not a debate style my guy.


Lebron is 2/4 with Wade (goat choke.. record loss)

1/3 with Kyrie (record loss)

1/3 with AD (lottery in 22'.. 1st Round in 21.. lottery in 19')

Only Lebron mostly lost with 3 different teams

Hey Yo
06-22-2022, 01:12 PM
And most of that is with super-teams and preseason favorites.. Lebron had the preseason favorite from 2011-2016

MJ was the favorite in 1994 yet he didn't win one game.


:oldlol:

Hey Yo
06-22-2022, 01:15 PM
Lebron is 2/4 with Wade (goat choke.. record loss)

1/3 with Kyrie (record loss)

1/3 with AD (lottery in 22'.. 1st Round in 21.. lottery in 19')

Only Lebron mostly lost with 3 different teams

Wade in 2014... 88 offensive rating, 120 defensive rating for a whopping 7.9 game score.

RogueBorg
06-22-2022, 03:30 PM
So in 2019-20 the Warriors were 15-50 and didn’t make the playoffs and 2020-21 they didn’t make the playoffs…and this is a dynasty?

FKAri
06-22-2022, 03:34 PM
So in 2019-20 the Warriors were 15-50 and didn’t make the playoffs and 2020-21 they didn’t make the playoffs…and this is a dynasty?

Think of it like MJ's baseball sabbatical. A year off + a year with a failed comeback. Then back into the groove.

RogueBorg
06-22-2022, 03:35 PM
who do you think is right yall

are the warriors and spurs dynasties yes or no?


https://c.tenor.com/S2G-QZk-Vz0AAAAM/michael-jordan-laughing.gif

No, the 2013 Spurs were not a dynasty.

RogueBorg
06-22-2022, 03:36 PM
Think of it like MJ's baseball sabbatical. A year off + a year with a failed comeback. Then back into the groove.

The Bulls were 2 dynasties

dazzer87
06-22-2022, 03:37 PM
LeStats is the reason why GSW is a Dynasty…….1-3 :(:(:(

bison
06-22-2022, 03:55 PM
So Lebron has a losing record against dynasties, and even worse is that this is a distraction from the fact that Lebron is unable to ever lead a dynasty on his own. A dynasty is rare. Jordan, Kobe, Duncan were able to play team ball and sustain a high level of chemistry with their teammates which lead to dynasties. Lebron on the other hand, destroys franchises. You will be lucky to get one chip from lebron, but he will leave your team in shambles for the next 10 years once he splits to his next collusion project, like a cancer looking for his next victim.

red1
06-22-2022, 04:20 PM
after reviewing all of your posts in this thread very carefully I have no choice but to conclude this ANOTHER dub for the fam


thank you for your participation this thread is now closed.


https://c.tenor.com/cqLFS9f6xJMAAAAC/vince-carter-its-over.gif

RRR3
06-22-2022, 04:28 PM
after reviewing all of your posts in this thread very carefully I have no choice but to conclude this ANOTHER dub for the fam


thank you for your participation this thread is now closed.


https://c.tenor.com/cqLFS9f6xJMAAAAC/vince-carter-its-over.gif
Indeed. The usual butthurt haters with their usual tears, but it’s all just background noise for the LeBron fam.

Axe
06-22-2022, 07:18 PM
No that’s the Spurs. Sustained very good but not great quality over a lengthy amount of time. Never dominant. Never a dynasty. 1999 (about as bad of a ring as they come next to 2020) then 2003, then 2005, then 2007, then 2014. Their best stretch there was winning a championship every other year. Never went back to back even once.
They never three-peated tho so ofc, they'll never be a dynasty. :lol

guy
06-22-2022, 09:08 PM
You’re holding it against Jordan that he won and made his team THE dynasty … and no other team could eat?

Fantastic logic.

Sidebar, he curb stomped the Bad Boy Pistons in 1991, who were a cuhnts hair off being a three peat team, who ended reigns of the 80s Celtics and Showtime Lakers abruptly.

Are all LeBron Stans this dumb?

What’s even worse is 5 of their combined 9 rings came at the expense of Lebron and that’s supposed to lift him up? They aren’t a dynasty if Lebron is winning those but somehow they would’ve been weaker as a result? :hammerhead:

red1
06-22-2022, 09:17 PM
What’s even worse is 5 of their combined 9 rings came at the expense of Lebron and that’s supposed to lift him up? They aren’t a dynasty if Lebron is winning those but somehow they would’ve been weaker as a result? :hammerhead:

did you even look at the vegas odds? :oldlol:


lebron is the GOAT floor-raiser - my guy carried teams that had NO business making it that far




you're crazy if you think any other player in NBA history is taking the 2007 and 2018 cavs to the finals




we dont even need to mention the fact that lebron was an underdog in SEVEN of the finals that he made. thats what happens when you play the literal most stacked teams of all-time.




underdog GOAT - and the blessing is that he will always be the only player in NBA history to have a finals MVP over a 70-win team

Johnny32
06-22-2022, 09:55 PM
window licker has no clue what the 91 pistons were if he thinks they were close to 3-peating lol.

Johnny32
06-22-2022, 10:01 PM
THOMAS' INJURY SIGNALS FINISH OF PISTONS' REIGN

Their chances of winning the Eastern Conference championship - or even the Central Division title - may have vanished the instant the announcement was made that Thomas would be reporting to sick bay instead of the scorer's table for the next three months.

