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Shogon
07-07-2022, 02:14 PM
franchise. Surprising. It's the Knicks, ok, not that surprising I suppose...
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-team-values-list-knicks-warriors-lakers-most-valuable-2022/fgfhzjtpimi9cjr9lsnzcoir
But how the **** are the Warriors more valuable than the Lakers?
If you had 5.6 billion and wanted to buy a team and your choices were the Warriors or the Lakers, which would you buy?
LMAO.
The moment Steph retires that valuation is diving off of a cliff.
Meanwhile, the Lakers are still going to have legions of fans by comparison.
What am I missing?
Why would the Warriors end up being a more valuable franchise? Just because of the past 6 or 7 years and because they might win it all for another possible 3 years? WTF... that just seems odd to me.
SouBeachTalents
07-07-2022, 02:28 PM
The Kings being in the top half of that list is the most surprising result to me, I would've fully expected them to be one of the bottom 5 teams in the league. How they're that high having been completely irrelevant for 2 decades, having zero notable players and playing in a small market like Sacramento is very perplexing.
1987_Lakers
07-07-2022, 02:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pghKoTJdJKE
Kblaze8855
07-07-2022, 02:49 PM
I think it’s due to the arenas being part of the ownership. Like the Knicks might come with some portion of Madison square garden? Or the msg network which is really valuable too.
FultzNationRISE
07-07-2022, 02:56 PM
Another factor is that NY and SF are bigger $$$ cities than LA.
Big Tech in SF, Big Finance in NY. Lotta people with a lot of money.
SoCal has Hollywood, but that's made up mostly of starving artists like yours truly :lol. It's not a particularly wealthy cit per capita.
And even I got the hell out of there years ago.
FultzNationRISE
07-07-2022, 03:01 PM
franchise. Surprising. It's the Knicks, ok, not that surprising I suppose...
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-team-values-list-knicks-warriors-lakers-most-valuable-2022/fgfhzjtpimi9cjr9lsnzcoir
But how the **** are the Warriors more valuable than the Lakers?
If you had 5.6 billion and wanted to buy a team and your choices were the Warriors or the Lakers, which would you buy?
LMAO.
The moment Steph retires that valuation is diving off of a cliff.
Meanwhile, the Lakers are still going to have legions of fans by comparison.
What am I missing?
Why would the Warriors end up being a more valuable franchise? Just because of the past 6 or 7 years and because they might win it all for another possible 3 years? WTF... that just seems odd to me.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/205618/per-capita-income-in-the-top-20-most-populated-cities-in-the-us/
Shogon
07-07-2022, 03:02 PM
https://www.statista.com/statistics/205618/per-capita-income-in-the-top-20-most-populated-cities-in-the-us/
Are you ****ing joking right now? You think the Warriors valuation is based on population?
You think the valuation stays the same without Steph and the past 4 titles?
I mean I know you like to meme hate on Steph but this is a bridge too far.
FultzNationRISE
07-07-2022, 03:05 PM
Are you ****ing joking right now? You think the Warriors valuation is based on population?
You think the valuation stays the same without Steph and the past 4 titles?
I mean I know you like to meme hate on Steph but this is a bridge too far.
:biggums:
San Fransisco is the wealthiest city per capita in the nation BY FAR. San Jose is number FOUR.
The Bay area altogether is rich, and huge.
You think that doesnt make an NBA team located there wildly valuable?
So, you think the Knicks are valuable because of Julius Randle?
Of course the Dubs' recent success plays a part. But Steph Curry alone is not adding billions of dollars in value :lol
hold this L
07-07-2022, 03:05 PM
Curry's impact is limitless
https://data.zouqicq.com/images/news/220617/u536hg4p4w.gif
Shogon
07-07-2022, 03:07 PM
:biggums:
San Fransisco is the wealthiest city per capita in the nation BY FAR. San Jose is number FOUR.
The Bay area altogether is rich, and huge.
Of course their recent success plays a part. But Steph Curry alone is not adding billions of dollars in value :lol
Keep that same energy for the years following Steph's retirement.
FultzNationRISE
07-07-2022, 03:10 PM
Keep that same energy for the years following Steph's retirement.
