Dame agreed to a 2 year 122 million extension in Portland. First 60 million guy.

[Kblaze8855]

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[Kblaze8855]

I won’t speak on this specific contract since we had a 300 post argument about such things recently and I’ll just say….

The first 70 million a season player is definitely already in the league. That’s gonna be a Luka, Ja, Zion, Anthony Edwards type. And the first 80 might be as well. If Luka is still a max player at like 32….he’s gonna make 85 million in one season.

[Full Court]

I won’t speak on this specific contract since we had a 300 post argument about such things recently and I’ll just say….

The first 70 million a season player is definitely already in the league. That’s gonna be a Luka, Ja, Zion, Anthony Edwards type. And the first 80 might be as well. If Luka is still a max player at like 32….he’s gonna make 85 million in one season.

Inflation... :confusedshrug:

60 mil ain't what it used to be.

[Vino24]

The league throws crazy money around for these midget guards that are declining

[FultzNationRISE]

Where are RR3, Overdrive and Rapphiel to tell us Dame shouldnt be allowed to earn this money?

[Vino24]

Where are RR3, Overdrive and Rapphiel to tell us Dame shouldnt be allowed to earn this money?

If someone is willing to pay they deserve it! What a time LeBron could garner 90mill a season

[Axe]

4ever rotting in portland. :roll:

[Full Court]

If someone is willing to pay they deserve it! What a time LeBron could garner 90mill a season

It's not a matter of deserving or not deserving. If the employer and employee both agree to the salary, they're the only two parties who's opinion matters on what's fair.

[Kblaze8855]

Inflation... :confusedshrug:

60 mil ain't what it used to be.

It’s emerging markets and sources of revenue. Even modern guys are gonna be absolutely blown away. Kobe and KG retired with the most career earnings and both were recently passed by Lebron. Lamelo ball might make more than Kobe’s entire career just off his second extension.

[Vino24]

4ever rotting in portland. :roll:

Rotting with literally $500 million in the bank lol

[Axe]

Rotting with literally $500 million in the bank lol
Looks like money is the only thing that matters so much these days.

[Vino24]

Looks like money is the only thing that matters so much these days.
You kind of need money to move from your mums basement

[Axe]

You kind of need money to move from your mums basement
Perhaps i will need AirBonner, GrayGoat and 2ball to convince me about this first. :ohwell:

[D-Wait]

You kind of need money to move from your mums basement

:milton:milton

[Shogon]

The treadmill continues, lol.

I don't begrudge him for going after the money, if that's what his priority is... that's totally cool... get that money. But at the same time, when you've clearly complained multiple times about not winning, why would you sign this deal when you probably are already worth in excess of $100 million?

Don't come bitching later about not winning. All I'm saying.

On a personal note, I just can't relate to people that feel like they need more money when they've reached that level of wealth. Unless Lillard acts a fool, he has more money than he or his kids or their kids would ever, ever need. So clearly winning was never a priority for him. And that's cool. You do you Damian Lillard, just don't bitch later and pretend like you really care about winning.

BTW, just from a marketing perspective, this is a better deal than the Beal deal.


That aside, I was having a convo once with someone about people that keep going after wealth and his answer was "when you get that much, you just want more" and I've just never been that way. Maybe most people are that way, IDK.

[Kblaze8855]

Are they supposed to sign someone if he made 20 or even 30 less million? CJ is making 30 something million now. Was he winning in Portland?

Stars that turn a team like that to winners don’t play for 30 million these days. 30 million in cap space gets you Brunson and 37 wins.

[Vino24]

Are they supposed to sign someone if he made 20 or even 30 less million? CJ is making 30 something million now. Was he winning in Portland?

Stars that turn a team like that to winners don’t play for 30 million these days. 30 million in cap space gets you Brunson and 37 wins.
Dame makes double what Brunson yet I’m not so sure Dame is even better than Brunson at the moment lol

[Shogon]

Are they supposed to sign someone if he made 20 or even 30 less million? CJ is making 30 something million now. Was he winning in Portland?

Stars that turn a team like that to winners don’t play for 30 million these days. 30 million in cap space gets you Brunson and 37 wins.

Just because the situation is "every other star is so I'm doing it too" doesn't mean it's "right."

How much money do you need personally? Clearly he exceeded that long ago. But if that's his priority, keep that his priority. I'm not judging him for it. I do judge him when he then WHINES about not winning while maxing out his team's cap.

There is at least one instance of a pro athlete that has taken repeated pay cuts in order to win... and some people label him the GOAT of his sport, which probably doesn't happen without those pay cuts.

If his org can't get it done even with him taking pay cuts, that's another thing entirely, and another reason he shouldn't whine about not winning and just... go elsewhere.

But it's clear that winning isn't his priority... money is. That's cool, just keep it consistent.

[Vino24]

Just because the situation is "every other star is so I'm doing it too" doesn't mean it's "right."

