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Nowitness
07-22-2022, 05:49 PM
Can anyone name a player who had a better first 8 seasons than Tim Duncan?

In his first 8 seasons (98/05), he was 8x All-NBA 1st team, 7x All-Defensive 1st team (and 1x 2nd), 2x MVP (with 2x runners up, 2x third place and 2x 5th place, also finishing 5th as a rookie), 3x champion with 3 FMVPs.

He only played with an All-NBA player in 3 seasons (Robinson in 98/00/01). He won 3 titles without an All-NBA teammate during this time span, something no other player has ever done more than once.

He led his team in scoring all 8 seasons. Was top 3 in DWS all 8 seasons (and led in 3), top 3 in Defensive rating all 8 seasons.

Gohan
07-22-2022, 05:54 PM
Good thread, i dont think anyones close either

SouBeachTalents
07-22-2022, 05:57 PM
Jordan & Bird.

Nowitness
07-22-2022, 05:59 PM
Jordan & Bird.

Bird has a case.

MJ isn’t in that discussion.

SouBeachTalents
07-22-2022, 06:04 PM
Bird has a case.

MJ isn’t in that discussion.
:oldlol: Absolute nonsense. His accolades are virtually equal to Duncan's, except his production blows his away.

1987_Lakers
07-22-2022, 06:06 PM
Bill Russell?

7 championships
4 MVPs

8 championships & 5 MVPs if you want to extend it to 9 seasons.

Nowitness
07-22-2022, 06:09 PM
:oldlol: Absolute nonsense. His accolades are virtually equal to Duncan's, except his production blows his away.

1 less title, 1 less FMVP, 2 less All-NBA teams, 3 less All-Defensive teams, 3 more first round exits (all sweeps)

SouBeachTalents
07-22-2022, 06:15 PM
1 less title, 1 less FMVP, 2 less All-NBA teams, 3 less All-Defensive teams, 3 more first round exits (all sweeps)
More MVP's, more DPOY's, and again, his production is legitimately on a different tier than Duncan's. And keep in mind he missed nearly an entire season to boot.

I don't even care if you argue Duncan's were better, but to claim Jordan isn't even in the discussion is "Mullin > Bird" logic.

Nowitness
07-22-2022, 06:18 PM
More MVP's, more DPOY's, and again, his production is legitimately on a different tier than Duncan's. And keep in mind he missed nearly an entire season to boot.

I don't even care if you argue Duncan's were better, but to claim Jordan isn't even in the discussion is "Mullin > Bird" logic.

You act as if Duncan was out to get his. MJs production - whilst all time great - was exacerbated by playing for coaches who had no game plan but allowing him to shoot 40 times a game.

In those 8 seasons Duncan beat a prime Shaq/Kobe (twice), MJ didn’t beat a single elite team from his era, at least until Detroit got old and Kareem retired.

MJ is the GOAT, but he isn’t in this discussion.

SouBeachTalents
07-22-2022, 06:22 PM
You act as if Duncan was out to get his. MJs production - whilst all time great - was exacerbated by playing for coaches who had no game plan but allowing him to shoot 40 times a game.

In those 8 seasons Duncan beat a prime Shaq/Kobe (twice), MJ didn’t beat a single elite team from his era, at least until Detroit got old and Kareem retired.

MJ is the GOAT, but he isn’t in this discussion.
So Jordan's the GOAT, but 5 of the 6 seasons widely considered his peak years (1988-92) don't even have him in this discussion. That's some faulty logic bro, agree to disagree on this one I guess.

fsvr54
07-22-2022, 07:50 PM
So Jordan's the GOAT, but 5 of the 6 seasons widely considered his peak years (1988-92) don't even have him in this discussion. That's some faulty logic bro, agree to disagree on this one I guess.

Never listen to a guy who has "Mullin>>> Bird" under his avatar

Axe
07-22-2022, 08:15 PM
You act as if Duncan was out to get his. MJs production - whilst all time great - was exacerbated by playing for coaches who had no game plan but allowing him to shoot 40 times a game.

In those 8 seasons Duncan beat a prime Shaq/Kobe (twice), MJ didn’t beat a single elite team from his era, at least until Detroit got old and Kareem retired.

MJ is the GOAT, but he isn’t in this discussion.
Tell this to the notorious whiny casuals itb and for sure you'd find yourself being hurled with ad hominems and personal 1st grade insults by them.

Full Court
07-22-2022, 08:39 PM
Bill Russell?

7 championships
4 MVPs

8 championships & 5 MVPs if you want to extend it to 9 seasons.

Yeah, I'm going with Russell. Also a top 2 player of all time.

