Kblaze8855
07-11-2022, 07:12 PM
….you see me wrestling with faith”
A Lupe Fiasco line which has me thinking as I sit here waiting for my Jimmy John’s order.
Do you think players who play like bitches and flop all over the place and try to draw fouls as often as they try to honestly make the ball go in the basket actually hate it but do it because they have to?
And does it being effective make it those players intelligent to do it more than weak to resort to it?
Im reminded of an nfl player who told a story about how much work Ed Reed put in to recognize and attempt to pick off a single Tom Brady pass. Said it took hours of analysis and prep on where to stand and how to bait the throw and break on it just right. And in the game it all comes together and he picks it off and fans will never understand the emotional outburst from players making one play because they don’t understand the prep. It was about fans and the league not liking all the taunting and all that.
I don’t remember the play being complained about but it was some big decisive hit on a key play and dude got flagged for the celebration and the players were in disbelief they couldn’t show emotion when fans and the league just see a big possibly dangerous hit on their guy and you looking like a douchebag after it.
He explained it’s not about the hit. You accept that you might have to hurt someone but that doesn’t mean you set out to do it. You accept its part of your job even if it’s wrong to hurt people.
Even though you can almost never get anyone to acknowledge being a flopper or much less admit they feel shame for it I have to imagine it’s in there somewhere being justified internally as a professional necessity.
My question for you….
You are in a playoff game. Down 2 in the 4th. Dude brushed you a bit but not enough to really shake you. The ref has a bad angle and you know you can flop to get a call.
Are you morally opposed to doing it?
Im not talking one of those “This ***** has to be stopped…” despicable flops like:
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CrazyParchedKagu-size_restricted.gif
….that will live in infamy. I’m talking a regular ol up the street run of the mill flop for attention on an iffy call.
Are you willing to flop?
Would your flopping extend beyond the accepted weight on your heels let him knock you over standard charge drawing flop?
Would you straight Marcus Smart/Harden/Lebron it for your team if it were effective?
I just wanna see who has an explanation I’d buy because frankly…I think almost all of you would be on some dastardly shit if it helps even though we complain when players do it.
I honestly don’t think I could be a flopper but I also acknowledge I don’t know what it’s like being in that position with those stakes. You don’t flop like that where I’m from playing for fun or even a rivalry. Just not how the game is played. But if it’s work? Eh. I guess it’s not easy to say for sure I just feel like I wouldn’t.
What do you hate to see players do but can admit you’d do in their position?
Team hop to win?
Take massive contracts on bad teams?
Flop?
Take load management days while healthy?
Demand a trade with 3-4 years on your contract?
Refuse to go to the team that drafted you forcing a trade they don’t want?
Hard fouls on a player who gets hot?
Where do you draw the line personally on what you would accept of yourself and not be ashamed?
Is there a line?
Could you feel personal shame over your conduct in basketball?
Would any of that make you feel like a bad human?
A Lupe Fiasco line which has me thinking as I sit here waiting for my Jimmy John’s order.
Do you think players who play like bitches and flop all over the place and try to draw fouls as often as they try to honestly make the ball go in the basket actually hate it but do it because they have to?
And does it being effective make it those players intelligent to do it more than weak to resort to it?
Im reminded of an nfl player who told a story about how much work Ed Reed put in to recognize and attempt to pick off a single Tom Brady pass. Said it took hours of analysis and prep on where to stand and how to bait the throw and break on it just right. And in the game it all comes together and he picks it off and fans will never understand the emotional outburst from players making one play because they don’t understand the prep. It was about fans and the league not liking all the taunting and all that.
I don’t remember the play being complained about but it was some big decisive hit on a key play and dude got flagged for the celebration and the players were in disbelief they couldn’t show emotion when fans and the league just see a big possibly dangerous hit on their guy and you looking like a douchebag after it.
He explained it’s not about the hit. You accept that you might have to hurt someone but that doesn’t mean you set out to do it. You accept its part of your job even if it’s wrong to hurt people.
Even though you can almost never get anyone to acknowledge being a flopper or much less admit they feel shame for it I have to imagine it’s in there somewhere being justified internally as a professional necessity.
My question for you….
You are in a playoff game. Down 2 in the 4th. Dude brushed you a bit but not enough to really shake you. The ref has a bad angle and you know you can flop to get a call.
Are you morally opposed to doing it?
Im not talking one of those “This ***** has to be stopped…” despicable flops like:
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CrazyParchedKagu-size_restricted.gif
….that will live in infamy. I’m talking a regular ol up the street run of the mill flop for attention on an iffy call.
Are you willing to flop?
Would your flopping extend beyond the accepted weight on your heels let him knock you over standard charge drawing flop?
Would you straight Marcus Smart/Harden/Lebron it for your team if it were effective?
I just wanna see who has an explanation I’d buy because frankly…I think almost all of you would be on some dastardly shit if it helps even though we complain when players do it.
I honestly don’t think I could be a flopper but I also acknowledge I don’t know what it’s like being in that position with those stakes. You don’t flop like that where I’m from playing for fun or even a rivalry. Just not how the game is played. But if it’s work? Eh. I guess it’s not easy to say for sure I just feel like I wouldn’t.
What do you hate to see players do but can admit you’d do in their position?
Team hop to win?
Take massive contracts on bad teams?
Flop?
Take load management days while healthy?
Demand a trade with 3-4 years on your contract?
Refuse to go to the team that drafted you forcing a trade they don’t want?
Hard fouls on a player who gets hot?
Where do you draw the line personally on what you would accept of yourself and not be ashamed?
Is there a line?
Could you feel personal shame over your conduct in basketball?
Would any of that make you feel like a bad human?