73-win Warriors had 1 go-to player - Curry wasn't good enough to carry them like 2022

[3ba11]

With only 1 go-to player, the 16' Warriors needed Curry to carry scoring load, aka defeat maximum defensive attention.

Curry wasn't good enough to do that until this year because carrying a secondary producer like Klay, Wiggins or Pippen is a goat load - it requires carrying scoring load in Finals (defeating maximum defensive attention) and making every big shot CONSISTENTLY throughout the game - Curry didn't reach this Jordan level until this year

So Draymond is 100% correct and the mainstream media simply doesn't understand the game

[ShawkFactory]

The 2022 Warriors are not beating the 16 Cavs.

[StrongLurk]

Got it, so Lebron has 5 rings/5 FMVPs then since we know the 15 Warriors only won due to Love/Kyrie injuries.

Thanks for adding to Lebron's resume OP.

[3ba11]

The 2022 Warriors are not beating the 16 Cavs.


They're destroying them in any year without the Draymond suspension

So the 2022 Warriors with an improved Curry (Jordan-level and making every big shot) would demolish the Cavs

Non-hoopers just don't realize that Curry is far better now than he's ever been

[1987_Lakers]

They're destroying them in any year without the Draymond suspension

So the 2022 Warriors with an improved Curry (Jordan-level and making every big shot) would demolish the Cavs

Non-hoopers just don't realize that Curry is far better now than he's ever been

Draymond yesterday said the Cavs figured them out and they needed KD to beat them. Look it up it you don't believe me.

:pimp:

[SouBeachTalents]

The Warriors went 4-2 in the playoffs without Curry, and won another game he scored just 6 points in 18 minutes. They won these 5 games by 9, 27, 33, 12 & 11, and one of the two losses came by a single point. So suffice to say, they were frankly dominating when Curry wasn’t playing. And over this span the other stars averaged

Klay: 29/4/3
Dray: 19/10/8

[ShawkFactory]

Draymond yesterday said the Cavs figured them out and they needed KD to beat them. Look it up it you don't believe me.

:pimp:

Lol word-for-word

[3ba11]

Draymond yesterday said the Cavs figured them out and they needed KD to beat them. Look it up it you don't believe me.

:pimp:


22' Curry ragdolls the Cavs

He's far superior to 16' Curry

That's Draymond's point and I agree 100%

[3ba11]

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People don't realize how thin the 16' Warriors were scoring-wise and how much they needed Curry to carry them - he wasn't capable of doing that until this year because it's a goat burden.. Carrying a secondary producer like Klay or Wiggins or Pippen to a title is a goat load.. It requires Jordan-level carry-job and making every big shot CONSISTENTLY throughout the game - Curry didn't reach this goat level until this year

[StrongLurk]

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Thread Cliffs


People don't realize how thin the 16' Warriors were scoring-wise and how much they needed Curry to carry them - he wasn't capable of doing that until this year because it's a goat burden.. Carrying a secondary producer like Klay or Wiggins or Pippen to a title is a goat load.. It requires Jordan-level carry-job and making every big shot CONSISTENTLY throughout the game - Curry didn't reach this goat level until this year

Thread Cliffs:

Lebron has 5 rings/5 FMVPs then since we know the 15 Warriors only won due to Love/Kyrie injuries.

Thanks for adding to Lebron's resume OP.

[3ba11]

Thread Cliffs:

Lebron has 5 rings/5 FMVPs then since we know the 15 Warriors only won due to Love/Kyrie injuries.

Thanks for adding to Lebron's resume OP.


The Heat were hurt n 2020 and the Warriors were hurt in 2016

So that brings Lebron back down to 3 rings, or half of the goat standard..

[SouBeachTalents]

The Heat were hurt n 2020 and the Warriors were hurt in 2016

So that brings Lebron back down to 3 rings, or half of the goat standard..
The Cavs were hurt in 2015, the Spurs were in 2017, the Rockets were in 2018, and the Nuggets/Grizzlies were this year. So that brings Curry back down to 0 rings.

[Hey Yo]

The Cavs were hurt in 2015, the Spurs were in 2017, the Rockets were in 2018, and the Nuggets/Grizzlies were this year. So that brings Curry back down to 0 rings.

Easy slay....