:roll:
And when Julius Randle retires too, right?
warriorfan
07-07-2022, 03:14 PM
:roll:
And when Julius Randle retires too, right?
12 years ago Chris Cohan sold the Warriors for 450 million.
Just some food for thought.
Shogon
07-07-2022, 03:20 PM
12 years ago Chris Cohan sold the Warriors for 450 million.
Just some food for thought.
Well franchises in general have exploded in value since then, but probably none of them have 12x'd like the Warriors have.
warriorfan
07-07-2022, 03:24 PM
Well franchises in general have exploded in value since then, but probably none of them have 12x'd like the Warriors have.
Yes. That’s my point.
FultzNationRISE
07-07-2022, 05:18 PM
12 years ago Chris Cohan sold the Warriors for 450 million.
Just some food for thought.
Yeah but he sold them outta Oaktown.
Now they in Frisco.
The gays got more money than the thugs.
John8204
07-07-2022, 05:21 PM
Miami seems low to me...why are they a billion dollars below the Nets and Clippers?
FultzNationRISE
07-07-2022, 05:26 PM
Miami seems low to me...why are they a billion dollars below the Nets and Clippers?
New York and LA are much bigger basketball markets than Miami. To Shogon's point, yes having a major star under contract obviously effects valuation to some extent, but it means very little in comparison to market size, and purchasing power of said market.
Miami's a big city, but the public isnt that invested in the Heat (nor the Marlins nor any of their sports teams for that matter). Florida is a lot of retirees. Not the people advertisers are looking to bank off of.
warriorfan
07-07-2022, 05:51 PM
Yeah but he sold them outta Oaktown.
Now they in Frisco.
The gays got more money than the thugs.
The fanbase didn’t change. Just the location of the stadium. Which obviously accounts for something. But Chase Center is literally the house that Curry built. If Steph Curry was never drafted and the Warriors stayed a bottom tier team like they were for the previous 20+ years and don’t have the meteoric rise culminating in 4 championships in 7 years….the move, the stadium, all that never happens. Steph Curry was inarguably the catalyst for all of that. When he is finally done, it will be very interesting to see how the franchise plays out. But he has set the table to still put them in a very favorable position for years to come.
Spurs m8
07-07-2022, 05:59 PM
LeCancer has driven the price down
FultzNationRISE
07-07-2022, 06:12 PM
The fanbase didn’t change. Just the location of the stadium. Which obviously accounts for something. But Chase Center is literally the house that Curry built. If Steph Curry was never drafted and the Warriors stayed a bottom tier team like they were for the previous 20+ years and don’t have the meteoric rise culminating in 4 championships in 7 years….the move, the stadium, all that never happens. Steph Curry was inarguably the catalyst for all of that. When he is finally done, it will be very interesting to see how the franchise plays out. But he has set the table to still put them in a very favorable position for years to come.
Thats fair. Maybe Curry has a bit more to do with it than Im giving him credit for, but I’m still sure a bad Warriors team would be more valuable than a Pelicans team with Curry on it. It’s really MOSTLY about market, facilities, brand etc IMO than one popular guy. Again, the Knicks are a good example. Chicago is a top 5 value too without a current superstar or recent success.
Curry could blow out a knee the day after a new owner buys the team. Not sure you pin that kind of value/investment to one player whose career is finite.
FultzNationRISE
07-07-2022, 06:13 PM
LeCancer has driven the price down
Mother****er I am gonna literally fight your FACE
warriorfan
07-07-2022, 06:15 PM
Thats fair. Maybe Curry has a bit more to do with it than Im giving him credit for, but I’m still sure a bad Warriors team would be more valuable than a Pelicans team with Curry on it. It’s really MOSTLY about market, facilities, brand etc IMO than one popular guy. Again, the Knicks are a good example.
Curry could blow out a knee the day after a new owner buys the team. Not sure you pin that kind of value/investment to one player whose career is finite.
If Curry blows out his knee and never plays again the day after Chris Cohan sells the Warriors. They aren’t worth nearly as much as they are now. There’s no two ways around it.
FultzNationRISE
07-07-2022, 06:21 PM
If Curry blows out his knee and never plays again the day after Chris Cohan sells the Warriors. They aren’t worth nearly as much as they are now. There’s no two ways around it.
