PDA

View Full Version : Breaking: Gobert+Xiao to Wolves for Beverley, Beasley, Vanderbilt, Kessler and 4 1sts



RRR3
07-01-2022, 03:42 PM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1542955673880825856?s=21&t=jr0CWjywg8gmCVPdwxnnzw

Leandro Bolmaro also to the Jazz

Kings2024Champs
07-01-2022, 03:45 PM
Jazz would rather tank for Wembayana than have Gobert???? Oof :lol

Overdrive
07-01-2022, 03:46 PM
Xiao on suicide watch.

How can an ATG like Gobert only land them role players?

FultzNationRISE
07-01-2022, 03:52 PM
Feels like a pretty ‘meh’ haul for Toodles.

I guess it’s a good trade for the Wolves altho Im not convinced it gives them any more playoff potency.

RRR3
07-01-2022, 03:52 PM
Xiao on suicide watch.

How can an ATG like Gobert only land them role players?
They got 4 firsts. And a player drafted in the first this past draft. If the Wolves don’t become a power house that’s gonna be good. And they’re also probably tanking for a great pick next year too.

FultzNationRISE
07-01-2022, 03:53 PM
They got 4 firsts. And a player drafted in the first this past draft. If the Wolves don’t become a power house that’s gonna be good. And they’re also probably tanking for a great pick next year too.

FOUR firsts??

Ok I guess thats a decent grab.

Kblaze8855
07-01-2022, 03:54 PM
I suppose KAT gets the 240 million soon to make sure they stay talented enough for those picks to not matter.

Good big 3.

Overdrive
07-01-2022, 03:55 PM
They got 4 firsts. And a player drafted in the first this past draft. If the Wolves don’t become a power house that’s gonna be good. And they’re also probably tanking for a great pick next year too.

Yeah, depends how good the Wolves become, what year's picks these are, but Xiao argues Rudy is the best C im the NBA and Utah franchise cornerstone. You don't trade that away for picks and role players. Especially if that player is that good the picks would become mid first rounders at best.

Mask the Embiid
07-01-2022, 03:55 PM
That’s all toody goes for? A can of Campbell soup(not even chunky), 3 pack of noworlaters and one small red quarter juice



Teh….could neva be us

1987_Lakers
07-01-2022, 03:56 PM
Basically 5 first round picks for Gobert? Take it and run. Ainge sure loves those picks.

AlternativeAcc.
07-01-2022, 03:57 PM
:roll:

Wolves got fukking robbed.

They'll never win shit and this sets them back 20 years. Holy ****.

Mask the Embiid
07-01-2022, 03:58 PM
Basically 5 first round picks for Gobert? Take it and run. Ainge sure loves those picks.

Man those picks are worthless if it’s not a top 4 pick, stop trying to spin this into something good….the jazz blew it! XIAO THEY BLEWWWWWW IT!

https://i.postimg.cc/bwzHgT18/2-D84-EAF2-43-D3-4-BFD-A403-27-E0-BAB117-CD.gif

Kblaze8855
07-01-2022, 04:04 PM
So did Utah pay any of that 200 million? Was the first year 2022 or next year? He’s making 47 million in 26 I see. They duck the whole extension or just most of it? I think this year was the first.

eliteballer
07-01-2022, 04:07 PM
Mitchell next?

FireDavidKahn
07-01-2022, 04:09 PM
HOLY ****ING SHIT

This should cement us as a top 4 team in the conference.

D'Lo
Edwards
McDaniels
Kat
Gobert

The fact we didn't have to trade McDaniels:banana:

That is one ****ing nice lineup

bison
07-01-2022, 04:11 PM
daaaaamn thats a lot of picks. so you KNOW that haul for KD is gonna be massive

DMAVS41
07-01-2022, 04:11 PM
Probably a good trade for both sides, but hard not to love it for Minny... could be a title contender if Edwards plays at the level he did in the playoffs this year.

DMAVS41
07-01-2022, 04:15 PM
daaaaamn thats a lot of picks. so you KNOW that haul for KD is gonna be massive

Great young player or two plus 4 unprotected firsts seems to be likely.