Full Court
07-22-2022, 08:39 PM
Tell this to the notorious whiny casuals itb and for sure you'd find yourself being hurled with ad hominems and personal 1st grade insults by them.

:roll:

Get a load of this weeping dingus. Going on a whiny rant about something that nobody even said.

:lol Loser.

Axe
07-22-2022, 09:08 PM
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Like clockwork. :D

Full Court
07-22-2022, 10:00 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/6hnq7a.jpg

kawhileonard2
07-22-2022, 10:39 PM
Duncan did come into the league playing with a guy who won league mvp.

John8204
07-22-2022, 10:41 PM
George Mikan

Axe
07-22-2022, 10:45 PM
https://i.ibb.co/mbk0J81/IMG-20220404-193130.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/W2BgXmD/IMG-20220723-102753.jpg

Full Court
07-22-2022, 11:49 PM
:roll:

Weeping dingus on the longest meltdown in the history of ISH.

Hey, Axe. I have a question.

Did you run out of tampons?

Axe
07-23-2022, 12:10 AM
:blah:blah:blah

Baller789
07-23-2022, 01:45 AM
Here we go again :oldlol:

Honestly some moderation is in order.

Full Court
07-23-2022, 11:47 AM
:blah:blah:blah

A dingus among Bronies.


And a moron among dinguses.

Axe
07-23-2022, 01:42 PM
Good thread, i dont think anyones close either
Good thread indeed. Unfortunately, the resident ISH redneck jizzrag directly above me has to ruin it because as usual everybody here knows he's the most triggered snowflake casual itb. :oldlol:

Full Court
07-23-2022, 04:26 PM
Good thread indeed. Unfortunately, the resident ISH redneck jizzrag directly above me has to ruin it because as usual everybody here knows he's the most triggered snowflake casual itb. :oldlol:

Translation: "Waaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wahhhhhhhhhhhh wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh."

:lol Weeping dingus.

I knew Bronies were going to have a tough time with the superteam being in the lottery, but I must admit, I didn't expect you to still be in a full meltdown in July. :roll: The prospects for your mental health aren't looking too good.

Full Court
07-23-2022, 04:27 PM
Tell this to the notorious whiny casuals itb and for sure you'd find yourself being hurled with ad hominems and personal 1st grade insults by them.


:roll:

Get a load of this weeping dingus. Going on a whiny rant about something that nobody even said.

:lol Loser.

Yep, I called that one. :lol

eliteballer
07-23-2022, 04:34 PM
Duncan joined a ready made championship contender.

1987_Lakers
07-23-2022, 04:35 PM
Another thread hijacked into immature insults between Axe and Fullcourt. :sigh:

Carbine
07-23-2022, 05:13 PM
It's definitely Russell. Most MVPs, most titles. What more do you want?

Axe
07-23-2022, 07:15 PM
Another thread hijacked into immature insults between Axe and Fullcourt. :sigh:
He keeps getting triggered whenever i keep saying 'casuals'. Yet in the first page i didn't even name-drop anyone lmao.

Baller789
07-23-2022, 07:25 PM
He keeps getting triggered whenever i keep saying 'casuals'. Yet in the first page i didn't even name-drop anyone lmao.

Both of you are doing it.

Stop playing the victim.

PeroAntic
07-23-2022, 09:01 PM
I love it when Axe points out the poster directly above him. Its important to be as specific as possible in cases like this, as it is always possible to confuse said poster with the one indirectly above him.

Axe, don't be narcissistic towards the poster directly above you. Seriously, its not cool.

On topic, did anyone have a better first three seasons in the NBA than Derrick Rose? :lol

Axe
07-23-2022, 09:06 PM
Another case of a butthurt casual fuming above. :rolleyes:

Anyways, magic > rose. :kobe:

PeroAntic
07-23-2022, 09:14 PM
Another case of a butthurt casual fuming above. :rolleyes:

Anyways, magic > rose. :kobe:

Directly above. Come on. :D

I agree on Magic > Rose though. :cheers: Just trolling a bit. Haven't mentioned Rose in a while so its been itching

Full Court
07-23-2022, 10:44 PM
He keeps getting triggered whenever i keep saying 'casuals'. Yet in the first page i didn't even name-drop anyone lmao.

This guy spams swastikas and has begged for me to be banned. Then tries to say that I'm the one who's triggered.

:roll::roll:

What an autistic dingus.

Axe
07-23-2022, 11:38 PM
Oof he's asking for more. :violin:


https://i.ibb.co/tzxRwz6/IMG-20220724-112827.jpg
Better thank me, lebron and the rest of the bronie fam here you ungrateful and insolent braindead scum. ./.

Taurus
07-24-2022, 01:39 AM
I love it when Axe points out the poster directly above him. Its important to be as specific as possible in cases like this, as it is always possible to confuse said poster with the one indirectly above him.