How much money do you need personally? Clearly he exceeded that long ago. But if that's his priority, keep that his priority. I'm not judging him for it. I do judge him when he then WHINES about not winning while maxing out his team's cap.

There is at least one instance of a pro athlete that has taken repeated pay cuts in order to win... and some people label him the GOAT of his sport, which probably doesn't happen without those pay cuts.
Yes be noble and take that paycut for the trillion dollar industry. What’s noble is this guy retiring his entire family for multiple generations and leaving behind his legacy for them.

[Kblaze8855]

If Dame made the same as Middleton the Blazers would be like 9 million over the cap. If he made Michael Porter money….they are over the cap.

What he is supposed to cut his salary to exactly?

If he played for nothing they would have the Pistons cap space, sign Lavine or Ayton, win 47 games and he’d still be a loser.

[Shogon]

If Dame made the same as Middleton the Blazers would be like 9 million over the cap. If he made Michael Porter money….they are over the cap.

What he is supposed to cut his salary to exactly?

If his org is handing out a bunch of overpaid contracts, that's a different thing entirely. And he needs to move on from them.


You can't always just have it your way of "I'm going to stay here because I want to be loyal, but I also want to be paid, and I also want to win, and I also want good players around me."

Some shit has to give and you have to make different decisions unless your idea is that all of this just comes down to 100% random luck.

[DMAVS41]

If Dame made the same as Middleton the Blazers would be like 9 million over the cap. If he made Michael Porter money….they are over the cap.

What he is supposed to cut his salary to exactly?

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[Kblaze8855]

If his org is handing out a bunch of overpaid contracts, that's a different thing entirely. And he needs to move on to them.


You can't always just have it your way of "I'm going to stay here because I want to be loyal, but I also want to be paid, and I also want to win, and I also want good players around me."

Some shit has to give and you have to make different decisions unless your idea is that all of this just comes down to 100% random luck.



Dude…at absolutely no pay…zero cap number….they can’t pay what any difference maker would take….if one were a free agent to begin with.

At best they sign someone marginally better than CJ was and then lose anyway.

When the team is going to lose either way….why give your owner the money back?

[warriorfan]

Here lies Dame

Rich and ringless

He wasn’t as good as he (and we) thought he was

RIP

[bladefd]

I don't think Dame is winning anything beyond a 1st round exit in the playoffs. This will make it even harder for Portland to add more good players in the push for championship. People are quick to say the owners are billionaires, but you still have to work within the means of salary cap. When one player takes up half of your salary cap, you better hope he is prime LeBron-esque or Jordan-esque. If he is not even in the same universe as LeBron or Jordan, you will fail.

[FultzNationRISE]

The treadmill continues, lol.

I don't begrudge him for going after the money, if that's what his priority is... that's totally cool... get that money. But at the same time, when you've clearly complained multiple times about not winning, why would you sign this deal when you probably are already worth in excess of $100 million?

Don't come bitching later about not winning. All I'm saying.

On a personal note, I just can't relate to people that feel like they need more money when they've reached that level of wealth. Unless Lillard acts a fool, he has more money than he or his kids or their kids would ever, ever need. So clearly winning was never a priority for him. And that's cool. You do you Damian Lillard, just don't bitch later and pretend like you really care about winning.

BTW, just from a marketing perspective, this is a better deal than the Beal deal.


That aside, I was having a convo once with someone about people that keep going after wealth and his answer was "when you get that much, you just want more" and I've just never been that way. Maybe most people are that way, IDK.


I doubt it’s even about the money tbh. A lot of guys force their way to other teams and still make plenty of money.

I suspect he just likes being in a city where he’s an all-time franchise icon. Dont think he wants to throw away a lifetime of being beloved in Portland to be the guy who dipped out in his prime. Even if Blazer fans by and large wouldnt hold it against him, his legend wouldnt remain *quite* as sterling in retirement as it will if he keeps plugging away for them. He still has plenty of time to go ring chase later on, and thats probably what the two year deal is about. For now he wants to give Portland his prime years, and probably keep ties there in retirement. So it makes sense.

Ofc Im just speculating. But if he didnt care about the city and just wanted to play on a contender, I think the financial disparity can be made to be more or less negligible if you have a good agent. So I doubt hes staying for money’s sake. But I could be wrong.

[Kblaze8855]

I don't think Dame is winning anything beyond a 1st round exit in the playoffs. This will make it even harder for Portland to add more good players in the push for championship. People are quick to say the owners are billionaires, but you still have to work within the means of salary cap. When one player takes up half of your salary cap, you better hope he is prime LeBron-esque or Jordan-esque. If he is not even in the same universe as LeBron or Jordan, you will fail.


If Dame made zero…the Blazers would have less cap space than is taken up by the 40th highest paid player. Assuming you think Dame should be paid something…say…10 million. Danny Green money? Yea let’s say Dame takes Danny green money. Know who Portland could sign?