I initially thought a team wouldn't mortgage their future for a 34 year old Durant...but I guess it sounds like teams might. Crazy.

PeroAntic
07-01-2022, 04:15 PM
How do you have two flat footed oak trees in Gobert and KAT defending the perimeter? Wolves will be #1 in opponent 3pt percentage smh

warriorfan
07-01-2022, 04:17 PM
Utah got a lot for Rudy since their leverage was pretty shot. Rudy basically demanded a trade at this point when him and Mitchell were beefing all last year. Didn’t they both even come out and say that they weren’t going to play with eachother?

RRR3
07-01-2022, 04:19 PM
How do you have two flat footed oak trees in Gobert and KAT defending the perimeter? Wolves will be #1 in opponent 3pt percentage smh
KAT can guard the perimeter, try watching something besides highlights of 2011 Rose.

Xiao Yao You
07-01-2022, 04:23 PM
can't quit me!

Xiao Yao You
07-01-2022, 04:25 PM
Thanks for everything Rudy. You took a horrible team and made them good. Not every day a statue is traded. Minnesota with a big 4?

Xiao Yao You
07-01-2022, 04:28 PM
How do you have two flat footed oak trees in Gobert and KAT defending the perimeter? Wolves will be #1 in opponent 3pt percentage smh

never saw Gobert play apparently? Maybe they can pick up Jabari to help them!

RRR3
07-01-2022, 04:28 PM
Walker Kessler the 22nd pick in the draft was acquired in the Rudy trade. He is 7 feet tall and led the NCAA in blocks. In fact he had more blocks than all but 13 ncaa teams. Potential Rudy replacement.

Kblaze8855
07-01-2022, 04:33 PM
Thanks for everything Rudy. You took a horrible team and made them good.



https://www.hostpic.org/images/2207020201330328.jpeg




Won less playoff series in Utah than Carlos Boozer did in far less years.

DMAVS41
07-01-2022, 04:34 PM
https://www.hostpic.org/images/2207020201330328.jpeg




Won less playoff series in Utah than Carlos Boozer did in far less years.



:basketball

NugzFan
07-01-2022, 04:35 PM
Thanks for everything Rudy. You took a horrible team and made them good. Not every day a statue is traded. Minnesota with a big 4?


Who’s the 4th?

Kblaze8855
07-01-2022, 04:37 PM
Russell I assume. That would be 4 all stars. Certainly a great 2K lineup.

FireDavidKahn
07-01-2022, 04:41 PM
Thanks for everything Rudy. You took a horrible team and made them good. Not every day a statue is traded. Minnesota with a big 4?

PG: Russell, McLaughlin
SG: Edwards, Nowell
SF: McDaniels, Prince
PF: Towns, Anderson
C: Gobert, Reid

That is a great roster...

Xiao Yao You
07-01-2022, 04:42 PM
So for the 5th time the Jazz get rid of their best player. This is is the 1st statue they've traded though.

Dantley for Tripuka/Benson. Chose comedian Layden over one of the great low post scorers ever. Horrible return especially since Layden wouldn't play Tripuka who was a lot better than I thought despite them giving him Dantley's number instead of hanging it in the rafters immediately. Liked the one year of Kent Benson. Luckily they had two of the greatest players ever waiting in the wings.

Karl Malone allowed to go for a ring. Selfish Kobe said no. Jazz tank hard. AK like Gobert would carry a crappy team on his back and just missied the playoffs with one of the worst talented teams ever.

Williams for Harris/Favors/Kanter/shit! They took the 2nd offer on the table from the only team that knew Williams was available. Harris was one of my least favorite Jazz players. He sucked! Just an awful trade!

Letting Millsap walk so future stars Favors and Kanter could get to work. Can only dream of what Gobert/Millsap would have been instead of Favors spotting up for 3 in the corner!

Statue traded so inefficient gunner is happy. The return remains to be seen. Maybe Kessler or someone will be able to carry them someday. Mitchell can't!

