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1987_Lakers
07-10-2022, 10:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoeTN2-q7I4

TLDW....

50's - Bad ball handlers, bad shot selections, people shooting set shots instead of jumpers, lots of hook shots, underrated passing

60's - Ball handling still iffy, players not really dribbling with their left compared to now, very fast paced/reckless, refs calling more travels, refs blowing whistle on any type of contact. Still lots of hook shots

70's - Shooting form is more modern compared to weird 50's/60's shooting forms. Guards taking more off the dribble jumpers, players started dunking more. Refs still calling weak fouls, notes Dr. J's weak ball handing. More fluid offense and reading defenses compared to previous decades. Raves over Walton's impact

80's - 3 pointer introduced, but little spacing. Bird passes up on many open 3 attempts. Lack of 3 point shooting made is easier for players to double the post. Little ball pressure.

90's - Little more 3 point attempts, but nowhere near the attempts we see today, defenses still giving opponents open 3s but the offense not attempting them much. "Illegal defense" rule made it easier for players to ISO, no zone defense and no soft double teams. The rule in general led to many ISOs, standing around and less creativity on offense.

00's - Illegal defense is no longer a rule, more help defense because of this. NBA offenses still not utilizing spacing. Less spacing made Shaq's job on offense harder. ISO offense less effective compared to the 90's.

10's - The game we see today is starting to set in. Spacing much better compared to the 00's, but some teams still ran a traditional lineup. More ball screens. Teams figured out you need more shooting and spacing to combat the extreme help defense players saw once "illegal defense" got banned.

20's - Spacing at an all-time level. More switching on defense. Teams will expose you if you can't shoot and/or can't defend multiple positions. Versatility more important than ever. Defenses playing much tighter perimeter defense because of the evolution of the 3 point shot.

warriorfan
07-10-2022, 10:58 PM
The dingo effect

1987_Lakers
07-10-2022, 11:04 PM
The dingo effect

Yes, but the 3 point trend was starting before Curry entered his prime. 2012 Finals is a good example of that. Miami played LeBron at the 4 and surrounded him with shooters while OKC still played "old school" ball with little spacing, even more so for Miami in 2013 with the addition of Ray Allen. Curry just helped take it to another level.

Xiao Yao You
07-10-2022, 11:15 PM
Yes, but the 3 point trend was starting before Curry entered his prime. 2012 Finals is a good example of that. Miami played LeBron at the 4 and surrounded him with shooters while OKC still played "old school" ball with little spacing, even more so for Miami in 2013 with the addition of Ray Allen. Curry just helped take it to another level.

The Rockets while MJ played baseball started the trend. They put shooters around Hakeem. Certainly nothing like what we see today but that's how they won

Round Mound
07-10-2022, 11:20 PM
The Rockets while MJ played baseball started the trend. They put shooters around Hakeem. Certainly nothing like what we see today but that's how they won

:applause:

1987_Lakers
07-10-2022, 11:21 PM
The Rockets while MJ played baseball started the trend. They put shooters around Hakeem. Certainly nothing like what we see today but that's how they won

True, but they did it on a short 3 point line and the NBA didn't really copy them, but they were ahead of their time. The '09-'11 Magic also shot a good amount of 3s when they had prime Dwight Howard, but they were kinda lacking in talent compared to LA and Boston.

Johnny32
07-10-2022, 11:28 PM
the suns were playing with pace, space, and shooting 3s long before stephanie was in the lg. won 60 games doing it.

Im Still Ballin
07-10-2022, 11:37 PM
the suns were playing with pace, space, and shooting 3s long before stephanie was in the lg. won 60 games doing it.

My ***** Don Nelson was doing five-out lineups in Dallas before Nash went to Phoenix. The real innovator!

rmt
07-11-2022, 02:23 AM
the suns were playing with pace, space, and shooting 3s long before stephanie was in the lg. won 60 games doing it.

And the Suns were beaten by sticking to the 3pt shooters and letting Nash and Amare do all the scoring (meaning their stars were not 3 point shooters). You let Curry and Klay do that, you're probably going to lose.

Suns never made the finals - GSW went to 6 Finals.

Mask the Embiid
07-11-2022, 04:28 AM
Joel embiid was the #1 seed in the east with a pf from the 60’s as his starting point guard…. Soak it in boys…he’s special. Then he took the same team to the #1 seed in the east again, until a covid outbreak wrecked the team. This was also with his fellow allstar teammate refusing to play….so he was pretty much playing with a handicapped salary cap….soak it in boys…. Its called greatness. I want to see you hop on a sports game and win the east handicapped with only 70 overall teammmates…. He did it in real life…. (This was before we knew maxey was maxey)

Xiao Yao You
07-11-2022, 05:43 AM
And the Suns were beaten by sticking to the 3pt shooters and letting Nash and Amare do all the scoring (meaning their stars were not 3 point shooters). You let Curry and Klay do that, you're probably going to lose.