Journeyman veteran John Long, his temporary replacement, isn't the answer. Super-sub guard Vinnie Johnson, 34, missed all of training camp and hasn't recovered. At the start of the week he was barely shooting 40 percent. GM Jack McCloskey may have to make a trade.

Thomas will be back just in time for the playoffs, the Pistons say, but how much damage will have been done by then? Surely the Pistons will have lost the home-court advantage. Surely the offense won't be clicking. Surely Michael Jordan and the Bulls will be salivating over their new-found prospects to unseat the champs.

random beat writer in orlando knew det was done 3+ months before the playoffs even started.

Vragrant
06-22-2022, 11:02 PM
The difference is, Lebron played dynasties and MJ WAS the dynasty. Despite Lebrons' talents he was never able to establish or sustain a dynasty despite playing with the best talent the league had to offer over the last decade.

red1
06-22-2022, 11:04 PM
The difference is, Lebron played dynasties and MJ WAS the dynasty. Despite Lebrons' talents he was never able to establish or sustain a dynasty despite playing with the best talent the league had to offer over the last decade.

but he was a dynasty playing against WHO?


anyone can be a dynasty if they are playing the jazz back-to-back :oldlol:



hornacek the best perimeter player they had :oldlol:

red1
06-22-2022, 11:06 PM
:roll:

shoutout shooter for the pic - confirming what we already knew :roll:

https://i.postimg.cc/k5pXdN5h/Rivalry-Decade.jpg
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2896346-br-nba-staff-the-biggest-rivalries-of-every-nba-decade

red1
06-22-2022, 11:07 PM
lebron will always be the only player in NBA history to scalp a 70-win team winning a finals MVP doing so.

2much_knowledge
06-22-2022, 11:08 PM
You’re holding it against Jordan that he won and made his team THE dynasty … and no other team could eat?

Fantastic logic.

Sidebar, he curb stomped the Bad Boy Pistons in 1991, who were a cuhnts hair off being a three peat team, who ended reigns of the 80s Celtics and Showtime Lakers abruptly.

Are all LeBron Stans this dumb?

Short answer. YES!

red1
06-22-2022, 11:08 PM
jordan's biggest rivalry was against a grocery-bagger :roll:

https://thesportsrush.com/nba-news-john-starks-went-from-bagging-groceries-to-dunking-on-michael-jordan-knicks-legends-journey-is-one-of-the-biggest-inspirational-stories-in-nba-history/

red1
06-22-2022, 11:09 PM
Short answer. YES!

I'm just interested in preserving the historical record.


Steve Kerr, jordan's own teammate, already agreed with me - jordan is NOT better than lebron:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MG8wjJNdf4&ab_channel=ESPN

2much_knowledge
06-22-2022, 11:11 PM
Newsflash. Not every team that you meet in the finals are the best team.

Chicago was the dynasty

Reply me when San antonio or Golden state 3 peats once at least. Heck , San antonio couldnt even repeat.

Laughable thread

Shooter
06-22-2022, 11:15 PM
:roll:

shoutout shooter for the pic - confirming what we already knew :roll:

https://i.postimg.cc/k5pXdN5h/Rivalry-Decade.jpg
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2896346-br-nba-staff-the-biggest-rivalries-of-every-nba-decade

THROW the DAMN TOWEL :lol

https://i.postimg.cc/0Q6YQT1B/tenor.gif

red1
06-22-2022, 11:18 PM
THROW the DAMN TOWEL :lol

https://i.postimg.cc/0Q6YQT1B/tenor.gif

dude - draymond called kd and literally got two of the GOAT players of the era to stack the deck against leGOAT - exactly what the leGOAT's haters have been accusing him of when he was carrying shitty teams and getting ganged up on by the 07 spurs and 08 celtics


and then curry and kd aka his rivals' own coach, kerr, came out and said lebron is the GOAT - after his own players SWEPT the GOAT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MG8wjJNdf4&t=1s&ab_channel=ESPN

this shit isn't even funny anymore how lopsided it is. :roll:

red1
06-22-2022, 11:21 PM
Newsflash. Not every team that you meet in the finals are the best team.

Chicago was the dynasty

Reply me when San antonio or Golden state 3 peats once at least. Heck , San antonio couldnt even repeat.

Laughable thread

how does that address any of the points being made here....

Shooter
06-22-2022, 11:21 PM
dude - draymond called kd and literally got two of the GOAT players of the era to stack the deck against leGOAT - exactly what the leGOAT's haters have been accusing him of when he was carrying shitty teams and getting ganged up on by the 07 spurs and 08 celtics


and then curry and kd aka his rivals' own coach, kerr, came out and said lebron is the GOAT - after his own players SWEPT the GOAT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MG8wjJNdf4&t=1s&ab_channel=ESPN

this shit isn't even funny anymore how lopsided it is. :roll:

I believe we call this a bloodbath :lol

red1 out here putting body bags inside of body bags :roll::roll:

red1
06-22-2022, 11:31 PM
I believe we call this a bloodbath :lol

red1 out here putting body bags inside of body bags :roll::roll:

its note even a debate anymore.


double bagged the body-bag that these bitch-ass ******* put themselves in

2much_knowledge
06-22-2022, 11:48 PM
how does that address any of the points being made here....

