Minnesota's defense is going to be GOATED next season

[Im Still Ballin]

Took me awhile to spot Rudy.

https://i.redd.it/7mjjdboxcd991.jpg

[Xiao Yao You]

just another big!

[TAZORAC]

If he could hit the 3, the Timberwolves could make noise next season

[ImKobe]

A defense starring Edwards, Russell and Towns is going to be GOATED? Good luck.

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they lost beverley and vanderbilt who were two of their best defenders

gobert should make them a better team but my guess is they won't win

might depend on how good edwards becomes in the next few years

[Xiao Yao You]

A defense starring Edwards, Russell and Towns is going to be GOATED? Good luck.

Rudy's done it with less :cheers:

[Akeem34TheDream]

Why would it be significantly better than Utah's last year?

[Im Still Ballin]

Top 5... Maybe. We'll see. I'd be shocked if worse than 8th.

[Xiao Yao You]

Why would it be significantly better than Utah's last year?

new coach. No Mitchell and Clarkson, Rudy's pissed off and still hasn't peaked

[ImKobe]

Rudy's done it with less :cheers:

I love D'Lo and Towns as players but they're not going to be apart of an elite defense with the current roster. At best I think Minny is somewhere around 10th on that end unless they move D'Lo and add some wings. They traded two really good defensive players to get Rudy. They're still going to have the same issues on D in the POs as they don't have enough D on the perimeter, so Rudy again is forced to cover up for everyone's shortcomings and they might be forced to bench him to have enough on offense as Rudy will clog up the paint on O.

[FKAri]

Towns' biggest issue is team defense. Having bad team defense is the hardest thing to hide and it makes the other defenders around you less effective. Towns is such a frustrating player to watch because it's constant mental lapses and absent mindedness. Hard to believe that this guy went #1 largely off of his defensive up side.

[Xiao Yao You]

Gobert hasn't had a starting 4 next to him the past 3 years. Really other than the corpse of Diaw fo a few months he never has had a modern one. Now he will have one of the best 4's in the game next to him. Not having to grab every rebound should help Gobert defensively

[AlternativeAcc.]

Poor man's Tyson Chandler ain't gonna change that much.

But he's lucky to be playing next to KAT because KAT can do everything offensively, whereas Gobert can't do anything. So it's a good fit

[post]

I love D'Lo and Towns as players but they're not going to be apart of an elite defense with the current roster. At best I think Minny is somewhere around 10th on that end unless they move D'Lo and add some wings. They traded two really good defensive players to get Rudy. They're still going to have the same issues on D in the POs as they don't have enough D on the perimeter, so Rudy again is forced to cover up for everyone's shortcomings and they might be forced to bench him to have enough on offense as Rudy will clog up the paint on O.

i doubt they'll bench him

he is number 1 all time in true shooting percentage after all and towns is the goat outside shooting big

[post]

Towns' biggest issue is team defense. Having bad team defense is the hardest thing to hide and it makes the other defenders around you less effective. Towns is such a frustrating player to watch because it's constant mental lapses and absent mindedness. Hard to believe that this guy went #1 largely off of his defensive up side.

yeah his defense seems to fluctuate year to year to some extent but was never that good overall

you could say he shows signs but it's hard for any player to put it all together at the same time on both ends

[Xiao Yao You]

i doubt they'll bench him

he is number 1 all time in true shooting percentage after all and towns is the goat outside shooting big

facts aren't going to change anything for people that think Gobert sucks

[ImKobe]

i doubt they'll bench him

he is number 1 all time in true shooting percentage after all and towns is the goat outside shooting big

They might be forced to if the defense isn't working as they exploit the weaknesses around him and his lack of scoring/shooting ability is hindering the offense. Utah didn't have the option to really go small and be more effective but the Wolves can play that card with Towns at the 5 when they need to.


yeah his defense seems to fluctuate year to year to some extent but was never that good overall

you could say he shows signs but it's hard for any player to put it all together at the same time on both ends

Towns is just a very dumb player in general. Edwards showed some of that when he had that critical mistake that left Ja Morant wide open which lost them one of those games in the POs. Overall the Wolves are very low IQ and Gobert alone isn't going to fix that. They'll be better in the RS but the weaknesses are still there man. That Grizzlies series melted my brain. Hopefully a lot of that can be fixed with experience and those guys maturing and maybe Gobert can be that leader in the locker room, but he doesn't come off as that type of a guy so the Wolves will be led by a 21 y.o Edwards who hasn't figured it all out yet either, but at least he has the right mentality.