I agree, but how much less they’d be worth is debatable. Obviously we’ll never know.
warriorfan
07-07-2022, 07:28 PM
I agree, but how much less they’d be worth is debatable. Obviously we’ll never know.
Agreed. Just keep in mind that Curry’s jersey has been the number 1 seller in the league for multiple years now and if it wasn’t for him the Warriors don’t have 4 Championships in the past 7 years. He’s the biggest draw in the league.
Full Court
07-07-2022, 07:32 PM
Why would the Warriors end up being a more valuable franchise? Just because of the past 6 or 7 years and because they might win it all for another possible 3 years? WTF... that just seems odd to me.
Well, it's not surprising. Lakers don't have much of a future. Their organization is in a shambles. If I were going to invest in a franchise, it would be Warriors over the Lakers hands down.
Curry's impact is limitless
https://data.zouqicq.com/images/news/220617/u536hg4p4w.gif
Kelly oubre jr. and kent bazemore telling us to hold their beers. :(
iamgine
07-07-2022, 08:19 PM
I think it’s due to the arenas being part of the ownership. Like the Knicks might come with some portion of Madison square garden? Or the msg network which is really valuable too.
Quite the opposite. Arenas have decreased massively in value since the pandemic.
It's more because of revenue sharing. Warriors contributes the most by quite a margin.
LeGoat4Life
07-07-2022, 10:09 PM
:roll:
Spur m8 with the dagger
FultzNationRISE
07-07-2022, 10:11 PM
:roll:
Spur m8 with the dagger
Get off your alt and fight me asshole.
eliteballer
07-08-2022, 02:53 AM
Another factor is that NY and SF are bigger $$$ cities than LA.
Big Tech in SF, Big Finance in NY. Lotta people with a lot of money.
SoCal has Hollywood, but that's made up mostly of starving artists like yours truly :lol. It's not a particularly wealthy cit per capita.
And even I got the hell out of there years ago.
Shut your mouth when adults are talking, you've never been past the city limits in whatever podunk ohio town you're in.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._metropolitan_areas_by_GDP#:~:text=Rea l%20GDP%20for%20the%20top%2050%20metropolitan%20st atistical,%20%20469%2C472%20%2013%20more%20rows%20
John8204
07-08-2022, 08:18 AM
New York and LA are much bigger basketball markets than Miami. To Shogon's point, yes having a major star under contract obviously effects valuation to some extent, but it means very little in comparison to market size, and purchasing power of said market.
Miami's a big city, but the public isnt that invested in the Heat (nor the Marlins nor any of their sports teams for that matter). Florida is a lot of retirees. Not the people advertisers are looking to bank off of.
Miami is a big expensive city and The Heat are a much higher performing team than The Nets and Clippers. Also big difference in Florida going to an outdoor stadium in July to watch the 4th or 5th best team in the division than going to a basketball game in a stadium in April.
Charlie Sheen
07-08-2022, 09:53 AM
Quite the opposite. Arenas have decreased massively in value since the pandemic.
It's more because of revenue sharing. Warriors contributes the most by quite a margin.
Waterfront property didn't lose its value during the pandemic. The opportunity to monetize it was delayed.
90sgoat
07-08-2022, 10:36 AM
I can understand why Warriors are valuable.
The tech class is indeed wealthy and the Warriors are the kind of team they'd like. It's a team first, mathematical game, with a popular progressive coach as well.
If they're smart, they keep their setup, their coaching, their system and their brand, even after Curry is gone. Keep Curry around as coach, PR dude, whatever.
When I lived in Asia, they made it a point to move the ball, everyone needs to move the ball, touch the ball.
Warriors are an asian team in philosophy with a huge asian population in the local area and a huge asian fanbase in the NBA in general.
I can see their valuation for sure.
tontoz
07-08-2022, 10:40 AM
GS has all that Silicon Valley money. All those rich young techies have no problem paying inflated ticket prices to attend games.
90sgoat
07-08-2022, 10:54 AM
GS has all that Silicon Valley money. All those rich young techies have no problem paying inflated ticket prices to attend games.
If there's anything left after rent.
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