If you cant figure out that yourself.....

Axe
06-27-2022, 08:10 AM
Low IQ confirmed.
Poor thing.

Baller789
06-27-2022, 09:44 AM
Which dynasties did Lebron played more times again in the Finals OP?

red1
06-27-2022, 09:46 AM
Which dynasties did Lebron played more times again in the Finals OP?

speak english you illiterate bitch


4 finals MVPs and a finals MVP over a 70-win team.



GOAT.

Baller789
06-27-2022, 09:50 AM
Which dynasties did Lebron played more times again in the Finals OP?


speak english you illiterate bitch


4 finals MVPs and a finals MVP over a 70-win team.



GOAT.

Which dynasties are you talking about?

Listen, I know youre frustrated and angry right now since I've totally obliterated your thread's premise. :oldlol:

Now youre trying to move the goalposts. :(

red1
06-27-2022, 09:53 AM
got these lil guys down bad


how are these kids gonna argue that the spurs and warriors aren't dynasties. absolute mental retardation.



they've been scrambling hard since the 3-6 jokes :roll:


keep crying lil bitch.


this is the billionaire boys club :roll:



https://media1.giphy.com/media/l4kDdCvgs503HNqhnu/giphy.gif?cid=790b7611d137557f963fe4996f68b77b85fc 6793dec56bc1&rid=giphy.gif

Baller789
06-27-2022, 09:55 AM
got these lil guys down bad


how are these kids gonna argue that the spurs and warriors aren't dynasties. absolute mental retardation.



they've been scrambling hard since the 3-6 jokes :roll:


keep crying lil bitch.


this is the billionaire boys club :roll:



https://media1.giphy.com/media/l4kDdCvgs503HNqhnu/giphy.gif?cid=790b7611d137557f963fe4996f68b77b85fc 6793dec56bc1&rid=giphy.gif

As I've said before, which one of those teams 3-peated?

If a back to back championship was all that was required to fulfill the definition of the word dynasty, were the Heatles a dynasty?

1987_Lakers
06-27-2022, 09:56 AM
how are these kids gonna argue that the spurs and warriors aren't dynasties. absolute mental retardation.


:oldlol:

red1
06-27-2022, 09:56 AM
As I've said before, which one of those teams 3-peated?

If a back to back championship was all that was required to fulfill the definition of the word dynasty, are the Heatles a dynasty?

yeah now you need a 3-peat to have a dynasty.


let me make this even easier for you, lil bitch.


warriors: 4 rings
spurs: 5 rings


all have more rings than the kobe and shaq lakers who are a certified undeniable dynasty. 4+ rings with the same core equals dynasty.



how about that :oldlol:

Baller789
06-27-2022, 09:57 AM
:oldlol:

You could help out red1 if you want.

1987_Lakers
06-27-2022, 09:59 AM
You could help out red1 if you want.

No need to. To say they are not dynasties just exposes yourself, no need to argue on such ridiculousness. That's like arguing with someone who says 2+2 = 5.

Baller789
06-27-2022, 09:59 AM
yeah now you need a 3-peat to have a dynasty.


let me make this even easier for you, lil bitch.


warriors: 4 rings
spurs: 5 rings


all have more rings than the kobe and shaq lakers who are a dynasty. 4+ rings with the same core equals dynasty.



how about that :oldlol:

But by definition, a dynasty is a succession.

So youre basically saying every back to back champion is a dynasty.

You see words mean something, all you all are doing is trying to fit a word into your agenda which doesnt fit.

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:00 AM
No need to. To say they are not dynasties just exposes yourself, no need to argue on such ridiculousness. That's like arguing with someone who says 2+2 = 5.

Eh no. All youre proving is youre bending what the word dynasty means.

red1
06-27-2022, 10:00 AM
You could help out red1 if you want.

says the loser with the lebron avatar who posts nothing but "bran bran bran"


we got this lil bitch down bad, boys.

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red1
06-27-2022, 10:02 AM
But by definition, a dynasty is a succession.

So youre basically saying every back to back champion is a dynasty.

You see words mean something, all you all are doing is trying to fit a word into your agenda which doesnt fit.

we are talking about basketball franchises you ****ing moron not a monarchy or the politics of a country


the spurs and the warriors are two of the best franchises of all-time and have 9 combined rings between them

if a core wins 5 rings together
or wins 4 rings together



they are a dynasty. period.

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:02 AM
says the loser with the lebron avatar who posts nothing but "bran bran bran"


we got this lil bitch down bad, boys.

https://c.tenor.com/TJ3Wr7sQRToAAAAM/lebron-james-dancing.gif
https://c.tenor.com/xXoxrudiItsAAAAM/lebron-music-lebron-dance.gif
https://c.tenor.com/2hZ29SaqxjkAAAAM/lebron-james-dancing.gif
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All youre proving here is youre dumb thread has no leg to stand on.

Now get back in my pocket.

red1
06-27-2022, 10:04 AM
keep posting bran bran bran with your bran avatar


we got you looking like a clown out here

https://c.tenor.com/TJ3Wr7sQRToAAAAM/lebron-james-dancing.gif

red1
06-27-2022, 10:05 AM
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1987_Lakers
06-27-2022, 10:05 AM
we are talking about basketball franchises you ****ing moron not a monarchy or the politics of a country


the spurs and the warriors are two of the best franchises of all-time and have 9 combined rings between them

if a core wins 5 rings together
or wins 4 rings together



they are a dynasty. period.