[jayfan]

Gobert hasn't had a starting 4 next to him the past 3 years. Really other than the corpse of Diaw fo a few months he never has had a modern one. Now he will have one of the best 4's in the game next to him. Not having to grab every rebound should help Gobert defensively


One of the best offensive 4's, maybe. Defensively, no. And teams will have Towns drawn/switched out to the perimeter all game long.

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[post]

They might be forced to if the defense isn't working as they exploit the weaknesses around him and his lack of scoring/shooting ability is hindering the offense. Utah didn't have the option to really go small and be more effective but the Wolves can play that card with Towns at the 5 when they need to.



Towns is just a very dumb player in general. Edwards showed some of that when he had that critical mistake that left Ja Morant wide open which lost them one of those games in the POs. Overall the Wolves are very low IQ and Gobert alone isn't going to fix that. They'll be better in the RS but the weaknesses are still there man. That Grizzlies series melted my brain. Hopefully a lot of that can be fixed with experience and those guys maturing and maybe Gobert can be that leader in the locker room, but he doesn't come off as that type of a guy so the Wolves will be led by a 21 y.o Edwards who hasn't figured it all out yet either, but at least he has the right mentality.

let me put it this way

if they bench gobert for whatever reason they definitely aren't winning

pointing out limitations is fine but it's almost inconceivable they bench a future hall of famer still in his prime who's also the team's highest paid player

[FireDavidKahn]

they lost beverley and vanderbilt who were two of their best defenders

gobert should make them a better team but my guess is they won't win

might depend on how good edwards becomes in the next few years

Clearly you've never heard of McDaniels.

Kyle Anderson is another really good defensive player.

Our defense will be just fine.

[FireDavidKahn]

I love D'Lo and Towns as players but they're not going to be apart of an elite defense with the current roster. At best I think Minny is somewhere around 10th on that end unless they move D'Lo and add some wings. They traded two really good defensive players to get Rudy. They're still going to have the same issues on D in the POs as they don't have enough D on the perimeter, so Rudy again is forced to cover up for everyone's shortcomings and they might be forced to bench him to have enough on offense as Rudy will clog up the paint on O.

We were 13th last year:roll:

Removing Bev and Vando and replacing them with Gobert and adding Kyle Anderson barely makes them any better in your eyes?

:roll::roll::roll:

[post]

Clearly you've never heard of McDaniels.

Kyle Anderson is another really good defensive player.

Our defense will be just fine.

i know a bit about mcdaniels

one of their better defenders last year

but it's hard to say he's anything other than a bad overall player at this point

yes i saw a bit earlier they picked up anderson recently but he seems inconsistent but better on defense than offense

say what you will but the numbers tell you a good bit about what's going on out there

[TAZORAC]

Towns' biggest issue is team defense. Having bad team defense is the hardest thing to hide and it makes the other defenders around you less effective. Towns is such a frustrating player to watch because it's constant mental lapses and absent mindedness. Hard to believe that this guy went #1 largely off of his defensive up side.

KAT has Carmelo Anthony level laterial quickness, thats why he sucks at team defense.

[FireDavidKahn]

i know a bit about mcdaniels

one of their better defenders last year

but it's hard to say he's anything other than a bad overall player at this point

yes i saw a bit earlier they picked up anderson recently but he seems inconsistent but better on defense than offense

say what you will but the numbers tell you a good bit about what's going on out there

The topic was defense.

[post]

The topic was defense.

that's nice

and i'm giving my honest opinion about how good their team probably is overall at the moment

gobert just turned 30 so if edwards is going to become a 30 ppg scorer and decent defender he better do it sooner than later for your sake

[Xiao Yao You]

One of the best offensive 4's, maybe. Defensively, no. And teams will have Towns drawn/switched out to the perimeter all game long.