Suns never made the finals - GSW went to 6 Finals.

Nash wasn't a 3 point shooter?

1987_Lakers
07-11-2022, 09:35 AM
And the Suns were beaten by sticking to the 3pt shooters and letting Nash and Amare do all the scoring (meaning their stars were not 3 point shooters). You let Curry and Klay do that, you're probably going to lose.

Suns never made the finals - GSW went to 6 Finals.

Suns just had a bad defense.

Johnny32
07-11-2022, 10:06 AM
And the Suns were beaten by sticking to the 3pt shooters and letting Nash and Amare do all the scoring (meaning their stars were not 3 point shooters). You let Curry and Klay do that, you're probably going to lose.

Suns never made the finals - GSW went to 6 Finals.

what's your point...

ralph_i_el
07-11-2022, 06:05 PM
Yes, but the 3 point trend was starting before Curry entered his prime. 2012 Finals is a good example of that. Miami played LeBron at the 4 and surrounded him with shooters while OKC still played "old school" ball with little spacing, even more so for Miami in 2013 with the addition of Ray Allen. Curry just helped take it to another level.

IIRC in 2013 an 2014 the Spurs and Heat shot the most corner 3's. Then teams started taking those away as a top-priority, so now guys are shooting more deep, above-the-break 3's

paksat
07-11-2022, 07:31 PM
he could just as easily say

20's - defense practically non-existent, complete and utter lack of post play, lack of big men, lack of rim protectors, zero physicality allowed, no mid range, carrying/palming/traveling at will, teams either clunking or dunking 3's ( most of the time clunking )

honestly feels like he was just paid off to put this list together. Had nothing negative to say about todays league, but almost nothing but negativity for over half the list LOL

1987_Lakers
07-11-2022, 11:57 PM
he could just as easily say

20's - defense practically non-existent, complete and utter lack of post play, lack of big men, lack of rim protectors, zero physicality allowed, no mid range, carrying/palming/traveling at will, teams either clunking or dunking 3's ( most of the time clunking )

honestly feels like he was just paid off to put this list together. Had nothing negative to say about todays league, but almost nothing but negativity for over half the list LOL

You sound upset bro.

Full Court
07-12-2022, 08:36 PM
So the guy watches one game from a ten year period....and assesses the entire decade from that one game?

Ok, sounds legit.

SATAN
07-12-2022, 09:31 PM
he could just as easily say

20's - defense practically non-existent, complete and utter lack of post play, lack of big men, lack of rim protectors, zero physicality allowed, no mid range, carrying/palming/traveling at will, teams either clunking or dunking 3's ( most of the time clunking )

honestly feels like he was just paid off to put this list together. Had nothing negative to say about todays league, but almost nothing but negativity for over half the list LOL

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/008/305/its-a-conspiracy.jpg

1987_Lakers
03-12-2023, 04:25 PM
Wonder what will be the next evolution

Manny98
03-12-2023, 04:30 PM
he could just as easily say

20's - defense practically non-existent, complete and utter lack of post play, lack of big men, lack of rim protectors, zero physicality allowed, no mid range, carrying/palming/traveling at will, teams either clunking or dunking 3's ( most of the time clunking )

honestly feels like he was just paid off to put this list together. Had nothing negative to say about todays league, but almost nothing but negativity for over half the list LOL

Meltdown

AlternativeAcc.
03-12-2023, 04:34 PM
Wonder what will be the next evolution

It's already happening, less traditional PGs and Cs, more positionless wings who can do everything.

OKC is leading the charge, and Orlando as well. These teams will be the forefront of positinless basketball and its whats gonna be winning

ShawkFactory
03-12-2023, 04:41 PM
he could just as easily say

20's - defense practically non-existent, complete and utter lack of post play, lack of big men, lack of rim protectors, zero physicality allowed, no mid range, carrying/palming/traveling at will, teams either clunking or dunking 3's ( most of the time clunking )

honestly feels like he was just paid off to put this list together. Had nothing negative to say about todays league, but almost nothing but negativity for over half the list LOL

Sometimes people have different opinions than you.

Phoenix
03-12-2023, 04:48 PM
Wonder what will be the next evolution

It's kind of already here with players like Giannis and Jokic, you'll see more and more of those types over the next decade. Wembanyama may end up a 7'3 version of KD, shit like that. You'll see less and less offenses being led by traditional size PGs because your best playmaker on the team could be a 7 footer. In 10 years there probably won't be a real reason to have the center position being called that, but for tradition sakes they won't do away with that distinction. It will just be fundamentally a different position....

BarberSchool
03-12-2023, 06:33 PM
And the Suns were beaten by sticking to the 3pt shooters and letting Nash and Amare do all the scoring (meaning their stars were not 3 point shooters). You let Curry and Klay do that, you're probably going to lose.