Bron only player ever to beat 2 dynasties in the Finals. :pimp:

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:05 AM
we are talking about basketball franchises you ****ing moron not a monarchy or the politics of a country


the spurs and the warriors are two of the best franchises of all-time and have 9 combined rings between them

if a core wins 5 rings together
or wins 4 rings together



they are a dynasty. period.

So where do you find a concrete and universal definition of the word basketball dynasty?

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:05 AM
Bron only player ever to beat 2 dynasties in the Finals. :pimp:

Which not one of them were dynasties :roll:

Youre only using that term to make your Hero look good.

Axe
06-27-2022, 10:05 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/fadeawayworld.net/.amp/nba/top-10-greatest-and-most-powerful-dynasties-in-nba-history

So basically anyone who lists the duncan spurs and curry warriors as dynasties are dumb. Wow, how brilliant. :hammerhead:

red1
06-27-2022, 10:08 AM
So where do you find a concrete and universal definition of the word basketball dynasty?

lil guy has nothing to add and cant argue with the fact that the warriors and spurs are both legendary franchises and that they both had a legendary run with the same group.


lebron is the only player to beat a 73-win team winning a finals MVP
lebron is the only player to win a finals MVP over popovich. pop has a finals record of 5/6.



its a beautiful thing. :oldlol:

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1987_Lakers
06-27-2022, 10:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Saj1EDHzbU8

We know.

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:09 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/fadeawayworld.net/.amp/nba/top-10-greatest-and-most-powerful-dynasties-in-nba-history

So basically anyone who lists the duncan spurs and curry warriors as dynasties are dumb. Wow, how brilliant. :hammerhead:

Well if we go by that list then every back2back champ is a dynasty.

Still that definition is subjective. What I'm looking for is an objective concrete source.

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:10 AM
lil guy has nothing to add and cant argue with the fact that the warriors and spurs are both legendary franchises and that they both had a legendary run with the same group.


lebron is the only player to beat a 73-win team winning a finals MVP
lebron is the only player to win a finals MVP over popovic. pop has a finals record of 5/6.



its a beautiful thing. :oldlol:

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GrimyFrightenedAnophelesmosquito-size_restricted.gif
https://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2818293/takethathaters.gif

So if it was so easy where is the source?

And oh, opinion pieces don't count.

Axe
06-27-2022, 10:10 AM
Lol you can consider the triumvirate heat a dynasty if you want. Nobody is stopping you from thinking so.

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:11 AM
Lol you can consider the triumvirate heat a dynasty if you want. Nobody is stopping you from thinking so.
Are you saying Lebron was in a dynasty as well?

red1
06-27-2022, 10:13 AM
So if it was so easy where is the source?

And oh, opinion pieces don't count.

get shit on dumbass :roll:


loser is arguing semantics without making a point, with his bran avatar, all while posting bran bran bran :roll:


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red1
06-27-2022, 10:13 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/fadeawayworld.net/.amp/nba/top-10-greatest-and-most-powerful-dynasties-in-nba-history

So basically anyone who lists the duncan spurs and curry warriors as dynasties are dumb. Wow, how brilliant. :hammerhead:

:roll:

Axe
06-27-2022, 10:14 AM
In a consensus list of top 10 (or 15 if that's considered short) players all-time, just how many guys didn't play for one?

red1
06-27-2022, 10:15 AM
We know.

:roll:


we've all got that kid looking like a clown

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:15 AM
get shit on dumbass :roll:


loser is arguing semantics without making a point, with his bran avatar, all while posting bran bran bran :roll:


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Can you read? I said editorial pieces don't count. :roll:

So based on what you posted, were the Heatles a dynasty?

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:16 AM
In a consensus list of top 10 (or 15 if that's considered short) players all-time, just how many guys didn't play for one?

But thats not the point of this thread is it?

red1
06-27-2022, 10:16 AM
Can you read? I said editorial pieces don't count. :roll:

So based on what you posted, were the Heatles a dynasty?

this ****ing clown :roll:

red1
06-27-2022, 10:18 AM
But thats not the point of this thread is it?

what your point bitch?

the spurs have more rings that the magic lakers and the bird celtics

the warriors have the same number of rings as kareem's lakers and and more than bird's celtics

the 2017 and 2018 warriors are the undisputed most stacked nba team of all-time.

the spurs also put out some of the best nba teams of all-time.



what's your point, my lil bitch? :confusedshrug:

Axe
06-27-2022, 10:18 AM
But thats not the point of this thread is it?
So? Doesn't mean it's not related to your question at all if anything. :confusedshrug:

red1
06-27-2022, 10:19 AM
"buh buh dynasty is a monarchy and the editorial pieces shouldnt count and all I ever post is bran bran bran and no one even knows what team I root for and and I'm gonna keep whining and crying like a little bitch it's just not fair"


-Baller789

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:21 AM
this ****ing clown :roll:

What I required was a simple unbiased and concrete definition of what a basketball dynasty is.

And if you can't come up with what constitutes that other than other poples opinions are, just concede.