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now we care about D? He just made all NBA again. Either D matters or it doesn't

[Full Court]

If he could hit the 3, the Timberwolves could make noise next season

He doesn't need to be hitting 3s. He needs to be a consistent scorer in the paint.

[Xiao Yao You]

He doesn't need to be hitting 3s. He needs to be a consistent scorer in the paint.

they have plenty of scoring. He'll do plenty though

[Jasper]

unless Towns becomes Bolt this summer , he will do a lot of matador moves

[FireDavidKahn]

unless Towns becomes Bolt this summer , he will do a lot of matador moves

Oh, no...KAT, who is known as a bad defender, is going to be exposed as a................................................. ......bad defender????

OH
MY
****ING
GOD

[Charlie Sheen]

unless Towns becomes Bolt this summer , he will do a lot of matador moves

That is Rudy's value. You pay him to reduce the penalty of playing highly skilled offensive players who are lazy or incompetent defenders.

[Derka]

they lost beverley and vanderbilt who were two of their best defenders

This right here. They're graduating to first round fodder unless they get some wing defense in there soon.

[theman93]

How are KAT and Gobert going to guard the perimeter? Lol this will be a disaster

[Xiao Yao You]

How are KAT and Gobert going to guard the perimeter? Lol this will be a disaster

Rudy has no problem on the perimeter. Who guards the rim when he's out there has been the issue

[Axe]

How are KAT and Gobert going to guard the perimeter? Lol this will be a disaster
Never doubt the cumbersome big man with the best offensive impact, coach!

[jayfan]

now we care about D? He just made all NBA again. Either D matters or it doesn't


Whatever the subject of a thread happens to be, we tend to talk about that subject within the thread.

Here, the subject of the thread is D. So yes, we're talking about D in this thread.


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[Xiao Yao You]

Whatever the subject of a thread happens to be, we tend to talk about that subject within the thread.

Here, the subject of the thread is D. So yes, we're talking about D in this thread.


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No I called him one of the best PF's in the game. Either he is or he isn't. D is rarely brought into those conversations.

[ImKobe]

We were 13th last year:roll:

Removing Bev and Vando and replacing them with Gobert and adding Kyle Anderson barely makes them any better in your eyes?

:roll::roll::roll:

Around 10 so they could be 6-9 but I don't see them being top 5 or a truly elite defense with some of the guys they have. Edwards is too young and Russell & Towns are sub-par as defenders. They'll still be very good in the RS with the talent they have so I'm excited to see how it compares to the Gobert teams in Utah but I see the same flaws, and I'm not sure they're going to have a #1 offense like the Jazz did.

[Xiao Yao You]

Around 10 so they could be 6-9 but I don't see them being top 5 or a truly elite defense with some of the guys they have. Edwards is too young and Russell & Towns are sub-par as defenders. They'll still be very good in the RS with the talent they have so I'm excited to see how it compares to the Gobert teams in Utah but I see the same flaws, and I'm not sure they're going to have a #1 offense like the Jazz did.

the time for Edwards to grow up has arrived

[k0kakw0rld]

A defense starring Edwards, Russell and Towns is going to be GOATED? Good luck.

Anthony Edwards can't possibly be worse than D. Mitchell defensively :confusedshrug:

[ImKobe]

Anthony Edwards can't possibly be worse than D. Mitchell defensively :confusedshrug:

D.Mitchell was supposed to be a defensive specialist and look where he is now. Edwards has mad potential and I think he'll develop into a decent enough defender but the mental lapses are still there and you can't expect him to have it all figured out at this age. He needs to have a Kobe-like leap in his early 20s to really put the Wolves into contention status.


the time for Edwards to grow up has arrived


Sure, but you got people making excuses for Tatum at age 24 so the timeline with Edwards and Gobert isn't ideal. Gobert is great but he's not going to carry the team on both ends so he needs Towns and Edwards to go to another level. I hope I'm wrong about this team as they've only made it out of the 1st round once in like 3 decades but we'll see.