Since Wade was Heat's leading scorer in playoffs & Finals of 2011, we can conclude..

[3ba11]

that Wade would've been 1st option in prior years if Lebron/Wade hooked up earlier than 2011.

Lebron would've been the "pippen" if they linked up in say, 2006..

We already know that 06' Wade defeated maximum defensive attention (carried scoring load in playoffs and Finals of title run), which Lebron never did.. Furthermore, Wade dominated the 2010 Celtics while Lebron was embarrassed and then Wade led the Heat in 2011 Playoffs too.

So all evidence shows that Lebron would've been Wade's pippen if they linked up earlier.

Remember, Lebron was just another career-losing ball-dominator like Luka or Harden until the"decision" to stack the deck and manufacture a resume.. The "decision" to be overrated.

[dankok8]

Many people have indeed made a solid case that Wade was better than Lebron up to and including 2011.

But you're obsessed brah!

[Axe]

But you're obsessed brah!
No shit

[3ba11]

No shit


#2 all-time except Wade was literally better especially against the best comp from 2005-2011

The reality is that Lebron wasn't THAT good until the Curry pace and space era - wide open lanes, open threes and automatic scoring.. Jordan actually led Lebron in playoffs l apg for the first 9 years of their playoff careers (until the pace and space era)

[FKAri]

Many people have indeed made a solid case that Wade was better than Lebron up to and including 2011.

But you're obsessed brah!

Wade was on Lebron's level from 09-11. I wouldn't say he was better overall but as a scorer you could make a good case.

[StrongLurk]

Wow, OP actually made a thread where Lebron deserves legit criticism. I've always said the most obvious reason Lebron < Jordan is because of the 2011 Finals. That would never happen to MJ.

But let's be real. Lebron lead the Heat in regular season scoring and through the first three rounds of the playoffs. Wade barely passed Bron in scoring after the finals because Lebron legit choked and it's a huge choke. Dallas winning that Heat series was a big upset, REGARDLESS of how well the Mavs were actually playing. But Dwade 06-2010 is for sure underrated, can make an argument he was just as good as Kobe/Lebron during that time.

[3ba11]

Wow, OP actually made a thread where Lebron deserves legit criticism. I've always said the most obvious reason Lebron < Jordan is because of the 2011 Finals. That would never happen to MJ.

But let's be real. Lebron lead the Heat in regular season scoring and through the first three rounds of the playoffs. Wade barely passed Bron in scoring after the finals because Lebron legit choked and it's a huge choke. Dallas winning that Heat series was a big upset, REGARDLESS of how well the Mavs were actually playing. But Dwade 06-2010 is for sure underrated, can make an argument he was just as good as Kobe/Lebron during that time.


Wade led the 2nd Round and Finals in 2011, so no

Ultimately, a ball-dominator cannot carry the scoring burden and beat a top team or Finals team - it's too ball-dominant - so guys like Lebron, Luka, or even Magic need all-time scorers at sidekick - elite 1st options that nearly match Lebron's Finals ppg..

Otoh, off-ball experts like Curry or MJ maintain a good brand at high scoring levels and therefore can carry the scoring load and beat Finals teams - so they don't need all-time scorers at sidekick and can win with secondary scorers like Klay, Wiggins or Pippen

[red1]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1994_games.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993%E2%80%9394_Chicago_Bulls_season

jordan's team was so stacked that they won 55-games while he was banned from the league for killing his father.



and this is the best team that jordan ever beat.


notice the players that are on the perimeter in hornacek and stockton? far cry from kobe, durant, kawhi, curry, klay etc etc etc etc right?


https://images2.minutemediacdn.com/image/fetch/w_2000,h_2000,c_fit/https%3A%2F%2Fthejnotes.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fgetty-images%2F2017%2F07%2F52032655.jpeg

[red1]

6 cotton candy rings :roll:

[red1]

“Madonna would pick up Scottie Pippen in a limo with a hot tub”: Former Bulls coach says Michael Jordan was jealous of All-Star teammate’s package down under

https://thesportsrush.com/nba-news-madonna-would-pick-up-scottie-pippen-in-a-limo-with-a-hot-tub-former-bulls-coach-says-michael-jordan-was-jealous-of-all-star-teammates-package-down-under/

[Axe]

#2 all-time except Wade was literally better especially against the best comp from 2005-2011

The reality is that Lebron wasn't THAT good until the Curry pace and space era - wide open lanes, open threes and automatic scoring.. Jordan actually led Lebron in playoffs l apg for the first 9 years of their playoff careers (until the pace and space era)
1-9

[Shooter]

6 cotton candy rings :roll:

https://i.postimg.cc/PxDWrLNT/6plastics.png

https://i.postimg.cc/Jhm4wx2h/NO9KDK_facebook.gif

[bullettooth]

jordan's team was so stacked that they won 55-games while he was banned from the league for killing his father.