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:22 AM
So? Doesn't mean it's not related to your question at all if anything. :confusedshrug:

Whatever.

So do you think the Heatles were a dynasty?

I don't.

red1
06-27-2022, 10:22 AM
What I required was a simple unbiased and concrete definition of what a basketball dynasty is.

And if you can't come up with what constitutes that other than other poples opinions are, just concede.

how come you've been ducking the question I've been asking you for a long time?

where do you live and what team do you root for? that's all I'm asking.



and why do you only ever post bran bran bran, with your bran avatar?

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:23 AM
"buh buh dynasty is a monarchy and the editorial pieces shouldnt count and all I ever post is bran bran bran and no one even knows what team I root for and and I'm gonna keep whining and crying like a little bitch it's just not fair"


-Baller789

Most editorial pieces have Jordan better than Lebron.

Is that true?

red1
06-27-2022, 10:23 AM
you keep ducking that question my son.


how come no one even knows what team you root for, yet we keep seeing your bran bran bran bran posts?

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:24 AM
how come you've been ducking the question I've been asking you for a long time?

where do you live and what team do you root for? that's all I'm asking.



and why do you only ever post bran bran bran, with your bran avatar?

My fave team are the Monstars and I live in your head. I have Bran as my avatar because I want to.

Axe
06-27-2022, 10:24 AM
Whatever.

So do you think the Heatles were a dynasty?

I don't.
Just barely.

red1
06-27-2022, 10:24 AM
Most editorial pieces have Jordan better than Lebron.

Is that true?

nah I just think most knowledgeable NBA fans should be smart enough to know that the spurs and warriors are both dynasties.


otherwise you just look stupid. that's my point.



what's your point again?

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:25 AM
Just barely.

So is that a yes or a no?

red1
06-27-2022, 10:25 AM
My fave team are the Monstars and I live in your head. I have Bran as my avatar because I want to.

actually I think bran lives in your head - that's all you ever post about as well, my lil bitch.













































https://c.tenor.com/TJ3Wr7sQRToAAAAM/lebron-james-dancing.gif

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:26 AM
nah I just think most knowledgeable NBA fans should be smart enough to know that the spurs and warriors are both dynasties.


otherwise you just look stupid. that's my point.



what's your point again?

Pretty rich of you accusing me of ducking the question when you do the exact same thing. :roll:

Oh Bronies indeed. :facepalm

Axe
06-27-2022, 10:27 AM
So is that a yes or a no?
Well if sports journalists consider the thomas pistons to be a dynasty, then i guess it wouldn't be wrong to say yes.

red1
06-27-2022, 10:28 AM
Pretty rich of you accusing me of ducking the question when you do the exact same thing. :roll:

Oh Bronies indeed. :facepalm

actually no. I actually wasted my time to answer every question


meanwhile you've literally ducked that question for a long time.


so answer if you cant answer it, this is ANOTHER L on your record of nothing but Ls


cant wait to catch the lakers in town again. if I was balling like that I'd actually fly out to LA and catch some games too


https://c.tenor.com/TJ3Wr7sQRToAAAAM/lebron-james-dancing.gif

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:28 AM
actually I think bran lives in your head - that's all you ever post about as well, my lil bitch.













































https://c.tenor.com/TJ3Wr7sQRToAAAAM/lebron-james-dancing.gif

So is Jordan better than Lebron?

Were the Heatles a dynasty?

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:29 AM
If sports journalists consider the thomas pistons to be a dynasty, then i guess it wouldn't be wrong to say yes.

No man. I'm asking what your opinion is straight up. No BS pls.

red1
06-27-2022, 10:29 AM
now answer the questions *****


where do you live, who do you root for, and why do you only ever post bran bran bran?


you're leaving me no choice but to consider this another dub for the fam™...



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Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:31 AM
So is Jordan better than Lebron?

Were the Heatles a dynasty?


now answer the questions *****


where do you live, who do you root for, and why do you only ever post bran bran bran?


you're leaving me no choice but to consider this another dub for the fam™...



https://c.tenor.com/TJ3Wr7sQRToAAAAM/lebron-james-dancing.gif
https://c.tenor.com/TJ3Wr7sQRToAAAAM/lebron-james-dancing.gif

Notice how youre arse tightens up when asked these difficult but thread related questions.

Your questions are just plain questions tho :(

red1
06-27-2022, 10:32 AM
So is Jordan better than Lebron?

Were the Heatles a dynasty?

No

and Maybe

red1
06-27-2022, 10:32 AM
Notice how youre arse tightens up when asked these difficult but thread related questions.

Your questions are just plain questions tho :(

I've been answering all of your questions while Im working at the same time



now answer the questions *****


where do you live, who do you root for, and why do you only ever post bran bran bran?


you're leaving me no choice but to consider this another dub for the fam™...



https://c.tenor.com/TJ3Wr7sQRToAAAAM/lebron-james-dancing.gif
https://c.tenor.com/TJ3Wr7sQRToAAAAM/lebron-james-dancing.gif




and you've ducked every question, hence why I call you my lil bitch.


I'll try one more time

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:33 AM
No

and Maybe

I need a yes or no answer for the Heatles pls.

I'm sure youre quite familiar with that team since prime Bron played there.