Tim Hardaway jr.

Barely. Or Boban.

Boban makes 19 million dollars to be a victory cigar. You could add him if Dame made the same as Danny Green.

A NOBODY costs 20 million these days which is why somebodies cost 30-50.

Once they get past the rookie extension which everyone takes from their drafted by team…good players ALL cost more than Portland could add if Dame even cut his pay by 60 percent.

[Axe]

I don't think Dame is winning anything beyond a 1st round exit in the playoffs. This will make it even harder for Portland to add more good players in the push for championship. People are quick to say the owners are billionaires, but you still have to work within the means of salary cap. When one player takes up half of your salary cap, you better hope he is prime LeBron-esque or Jordan-esque. If he is not even in the same universe as LeBron or Jordan, you will fail.
In other words, a lost cause lol. And let's not forget he'll be turning 33 next year.

However, who knows he might get traded somewhere in the upcoming seasons. Regardless if it's his request or the decision of the management.

[Vino24]

Here lies Dame

Rich and ringless

He wasn’t as good as he (and we) thought he was

RIP

Ironic coming from a guy who will most likely end up in an unmarked hole or body of water

[warriorfan]

Ironic coming from a guy who will most likely end up in an unmarked hole or body of water

Many men. Many many many many men….wish death on me

Keep googlin as you cry about your Celtics choking and getting your shit pushed in, AirBoner.

You fumin’

[Shogon]

If Dame made zero…the Blazers would have less cap space than is taken up by the 40th highest paid player. Assuming you think Dame should be paid something…say…10 million. Danny Green money? Yea let’s say Dame takes Danny green money. Know who Portland could sign?


Tim Hardaway jr.

Barely. Or Boban.

Boban makes 19 million dollars to be a victory cigar. You could add him if Dame made the same as Danny Green.

A NOBODY costs 20 million these days which is why somebodies cost 30-50.

Once they get past the rookie extension which everyone takes from their drafted by team…good players ALL cost more than Portland could add if Dame even cut his pay by 60 percent.

It boils down to Damian Lillard is not good enough to be the best player on a championship team, and a lack of self awareness on his part.

If he wants a ring, go somewhere else and be a second option.

[GrayGoat]

Ironic coming from a guy who will most likely end up in an unmarked hole or body of water

:milton

[Kblaze8855]

It boils down to Damian Lillard is not good enough to be the best player on a championship team, and a lack of self awareness on his part.

If he wants a ring, go somewhere else and be a second option.

So the only people who should be the best player on a team should be the 7-10 guys who are all timers at any given moment?

What are all other teams for?

Developing the second and third best players for the super teams assigned to support said all timers?

Plenty of teams go decades without such a player. The Hawks haven’t had one since Bob Pettit.

What should Nique, Pistol Pete, Trae, Mutombo, and Joe Johnson have all done?

Taken extreme below market deals to lure in a Bird, Kareem, Kobe, or Shaq?

Are true competitors who aren’t top 30 all time to exclusively be sidekicks and should all of the teams acquiesce and not try to bring them back at market rate?

Just identity your eras goat potential types and latch on after your rookie deal or be branded a money first loser for life?

[Shogon]

So the only people who should be the best player on a team should be the 7-10 guys who are all timers at any given moment?

What are all other teams for?

Developing the second and third best players for the super teams assigned to support said all timers?

Plenty of teams go decades without such a player. The Hawks haven’t had one since Bob Pettit.

What should Nique, Pistol Pete, Trae, Mutombo, and Joe Johnson have all done?

Taken extreme below market deals to lure in a Bird, Kareem, Kobe, or Shaq?

Are true competitors who aren’t top 30 all time to exclusively be sidekicks and should all of the teams acquiesce and not try to bring them back at market rate?

Just identity your eras goat potential types and latch on after your rookie deal or be branded a money first loser for life?


Ok so stay in Portland, make a ton of money, can't sign anyone according to you even if he signs for $0, can't draft anyone because he's good enough to keep them from winning the lottery... he ends up losing anyways.

So what was your point?

[warriorfan]

Dames making more money than Steph curry and is no where near the level of player

That’s why curry is a champ and dame is gonna be a ringless dude who had to whine his way into all star games

[GrayGoat]

Dames making more money than Steph curry and is no where near the level of player

That’s why curry is a champ and dame is gonna be a ringless dude who had to whine his way into all star games
You don’t think curry is making more thru endorsements?

[warriorfan]

You don’t think curry is making more thru endorsements?

You missed the point completely

[Kblaze8855]

Ok so stay in Portland, make a ton of money, can't sign anyone according to you even if he signs for $0, can't draft anyone because he's good enough to keep them from winning the lottery... he ends up losing anyways.

So what was your point?

I didn’t think I needed one. I’m not the one seemingly suggesting stars either form super teams or that they aren’t competitors. I’m not sure what you are suggesting is correct. If he plays for Danny Green money they can add a mid level role player.

That’s what he should do? Should he demand a trade to the Lakers, Celtics, Bucks, or Heat?

Should he take less…lose anyway(as he would)…and be happy?

Whats the way to go? Must he take less and prove they still can’t win when all they have cap space for is the 58th best player in the league and then he gets to complain about losing?

All roads other than forming a super team lead to losing don’t they?

So…play with Lebron or shut up? I’m honestly wondering what you think the Dame types should do.

[Kblaze8855]

Dames making more money than Steph curry and is no where near the level of player

That’s why curry is a champ and dame is gonna be a ringless dude who had to whine his way into all star games


He makes less than Steph till 2026 at which point if Steph decides to extend by then…Steph will still make more. We just won’t have the dollar figure till he comes up for it.

[eliteballer]

I wonder if it would be possible for the NBA to make it so teams so teams can make a trade, something like where they give up their next two lottery picks no matter the year(as long as it's not consecutive).

Then we might see teams able to make more deals, like KD to Portland.

Portland would take that deal I imagine.

[Shogon]

I didn’t think I needed one. I’m not the one seemingly suggesting stars either form super teams or that they aren’t competitors. I’m not sure what you are suggesting is correct. If he plays for Danny Green money they can add a mid level role player.

That’s what he should do? Should he demand a trade to the Lakers, Celtics, Bucks, or Heat?

Should he take less…lose anyway(as he would)…and be happy?

Whats the way to go? Must he take less and prove they still can’t win when all they have cap space for is the 58th best player in the league and then he gets to complain about losing?

All roads other than forming a super team lead to losing don’t they?

So…play with Lebron or shut up? I’m honestly wondering what you think the Dame types should do.

Yes I do think he should shut up because it's clear winning isn't the priority. Money is. That's fine. More power to him. Don't talk out of both sides of your mouth. You apparently don't think he is, I do.

[8Ball]

Insane.

Salary cap going up a lot too.

$60M used to be the salary cap 10 years ago?

[8Ball]

Dames making more money than Steph curry and is no where near the level of player

That’s why curry is a champ and dame is gonna be a ringless dude who had to whine his way into all star games

If corporate put $60 ****ing million dollars in front of you.... you wouldn't sign.


**** rings, I take the money.

[Kblaze8855]

So how does he show he wants to win?

Play for free, add someone who won’t even be better than CJ, lose anyway and then he gets to be annoyed?

If he even plays for the money his teammate Simons makes they can’t even afford Boban.

It kinda feels like you just want all players to join super teams, play for as little as they can be happy with, or be mute. Possibly two of the 3.

How far off am I?

[warriorfan]

If corporate put $60 ****ing million dollars in front of you.... you wouldn't sign.


**** rings, I take the money.

I don’t blame him at all really. I would too probably depending on the situation. But if I really wanted to win a championship and already had a few 100 million in the bank. I might explore other options.

[8Ball]

I don’t blame him at all really. I would too probably depending on the situation. But if I really wanted to win a championship and already had a few 100 million in the bank. I might explore other options.

Everyone has a price bro.

If you put championship ring on the table, and $100M on the same table. It's a real hard ****ing choice even for someone that has $200M in the bank.

Maybe not for Steve Balmer.

[8Ball]

So how does he show he wants to win?

Play for free, add someone who won’t even be better than CJ, lose anyway and then he gets to be annoyed?

If he even plays for the money his teammate Simons makes they can’t even afford Boban.

It kinda feels like you just want all players to join super teams, play for as little as they can be happy with, or be mute. Possibly two of the 3.

How far off am I?

With that much money on the line, **** winning rings. I take the money 100% of the time and stay ringless.

[Kblaze8855]

He was making less than Millsap, Horford, Lowry, and Conley when he was dropping 50 with 35 foot stepbacks for the series and going to the wcf. He was making Otto Porter money even after that. Like 1.5 million off Otto Porter pay. He didn’t hit 30 till 2021 but somehow is the poster child for rich losers because of an extension that didn’t kick in till recently on a team which….as I said…is capped out if he played for good role player money.

I don’t know if people think he was paid a lot more than he was or what but it’s hard to say his contract has been holding them back when he’s been in the 25-29 range in a league paying role players 20-28 regularly.

His contract has been good or below market value his entire career. And the team has paid so much for nobodies that at this point they can’t sign another star even if he played for rookie contract wages. So why take less?

So the Paul Allen trust keeps some money?

Are any of the people thinking he’s the reason they don’t have more stars actually looking at what stars cost? What do you people think 20 million a year buys in this league if he gives it back?

[bladefd]

Kblaze-

Do you think it would be okay if he had another first round exit next year, and he comes back crying about the front-office & personnel? Especially considering the amount of money he will be making, how should we react if he doesn't play up to the standards set by the 60mill salary?

Should we not expect a 60mill player to be able to live up to it --- the highest paid player in history?

[Kblaze8855]

Considering he has the exact(and I mean exact) same contract as Paul George who gets to play with Leonard(at least when he feels like it) it would be hard to say his contract is the reason they don’t have another star.

He isn’t the highest paid player or even close people just think he is. He isn’t even a top 5 paid player. He’s in a 3 way tie for 7th and that ranking will go down as other peoples extensions go active. Jimmy Butler for one will hit 50 million before Dame does. So will Embiid. What Dame did is sign a far off extension before anyone else did. He won’t at any time before then be a top paid player and when he gets to 60 others may already be there. Steph for one is already scheduled for 59 before Dame ever hits 50. By 2026 a lot more people will have signed eventual 60 million extensions.


The contract hes on? Believe it or not a lot of super team guys had them while making more than he does. Dame makes less than Durant but the nets managed to add Harden and Kyrie both.

Steph makes more than Dame. He made 35 to Dames 25 when he played with KD, Klay, and Dray all in their primes. Lebron makes and made more than Dame but plays with Anthony Davis.


Dames salary keeping the team from adding another superstar is just a widespread myth born of people not really looking at contracts.

Dame has yet to have one of these super teams because he stays on his team not because he makes too much money. Guys making more than him form superteams through trade demands and free agency.

He and George have the same contract down to the dollar. George gets to play with Leonard because after he and Dame signed Dame honored his contract and George went to management and demanded a trade to LA. Harden makes more than Dame. He got to play with KD and Kyrie and now Embiid because he acted like a bitch and demanded to go play with them.

Dame is on a bad team for exactly one reason and it isn’t his contract. He on a bad team because unlike the others who signed the same deal or bigger….he didn’t refuse to honor it.

Hes being shit on by guys who hate the Harden and KD types for….not doing what they did to form super teams….while making less money.

Every single person here mocked harden and Durant and Paul George for being team destroying bitches and then some come in here and act like Dame isn’t about winning and only wants money for signing smaller deals than the super team guys have and not forcing his way out.

He wants a good team while making the same or less money other people make who play with multiple stars and it somehow makes him a loser who needs to shut up because of his contract.

This shit is amazing. You people are the ones creating all these ho ass superteams with conversations exactly like this. Then wonder how KD got so soft.

All he’s doing is listening to you.

[DMAVS41]

He wants a good team while making the same or less money other people make who play with multiple stars and it somehow makes him a loser who needs to shut up because of his contract.

This shit is amazing. You people are the ones creating all these ho ass superteams with conversations exactly like this. Then wonder how KD got so soft.

All he’s doing is listening to you.

Bingo.

[Shogon]

This shit is amazing. You people are the ones creating all these ho ass superteams with conversations exactly like this. Then wonder how KD got so soft.

All he’s doing is listening to you.

Are you ****ing braindead around these money conversations?

"You people"?

I never judged him for not winning. He's the one whining about not winning while helping to keep his franchise in a place where he's less likely to win. Now whether or not the Portland FO sucks is another matter, but the fact is him taking that contract REDUCES the chances of him winning when he's already set for life.

[GOBB]

Are any of the people thinking he’s the reason they don’t have more stars actually looking at what stars cost? What do you people think 20 million a year buys in this league if he gives it back?

Bingo. In the Beal thread and I quote “I would be happy with Beal getting $35mil not $50mil.”. Right because for that $15mill you’re getting what? Pj Tucker and Nic Claxton? Dudes act like if these stars take less that the money they didn’t take will be allocated to players that move the needle. And I’m not here to diss Pj Tucker. But fans here act like the money turned down will be put into significant additions that move the needle for a franchise.


Yesterdays price is not todays price!

[Kblaze8855]

Portlands front office sucking is “another matter” when the issue is if he has a right to complain?

What the hell do you think he’s complaining about?

He makes LESS money than guys on multiple super teams but shouldn’t expect his team to be good because he makes…what…anything at all? The fact that they don’t have space even if he made good role player money means nothing.

He just needs to shut up because he takes a salary and didn’t demand a trade to his location of choice with 4 years left like Paul George who makes the exact same dollar figure on a team with Leonard.

Play way way way below market value or don’t have an opinion and accept being called a money chasing loser.

But James Harden, George, and KD are wrong.

So tell me…what are franchise players supposed to do? Form superteams in free agency, demand trades mid contract to super teams, or…what? Because playing on your team and wanting them to do a good job is apparently not it.

Whats the ideal?

Stick with your team…and also be quiet through years of them not building much around you while guys on bigger deals play with superstars?

If you don’t like the teams build…leave or shut up. So…why shouldn’t everyone leave?

Why isn’t KD right? Why isn’t Harden?

Don’t like the team….form Voltron elsewhere.

But when someone forms Voltron elsewhere…we call them soft.