Suns never made the finals - GSW went to 6 Finals.

To say “suns never made the finals” insinuating it was their roster/talent/coaching that prevented it… recall they were up on the Spurs in the series, and then came all the suspensions to Phoenix players for running out to mid court, when the Spurs tried to intentionally injure Nash.

highwhey
03-13-2023, 01:53 AM
the suns were playing with pace, space, and shooting 3s long before stephanie was in the lg. won 60 games doing it.

thank u

it's not surprise the warriors coach (Steve Kerr) stole the fast paced offense from D'antoni during his tenure as Suns GM. we have a lot of new nba fans so it may come as a surprise to them that kerr was the suns gm during the nash era.

highwhey
03-13-2023, 01:55 AM
To say “suns never made the finals” insinuating it was their roster/talent/coaching that prevented it… recall they were up on the Spurs in the series, and then came all the suspensions to Phoenix players for running out to mid court, when the Spurs tried to intentionally injure Nash.

spurs fans don't like to be reminded of that. popabitch is the dirtiest coach the league has seen, classless and doesn't visit a dentist.

NBAGOAT
03-13-2023, 06:48 AM
I watched more of this guys videos than I care to admit. One finals game is certainly not enough though it has more relevance than an average game because since how the best teams in the league play matters more than how the bad teams play. He’s mostly into breaking down different systems in college basketball where you see different strategies and is not bad at it and goes old school too like going into the flex offense

Jasper
03-13-2023, 11:30 AM
I do not recall watching any games late 0's but I might of ... So for me it would be 60-today , but for sure 70's - today.

I have seen without a doubt a revolution of the game I love.

1987_Lakers
01-07-2024, 09:57 PM
It's kind of already here with players like Giannis and Jokic, you'll see more and more of those types over the next decade. Wembanyama may end up a 7'3 version of KD, shit like that. You'll see less and less offenses being led by traditional size PGs because your best playmaker on the team could be a 7 footer. In 10 years there probably won't be a real reason to have the center position being called that, but for tradition sakes they won't do away with that distinction. It will just be fundamentally a different position....

Seems like it.

90sgoat
01-07-2024, 10:44 PM
So the guy watches one game from a ten year period....and assesses the entire decade from that one game?

Ok, sounds legit.

Yeah this is stupid.

You can't judge entire decades from two teams in a decade, I mean you kind of can today because everyone plays the same, but it didn't use to be like that.

I really disagree with the idea of the 90s just being iso and there not being zone or soft doubles, I can pull up a Knicks game and do a random screenshot and it will show exactly what he claims isn't happening.

Also, the big change in spacing was happening already in 2009.

I watched a finals game of Lakers vs Orlando and the difference in spacing compared to 2003 was very obvious.

If I had to guess, I would say it happened already with the Suns and 5-seconds-or-less and then the Spurs and Orlando figured that out and everyone went from there.

90sgoat
01-07-2024, 10:49 PM
your best playmaker on the team could be a 7 footer

In the case of Wemby, Giannis, Durant, Embiid etc, that is only possible because of the way carry is not called. Jokic is obviously different.

Chuckbe
01-07-2024, 11:47 PM
In the case of Wemby, Giannis, Durant, Embiid etc, that is only possible because of the way carry is not called. Jokic is obviously different.

He's not a jigaboo?

Jasper
01-08-2024, 12:19 AM
I watched more than one game in 6 decades lol at op text

BarberSchool
01-08-2024, 01:00 AM
Interesting concept.

He’s mostly correct.

Houston was the first NBA squad who did something vaguely similar with increased spacing.

But as far as the actual modern game ….

…Argentina, France, Italy, Greece, Germany, lithuania, Yugoslavia (and fractionated nations post Soviet) all did this before Dallas & Phoenix changed the NBA.

All of those squads did it before the Warriors.

Phoenix and Dallas also ironically both got cheated out of titles.

People forget Kerr was part of Phoenix before they fired Mark Jackson and he changed Warriors entire offensive philosophy and actually got out of the first round finally.

90sgoat
01-08-2024, 02:20 AM
He's not a jigaboo?

He doesn't dribble.

hiphopanonymous
01-09-2024, 02:09 PM
Problem I have with all that is that anyone attempting to do this that isn't a historian won't know anything about the rule changes or even the players or personnel in the league. Farther back anyone goes the more lost in the woods they'll be watching the tape because they're watching it assuming the game is structured and supposed to be played the same as it is today. Is it bad ball handling? Why? Is it because they 'didn't know how' or is it bad ball handling only on an aesthetic level due to rules? Is it possibly good ball handling considering the rules? Nobody asks these questions or cares to. But they're extremely relevant questions that unfortunately it requires historians or past players testimony to clear up.