Axe
06-27-2022, 10:33 AM
No BS pls.
And since when in the world does needing to three-peat first became a requirement for teams to be a dynasty? The last team to do so were the shaq-kobe lakers 20 years ago.

red1
06-27-2022, 10:34 AM
now answer the questions *****


where do you live, who do you root for, and why do you only ever post bran bran bran?


you're leaving me no choice but to consider this another dub for the fam™...



https://c.tenor.com/TJ3Wr7sQRToAAAAM/lebron-james-dancing.gif
https://c.tenor.com/TJ3Wr7sQRToAAAAM/lebron-james-dancing.gif

if you cant answer these questions, then this is another L for you and I'm going to count it as another W in my win column and move on with my day


you cant just ask the ref for one overtime after another when you keep losing...

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:34 AM
I've been answering all of your questions while Im working at the same time







and you've ducked every question, hence why I call you my lil bitch.


I'll try one more time

Nah I answered your questions man.

You just don't like the answers.

red1
06-27-2022, 10:36 AM
now answer the questions *****


where do you live, who do you root for, and why do you only ever post bran bran bran?


you're leaving me no choice but to consider this another dub for the fam™...



https://c.tenor.com/TJ3Wr7sQRToAAAAM/lebron-james-dancing.gif
https://c.tenor.com/TJ3Wr7sQRToAAAAM/lebron-james-dancing.gif

lil bitch cant answer the questions so this is now OFFICIALLY another dub for the fam™

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:36 AM
And since when in the world does needing to three-peat first became a requirement for teams to be a dynasty? The last team to do so were the shaq-kobe lakers 20 years ago.

So which is it? I'm asking for your opinion man. Not what others think relative to your own opinion.

red1
06-27-2022, 10:36 AM
Nah I answered your questions man.

You just don't like the answers.

nice try, try again lil bitch.

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Axe
06-27-2022, 10:37 AM
I already said yes. Try reading it up again.

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:38 AM
And since when in the world does needing to three-peat first became a requirement for teams to be a dynasty? The last team to do so were the shaq-kobe lakers 20 years ago.

No man. I said no BS.

It's just a yes or no from you.

I wouldn't think you right or wrong on either way man.

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:39 AM
I already said yes. Try reading it up again.

You said yes, but you then when all defensive and stated blah blah.

Is that a solid yes the Heatles were a dynasty from you then?

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:41 AM
nice try, try again lil bitch.

https://c.tenor.com/8zUyU3lh7csAAAAC/vince-carter-its-over.gif

Well this lil b!tch making you duck and dodge like Floyd Mayweather tho.

Where the Heatles a dynasty?

Yes or No?

Simple.

Axe
06-27-2022, 10:42 AM
Yes.

The part that i don't understand now is why all those articles and opinions from sports journalists/editorials are considered 'BS' according to you. :confusedshrug:

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:45 AM
Yes.

The part that i don't understand now is why all those articles and opinions from sports journalists/editorials are considered 'BS' according to you. :confusedshrug:

Nah. I don't think they're BS.

But they are opinions. So they are not universal.

So red1 and you should not have a problem with me not considering the Spurs or the Warriors a dynasty.

Unless of the not so hidden agendas of course.

For the record I consider them as great teams. Even dominant for the Warriors.

Just not dynasties.

red1
06-27-2022, 10:45 AM
Well this lil b!tch making you duck and dodge like Floyd Mayweather tho.

Where the Heatles a dynasty?

Yes or No?

Simple.

Dude. Stop wasting my time if you wont answer any of my questions.

I'll answer YOUR questions - AGAIN.


I already gave you my answer for your first question.


The heat I wouldnt say were a dynasty. They didnt win enough rings. If they won a third ring together, I would have said yes.

red1
06-27-2022, 10:46 AM
by the way, this is already an L for you.


you ducked every question.

red1
06-27-2022, 10:48 AM
Nah. I don't think they're BS.

But they are opinions. So they are not universal.

So red1 and you should not have a problem with me not considering the Spurs or the Warriors a dynasty.

Unless of the not so hidden agendas of course.

For the record I consider them as great teams. Even dominant for the Warriors.

Just not dynasties.

sure.



just know that you would be wrong. I'm sure every coach and GM would disagree with you too.

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:54 AM
by the way, this is already an L for you.


you ducked every question.

Sorry to bring this up to you, but this is like saying Pacquiao saying he beat Floyd Mayweather Jr. :D


get shit on dumbass


loser is arguing semantics without making a point, with his bran avatar, all while posting bran bran bran :roll:


https://fadeawayworld.net/.image/c_fit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw _620/MTgwMTMyNzAwMzM4OTg4Mzc2/top-10-greatest-and-most-powerful-dynasties-in-nba-history.jpg



Dude. Stop wasting my time if you wont answer any of my questions.

I'll answer YOUR questions - AGAIN.


I already gave you my answer for your first question.


The heat I wouldnt say were a dynasty. They didnt win enough rings. If they won a third ring together, I would have said yes.


So youre basically saying your own source material to support your argument is wrong. :facepalm

Bird's Celtics are there with two championships out of three.

Bron's Heat were went to four finals winning two.

By Bronie logic that should be much better than the Celtics therefore a greater dynasty and should be on that list.

:(

Axe
06-27-2022, 10:55 AM
But they are opinions. So they are not universal.
Oh i see. So i guess the 'opinions' of people who engage in a different industry would hold more weight regarding this stuff. Like the ones from comedian host jimmy kimmel or even former top gear journalist jeremy clarkson. Got it. :rolleyes:

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:57 AM
Oh i see. So i guess the 'opinions' of people who engage in a different industry would hold more weight regarding this stuff. Like the ones from comedian host jimmy kimmel or even former top gear journalist jeremy clarkson. Got it. :rolleyes:

You could find 'expert' opinions contradicting with each other all the time yes?

Axe
06-27-2022, 11:00 AM
You could find 'expert' opinions contradicting with each other all the time yes?
Most likely. But what do you think about something that can be generally considered as 'consensus'?

Baller789
06-27-2022, 11:04 AM
Most likely. But what do you think about something that can be generally considered as 'consensus'?

In the dictionary in this case for the definition.

red1
06-27-2022, 03:03 PM
Sorry to bring this up to you, but this is like saying Pacquiao saying he beat Floyd Mayweather Jr. :D







So youre basically saying your own source material to support your argument is wrong. :facepalm

Bird's Celtics are there with two championships out of three.

Bron's Heat were went to four finals winning two.

By Bronie logic that should be much better than the Celtics therefore a greater dynasty and should be on that list.

:(

blah blah blah.




shut the **** up, bitch-ass clown.

red1
06-27-2022, 03:03 PM
wont even answer a single question.


coward.

red1
06-27-2022, 03:04 PM
5 rings, and 4 rings with the same teams aren't dynasties :roll:



kid is smoking something.

8Ball
06-27-2022, 04:36 PM
I didn't even consider that.

Spurs 3x
Warriors 4x

These teams are better than anything Jordan ever faced in the finals. And Jordan didn't face any stacked ECF teams either. Patrick Ewing? Reggie Miller? N Please.


Jordan faced a dynasty in the 80s, the Celtics, and we know what Larry Bird did to Jordan. :pimp:

8Ball
06-27-2022, 04:38 PM
5 rings, and 4 rings with the same teams aren't dynasties :roll:



kid is smoking something.


Spurs were a dynasty.
Warriors were an even better dynasty.

The 90s finals teams from the west were like 2020 Miami Heat teams.

Axe
06-27-2022, 05:20 PM
I didn't even consider that.

Spurs 3x
Warriors 4x

These teams are better than anything Jordan ever faced in the finals. And Jordan didn't face any stacked ECF teams either. Patrick Ewing? Reggie Miller? N Please.


Jordan faced a dynasty in the 80s, the Celtics, and we know what Larry Bird did to Jordan. :pimp:
Now he can't debunk this.

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:48 PM
wont even answer a single question.


coward.


5 rings, and 4 rings with the same teams aren't dynasties :roll:



kid is smoking something.

Sorry if you don't have any proper comebacks.

Frankly I'm embarassed for you. :(

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:49 PM
Now he can't debunk this.

Whos trying to debunk that?

Baller789
06-27-2022, 10:50 PM
Spurs were a dynasty.
Warriors were an even better dynasty.

The 90s finals teams from the west were like 2020 Miami Heat teams.

Where the Heatles a dynasty?

kawhileonard2
06-27-2022, 10:58 PM
lebron made the NBA finals an incredible 10 times

played the warriors and the spurs a combined 7 times

thats legendary even if it was done in the weaker conference of the two


the best team that jordan ever beat in the NBA finals was the '91 lakers with a declined magic and with kareem not even on the team - ie a shell of the late 80's lakers. next best team would be the jazz with malone and stockton.



jordan never beat a single team as good as the spurs and warriors in the finals. meanwhile lebron ran into dynasty level teams and the undebatable most stacked team of all time in the kd curry klay dray iggy lakers. thats the western conference starting lineup right there.


http://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/23172.jpeg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkGW2LaU8AAfwbQ.jpg

Lebron won 1 title for the franchise that drafted him in 11 years. http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for while MJ turned a franchise that never won into a dynasty.

red1
06-28-2022, 07:46 PM
This little bitch baller789 ducked every single question again but still follows me around. that's just boring, especially if you won't answer.


I don't have time to give you ALL attention. hard being a father to so many. I'll just let you have it, lil bitch.

red1
06-28-2022, 07:47 PM
Lebron won 1 title for the franchise that drafted him in 11 years. http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for while MJ turned a franchise that never won into a dynasty.

Jordan won zero rings for his hometown.

lebron broke a 52-year drought in ALL sports for his hometown.

kawhileonard2
06-28-2022, 08:41 PM
Jordan won zero rings for his hometown.

lebron broke a 52-year drought in ALL sports for his hometown.

Jordan turned a franchise that never won into a dynasty. Lebron won 1 title in 11 years. http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for

red1
06-28-2022, 08:43 PM
Jordan turned a franchise that never won into a dynasty. Lebron won 1 title in 11 years. http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for

but how many players in NBA history won a finals MVP winning a ring for their hometown? 0

how many rings did jordan win his hometown? 0


how many years was the cleveland drought? 52 years

Baller789
06-28-2022, 08:53 PM
This little bitch baller789 ducked every single question again but still follows me around. that's just boring, especially if you won't answer.