[DMAVS41]

Bingo. In the Beal thread and I quote “I would be happy with Beal getting $35mil not $50mil.”. Right because for that $15mill you’re getting what? Pj Tucker and Nic Claxton? Dudes act like if these stars take less that the money they didn’t take will be allocated to players that move the needle. And I’m not here to diss Pj Tucker. But fans here act like the money turned down will be put into significant additions that move the needle for a franchise.


Yesterdays price is not todays price!

I agree, but your example doesn't always even exist because teams are over the cap anyway and the extra money is just owner dollars.

[Kblaze8855]

Bingo. In the Beal thread and I quote “I would be happy with Beal getting $35mil not $50mil.”. Right because for that $15mill you’re getting what? Pj Tucker and Nic Claxton? Dudes act like if these stars take less that the money they didn’t take will be allocated to players that move the needle. And I’m not here to diss Pj Tucker. But fans here act like the money turned down will be put into significant additions that move the needle for a franchise.


Yesterdays price is not todays price!

The failure of somewhat intelligent people to see it really gets to me.

”He’s overpaid by 15 million” like Boban doesn’t make 19 million to not play. Who do these people think could be signed with these savings?

They want teams to sign David Robinson at his 1994 salary in 2022.

[DMAVS41]

The failure of somewhat intelligent people to see it really gets to me.

”He’s overpaid by 15 million” like Boban doesn’t make 19 million to not play. Who do these people think could be signed with these savings?

They want teams to sign David Robinson at his 1994 salary in 2022.

And, as you pointed out I think...Dame could have taken 15 million less for this upcoming season...and they still couldn't add anyone. They'd be right at the cap.

Half the time...the savings can't even be used to improve the team.

[GOBB]

I agree, but your example doesn't always even exist because teams are over the cap anyway and the extra money is just owner dollars.

That is true too. More often than not.

[Kblaze8855]

And, as you pointed out I think...Dame could have taken 15 million less for this upcoming season...and they still couldn't add anyone. They'd be right at the cap.

Half the time...the savings can't even be used to improve the team.


Yea blazers are about 11-12 million over the cap and Dame makes 42. Cut him from Supermax to a rookie extension like Michael Porter or Murray and the Blazers are….right at the cap anyway. You would have to pay Dame Danny Green or Alec Burks money(10 million) for them to afford to add Boban or Tim Hardaways son.

Hes the problem though.

[Shooter]

The treadmill continues, lol.

I don't begrudge him for going after the money, if that's what his priority is... that's totally cool... get that money. But at the same time, when you've clearly complained multiple times about not winning, why would you sign this deal when you probably are already worth in excess of $100 million?

Don't come bitching later about not winning. All I'm saying.

On a personal note, I just can't relate to people that feel like they need more money when they've reached that level of wealth. Unless Lillard acts a fool, he has more money than he or his kids or their kids would ever, ever need. So clearly winning was never a priority for him. And that's cool. You do you Damian Lillard, just don't bitch later and pretend like you really care about winning.

BTW, just from a marketing perspective, this is a better deal than the Beal deal.


That aside, I was having a convo once with someone about people that keep going after wealth and his answer was "when you get that much, you just want more" and I've just never been that way. Maybe most people are that way, IDK.

+1

High IQ

[DMAVS41]

Yea blazers are about 11-12 million over the cap and Dame makes 42. Cut him from Supermax to a rookie extension like Michael Porter or Murray and the Blazers are….right at the cap anyway. You would have to pay Dame Danny Green money for them to afford to add Boban or Tim Hardaways son.

Hes the problem though.

Yea, it is just absurd at this point.

In the other thread with Beal...I think they've realized that not all teams can be in "only care about contending" mode...and so they have shifted from being willing to give Beal 35 million a year...realizing that even if you do that...they are hard capped this year and next...and then with that extra 15 million in 2025...might be able to get a fringe starter...if you are lucky.

So, once they realize that...it has now become...Beal isn't even as good as KCP.

Can't make the shit up.

[PP34Deuce]

Small market team. He puts butts in the seats.

Dame when healthy is near box office
Ja is box office
Zion is box office
Beal isn't box office but washington has to somewhat commit to winning ball games.

Not mad at these guys taking huge contracts.

[bladefd]

Considering he has the exact(and I mean exact) same contract as Paul George who gets to play with Leonard(at least when he feels like it) it would be hard to say his contract is the reason they don’t have another star.

He isn’t the highest paid player or even close people just think he is. He isn’t even a top 5 paid player. He’s in a 3 way tie for 7th and that ranking will go down as other peoples extensions go active. Jimmy Butler for one will hit 50 million before Dame does. So will Embiid. What Dame did is sign a far off extension before anyone else did. He won’t at any time before then be a top paid player and when he gets to 60 others may already be there. Steph for one is already scheduled for 59 before Dame ever hits 50. By 2026 a lot more people will have signed eventual 60 million extensions.


The contract hes on? Believe it or not a lot of super team guys had them while making more than he does. Dame makes less than Durant but the nets managed to add Harden and Kyrie both.