[3ba11]

The Cavs were hurt in 2015, the Spurs were in 2017, the Rockets were in 2018, and the Nuggets/Grizzlies were this year. So that brings Curry back down to 0 rings.


Celtics were hurt in 2012

Bulls were hurt in 2011... Oh wait

[SouBeachTalents]

Celtics were hurt in 2012

Bulls were hurt in 2011... Oh wait
Who was injured on those two teams?

[3ba11]

Who was injured on those two teams?


Garnett/Allen/Pierce were 35/36/34 years old, so they were essentially useless and obviously banged up

And I didn't mean the 11' Bulls - I meant the 09' Magic were injured - they were missing their all-star point guard.. It's funny because those Magic were supposed to have the injury excuse when they lost as massive underdogs to the Cavs, but they still won despite being the injury team.. lol

[Wally450]

Garnett/Allen/Pierce were 35/36/34 years old, so they were essentially useless and obviously banged up


What terrible logic. :roll:

That's why they went 7 games with the eventual champions in the ECF.

[3ba11]

What terrible logic. :roll:


Players that are so old are invariably hurt - he was supposed to beat them as a massive favorite in 2010 but he averaged 21 on 34% for the last 3 games to lose a 2-1 lead

Lebron beat Garnett/Allen/Pierce when they were 35/36/34 years old, whilst Jordan beat Isiah/Dumars/Rodman when they were 29/27/29

[Hey Yo]

Garnett/Allen/Pierce were 35/36/34 years old, so they were essentially useless and obviously banged up

And I didn't mean the 11' Bulls - I meant the 09' Magic were injured - they were missing their all-star point guard.. It's funny because those Magic were supposed to have the injury excuse when they lost as massive underdogs to the Cavs, but they still won despite being the injury team.. lol

Extremely dumb ^^^^^ .... this thread is over.

[3ba11]

Extremely dumb ^^^^^ .... this thread is over.


The whole "injury ring" thing was a useless derail that no one won

Lebron has injury rings (2020, 2016) just like Curry (2015)

[SouBeachTalents]

Garnett/Allen/Pierce were 35/36/34 years old, so they were essentially useless and obviously banged up

And I didn't mean the 11' Bulls - I meant the 09' Magic were injured - they were missing their all-star point guard.. It's funny because those Magic were supposed to have the injury excuse when they lost as massive underdogs to the Cavs, but they still won despite being the injury team.. lol
I guess this invalidates Jordan’s last 2 titles since Utah’s key players were all that age as well. And I got to throw an asterisk on that first one since Worthy missed a game and Magic had HIV.

[3ba11]

I guess this invalidates Jordan’s last 2 titles since Utah’s key players were all that age as well. And I got to throw an asterisk on that first one since Worthy missed a game and Magic had HIV.


The point is that the 16' Warriors won 73 games via brand of ball and chemistry.. They didn't actually have a lot of scoring help and required Curry to carry a Jordan scoring burden - he wasn't good enough to play on this Jordan level until this year - he couldn't defeat maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load in Finals and carry secondary scorer at sidekick) until this year

[StrongLurk]

OP with another loser meltdown in his own thread.

What a little bitch troll.

[3ba11]

OP with another loser meltdown in his own thread.

What a little bitch troll.


You guys derailed the thread into who won more injury rings

But the original point was that the 16' Warriors won 73 games via brand of ball and chemistry.. They didn't actually have a lot of scoring help and required Curry to carry a Jordan scoring burden - he wasn't ready to play on this Jordan level until this year - he couldn't defeat maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load in Finals and carry secondary scorer at sidekick) until this year

[SouBeachTalents]

The point is that the 16' Warriors won 73 games via brand of ball and chemistry - they didn't have a lot of scoring help and required Curry to carry a Jordan scoring burden - he wasn't good enough to play on the Jordan level until this year
One very bad series doesn’t supersede a 90 game sample size. The difference between Curry’s 2016 season and this years is so monumental only a complete moron would try to actually make this argument :lol

[StrongLurk]

You guys derailed the thread into who won more injury rings

But the original point was that the 16' Warriors won 73 games via brand of ball and chemistry.. They didn't actually have a lot of scoring help and required Curry to carry a Jordan scoring burden - he wasn't ready to play on this Jordan level until this year - he couldn't defeat maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load in Finals and carry secondary scorer at sidekick) until this year

Your threads start off derailed because your just a little bitch troll constantly flip flopping and contradicting yourself depending on which players you are talking about.

