View Full Version : Have three elite 1st options from separate teams ever consolidated power on 1 team?
3ba11
07-25-2022, 06:54 PM
This would be unprecedented deck-stacking and Lebron did this TWICE
Imagine if Devin Booker consolidated power in the West by teaming up with Joker and KAT - this would steal organic rings from Curry just like Lebron's collusions stole organic chips from Curry, Duncan and KD.
Lebron's unprecedented collusions had locked down the league, so people were happy that Durant got to hand-pick the preseason favorite in 17' after Lebron did it the previous 6 (11-16')
8Ball
07-25-2022, 07:00 PM
Meltdown.
Bron surpassing Jordan made you unhinged.
sdot_thadon
07-25-2022, 07:02 PM
Super short term memory huh
Nets JUST tried Kyrie, Kd and Harden
Rockets just tried Cp3, melo,, and harden a few years back
2008 Celtics: Pierce, Allen, Garnett
2004 Lakers: Payton, Shaq, Malone
2012 Lakers: Kobe, Pau(memphis), Nash, Dwight
70s Lakers: Wilt, West, Baylor
And there's probably others I'm missing ....
Just for shits and giggles
1996 Bulls: Jordan, Pippen(94-95), Harper(clippers), kukoc(before the us)
3ba11
07-25-2022, 07:10 PM
Super short term memory huh
2008 Celtics: Pierce, Allen, Garnett
2004 Lakers: Payton, Shaq, Malone
2012 Lakers: Kobe, Pau(memphis), Nash, Dwight
70s Lakers: Wilt, West, Baylor
And there's probably others I'm missing ....
Just for shits and giggles
1996 Bulls: Jordan, Pippen(94-95), Harper(clippers), kukoc(before the us)
Those guys were old and those were GM deals (organic)
No one did what Lebron because it wasn't GM-driven - it was Lebron colluding and hand-picking prime guys
And Harper was a 7 ppg player in 95' before Jordan returned and Kukoc was never an elite 1st option.. you're a joke for even bringing it up - you get demolished in a debate and then run
Only Lebron stacked the deck
8Ball
07-25-2022, 07:14 PM
Jordan stacked the deck by joining a 55 win team.
Could have joined a lottery team in 1995 like Bron did in 2014 and 2018.
3ba11
07-25-2022, 07:15 PM
Only Lebron looked upon the NBA and asked:
"Who has the highest PER BPM, VORP and WS/48 aside from me? Who is the next-best player in the league?"
And then he teamed up with that guy
8Ball
07-25-2022, 07:18 PM
Only Lebron looked upon the NBA and asked:
"Who has the highest PER BPM, VORP and WS/48 aside from me? Who is the next-best player in the league?"
And then he teamed up with that guy
Nobody in the nba, player, coach or GM uses those stats so who cares.
3ba11
07-25-2022, 07:35 PM
Nobody in the nba, player, coach or GM uses those stats so who cares.
Wade was the #2 producer in the game and Lebron teamed up with him - unprecedented deck-stacking
8Ball
07-25-2022, 07:36 PM
Wade was the #2 producer in the game and Lebron teamed up with him - unprecedented deck-stacking
ESPN has Pippen ranked higher than Wade.
According to 3ball, allnba 1st team with all defence = goat domination, aka Pippen.
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07-25-2022, 07:37 PM
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3ba11
07-25-2022, 07:42 PM
ESPN has Pippen ranked higher than Wade.
According to 3ball, allnba 1st team with all defence = goat domination, aka Pippen.
ESPN?
Are they credible or are they just like "6 rings doh"
Pippen was a passenger and never a bus driver
He couldn't score!!!.. He was a hustler/defender/transition player - system player - Jordan is the only guy in history that lacked a go-to teammate, so he's the only guy that had to defeat maximum defensive attention in every series (carry scoring load)
FireDavidKahn
07-25-2022, 07:49 PM
But everyone has said for years that KAT is an empty stat loser and now all of a sudden he is a #1???????????