Steph makes more than Dame. He made 35 to Dames 25 when he played with KD, Klay, and Dray all in their primes. Lebron makes and made more than Dame but plays with Anthony Davis.




Why are you stuck on his current salary? Of course his current salary is more than reasonable. We are not talking about his current salary. It almost seems like you are avoiding focusing on the extension, perhaps because you know the extension is too lucrative for a player of his caliber? He is certainly no prime LeBron or Jordan that can bring you to the promised land in his backpack.

I always believed players should be paid accordingly to their success, talent, and "what have you done for me lately?" if Dame gets 60mill/yr, do you think Giannis should get 80mill/yr? I would be okay with that. Just have to stay consistent.

[sdot_thadon]

I think the most jarring thing to me was at one point his one year pay was a superstars mutli-year max deal. Time flies.

[warriorfan]

https://i.postimg.cc/cLGPR1zd/137-E5-C0-C-7-BBF-4613-82-FE-D110-EB43-E815.jpg

Interesting.

[NBAGOAT]

Why are you stuck on his current salary? Of course his current salary is more than reasonable. We are not talking about his current salary. It almost seems like you are avoiding focusing on the extension, perhaps because you know the extension is too lucrative for a player of his caliber? He is certainly no prime LeBron or Jordan that can bring you to the promised land in his backpack.

I always believed players should be paid accordingly to their success, talent, and "what have you done for me lately?" if Dame gets 60mill/yr, do you think Giannis should get 80mill/yr? I would be okay with that. Just have to stay consistent.

The max rules will never allow for that. Another reason why having a true superstar is so valuable, they’re bargains on their deals.

[houston]

Here lies Dame

Rich and ringless

He wasn’t as good as he (and we) thought he was

RIP



yup indeed alot players chose money over winning

[GOBB]

yup indeed alot players chose money over winning

Dame plays for free and Portland is winning a chip? If the answer is no then what are fans like yourself even saying besides uttered nonsense.

[coin24]

Would any of you take a pay cut for the benefit of mainly your employer? Yeah didn’t think so..

Even if dame played for free the blazers aren’t winning shit.. while I think these teams are stupid for handing out these huge contracts that’s their decision and have no one to blame but themselves..
Not every team is in “win now” and competing for a championship. How many teams have we seen in recent years try this and it leaves them stranded in shitsville mediocrity for years

At least dame is actually a superstar “box office” type. Beal is pretty underwhelming if you actually watch him play. When he’s not injured for once

[Axe]

Once he retires, hopefully he gets to play in the australian league so he can get a taste of soggy sao biscuit that they say is good substance for the health.

[DCL]

if a player leaves and signs with a another team, he gets hated.

if a player stays on the same team and signs a big contract, he still gets hated.

so player has to play for peanuts, never leave, and also win rings.

i'm obviously not a player. i'm way closer to you than to any of them, but even i would say, "f--k yall retarded losers." :oldlol:

[GOBB]

Would any of you take a pay cut for the benefit of mainly your employer? Yeah didn’t think so..

Even if dame played for free the blazers aren’t winning shit.. while I think these teams are stupid for handing out these huge contracts that’s their decision and have no one to blame but themselves..
Not every team is in “win now” and competing for a championship. How many teams have we seen in recent years try this and it leaves them stranded in shitsville mediocrity for years

At least dame is actually a superstar “box office” type. Beal is pretty underwhelming if you actually watch him play. When he’s not injured for once

What? Why do fans like to compare their lives to that of an athlete. Employees are replaceable. There is no take a pay cut. It’s called laid off. Employers are not negotiating with you to take a pay cut nor are they asking. More often than not you’re just a number. You are replaceable. I don’t get why the avg joe fan wants to compare their lives/careers to athletes. Stupid comparison.

There were better points made here. Next time just quote and say “this”.

[GOBB]

if a player leaves and signs with a another team, he gets hated.

if a player stays on the same team and signs a big contract, he still gets hated.

so player has to play for peanuts, never leave, and also win rings.

i'm obviously not a player. i'm way closer to you than to any of them, but even i would say, "f--k yall retarded losers." :oldlol:

Yeah fans are retards. I’m starting to believe it’s envy.

[FultzNationRISE]

https://i.postimg.cc/cLGPR1zd/137-E5-C0-C-7-BBF-4613-82-FE-D110-EB43-E815.jpg

Interesting.


Feels like a PR spin, Philly probably said “We aint payin you a max and neither is anyone else. This is our offer.”

And they just let him play the noble team-first guy in the media afterward :oldlol:

[houston]

Dame plays for free and Portland is winning a chip? If the answer is no then what are fans like yourself even saying besides uttered nonsense.

Hey I'm all for superteams and playing with the best of the best. It ain't nothing wrong getting your money. But players can't have it both ways Dame made his choice live with whatever happens.

[GOBB]

Feels like a PR spin, Philly probably said “We aint payin you a max and neither is anyone else. This is our offer.”