[SouBeachTalents]

Your threads start off derailed because your just a little bitch troll constantly flip flopping and contradicting yourself depending on which players you are talking about.
Hence the player in question, his most shameless flip flop. Either that or Giannis.

[3ba11]

Your threads start off derailed because your just a little bitch troll constantly flip flopping and contradicting yourself depending on which players you are talking about.


I'm extremely consistent on defeating maximum defensive attention (carrying scoring load in Finals)

If you can't carry the scoring load in the Finals, then you need more help, specifically an all-time scorer and elite 1st option as sidekick.. You can't win with less help, aka a secondary producer like Wiggins

Lebron can't carry the scoring load in Finals because his ball-dominance can't carry the scoring load with sufficient brand to beat Finals teams... Otoh, off-ball experts like Curry/MJ carry the scoring load with sufficient brand to beat Finals teams, so they can win with secondary scorers at sidekick like Wiggins or Pippen

[tpols]

What terrible logic. :roll:

That's why they went 7 games with the eventual champions in the ECF.

Big 3 Celtics were clearly washed up by 2012... This is dangerous misinformation. Rondo was their best player by then. Going up against prime Wade and LeBron. It shouldn't have even gone that far.

[StrongLurk]

I'm extremely consistent on defeating maximum defensive attention (carrying scoring load in Finals)

If you can't carry the scoring load in the Finals, then you need more help, specifically an all-time scorer and elite 1st option as sidekick.

Lebron can't carry the scoring load in Finals because his ball-dominance can't carry the scoring load with sufficient brand to beat Finals teams... Otoh, off-ball experts like Curry/MJ carry the scoring load with sufficient brand to beat Finals teams, so they can win with secondary scorers at sidekick like Wiggins or Pippen

You are not consistent at all. You've even admitted that you are CONSTANTLY changing your basketball evaluation criteria (and we all know THAT criteria only exists to tear down Lebron).

The only thing you are consistent at (over 10 years) is spamming/trolling nba forums because you refuse to seek therapy for your obsessiveness over Lebron/MJ.

[tpols]

They're destroying them in any year without the Draymond suspension

So the 2022 Warriors with an improved Curry (Jordan-level and making every big shot) would demolish the Cavs

Non-hoopers just don't realize that Curry is far better now than he's ever been

They were destroying them before the suspension as well. Their 1st 3 wins were all blowouts.

But it is true Curry this year showed a GOAT resiliency he didn't have in 2016.

Imagine if Curry dropped 30/7/6 on 63 TS in the 2016 Finals... it wouldve been a sweep or 5 game series.

[3ba11]

You are not consistent at all. You've even admitted that you are CONSTANTLY changing your basketball evaluation criteria (and we all know THAT criteria only exists to tear down Lebron).

The only thing you are consistent at (over 10 years) is spamming/trolling nba forums because you refuse to seek therapy for your obsessiveness over Lebron/MJ.


Accept that Lebron can't defeat maximum defensive attention (can't carry scoring load in Finals) and therefore needs more help - specifically, he needs an all-time scorer and elite 1st option at sidekick that nearly matches his Finals scoring - he can't win with a secondary producer that averages far less in the Finals like Klay, Wiggins or Pippen

Lebron can't carry the scoring load in Finals because his ball-dominance can't carry the scoring load with sufficient brand to beat Finals teams... Otoh, off-ball experts like Curry/MJ carry the scoring load with sufficient brand to beat Finals teams, so they can win with secondary scorers at sidekick like Wiggins or Pippen

[StrongLurk]

Accept that Lebron can't defeat maximum defensive attention (can't carry scoring load in Finals) and therefore needs more help - specifically, he needs an all-time scorer and elite 1st option at sidekick that nearly matches his Finals scoring - he can't win with a secondary producer that averages far less in the Finals like Klay, Wiggins or Pippen

Lebron can't carry the scoring load in Finals because his ball-dominance can't carry the scoring load with sufficient brand to beat Finals teams... Otoh, off-ball experts like Curry/MJ carry the scoring load with sufficient brand to beat Finals teams, so they can win with secondary scorers at sidekick like Wiggins or Pippen

I summarized your post in thread cliffs earlier. Here it is again.

Lebron has 5 rings/5 FMVPs then since we know the 15 Warriors only won due to Love/Kyrie injuries.

Thanks OP.

[3ba11]

I summarized your post in thread cliffs earlier. Here it is again.

Lebron has 5 rings/5 FMVPs then since we know the 15 Warriors only won due to Love/Kyrie injuries.

Thanks OP.


Yes but now we must subtract the 2020 and 2016 injury rings, which puts him back to 3 rings, or half the goat standard

[3ba11]

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Thread Cliffs


The media doesn't realize that Curry dominated at a Jordan level in these playoffs and hadn't previously

Curry's title run reached the Jordan standard of domination: winning with a secondary scorer at sidekick (Wiggins, Pippen, etc) while defeating maximum defensive attention (carrying scoring load in Finals).

[red1]

baldan was a great sidekick to pippen



great wingman for the real ladies man.

[And1AllDay]

some things never change :oldlol:


2ball crying again wahts new

[Gohan]

baldan was a great sidekick to pippen



great wingman for the real ladies man.

Pippen aint no ladies man ask future

[aj1987]

They were destroying them before the suspension as well. Their 1st 3 wins were all blowouts.

But it is true Curry this year showed a GOAT resiliency he didn't have in 2016.

Imagine if Curry dropped 30/7/6 on 63 TS in the 2016 Finals... it wouldve been a sweep or 5 game series.

Are you on crack? The Warriors won the first two games with him scoring 14.5 PPG on 56% TS%. They lost G6 with him scoring 30 on 65% TS%.

LMAO.

The Celtics did not have the offense to match the Warriors'. The Cavs had LeBron and Kyrie.

The Celtics went to 6 games with their best player shooting ~36%. The '16 Cavs wreck these Warriors in 5.


I guess this invalidates Jordan’s last 2 titles since Utah’s key players were all that age as well. And I got to throw an asterisk on that first one since Worthy missed a game and Magic had HIV.

He will never answer this straight up. The little dork is a worthless POS. Best to ignore him.

[DMAVS41]

Curry obviously didn't play his best ball, but these narratives are so stupid.

You can even ignore the Draymond suspension.

The reason the Warriors lost that series, outside of Lebron being great (it shouldn't have been enough), was because Harrison Barnes literally forgot how to play basketball. He shot 5 of 32 the last 3 games and like 90% of his looks were wide open. That is what killed the Warriors.

Even for great teams...it is hard to win when a guy averaging 30 mpg or whatever he did in that series...plays as poorly as he did.

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

Curry obviously didn't play his best ball, but these narratives are so stupid.

You can even ignore the Draymond suspension.

The reason the Warriors lost that series, outside of Lebron being great (it shouldn't have been enough), was because Harrison Barnes literally forgot how to play basketball. He shot 5 of 32 the last 3 games and like 90% of his looks were wide open. That is what killed the Warriors.

Even for great teams...it is hard to win when a guy averaging 30 mpg or whatever he did in that series...plays as poorly as he did.


My blood started boiling again watching those wide-open bricks on Twitter. Not all bricks are equal. You could see that the Cavs had gotten in his head because instead of closing out hard, you had people like TT just jogging up to him or sometimes not even closing out at all. Additionally, each of those bricks had a thunk sound whenever they bounced off. I don't know why he couldn't take a few dribbles in, set his feet, calm himself and shoot a wide-open mid-range shot. They showed no attempt to guard him.

[NBAGOAT]

People overlook love was injured in the finals. He was healthy in 17 so that offsets gs playing bad a bit. I do still disagree with draymond warriors can beat the cavs without kd however

[ShawkFactory]

Steph in the 2016 playoffs: 25.1ppg on 44%

Klay in the 2016 playoffs: 24.3ppg on 45%

Only 1 go-to player?

[StrongLurk]

Steph in the 2016 playoffs: 25.1ppg on 44%

Klay in the 2016 playoffs: 24.3ppg on 45%

Only 1 go-to player?

Don't worry, OP doesn't care about Curry at all. OP made this thread to talk about MJ again.