Xiao Yao You
07-01-2022, 04:43 PM
https://www.hostpic.org/images/2207020201330328.jpeg




Won less playoff series in Utah than Carlos Boozer did in far less years.

and Boozer like Mitchell were carried by other players

ImKobe
07-01-2022, 04:43 PM
End of an era.

Xiao Yao You
07-01-2022, 04:47 PM
Where are Beasley, Beverley, Conley, Clarkson, Bojan and Gay headed now?

tontoz
07-01-2022, 04:47 PM
Thought this was a troll thread when i saw Xiao in the title. :oldlol:

Xiao Yao You
07-01-2022, 04:50 PM
Thought this was a troll thread when i saw Xiao in the title. :oldlol:

a troll started the thread yes

Taurus
07-01-2022, 04:55 PM
PG: Russell, McLaughlin
SG: Edwards, Nowell
SF: McDaniels, Prince
PF: Towns, Anderson
C: Gobert, Reid

That is a great roster...

I still think D'lo sucks, but his contract is expiring this year which opens up a lot of possibilities

Kblaze8855
07-01-2022, 04:55 PM
Who is the worst player to get a statue?

The worst I can find might actually be John Stockton who obviously did deserve one. He and Pippen are the only non mvp types I can find who have one.

Wade have one in Miami yet? Lowry got a joke portable one for a minute but I mean real ones.

Xiao Yao You
07-01-2022, 05:09 PM
Stockton > Pippen

Xiao Yao You
07-01-2022, 05:10 PM
Rudy Gobert is the third best player in Utah Jazz history and a remarkable success story. Best of luck to a guy who gave everything to this team and market from the day he landed here. https://t.co/XhQX1PD6iP

— Spence Checketts (@spencechecketts) July 1, 2022 (https://twitter.com/spencechecketts/status/1542956551882678272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)



some have been paying attention anyway

Xiao Yao You
07-01-2022, 05:11 PM
Since the 2016-17 season, Rudy Gobert ranks across the league:

1st in Defensive Win Shares (29.3)
1st in Blocks (992)
2nd in Rebounds (5521)
3rd in True Shooting % (.689)
4th in Effective FG% (.673)@Timberwolves (https://twitter.com/Timberwolves?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) | #NBA (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NBA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) pic.twitter.com/6ZLnVAMAMR (https://t.co/6ZLnVAMAMR)
— Basketball Reference (@bball_ref) July 1, 2022 (https://twitter.com/bball_ref/status/1542969996787294208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)



Minny becomes one of the top defensive teams while the Jazz become one of the worst

ImKobe
07-01-2022, 05:30 PM
Minny becomes one of the top defensive teams while the Jazz become one of the worst

Bro the Jazz just fleeced the Wolves with all those picks lmao, look at the trade package. Who cares about the next season, you guys made away like bandits and have more than enough assets to build a contender over the next 5 years. Rudy wasn't going to be the best player on a title team so who the **** cares if you no longer have him.

Now the Wolves are going to have the same issue with Rudy in the POs, I guess at least they can go "small" with Towns but there's a lot for opposing teams to take advantage of.

Xiao Yao You
07-01-2022, 05:32 PM
Bro the Jazz just fleeced the Wolves with all those picks lmao, look at the trade package. Who cares about the next season, you guys made away like bandits and have more than enough assets to build a contender over the next 5 years. Rudy wasn't going to be the best player on a title team so who the **** cares if you no longer have him.

Now the Wolves are going to have the same issue with Rudy in the POs, I guess at least they can go "small" with Towns but there's a lot for opposing teams to take advantage of.

we'll see if they fleeced them in the years to come. Chances of anyone in that package being better than Gobert is slim. Going to take a lot losing to find the next franchise player. Mitchell certainly isn't one

Xiao Yao You
07-01-2022, 05:34 PM
Bro the Jazz just fleeced the Wolves with all those picks lmao, look at the trade package. Who cares about the next season, you guys made away like bandits and have more than enough assets to build a contender over the next 5 years. Rudy wasn't going to be the best player on a title team so who the **** cares if you no longer have him.

