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3ba11
07-05-2022, 03:12 AM
F'kin bum

Literally zero rookies or young players developed into viable producers on his watch, so he can't win organically.

His lacks the skills and IQ to have the teammate fits, development and brand of ball needed for organic winning.

Give a 5 year old the ball and they will immediately start pounding the rock - it's called ball-dominance and it's the easiest way to play - even a 5-year old can do it

Unfortunately, it lacks the teammate fits, teammate development and brand of ball to win organically, so ball-dominators need to be talent-based winners (team-hopping.. all-star team strategy) - indeed, guys like Luka, Lebron or Westbrook never learn how to win (organic.. chemistry) and are talent-based winners (all-star team strategy).

1987_Lakers
07-05-2022, 03:16 AM
1-9

SATAN
07-05-2022, 03:17 AM
1-9

Spurs m8
07-05-2022, 03:24 AM
So fvcking true.


Such a useless, entitled, selfish, fraudulent, b1tch

red1
07-05-2022, 08:10 AM
grocery bagging rivals for $500 please :roll:



https://i.postimg.cc/k5pXdN5h/Rivalry-Decade.jpg

Real Men Wear Green
07-05-2022, 09:18 AM
Kind of wonder if OP is suicidal. I have a wife and kids and I don't talk about them nearly as much as this guy talks about a man he hates. You can't have much going on in your life positive to obsess like this over someone who neither knows nor cares that you exist

StrongLurk
07-05-2022, 10:46 AM
OP with another meltdown :roll:

OP go get your mental health in check.

Wally450
07-05-2022, 11:50 AM
Seek help.

red1
07-05-2022, 11:57 AM
Kind of wonder if OP is suicidal. I have a wife and kids and I don't talk about them nearly as much as this guy talks about a man he hates. You can't have much going on in your life positive to obsess like this over someone who neither knows nor cares that you exist

:roll:

Axe
07-05-2022, 12:36 PM
Kind of wonder if OP is suicidal. I have a wife and kids and I don't talk about them nearly as much as this guy talks about a man he hates. You can't have much going on in your life positive to obsess like this over someone who neither knows nor cares that you exist
:lol

3ba11
07-05-2022, 12:45 PM
Kind of wonder if OP is suicidal. I have a wife and kids and I don't talk about them nearly as much as this guy talks about a man he hates. You can't have much going on in your life positive to obsess like this over someone who neither knows nor cares that you exist


Happy and successful people can post a lot on social media - and even about 1 topic!

Otoh, your attempt to turn a basketball take into a personal referendum speaks to a massive insecurity and beta mindset on your part

Real Men Wear Green
07-05-2022, 12:51 PM
Happy and successful people can post a lot on social media - and even about 1 topic!

Otoh, your attempt to turn a basketball take into a personal referendum speaks to a massive insecurity and beta mindset on your part

Nothing about what you wrote makes sense which is par for the course. Regardless I recommend you learn to accept the fact that people think James is good at basketball... but if you can't please don't point the posthumous finger at me when you end up doing whatever you do.

AirBonner
07-05-2022, 12:52 PM
Kind of wonder if OP is suicidal. I have a wife and kids and I don't talk about them nearly as much as this guy talks about a man he hates. You can't have much going on in your life positive to obsess like this over someone who neither knows nor cares that you exist

Agree the guy clearly doesn’t have much going on in his life. Every post is negative and obsessive

3ba11
07-05-2022, 01:00 PM
Nothing about what you wrote makes sense which is par for the course. Regardless I recommend you learn to accept the fact that people think James is good at basketball... but if you can't please don't point the posthumous finger at me when you end up doing whatever you do.


They don't just think LeFraud is "good at basketball"

They think he's possibly the best ever

It's funny because fans think he's the goat athlete and the goat IQ.... yet he doesn't know how to fit with Westbrook or Ingram and only has 4 chips in 20 years (a joke)

Accept that you support an entertainment fraud - and you want the fraud to continue.. You enjoy and eagerly await each new machination of the fraud

ShawkFactory
07-05-2022, 01:00 PM
Happy and successful people can post a lot on social media - and even about 1 topic!

Otoh, your attempt to turn a basketball take into a personal referendum speaks to a massive insecurity and beta mindset on your part

Accept that you support an entertainment fraud - and you want the fraud to continue.. You enjoy and eagerly await each new machination of the fraud

They don't.

NBAGOAT
07-05-2022, 01:02 PM
Was Kyrie not a young player before lebron joined him?

AirBonner
07-05-2022, 01:05 PM
Op is a bad “forum fit”

3ba11
07-05-2022, 01:06 PM
Was Kyrie not a young player before lebron joined him?


Kyrie was already a star - All-star MVP in 2014 to be exact.

Otoh, Pippen, Grant and BJ grew from single-digit rookies to viable producers on Jordan's watch

In addition to teammate growth, everyone played near capacity alongside MJ (near their career high) like Oakley, Woolridge, Pippen and everyone else.. Jordan's on-ball/off-ball game and low turnover game fit with everyone

3ba11
07-05-2022, 01:18 PM
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Thread Cliffs


A player that can't figure out how to fit with Westbrook or Ingram and has 4 chips in 20 seasons (half the frequency of Magic and others) is considered the smartest player ever AND the best athlete

Something doesn't add up and it basically has to be the "smartest player ever" part .. He obviously has a great memory (memorizes opponent's plays.... :applause:), but memory doesn't equal understanding (IQ) - Lebron has a poor understanding about optimal brand of ball, teammate fits and development, so he can't win organically and must be a talent-based winner (team-hopper.. all-star team strategy).. He never actually learned how to win (organic) because he bailed a year early in 2010.

Hey Yo
07-05-2022, 01:28 PM
Who did Kobe develop? It only took 3 seasons of mediocrity before he publicly demanded to be traded.

3ba11
07-05-2022, 01:42 PM
Who did Kobe develop? It only took 3 seasons of mediocrity before he publicly demanded to be traded.


Bynum

Fisher


So he developed a few guys and everyone played to capacity alongside him (good fits) - Kobe's on-ball/off-ball game fit with anyone

People forget that Kobe had the 1 seed with Bynum but Bynum got hurt.. That's when Jerry West rescued Kobe with Pau... Kobe made the most of it and was able to win with a secondary producer like Pau that required Kobe to defeat maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load in Finals)

red1
07-05-2022, 01:58 PM
3balll you are straight CLOWNING out here


dropping baldan down the rankings faster than any grocery bagging exposé ever could :roll:

red1
07-05-2022, 01:59 PM
no pip


no


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Hey Yo
07-05-2022, 02:25 PM
Bynum

Fisher


So he developed a few guys and everyone played to capacity alongside him (good fits) - Kobe's on-ball/off-ball game fit with anyone

People forget that Kobe had the 1 seed with Bynum but Bynum got hurt.. That's when Jerry West rescued Kobe with Pau... Kobe made the most of it and was able to win with a secondary producer like Pau that required Kobe to defeat maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load in Finals)

Fisher he was already a champion playing along side Shaq.

I'm talking about 2005 and on when Kobe became first option / leader of the team. One thing we do know is that Kobe has zero rings without Fisher.

Bynum never played to capacity... you're delusional. Safe to say Kobe helped develop nobody.

Real Men Wear Green
07-05-2022, 02:29 PM
I am amused that someone would be stupid enough to think Bryant developed Derek Fisher. But you still clearly have nothing going on in your life. 1

3ba11
07-05-2022, 02:54 PM
I am amused that someone would be stupid enough to think Bryant developed Derek Fisher. But you still clearly have nothing going on in your life. 1


Okay maybe Fisher was a stretch but Bynum is legit and grew on Kobe's watch

So maybe Kobe didn't develop guys as much as MJ but everyone played to capacity alongside him (good fits) - Kobe's on-ball/off-ball game fit with anyone.. no one was cratered or stifled like Ingram, Hughes, Jamison, Westbrook, Love, Bosh and many more

Axe
07-06-2022, 09:27 AM
Okay maybe Fisher was a stretch but Bynum is legit and grew on Kobe's watch

So maybe Kobe didn't develop guys as much as MJ but everyone played to capacity alongside him (good fits) - Kobe's on-ball/off-ball game fit with anyone.. no one was cratered or stifled like Ingram, Hughes, Jamison, Westbrook, Love, Bosh and many more
This article was from 12 years ago.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/347327-lakers-4-0-without-kobe-proves-kobe-not-even-close-to-being-the-best.amp.html

Kblaze8855
07-06-2022, 11:09 AM
They don't.


Yea I don’t know that happy successful people could find themselves wanting to behave like this for this long.

