You could spawn a 1st ballot HOF'er out of All-NBA selections LeBron has over jordon

[TheGoatest]

3 more All-NBA 1st team selections
2 more All-NBA 2nd team selections
2 more All-NBA 3rd team selections

For reference, here are some Hall of Famers, including first balloters:

Tracy McGrady:
2 x All-NBA 1st team
3 x All-NBA 2nd team
2 x All-NBA 3rd team

Grant Hill:
1 x All-NBA 1st team
4 x All-NBA 2nd team
0 x All-NBA 3rd team

Chris Webber:
1 x All-NBA 1st team
3 x All-NBA 2nd team
1 x All-NBA 3rd team

Tim Hardaway:
1 x All-NBA 1st team
3 x All-NBA 2nd team
1 x All-NBA 3rd team

Discuss.

[Gohan]

He only has more because hes in a weak watered down era. Lebron wouldnt last in the 90s not enough socialmedia. He wouldnt have as much idolatry

[Gohan]

Btw lebron would still need more help if all those players teamed up with him

[John8204]

LOL I mean Jordan fans are toxic delusional A-holes but do you think MJ could survive in the iphone era, 24/7 news cycles, and twitter.

[nayte]

LOL I mean Jordan fans are toxic delusional A-holes but do you think MJ could survive in the iphone era, 24/7 news cycles, and twitter.

Like everyone Jordan would adapt and evolve is my guess. He would have a great pr team no doubt

[John8204]

Like everyone Jordan would adapt and evolve is my guess. He would have a great pr team no doubt

How old was he when he ran George Gervin out of the league? Since when do we give players time to grow up...and what did Jordan grow into. I'll always rank Jordan over Lebron but you'll never see me trash Lebron because Lebron has not had the breaks every other GOAT has had and he has not taken the missteps that other guys have.

[nayte]

How old was he when he ran George Gervin out of the league? Since when do we give players time to grow up...and what did Jordan grow into. I'll always rank Jordan over Lebron but you'll never see me trash Lebron because Lebron has not had the breaks every other GOAT has had and he has not taken the missteps that other guys have.

No offence mate but idc about all that I'm not gonna defend Jordan like bloody 3 ball lol.
Your reply seemed abit over the top so might be something you need to work on

[Johnny32]

He only has more because hes in a weak watered down era. Lebron wouldnt last in the 90s not enough socialmedia. He wouldnt have as much idolatry

Did you drool all over your phone as you typed this dumbass post?

[Johnny32]

LOL I mean Jordan fans are toxic delusional A-holes but do you think MJ could survive in the iphone era, 24/7 news cycles, and twitter.

Jordan himself doesn't think he'd survive so we already have our answer. He was way to mentally soft and he knows it.

[TheGoatest]

Here are some more hall of famers who all have worse All-NBA resumés than LeBron's All-NBA surplus over jordon:

Dominique Wilkins:
1 x All-NBA 1st team
4 x All-NBA 2nd team
2 x All-NBA 3rd team

Mitch Richmond:
0 x All-NBA 1st team
3 x All-NBA 2nd team
2 x All-NBA 3rd team

Bernard King:
2 x All-NBA 1st team
1 x All-NBA 2nd team
1 x All-NBA 3rd team

Reggie Miller:
0 x All-NBA 1st team
0 x All-NBA 2nd team
3 x All-NBA 3rd team

Alex English:
0 x All-NBA 1st team
3 x All-NBA 2nd team
0 x All-NBA 3rd team

Adrian Dantley:
0 x All-NBA 1st team
2 x All-NBA 2nd team
0 x All-NBA 3rd team

In fact, you can combine the last 3, and you still end up with a player whose All-NBA selections are inferior to those LeBron has over jordon.

[guy]

You really want to go there? How about Finals MVPs and MVPs that Jordan has over Lebron?. Literally guys like Hakeem, Kobe and Durant:oldlol:

[Gohan]

Did you drool all over your phone as you typed this dumbass post?

You finally moved from under the overpass huh? Im proud of you

[TheGoatest]

You really want to go there? How about Finals MVPs and MVPs that Jordan has over Lebron?. Literally guys like Hakeem, Kobe and Durant:oldlol:

Hakeem, Kobe and Durant are all Hall of Famers if you completely erase the 2 Finals MVPs from their resumés.
The players I mentioned got into the Hall of Fame overwhelmingly based on their All-NBA, and maybe all-star selections:

LeBron's surplus over jordon:
3 x All-NBA 1st team
2 x All-NBA 2nd team
2 x All-NBA 3rd team

Reggie Miller, Alex English and Adrian Dantley COMBINED:
0 x All-NBA 1st team
5 x All-NBA 2nd team
3 x All-NBA 3rd team

Damn... :roll:

[guy]

Hakeem, Kobe and Durant are all Hall of Famers if you completely erase the 2 Finals MVPs from their resumés.
The players I mentioned got into the Hall of Fame overwhelmingly based on their All-NBA, and maybe all-star selections:

LeBron's surplus over jordon:
3 x All-NBA 1st team
2 x All-NBA 2nd team
2 x All-NBA 3rd team

Reggie Miller, Alex English and Adrian Dantley COMBINED:
0 x All-NBA 1st team
5 x All-NBA 2nd team
3 x All-NBA 3rd team

Damn... :roll:

Ok sure they are. But they’re also top 10-15 players of all-time because of those MVPs. So by this logic, you could spawn a top 10-15 player ever, which is much more significant then any 1st ball HOFer, just taking the difference between Jordan’s FMVPs and MVPs vs Lebron :oldlol:

[TheMan]

You finally moved from under the overpass huh? Im proud of you

:oldlol:

[TheGoatest]

Ok sure they are. But they’re also top 10-15 players of all-time because of those MVPs. So by this logic, you could spawn a top 10-15 player ever, which is much more significant then any 1st ball HOFer, just taking the difference between Jordan’s FMVPs and MVPs vs Lebron :oldlol:

:oldlol:
You're not "spawning" jack shit by "adding" something on top of other accomplishments. You can't find me an example of a player who has 2 Finals MVPs, but has NEGATIVE 3 All-NBA 1st teams, NEGATIVE 2 All-NBA 2nd teams and NEGATIVE 2 All-NBA 3rd teams.
On the other hand, I can find you several players whose entire HOF resumé is based on LeBron's surplus over jordon:
3 x All-NBA 1st team
2 x All-NBA 2nd team
2 x All-NBA 3rd team
4 x All-star selections

[kawhileonard2]

Need an answer on each thread below.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371

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