And they just let him play the noble team-first guy in the media afterward :oldlol:

No one is lookin at harden as a team first guy. He’s getting praised for taking a pay cut and the narrative is “he wants to try and win a ring this season.”. Emphasis on this season. Given the fact he can opt out to get paid elsewhere if it doesn’t work out. Or stay and get paid because who knows what Morey and Harden discussed as far as taking less.

[GOBB]

Hey I'm all for superteams and playing with the best of the best. It ain't nothing wrong getting your money. But players can't have it both ways Dame made his choice live with whatever happens.

Gotcha. So the only way to say u want to win as a player is to be apart of a super team.

[paksat]

The treadmill continues, lol.

I don't begrudge him for going after the money, if that's what his priority is... that's totally cool... get that money. But at the same time, when you've clearly complained multiple times about not winning, why would you sign this deal when you probably are already worth in excess of $100 million?

Don't come bitching later about not winning. All I'm saying.

On a personal note, I just can't relate to people that feel like they need more money when they've reached that level of wealth. Unless Lillard acts a fool, he has more money than he or his kids or their kids would ever, ever need. So clearly winning was never a priority for him. And that's cool. You do you Damian Lillard, just don't bitch later and pretend like you really care about winning.

BTW, just from a marketing perspective, this is a better deal than the Beal deal.


That aside, I was having a convo once with someone about people that keep going after wealth and his answer was "when you get that much, you just want more" and I've just never been that way. Maybe most people are that way, IDK.


I've never understood it either, like if you were worth 500 billion dollars... Would that finally be ENOUGH yet? Must you own every single dollar on the planet for it to satisfy you?

Dame doesn't need that much money, what the hell is he even going to do with that? Might as well be a politician

[GOBB]

I've never understood it either, like if you were worth 500 billion dollars... Would that finally be ENOUGH yet? Must you own every single dollar on the planet for it to satisfy you?

Dame doesn't need that much money, what the hell is he even going to do with that? Might as well be a politician

The more you make the more you spend. That’s first and foremost. Second it’s called generational wealth. Your kids, kids kids, kids kids kids are good. That’s financially security for generations to come. So Dame can’t know his worth/value? He should take considerably less for the same results he’s been getting? Why do the avg joe place caps on how much someone that’s rich can make? Weird.

How much does Dame needs to be comfortable in life? If someone deposited $5mil in your bank account. What changes? I bet a lot.

[Charlie Sheen]

https://i.postimg.cc/cLGPR1zd/137-E5-C0-C-7-BBF-4613-82-FE-D110-EB43-E815.jpg

Interesting.

It's a good deal for Harden too. If he has a renaissance year he can opt out and get one final payday. If he continues on the decline, he secured more money over the next two season than he probably makes picking up the 47moption for this season.

[jayfan]

4ever rotting in portland. :roll:


The Blazers forever rotting with him on their books.

[coin24]

What? Why do fans like to compare their lives to that of an athlete. Employees are replaceable. There is no take a pay cut. It’s called laid off. Employers are not negotiating with you to take a pay cut nor are they asking. More often than not you’re just a number. You are replaceable. I don’t get why the avg joe fan wants to compare their lives/careers to athletes. Stupid comparison.

There were better points made here. Next time just quote and say “this”.


Poor Gobb, still upset you’re stuck with loser harden:roll:

Rest in piss fgt

[Axe]

The Blazers forever rotting with him on their books.
Younger guys like tatum or siakam have been more successful than him lmao.

[GOBB]

Poor Gobb, still upset you’re stuck with loser harden:roll:

Rest in piss fgt

Yes upset we got him for 2 years where the first year he took a $15mil pay it. And sure rest in piss when I’m fully alive. Yikes, who hurt you?

[paksat]

The more you make the more you spend. That’s first and foremost. Second it’s called generational wealth. Your kids, kids kids, kids kids kids are good. That’s financially security for generations to come. So Dame can’t know his worth/value? He should take considerably less for the same results he’s been getting? Why do the avg joe place caps on how much someone that’s rich can make? Weird.

How much does Dame needs to be comfortable in life? If someone deposited $5mil in your bank account. What changes? I bet a lot.

then stop spending like you're an egyptian pharaoh while slaves are all around you dying

I can understand the generational wealth... to a point. I'm well aware of it, but i'm also not fond of it. The chances of the kid ending up like hunter biden are much higher than normal. Spoiled rich kid is most likely how it's gonna end up, no matter how good you think you can parent.

regardless, there's quite a few people who make a ton of money that rarely spend it. I know of a few that work all day every day, even though they absolutely do not need too. One of them lives in a damn double wide trailer, but can afford a rolls royce if so chooses to.

Blows my mind

[coin24]

Yes upset we got him for 2 years where the first year he took a $15mil pay it. And sure rest in piss when I’m fully alive. Yikes, who hurt you?

Cool enjoy the second round exit at best :lol