If anyone needed to know how big of a retard this brampton scrub is..... here's your evidence.

[red1]

If anyone needed to know how big of a retard this brampton scrub is..... here's your evidence.

I live downtown right off the subway line ***** - I dont live in a suburb like brampton

another virgin with 5,936 posts obsessing about the GOAT - his avatar is a lebron avatar :roll:



we got you skull****ed out here boy :oldlol:

[bullettooth]

I live downtown right off the subway line ***** - I dont live in a suburb like brampton

another virgin with 5,936 posts obsessing about the GOAT - his avatar is a lebron avatar :roll:



we got you skull****ed out here boy :oldlol:

Says the guy peddling a 30 year old lie about MJ killing his dad.

Get some perspective Rajesh. Has the curry and spice fried your brain?

[red1]

Says the guy peddling a 30 year old lie about MJ killing his dad.

Get some perspective Rajesh. Has the curry and spice fried your brain?

Who's rajesh?


and you're another clown with 6 posts of just "bran bran bran"

[r15mohd]

Wade led the 2nd Round and Finals in 2011, so no

Ultimately, a ball-dominator cannot carry the scoring burden and beat a top team or Finals team - it's too ball-dominant - so guys like Lebron, Luka, or even Magic need all-time scorers at sidekick - elite 1st options that nearly match Lebron's Finals ppg..

Otoh, off-ball experts like Curry or MJ maintain a good brand at high scoring levels and therefore can carry the scoring load and beat Finals teams - so they don't need all-time scorers at sidekick and can win with secondary scorers like Klay, Wiggins or Pippen

it wasnt by the 10pt margin between the two to warrant maximum defensive attention - therefore, this theory of yours is flawed :lol

[red1]

it wasnt by the 10pt margin between the two to warrant maximum defensive attention - therefore, this theory of yours is flawed :lol

dude 3ball loses every debate because he's illogical

I actually acknowledge that MJ is incredible and that he had arguably the most disney fairy-tale career of all pro-sports - he deserved it because he was that good


meanwhile OP argues illogical nonsense and changes his mind every 20 minutes with the one trend being lebron and pippen are the worst players of all-time - what a coincidence they are the the two players that shit on jordan's legacy the hardest


mj still doing damage control against pippen putting out netflix documentaries all these years later :roll:

[AlternativeAcc.]

Wade was great before 2011

But his ball dominance and inability to fit as a 2nd option lowered the heats ceiling. Couple that with injuries and mental complacency and you've got a pretty shitty 2nd option for the majority of the Heats dynasty run

Give me klay or Middleton over Wade as a 2nd option. Pppen or Wade? Pippen by 50 million miles. Pau or Wade? Pau by 50 million miles. Fit as a 2nd option is incredibly important.. more important than talent in a vacuum

[Full Court]

Well, it was also one of the most epic choke jobs of all time by Lebron. The hype job got straight up Terry'ed.

[red1]

Wade was great before 2011

But his ball dominance and inability to fit as a 2nd option lowered the heats ceiling. Couple that with injuries and mental complacency and you've got a pretty shitty 2nd option for the majority of the Heats dynasty run

Give me klay or Middleton over Wade as a 2nd option. Pppen or Wade? Pippen by 50 million miles. Pau or Wade? Pau by 50 million miles. Fit as a 2nd option is incredibly important.. more important than talent in a vacuum

dude pippen could lead a team go 55-wins and the eastern conference semi's WITHOUT his star player. so according to 3ball logic, by himself


that means lebron would win the ring every year with a player that good. that's like 10 rings mang. dat 3ball logic.

[Shooter]

2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 Wade = ZERO 1st round wins

Don't get it twisted

[Axe]

2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 Wade = ZERO 1st round wins

Don't get it twisted
With a cast that could have won at least 50 games during that span but never happened at all, slick. :(