I don't have time to give you ALL attention. hard being a father to so many. I'll just let you have it, lil bitch.

Whats actually boring is you stating your source material then contradicting your evidence a few posts later.

*Yawn*

red1
06-28-2022, 08:54 PM
no one has shit to add.



that's a dub.



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Axe
06-28-2022, 09:29 PM
So the spurs and the warriors aren't dynasties because they haven't three-peated yet. :(

kawhileonard2
06-28-2022, 09:42 PM
Jordan turned a franchise that never won into a dynasty. Lebron won 1 title in 11 years. http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for

Guys!

red1
06-28-2022, 09:42 PM
So the spurs and the warriors aren't dynasties because they haven't three-peated yet. :(

we got 'em on a leash boys


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kawhileonard2
06-28-2022, 09:43 PM
Need an answer on each thread below.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371

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red1
06-28-2022, 09:44 PM
we already crushed all those points cant keep answering spam posts - and please stop using the fam™'s trademarked victory gif


issa dub


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kawhileonard2
06-28-2022, 09:45 PM
Need an answer on each thread below.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371

https://media0.giphy.com/media/l0ErLeqamV3UOARsA/giphy.gif

red1
06-28-2022, 09:52 PM
Bron only player ever to beat 2 dynasties in the Finals. :pimp:

legacy aging like fine wine :oldlol:



underdog in an unprecedented 7/10 finals

won 4 rings so overachieved by 33%

two dynasty-scalps including a 73-win dynasty scalp - that's more wins than pippen and baldan's record :roll:

https://media0.giphy.com/media/l0ErLeqamV3UOARsA/giphy.gif

Baller789
06-28-2022, 09:56 PM
So the spurs and the warriors aren't dynasties because they haven't three-peated yet. :(

Yes.

Unless you want to count ALL back to back champions as dynasties.

Shooter
06-28-2022, 10:04 PM
The only thing Jordan is better at is dad killing

kawhileonard2
06-28-2022, 10:05 PM
The only thing Jordan is better at is dad killing

The only thing Lebron is better at is molesting kids.

Bawkish
06-28-2022, 11:48 PM
The only thing Jordan is better at is dad killing

while Bron is probably handing out portable DNA kits in the slums of Akron looking for his dad

Baller789
06-29-2022, 12:50 AM
while Bron is probably handing out portable DNA kits in the slums of Akron looking for his dad

:lebronamazed:

dazzer87
06-29-2022, 01:13 AM
while Bron is probably handing out portable DNA kits in the slums of Akron looking for his dad

:(

WhiteKyrie
06-29-2022, 01:16 AM
while Bron is probably handing out portable DNA kits in the slums of Akron looking for his dad

:oldlol:

Running from responsibilities with his ghetto tail tucked between his legs was learned genetic behavior for LeBron unfortunately. Even his pops didn’t want him.

And his mom was a ghetto crack whore, so unreliable with info from her on who dad actually is :roll: :roll: :roll:

TheMan
06-29-2022, 01:27 AM
played the spurs and warriors a combined 7 times including the most stacked team of all time in the 2017-2018 warriors :roll:


still scalped them both and ended up with 4 rings :roll:

He's 2 out of 7 vs the "dynasties". That's still a decided losing record :confusedshrug:

red1
06-29-2022, 06:40 AM
He's 2 out of 7 vs the "dynasties". That's still a decided losing record :confusedshrug:

yeah - playing in some of the most lopsided nba finals of all-time, and against the most stacked teams of all-time in the 2017 and 2018 warriors.

go look at the vegas odds. he was an underdog in 6/7 of those series. that's a statistical fact, and vegas never lies.


jordan was playing against white boys like hornacek and stockton on the perimeter with the best perimeter defender in the league other than himself on his team, or he was playing against grocery bagging midgets


meanwhile...

https://i.postimg.cc/k5pXdN5h/Rivalry-Decade.jpg

red1
06-29-2022, 06:44 AM
:oldlol:

Running from responsibilities with his ghetto tail tucked between his legs was learned genetic behavior for LeBron unfortunately. Even his pops didn’t want him.

And his mom was a ghetto crack whore, so unreliable with info from her on who dad actually is :roll: :roll:

the american dream - and now he's a billionaire


https://c.tenor.com/TJ3Wr7sQRToAAAAM/lebron-james-dancing.gif


better player than baldan, better GM than baldan, and definitely a better man than baldan


https://c.tenor.com/TJ3Wr7sQRToAAAAM/lebron-james-dancing.gif

red1
06-29-2022, 07:05 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Cgkt9w6PaDs/U1xiu79AgvI/AAAAAAAAyrs/k9__GR95mps/s1600/giphy.gif

Baller789
06-29-2022, 09:59 AM
yeah - playing in some of the most lopsided nba finals of all-time, and against the most stacked teams of all-time in the 2017 and 2018 warriors.

go look at the vegas odds. he was an underdog in 6/7 of those series. that's a statistical fact, and vegas never lies.


jordan was playing against white boys like hornacek and stockton on the perimeter with the best perimeter defender in the league other than himself on his team, or he was playing against grocery bagging midgets


meanwhile...

https://i.postimg.cc/k5pXdN5h/Rivalry-Decade.jpg

Stockton.

:roll:

HylianNightmare
06-29-2022, 10:14 AM
11>7>6>5>4