Now the Wolves are going to have the same issue with Rudy in the POs, I guess at least they can go "small" with Towns but there's a lot for opposing teams to take advantage of.

We'll see what issues he has. The issues have been him not being able to guard all 5 opposing players and his 'star' not passing him the ball

Xiao Yao You
07-01-2022, 05:37 PM
New Jazz guard Patrick Beverley responded to Friday's blockbuster trade that is sending him to Utah and center Rudy Gobert to Minnesota, by stating on Twitter, it's, "Time to take another team 2 Playoffs"


Always business. Wolves 🐺 Thank You❤️. Time to take another team 2 Playoffs
— Patrick Beverley (@patbev21) July 1, 2022 (https://twitter.com/patbev21/status/1542972457128271873?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)


sounds like he knows something we don't. Where's he headed? He's someone I thought would have fit in Utah for many years. That time has obviously passed

Kblaze8855
07-01-2022, 05:38 PM
We'll see what issues he has. The issues have been him not being able to guard all 5 opposing players and his 'star' not passing him the ball

Did you want them posting Rudy up? Have him faceup? What did you think he should have been doing on offense other than rolling hard and dunking a lot? He led the league in dunks for like 5 years. He scored quite a bit for his skill set. You wanted him to be an iso scorer? I’m genuinely curious.

Xiao Yao You
07-01-2022, 05:40 PM
Did you want them posting Rudy up? Have him faceup? What did you think he should have been doing on offense other than rolling hard and dunking a lot? He led the league in dunks for like 5 years. He scored quite a bit for his skill set. You wanted him to be an iso scorer? I’m genuinely curious.

When you switch a little guy on to him get him the ball or take a 30 footer?

ImKobe
07-01-2022, 05:46 PM
we'll see if they fleeced them in the years to come. Chances of anyone in that package being better than Gobert is slim. Going to take a lot losing to find the next franchise player. Mitchell certainly isn't one

The players in the package aren't impressive but the amount of picks the Wolves just gave up is insane man. All unprotected besides the 2029 which is only top 5 protected as well and you got a 1st from the Nets too which was another great trade. I'm excited to see what they build around Mitchell.

Kblaze8855
07-01-2022, 05:47 PM
Looking for the post mismatch really isn’t 2022 basketball. I just watched Al Horford not even try to score on Steph in the post while looney did the same on the other end when he had chances. Hard to say it’s a Jazz thing. Nobody cares if a Rudy or Clint Capela type has a mismatch. In 1987 of course he gets the ball but that just isn’t a shot anyone in 2022 is looking for.

1987_Lakers
07-01-2022, 05:49 PM
Looking for the post mismatch really isn’t 2022 basketball. I just watched Al Horford not even try to score on Steph in the post. Hard to say it’s a Jazz thing. Nobody cares if a Rudy or Clint Capela type has a mismatch. In 1987 of course he gets the ball but that just isn’t a shot anyone in 2022 is looking for.

This is something I've also noticed about today's league. It kinda bugs me. You see smart teams do it from time to time, but the young/inexperienced ones are clueless.

Proctor
07-01-2022, 05:53 PM
If Gobert was special, Jazz would have never done this. Seems like they know something we all know!

200mil. Thanks Minny!

Axe
07-01-2022, 06:29 PM
Towns and edwards ready for some scapegoating. :milton

coin24
07-01-2022, 06:43 PM
That’s a big payroll for minny.. not sure gobert was the piece they need

Overdrive
07-01-2022, 07:32 PM
When you switch a little guy on to him get him the ball or take a 30 footer?

And then? If it's not directly under the basket he's limited even against smaller guys. Shoulf he just back them down to the basket?

PeroAntic
07-01-2022, 08:29 PM
never saw Gobert play apparently? Maybe they can pick up Jabari to help them!

This clown makes literally the same Jabari comment every time when quoting a post of mine. One trick pony just like his idol.

Neither Toody nor KAT are switchable to shooters, they are both post defenders. Both have been exposed in situations like these. A good balanced team can survive with one player like but not with two. They arent winning the chip, not by a long shot.

Xiao Yao You
07-01-2022, 08:33 PM
This clown makes literally the same Jabari comment every time when quoting a post of mine. One trick pony just like his idol.

Neither Toody nor KAT are switchable to shooters, they are both post defenders. Both have been exposed in situations like these. A good balanced team can survive with one player like but not with two. They arent winning the chip, not by a long shot.

no I've used Rose as well! Gobert has been one of the best iso defenders in the league. His problem has been not being able to guard 5 guys at once. He's mortal! Unlike Jabari he's at least in the league!

outofstomach
07-01-2022, 08:39 PM
That’s all toody goes for? A can of Campbell soup(not even chunky), 3 pack of noworlaters and one small red quarter juice



Teh….could neva be us

:lol

Im Still Ballin
07-01-2022, 10:00 PM
This clown makes literally the same Jabari comment every time when quoting a post of mine. One trick pony just like his idol.

Neither Toody nor KAT are switchable to shooters, they are both post defenders. Both have been exposed in situations like these. A good balanced team can survive with one player like but not with two. They arent winning the chip, not by a long shot.

Clearly you haven't watched KAT this season. He's actually better defending the perimeter, believe it or not. This is a great fit.

Xiao Yao You
07-01-2022, 11:41 PM
Clearly you haven't watched KAT this season. He's actually better defending the perimeter, believe it or not. This is a great fit.

Can he guard the rim when Rudy has to guard the perimeter?

zeerghit
07-01-2022, 11:48 PM
Can he guard the rim when Rudy has to guard the perimeter?

:roll::roll:

AirBonner
07-01-2022, 11:54 PM
Rudy and his matador defense

SATAN
07-02-2022, 12:00 AM
This is interesting. Looking forward to watching some Timberwolves games and seeing how it pans out.

Spurs m8
07-02-2022, 03:17 AM
I cannot believe how much Minny sent to the Jazz :roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

One of the biggest robberies I've ever seen

Minny will never get anywhere, ever, no wonder they celebrated the play-in like a championship...that WAS their championship

warriorfan
07-02-2022, 04:02 AM
I cannot believe how much Minny sent to the Jazz :roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

One of the biggest robberies I've ever seen

Minny will never get anywhere, ever, no wonder they celebrated the play-in like a championship...that WAS their championship
Ya some clowns earlier ITT were trying to say that’s it? Min gave up a kings random for Rudy. Lol.

Spurs m8
07-02-2022, 05:57 AM
Ya some clowns earlier ITT were trying to say that’s it? Min gave up a kings random for Rudy. Lol.

This forum man....no wonder these guys don't leave their basements...they don't have the ability.

Xiao Yao You
07-02-2022, 03:51 PM
Marc J. Spears: With Rudy Gobert gone, Jazz checking out another giant in 7-6 free agent center Tacko Fall. Fall is playing on Utah’s summer league team and is connected to Danny Ainge dating back to his time with the Celtics (https://*********.com/social/).

– via Twitter MarcJSpears (https://twitter.com/MarcJSpears)



won't miss a beat in Utah!:lol

WhiteKyrie
07-02-2022, 06:27 PM
Xiao having a melt down. Mitchell is their best player, so keep it moving

Xiao Yao You
07-02-2022, 06:36 PM
Xiao having a melt down. Mitchell is their best player, so keep it moving

and yet they have sucked with Mitchell leading them and no Gobert. Funny how that works

Axe
07-02-2022, 07:07 PM
After almost a decade playing in the league he still hasn't lead them to the conference finals.

Xiao Yao You
07-02-2022, 07:10 PM
After almost a decade playing in the league he still hasn't lead them to the conference finals.

upset once without their 2nd best player. Pulled two upsets. Overachieved with the team he had around him. Certainly the most talented team he's been on right now

Axe
07-02-2022, 07:16 PM
upset once without their 2nd best player. Pulled two upsets. Overachieved with the team he had around him. Certainly the most talented team he's been on right now
Future mvp! No excuses. ;)