:roll:
sdot_thadon
07-25-2022, 07:49 PM
Those guys were old and those were GM deals (organic)
No one did what Lebron because it wasn't GM-driven - it was Lebron colluding and hand-picking prime guys
And Harper was a 7 ppg player in 95' before Jordan returned and Kukoc was never an elite 1st option.. you're a joke for even bringing it up - you get demolished in a debate and then run
Only Lebron stacked the deck
Demolished? Lol ok buddy. You got the most basic posting playbook ever, you gonna rough me up with your fake stats and deleted/edited posts? You ask stupid questions and once you get answers you didn't except you move the goalposts. Trash. Lebron wasn't the 1st and won't be the last, uh uh uh organic.
8Ball
07-25-2022, 07:50 PM
ESPN?
Are they credible or are they just like "6 rings doh"
Pippen was a passenger and never a bus driver
He couldn't score!!!.. He was a hustler/defender/transition player - system player - Jordan is the only guy in history that lacked a go-to teammate, so he's the only guy that had to defeat maximum defensive attention in every series (carry scoring load)
Won 55 games without Jordan using Pippen ball and Pippen had no 2nd option on that 1994 team.
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07-25-2022, 10:26 PM
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Won 55 games without Jordan using Pippen ball and Pippen had no 2nd option on that 1994 team.
The Bulls were borderline lottery in 95' before MJ returned, so Pippen destroyed a 3-peat dynasty to borderline lottery in less than 18 months..
This includes massive exposure in the 94' Playoffs - numerous massive chokes and a bunch of little ones too.. He embarrassed himself and was exposed as not being all-time caliber... 21.7 on 40% and destroyed by Ewing... 4th on his own team in WS/48
3ba11
07-25-2022, 10:40 PM
Demolished? Lol ok buddy. You got the most basic posting playbook ever, you gonna rough me up with your fake stats and deleted/edited posts? You ask stupid questions and once you get answers you didn't except you move the goalposts. Trash. Lebron wasn't the 1st and won't be the last, uh uh uh organic.
You don't respond to the points being made
You said that Lebron eventually got the same cast that everyone else was handed... Except Jordan was handed an 8 ppg rookie, which doesn't compare to Wade/Bosh and Year 1 favorite status (easiest path possible), or getting handed the East all-star center and a 22/5/5 all-defender
You were destroyed on these points..
You simply ignore that Lebron's skillset of turning teammates into spot-up shooter lacks the teammate development and fits to win organically, so he needs ready-made stars and must be a talent-based winner (all-star team strategy)
Demolished? Lol ok buddy. You got the most basic posting playbook ever, you gonna rough me up with your fake stats and deleted/edited posts? You ask stupid questions and once you get answers you didn't except you move the goalposts. Trash. Lebron wasn't the 1st and won't be the last, uh uh uh organic.
Lebron needed 3 years to develop his team into a favored high seed before entering the 06' Playoffs.. So he never had to carry bad teams in the playoffs like Jordan did
Lebron had a 50-win 2 seed that beat a 53-win 1 seed in 2007 - anyone can do that especially if it only takes 25 on 45% for the series - Jordan NEVER had a series that bad, yet Lebron went to the Finals with it.. He averaged 25 on 45% in the ECF and for those Eastern Playoffs - worse than Jordan played in any series.
Shooter
07-25-2022, 10:48 PM
Meltdown.
Bron surpassing Jordan made you unhinged.
8Ball
07-25-2022, 10:49 PM
Meltdown.
Bron surpassing Jordan made you unhinged.
Good post.
3ball took a massive L today. Admitted that Scottie Pippen had 3 dominant seasons with 1st team all-nba + all defence teams.
3ba11
07-25-2022, 10:55 PM
Good post.
3ball took a massive L today. Admitted that Scottie Pippen had 3 dominant seasons with 1st team all-nba + all defence teams.
Winning 2nd options get a lot of accolades they didn't deserve
I've said for years that Pippen didn't deserve All-NBA nearly every year that he got it - he only deserved it in 92' and 94'.. And not 1st team
So you lose again by inflating the most overrated player type ever - winning sidekicks - they play at an Iggy or Wiggins caliber but the winning spotlight inflates them to all-time status
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