The happier and more successful Ive become the last 20 years the less time ive found to do this and even as obsessive as I can be about basketball I can’t stick to one subject. LikeI cant just talk about basketball much less one guy who plays it all the time repeating myself.

I spent the last week or so in the four seasons in the inner harbor Baltimore, walking around museums, casinos, and doing nothing really exceptional and I’ve not found time to post much of anything. Ive had an idea for a topic I plan to get around to but I’ve not really had time to put it all together.

I only had the time to post obsessively when I was an idiot workaholic waking up at 3:30 every morning and sitting in my office or walking by a computer all day. I was more or less happy and I judged my success differently at the time having been so poor in youth. I saw a good check as being a success. Now I see it as not really needing a check…and doing whatever the **** I want.

Im not sure I could be happy and what I consider successful at the moment and be 3ball level obsessed with an athlete. Youll find something better to do even if its nothing exciting. It can’t fight its way to the top of the list of things to do in an interesting life can it?

Can you imagine anyone interesting and successful making like 1600 topics about John Elways all time ranking? Wouldnt they eventually move on to one of the other interesting things they have to do?

Im not saying you have to be a lame to talk about basketball or football or golf or whatever a lot. I will say its hard to imagine someone being truly happy and successful and finding time to make literally thousands of topics online almost exclusively about some other man this way.

If you had a teenaged son and you saw him write 1600 topics and 5800 essays about Jack Harlow or Lil Wayne wouldn’t you be….concerned? Wouldn’t you want to know if something was wrong with him? If he just talked music all day ok. Music is his passion. If hes so focused on some individual he has to do all that?

You would ask some questions right? All im saying. Youd be concerned he wasn’t…right.

SouBeachTalents
07-06-2022, 11:40 AM
If you had a teenaged son and you saw him write 1600 topics and 5800 essays about Jack Harlow or Lil Wayne wouldn’t you be….concerned? Wouldn’t you want to know if something was wrong with him? If he just talked music all day ok. Music is his passion. If hes so focused on some individual he has to do all that?

You would ask some questions right? All im saying. Youd be concerned he wasn’t…right.
Anyone who says they wouldn’t be deeply disturbed by seeing that is completely full of shit :lol Any parent would immediately seek professional help for their child after seeing something like that, it’s some legit Jack Torrance level behavior.

warriorfan
07-06-2022, 11:58 AM
Op with another banger.


Truth hurts. People won’t even address the OP. When you can’t attack the subject you attack the source. .

Real Men Wear Green
07-06-2022, 04:32 PM
Op with another banger.


Truth hurts. People won’t even address the OP. When you can’t attack the subject you attack the source. .

OP himself admitted saying Bryant developing fisher was stupid and you try to defend him. You're just mad that your shared mental illness is being pointed out. I should ban you the next time you snitch. Which will probably be in five minutes.

warriorfan
07-06-2022, 04:36 PM
OP himself admitted saying Bryant developing fisher was stupid and you try to defend him. You're just mad that your shared mental illness is being pointed out. I should ban you the next time you snitch. Which will probably be in five minutes.

Stfu fatty. Cry more. The big draws are at work here.

Real Men Wear Green
07-06-2022, 04:46 PM
Stfu fatty. Cry more. The big draws are at work here.

"Truth hurts. "

warriorfan
07-06-2022, 04:53 PM
"Truth hurts. "

It does that’s why you are here whining and melting down like a little bitch.

If you aren’t going to discuss the topic at hand, then get the hell out of here.

Axe
07-06-2022, 04:57 PM
OP himself admitted saying Bryant developing fisher was stupid and you try to defend him. You're just mad that your shared mental illness is being pointed out. I should ban you the next time you snitch. Which will probably be in five minutes.
:lol

Real Men Wear Green
07-06-2022, 05:12 PM
It does that’s why you are here whining and melting down like a little bitch.

If you aren’t going to discuss the topic at hand, then get the hell out of here.

Someone should do something about it. You should report me.

red1
07-06-2022, 05:23 PM
Yea I don’t know that happy successful people could find themselves wanting to behave like this for this long.

The happier and more successful Ive become the last 20 years the less time ive found to do this and even as obsessive as I can be about basketball I can’t stick to one subject. LikeI cant just talk about basketball much less one guy who plays it all the time repeating myself.

I spent the last week or so in the four seasons in the inner harbor Baltimore, walking around museums, casinos, and doing nothing really exceptional and I’ve not found time to post much of anything. Ive had an idea for a topic I plan to get around to but I’ve not really had time to put it all together.

I only had the time to post obsessively when I was an idiot workaholic waking up at 3:30 every morning and sitting in my office or walking by a computer all day. I was more or less happy and I judged my success differently at the time having been so poor in youth. I saw a good check as being a success. Now I see it as not really needing a check…and doing whatever the **** I want.

Im not sure I could be happy and what I consider successful at the moment and be 3ball level obsessed with an athlete. Youll find something better to do even if its nothing exciting. It can’t fight its way to the top of the list of things to do in an interesting life can it?

Can you imagine anyone interesting and successful making like 1600 topics about John Elways all time ranking? Wouldnt they eventually move on to one of the other interesting things they have to do?

Im not saying you have to be a lame to talk about basketball or football or golf or whatever a lot. I will say its hard to imagine someone being truly happy and successful and finding time to make literally thousands of topics online almost exclusively about some other man this way.

If you had a teenaged son and you saw him write 1600 topics and 5800 essays about Jack Harlow or Lil Wayne wouldn’t you be….concerned? Wouldn’t you want to know if something was wrong with him? If he just talked music all day ok. Music is his passion. If hes so focused on some individual he has to do all that?

You would ask some questions right? All im saying. Youd be concerned he wasn’t…right.
absolutely correct as per usual.


truly a mental illness.

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red1
07-06-2022, 05:28 PM
Someone should do something about it. You should report me.

:roll: :roll:


warriorfan the crackhead snitch :roll:

1987_Lakers
07-06-2022, 05:31 PM
OP himself admitted saying Bryant developing fisher was stupid and you try to defend him. You're just mad that your shared mental illness is being pointed out. I should ban you the next time you snitch. Which will probably be in five minutes.

:roll:

1987_Lakers
07-06-2022, 05:34 PM
Stfu fatty. Cry more. The big draws are at work here.

My God, that "warriorfan google search" thread really got into your head. Imagine bragging about something like that. I just won an all-time peak tournament on here and could care less.

warriorfan
07-06-2022, 05:35 PM
My God, that "warriorfan google search" thread really got into your head. Imagine bragging about something like that. I just won an all-time peak tournament on here and could care less.

No one cares you midget.

Fume more.

1987_Lakers
07-06-2022, 05:40 PM
If you had a teenaged son and you saw him write 1600 topics and 5800 essays about Jack Harlow or Lil Wayne wouldn’t you be….concerned? Wouldn’t you want to know if something was wrong with him? If he just talked music all day ok. Music is his passion. If hes so focused on some individual he has to do all that?

You would ask some questions right? All im saying. Youd be concerned he wasn’t…right.

The crazy part is that the LeBron stans are the ones who actually point this out to him so he can at least see he has a problem and maybe work on it, the Bron haters are in reality his worse enemy, they all know he has issues, but don't want to say anything about it, they even encourage him because of their hatred for LeBron, their own hatred towards a player they never met outweighs the concern they have for a fellow poster, really sick stuff.

3ba11
07-06-2022, 06:39 PM
This article was from 12 years ago.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/347327-lakers-4-0-without-kobe-proves-kobe-not-even-close-to-being-the-best.amp.html


Kobe's efficiency was never Iverson or Westbrook level

So people harp on it too much.. 45% is fine and actually pretty amazing considering all the shit that he did.

Furthermore, Kobe:s shooting volume forces the defense to expend energy defending the aggression, while also dictating pace and often generating an advantage on the offensive glass..

So inferior shooting efficiency isn't as correlated with losing as you think - the 14' Heat had by far the best efficiency of any Spurs opponent, but lost by the most and record amount. There's plenty examples of this - efficiency is great but it can't come at the expense of being the aggressor

Hey Yo
07-06-2022, 06:49 PM
My God, that "warriorfan google search" thread really got into your head. Imagine bragging about something like that. I just won an all-time peak tournament on here and could care less.

He's gonna start setting up at those conventions charging people for autographs.

Shooter
07-07-2022, 12:25 AM
grocery bagging rivals for $500 please :roll:



https://i.postimg.cc/k5pXdN5h/Rivalry-Decade.jpg

Hello, police? I'd like to report a murder.

hold this L
07-07-2022, 12:28 AM
grocery bagging rivals for $500 please :roll:



https://i.postimg.cc/k5pXdN5h/Rivalry-Decade.jpg
He doesn't have a winning record in the playoffs vs any of those dudes.

1-1
1-2
1-3

Shooter
07-07-2022, 12:28 AM
He doesn't have a winning record in the playoffs vs any of those dudes.

1-1
1-2
1-3

But yet he nearly has more FMVP than all 3 of them combined :lol

4 to 5

Next

:dancin

hold this L
07-07-2022, 12:31 AM
But yet he nearly has more FMVP than all 3 of them combined :lol

4 to 5

Next

:dancin
He has the same FMVPs as the 3 put together, but that doesn't change that he's getting his ass beat all the time vs them.

Shooter
07-07-2022, 12:41 AM
He has the same FMVPs as the 3 put together, but that doesn't change that he's getting his ass beat all the time vs them.

Cool, so he has matched ALL three of his era's top competition combined...Nice.

JohnMax
07-07-2022, 12:46 AM
I don't think 3ball is crazy and I'm a Lebron supporter.

He sounds articulate and doesn't lose his cool . You don't see him threaten posters, call them names, or say offensive things.

Shooter
07-07-2022, 12:48 AM
I don't think 3ball is crazy and I'm a Lebron supporter.

He sounds articulate and doesn't lose his cool . You don't see him threaten posters, call them names, or say offensive things.

False. He literally posted this:

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Hey bitch - if I catch you or anyone else from this loser ass board following me, I will beat you down in self defense. You will be in the hospital if I catch you following me as anyone that is following me I will deem a threat to my health

I've already filed police reports against your screen name and others I suspect. Im also getting restraining orders to ban the screen name from playing on the site where you outed yourself as my stalker

Don't let me catch you, you tiny tiny man. You'll be even tinier when I get done with you

---

He's a high functioning psychopath. 100%.

hold this L
07-07-2022, 01:25 AM
Cool, so he has matched ALL three of his era's top competition combined...Nice.

Can't really match them when you don't have a winning record to any of them. But you've been an embarrassing stan for 2 years running. Cope has been running high in LeStreets this season.

JohnMax
07-07-2022, 01:48 AM
False. He literally posted this:

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Hey bitch - if I catch you or anyone else from this loser ass board following me, I will beat you down in self defense. You will be in the hospital if I catch you following me as anyone that is following me I will deem a threat to my health

I've already filed police reports against your screen name and others I suspect. Im also getting restraining orders to ban the screen name from playing on the site where you outed yourself as my stalker

Don't let me catch you, you tiny tiny man. You'll be even tinier when I get done with you

---

He's a high functioning psychopath. 100%.

What's background on this? Is he being stalked or does he have some mental illness that makes him believe that? I have hung out on chatrooms of live podcast recordings with people who said they were targeted individuals and were being gangstalked. I used to think they were telling the truth until I studied up on subject and realized they had some mental health issue.

Shooter
07-07-2022, 02:06 AM
Can't really match them when you don't have a winning record to any of them. But you've been an embarrassing stan for 2 years running. Cope has been running high in LeStreets this season.

Yikes. This was it?

"ackShuLLy hE cAnT mAtCh tHeM eVeN tHo hE aLreAdY dId"

:lol 2 ez

Cope has been running high in 1/6 Currry Avenue every season

RRR3
07-07-2022, 03:58 AM
Can't really match them when you don't have a winning record to any of them. But you've been an embarrassing stan for 2 years running. Cope has been running high in LeStreets this season.
Why are we counting LeBron vs. Curry and Durant TOGETHER as if that was remotely fair? :facepalm

Axe
07-07-2022, 05:02 AM
Kobe's efficiency was never Iverson or Westbrook level

So people harp on it too much.. 45% is fine and actually pretty amazing considering all the shit that he did.

Furthermore, Kobe:s shooting volume forces the defense to expend energy defending the aggression, while also dictating pace and often generating an advantage on the offensive glass..

So inferior shooting efficiency isn't as correlated with losing as you think - the 14' Heat had by far the best efficiency of any Spurs opponent, but lost by the most and record amount. There's plenty examples of this - efficiency is great but it can't come at the expense of being the aggressor
Oh really? Maybe that's why he's only 2/7 in finals mvp count.

Spurs m8
07-07-2022, 05:21 AM
Amazing he went nearly 20 years and didn't develop anyone

But I guess he traded most away before getting the chance

Spurs m8
07-07-2022, 05:22 AM
He doesn't have a winning record in the playoffs vs any of those dudes.

1-1
1-2
1-3

:roll: