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Atlantis
06-22-2022, 07:01 PM
Sounds crazy, right?

Well, hear me out.

People have the right to their life being protected by their government. I.e. nobody wants to live in a society where anyone can kill you and the government doesn't do anything about it.

So we pass a law that says murder is illegal and then punish people who are convicted of it.

Nothing in the Constitution needs to spell it out even though it's a foundational right to every political entity. I.e. no "Ten Commandment"-style "Thou shalt not Kill" is needed in a secular society.

That's how it should be for the Bill of Rights.

If they are that important, then the instruments of government that have been spelled out by the Constitution will preserve that right as the people of each generation see fit.

Countries in which the freedom of speech, assembly, etc is not officially protected by a stated law in their constitutions still provide reasonable protections for this.

Countries in which cruel and unusual punishment is not officially disallowed by their constitution have banned capital punishment, while we still have it. They aren't boiling people in pots or burning them alive either.


The 2nd amendment isn't the only problem.

The Entire Bill of Rights is.

It's a superfluous list of rights that aren't even the most important to be singled out in a modern state that makes people overly attached to and defensive of these rights, and unaware when an exception has to be made for them. It sacralizes and fetishizes what should be treated as just another right, subject to legislation, executive action, and judicial decision.

No Ten Commandments-style laws that elevate certain rights to the status that the Bill of Rights has elevated them. The only amendments to the Constitution should be regarding the process and procedure by which the government is structured and administered, not specific laws that are the output of that governing process.

diamenz
06-22-2022, 08:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9-R8T1SuG4

Cleverness
06-23-2022, 02:28 PM
Why would you stop at the Bill of Rights?

The US Constitution should be repealed in its entirety.

:rockon:

RRR3
06-24-2022, 05:47 PM
Governments shouldn’t exist. Neither should businesses and corporations for anyone stupid enough to think the two are separate.

BigKobeFan
06-24-2022, 07:00 PM
If governments do not exist, how the hell are you going to support socialism

RRR3
06-24-2022, 07:46 PM
If governments do not exist, how the hell are you going to support socialism
Marx literally defined communism as a “stateless society”, you moron.

BigKobeFan
06-24-2022, 08:22 PM
Marx literally defined communism as a “stateless society”, you moron.

Thats why he is an idiot and so are you

RRR3
06-24-2022, 08:53 PM
Thats why he is an idiot and so are you
Yeah, KARL MARX didn’t know what communism was. Are you braindead?

BigKobeFan
06-24-2022, 10:05 PM
Yeah, KARL MARX didn’t know what communism was. Are you braindead?

How in god's name are you going to govern with socialistic ideas without a government? A small commune every 3 miles apart? Even the smallest of Communes have sets of rules. (government).

Even hunter and gatherers have a set of rules and regulations

That is why you are an idiot and always will be.

BurningHammer
06-24-2022, 11:28 PM
Marx literally defined communism as a “stateless society”, you moron.

And as you have seen throughout the history, it can't be done in real life. And whoever tried it ended up f*cking up the whole countries.

RRR3
06-25-2022, 06:20 AM
And as you have seen throughout the history, it can't be done in real life. And whoever tried it ended up f*cking up the whole countries.
It certainly can’t be achieved through Leninism, which is what you’re probably referring to. Tbh it can’t be achieved through a state at all, states are inherently authoritarian. Lenin was a POS opportunist and didn’t adhere to Marxist principles. I’m not sure why I’m supposed to care about people who quite literally didn’t listen to Marx’s key tenet of socialism (a worker controlled economy) have to do with what he said, they are literally going against his definition but I’m not a Marxist anyways, I’m an anarchist, but this stuff needs to be specified. The only way to achieve communism would be through anarchism. Which is why I’m an anarchist.

BigKobeFan
06-25-2022, 08:30 AM
It certainly can’t be achieved through Leninism, which is what you’re probably referring to. Tbh it can’t be achieved through a state at all, states are inherently authoritarian. Lenin was a POS opportunist and didn’t adhere to Marxist principles. I’m not sure why I’m supposed to care about people who quite literally didn’t listen to Marx’s key tenet of socialism (a worker controlled economy) have to do with what he said, they are literally going against his definition but I’m not a Marxist anyways, I’m an anarchist, but this stuff needs to be specified. The only way to achieve communism would be through anarchism. Which is why I’m an anarchist.

An anarchist who lives in his moms house. You arent even successful at doing that

RRR3
06-25-2022, 01:31 PM
An anarchist who lives in his moms house. You arent even successful at doing that
I told you I guys moved literally over a year ago, durrr.

AKA_AAP
06-25-2022, 02:30 PM
It certainly can’t be achieved through Leninism, which is what you’re probably referring to. Tbh it can’t be achieved through a state at all, states are inherently authoritarian. Lenin was a POS opportunist and didn’t adhere to Marxist principles. I’m not sure why I’m supposed to care about people who quite literally didn’t listen to Marx’s key tenet of socialism (a worker controlled economy) have to do with what he said, they are literally going against his definition but I’m not a Marxist anyways, I’m an anarchist, but this stuff needs to be specified. The only way to achieve communism would be through anarchism. Which is why I’m an anarchist.

"POS opportunist" perfectly describes pro communism suckers and losers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyCDK7E35yk

KNOW1EDGE
06-25-2022, 09:43 PM
Move to Cuba if you love socialism. I hear it’s wonderful there.

That’s why Americans are desperately risking their lives taking rafts across the ocean in search of the socialist dream.