Axe, don't be narcissistic towards the poster directly above you. Seriously, its not cool.

On topic, did anyone have a better first three seasons in the NBA than Derrick Rose? :lol


Kareem in his first three seasons won a title (FMVP), 2x MVP, 3x All-Star, 2x First Team, 1x Second Team

But honestly outside of Kareem, I can't think of a player with a better three year start to their career than Rose , winning MVP in your third season is insane

Full Court
07-24-2022, 08:32 AM
Oof he's asking for more. :violin:


Better thank me, lebron and the rest of the bronie fam here you ungrateful and insolent braindead scum. ./.

That there^ is what we call a weeping dingus.

:lol

Pathetic. :lebroncry:

Axe
07-24-2022, 08:56 AM
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Overdrive
07-24-2022, 10:22 AM
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Kareem in his first three seasons won a title (FMVP), 2x MVP, 3x All-Star, 2x First Team, 1x Second Team

But honestly outside of Kareem, I can't think of a player with a better three year start to their career than Rose , winning MVP in your third season is insane

Russell, Wilt, Bird, Magic. Wilt and Unseld were MVPs in their rookie season.

Full Court
07-24-2022, 05:20 PM
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Hey, Axe. I have a serious question.

Does your autism come from being a low-testosterone beta male, or does being a beta come from being autistic?

I know it's kind of a chicken and egg question, but I assume there's an answer to this.

Axe
07-24-2022, 05:51 PM
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Full Court
07-24-2022, 08:20 PM
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Autism must suck. :lol


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Axe
07-24-2022, 08:44 PM
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Full Court
07-24-2022, 09:40 PM
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Axe
07-24-2022, 10:10 PM
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Full Court
07-24-2022, 10:27 PM
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^Dingus Maximus.

sdot_thadon
07-24-2022, 11:29 PM
Bill Russell?

7 championships
4 MVPs

8 championships & 5 MVPs if you want to extend it to 9 seasons.

This is probably the only guy.

Axe
07-24-2022, 11:30 PM
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Full Court
07-25-2022, 06:49 AM
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:roll:

Axe
07-25-2022, 07:23 AM
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Full Court
07-25-2022, 06:00 PM
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^This.

Axe
07-25-2022, 06:22 PM
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outofstomach
07-25-2022, 06:47 PM
Here we go again :oldlol:

Honestly some moderation is in order.

yeah it’s honestly gotten old and pretty annoying seeing these two go at it

Full Court
07-25-2022, 07:32 PM
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Axe
07-25-2022, 07:49 PM
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8Ball
07-25-2022, 07:53 PM
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:roll:

Full Court
07-25-2022, 10:27 PM
22-33 finals record.

:roll:

Shooter
07-25-2022, 10:51 PM
This thread is "Who was drafted to the best situation, which was completely out of their control?"

Full Court
07-25-2022, 10:54 PM
This thread is "Who was drafted to the best situation, which was completely out of their control?"

Or you could title it, "Who didn't team hop when adversity came and won organically?"

Full Court
07-25-2022, 11:25 PM
Bronie: lower 3-pt % in the finals than Jordan.

:lebronamazed:

Axe
07-25-2022, 11:57 PM
:roll:
:pimp:

Full Court
07-26-2022, 06:50 AM
Most turnovers of all time.

:lebronamazed:

Axe
07-26-2022, 07:08 AM
This thread is "Who was drafted to the best situation, which was completely out of their control?"
+1 slick

Full Court
07-26-2022, 05:16 PM
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Axe
07-26-2022, 05:36 PM
:rolleyes: (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTEn-Ud6QtYXCbmlAQ_myYDy08QmeGIvzY9gQ&usqp=CAU)

Full Court
07-26-2022, 07:01 PM
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Axe
07-26-2022, 07:24 PM
:eek: (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UWq-WsNxqDE)

Full Court
07-26-2022, 08:46 PM
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Spurs m8
07-26-2022, 09:34 PM
2.5 years in and STILL keeping up that 30 post per day average :roll:

Axe
07-26-2022, 09:40 PM
Scrotum m8 had to stalk the profile first to know shit. Poor fella.

Full Court
07-26-2022, 10:17 PM
2.5 years in and STILL keeping up that 30 post per day average :roll:

:roll:

That's what being an autistic dingus gets you.

Axe
07-26-2022, 10:36 PM
:biggums: (https://i.ibb.co/mbk0J81/IMG-20220404-193130.jpg)

GrayGoat
07-26-2022, 10:37 PM
Pretty sure Bill Russell did

Full Court
07-27-2022, 06:53 AM
:lebronamazed: