NYC Bodega worker charged with murder after defending himself from being robbed

[Patrick Chewing]

Only in this Liberal wasteland of a city can a career criminal be on the street, and an old man defending himself get arrested for murder.

Story: https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-york-city-bodega-worker-charged-murder-allegedly-seen-video-stabbing-ex-con-dispute


Clip of attack: https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1545074624127729665?s=20&t=6QRuLK-bNhZyVQobVeY4SQ


Piece of shit D.A. here in New York wants to arrest the good guys and lets the criminals roam free.


This fat Liberal **** needs to be taken out.

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[BigKobeFan]

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[Lakers Legend#32]

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[Shogon]

Would be interested in the full context which we will obviously never get as we were not there, but...

I gotta say...

If someone comes across that counter especially posturing up like that, I don't see how in any way shape or form that is not considered an immediate threat to your physical safety if not your life. With just the clip, it's clear self defense imo.

I doubt there's any context that justifies that guy going around the counter like that, but maybe... who knows.

I also don't know shit about the law and I assume that's going to vary wildly from state to state.

It does drive me nuts though that some of these states want you to become a victim before being allowed to retaliate.

[Off the Court]

I doubt there's any context that justifies that guy going around the counter like that, but maybe... who knows.

According to the article he "grabbed the daughters hand" after their card was denied.

Shouldn't grab someone else's kid, but based on all shown I'm leaning innocent here. Mostly because that was his property. If that is just two men out on the street getting into a pushing contest I would probably say it's murder if either of them stabs the other to death. I guess that is where society is now though. The days of getting in a good old fashioned fist fight are over.

[jstern]

The guy's bail was set at $250,000 after the woke DA Alvin Bragg, who is very anti bail for criminals requested it to be set to $500,000.

Then GoFundMe deleted a page set up for his bond (https://nypost.com/2022/07/07/gofundme-deletes-page-for-nyc-bodega-clerk-who-fatally-stabbed-attacker/).

All very insane. You would think that the guy who got killed was an innocent baby or something.

But just 20 minutes ago, a judge lowered it to $50,000 (https://nypost.com/2022/07/07/judge-lowers-bail-on-nyc-bodega-worker-judge-lowers-bail-on-nyc-bodega-clerk-jose-alba-charged-with-murder-in-self-defense-casecharged-with-murder-in-self-defense-case/).

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This fat Liberal ****, how Chewing refers to him, is responsible for the deaths and shattered lives of many innocent people, by people who should have been in jail.

[Patrick Chewing]

According to the article he "grabbed the daughters hand" after their card was denied.

Shouldn't grab someone else's kid, but based on all shown I'm leaning innocent here. Mostly because that was his property. If that is just two men out on the street getting into a pushing contest I would probably say it's murder if either of them stabs the other to death. I guess that is where society is now though. The days of getting in a good old fashioned fist fight are over.

:facepalm

The fact that you had to analyze and think about the situation proves just how out of touch with reality you are. "Based on all shown I'm leaning innocent here." Really?

Some guy who can clearly beat your ass and probably kill you goes behind the counter and corners you pushing you down and threatening to beat your ass, and you have to think about if the bodega clerk was in the right in stabbing this dude?? ****ing weird how you people think.

[Patrick Chewing]

The guy's bail was set at $250,000 after the woke DA Alvin Bragg, who is very anti bail for criminals requested it to be set to $500,000.

Then GoFundMe deleted a page set up for his bond (https://nypost.com/2022/07/07/gofundme-deletes-page-for-nyc-bodega-clerk-who-fatally-stabbed-attacker/).

All very insane. You would think that the guy who got killed was an innocent baby or something.

But just 20 minutes ago, a judge lowered it to $50,000 (https://nypost.com/2022/07/07/judge-lowers-bail-on-nyc-bodega-worker-judge-lowers-bail-on-nyc-bodega-clerk-jose-alba-charged-with-murder-in-self-defense-casecharged-with-murder-in-self-defense-case/).

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This fat Liberal ****, how Chewing refers to him, is responsible for the deaths and shattered lives of many innocent people, by people who should have been in jail.

The scarier part in all of this is despite the video evidence and despite the testimony of the clerk himself at the time the police showed up, they still arrested him and the D.A. was quick to put a murder charge on him.

And look, I'll spell it out for all of you cause I'm not politically correct and I don't hold anything back. The perp was Black and the innocent victim was not, that's why the perp was on the street to begin with and that's why the victim is in jail for murder. This isn't about right and wrong anymore with this D.A. This is about how can I help my people more than other people and at what lengths am I willing to go and get away with it.

[Off the Court]

:facepalm

The fact that you had to analyze and think about the situation proves just how out of touch with reality you are. "Based on all shown I'm leaning innocent here." Really?

Some guy who can clearly beat your ass and probably kill you goes behind the counter and corners you pushing you down and threatening to beat your ass, and you have to think about if the bodega clerk was in the right in stabbing this dude?? ****ing weird how you people think.

Someone "threatening to beat your ass" doesn't justify his death. But when threatened on your own property I think it is justified. And I think that is the difference here, and where it becomes a "stand your ground" situation.

When you are on your own property, the other person is then seen as an "intruder" and this person was definitely intruding.

I don't know if New York has stand your ground laws in place though.

[JohnnySic]

Watched the video; clear cut self defense. I hope he gets off but who knows in a place like NY.

[jstern]

Someone "threatening to beat your ass" doesn't justify his death. But when threatened on your own property I think it is justified. And I think that is the difference here, and where it becomes a "stand your ground" situation.

When you are on your own property, the other person is then seen as an "intruder" and this person was definitely intruding.

I don't know if New York has stand your ground laws in place though.

It's very interesting how you interpret things. The criminal guy pushed the older guy against the wall, which is assault. Standing over him in a very aggressive, he's going to kick his ass manner. Then he grabs him by the neck, shirt, starts pulling him to a different location. And your interpretation is that he's only threatening to beat his ass.

[Off the Court]

It's very interesting how you interpret things. The criminal guy pushed the older guy against the wall, which is assault. Standing over him in a very aggressive, he's going to kick his ass manner. Then he grabs him by the neck, shirt, starts pulling him to a different location. And your interpretation is that he's only threatening to beat his ass.
I was quoting Chewing who literally said "threatening to beat his ass" :facepalm

That's why it's in quote marks.

Come on jstern keep up.

[jstern]

I was quoting Chewing who literally said "threatening to beat his ass" :facepalm

That's why it's in quote marks.

Come on jstern keep up.

True. I didn't catch that the second time. I read the comment a couple of hours earlier and came back forgetting about Chewing using the term, but with you omitting the killing part. But in reality I just quickly pivoted my comment, it was going to be on you talking about threats in public versus on your property. But I felt that my point was too complicated to explain in a simple way, so I changed it to your interpretation of the danger. Basically something about when a guy does what he did and you're cornered like that, whether in your property or not, it's justifiable.

[SouBeachTalents]

If this were a 37 year old white guy doing this to a 61 year old black man, there's NO way in hell he'd ever be charged with murder :lol If they did, the fallout would reach George Floyd proportions, we'd probably already see protests in the street.

The video seems pretty cut and dry to me. In theory, of course you don't want a physical altercation to end in death, but this was an old man being attacked by someone nearly half his age, a person with a criminal record who was unquestionably aggressive, hostile and violent. This was a clear case of self defense to me, and it'd be insane if he gets convicted of murder. If I were his age in that situation, I probably would've done the same thing.

[Jasper]

:facepalm

The fact that you had to analyze and think about the situation proves just how out of touch with reality you are. "Based on all shown I'm leaning innocent here." Really?

Some guy who can clearly beat your ass and probably kill you goes behind the counter and corners you pushing you down and threatening to beat your ass, and you have to think about if the bodega clerk was in the right in stabbing this dude?? ****ing weird how you people think.

At least he thinks , like most trumpards like you just react like an animal. Jewelry clerk

[Patrick Chewing]

At least he thinks , like most trumpards like you just react like an animal. Jewelry clerk

You f*ck animals.

[jstern]

New video with audio, of the transaction with the girlfriend. Starting at 0:08.

What a horrible job, when you're forced to interact with such irrational people. And that poor daughter, look at who her mother is. Her mother's EBT card was declined and her mother's reaction is to yell, "I’m gonna bring my n— down here and he gonna f–k you up. My n— is gonna come down here right now and f–k you up!"

Like imagine having such a mother. The cursing, the N word, and violence. A meltdown over a bag of chips, and so she's going to sent her boyfriend to **** somebody up and more than likely at least end up in jail, again. Or, much, much worse than that. Cause him to end up dead.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oSfVcBA3Zw

And I really, really wish we knew if the EBT did indeed have money on it. Imagine her checking her balance and oops, not enough money.

[diamenz]

is the dude selling individual squares? :lol gotta give him props on such a smart side hustle.

[Long Duck Dong]

If this were a 37 year old white guy doing this to a 61 year old black man, there's NO way in hell he'd ever be charged with murder :lol If they did, the fallout would reach George Floyd proportions, we'd probably already see protests in the street.

The video seems pretty cut and dry to me. In theory, of course you don't want a physical altercation to end in death, but this was an old man being attacked by someone nearly half his age, a person with a criminal record who was unquestionably aggressive, hostile and violent. This was a clear case of self defense to me, and it'd be insane if he gets convicted of murder. If I were his age in that situation, I probably would've done the same thing.

As the details come out this case gets even more stupid. The woman who went nuts stabbed the old man too yet she wasn't charged. Police wanted to arrest her after seeing the video evidence but the DA said he would not prosecute HER.

The guy who attacked the old man was a felon on parole for beating up a police officer. And get this, police DID NOT ARREST this man on scene as they judged it an act of self defense but the DA charged him with murder and had an arrest warrant issued.

This is the kind of wild eyed wokeism I'd only expect from a white liberal. Black democrats lean hard left but they tend to be at least somewhat grounded. This DA is just plain nuts.

Under this DA though there are no life sentences pursued. No matter how horrible the murder or crime the maximum sentence he wants his prosecutors to ask for is 20 years.

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[TheMan]

I don't usually agree with the morons at FOX but I agree, that fat libtard DA needs to get fired.

[Nanners]

The democrat party position seems to be that violent career criminal scumbags deserve second, third, fourth, fifth...unlimited chances really. Meanwhile, they also think that any upstanding law abiding citizen who defends themselves against a violent maniac has comitted a criminal act.

Imagine being so retarded that you think it should be illegal for people to defend themselves... a lot of this country actually thinks that way.

[paksat]

this country is gone