View Full Version : Players with Mvp, finals mvp, scoring champ and 1st team all defense in one season?
2much_knowledge
07-27-2022, 05:49 PM
Lets see the list.....
Jordan 1991
Jordan 1992
Jordan 1996
Jordan 1998
Why any other player hasnt been able to do this once?
How many decades till it gets done again?
ShawkFactory
07-27-2022, 05:57 PM
Off the top of my head shaq is the only one close. He was second team defense in 2000
warriorfan
07-27-2022, 05:57 PM
Goats gonna goat
Jordan fam stand up
ClipperRevival
07-27-2022, 08:46 PM
Off the top of my head shaq is the only one close. He was second team defense in 2000
Yup, only 2nd team all D.
No one in the history of the game achieved this and MJ did it 4 times.
MJ never ceases to amaze me with his DOMINANCE.
ClipperRevival
07-27-2022, 08:48 PM
Goats gonna goat
Jordan fam stand up
https://c.tenor.com/EY8ZLOFPqGAAAAAd/michael-jordan-dancing.gif
3ba11
07-27-2022, 08:50 PM
Yup, only 2nd team all D.
No one is the history of the game achieved this and MJ did it 4 times.
MJ never ceases to amaze me with his DOMINANCE.
Lebron's All-NBA is objectively less dominant because his All-NBA doesn't come with scoring title or all-defense - he wasn't all-defense in his 30's
And he needed elite producers at sidekick that could average 25-30 and exceed his playoff scoring (11', 16', 20').. Meanwhile, Jordan averaged 10-30 more than Pippen in every series, so he always defeated maximum defensive attention (carried scoring load).
Lebron is nowhere near MJ's dominance
ShawkFactory
07-27-2022, 08:59 PM
Yup, only 2nd team all D.
No one in the history of the game achieved this and MJ did it 4 times.
MJ never ceases to amaze me with his DOMINANCE.
Kareem in 71 too. 2nd team all D
3ba11
07-27-2022, 09:02 PM
Kareem in 71 too. 2nd team all D
So no one matched Jordan's goat standard of dominance? Got it
ShawkFactory
07-27-2022, 09:04 PM
So no one matched Jordan's goat standard of dominance? Got it
I didn’t say someone did.
You have a sickness..
AlternativeAcc.
07-27-2022, 09:07 PM
Media voted awards :sleeping
Jordan was never his teams best scorer, playmaker, and defender
Lebron has been almost every year
There's levels
SouBeachTalents
07-27-2022, 09:44 PM
Asking genuinely, was Jordan really still one of the 2 best defensive guards in the league by '98? Payton got the other spot, then you'd have the likes of Kidd, Blaylock & Eddie Jones in contention.
Full Court
07-27-2022, 10:33 PM
Asking genuinely, was Jordan really still one of the 2 best defensive guards in the league by '98? Payton got the other spot, then you'd have the likes of Kidd, Blaylock & Eddie Jones in contention.
Yeah, he had started slowing down a bit by then, but he was still tenacious and read his opponents well.
SATAN
07-27-2022, 10:47 PM
Not bad for a 1-9 caliber player.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-27-2022, 10:49 PM
1st team All-NBA those years too
https://media4.giphy.com/media/800XZuRBKTeco/giphy.gif?cid=790b76118fb00aa3e67349263c9e1b726887 4c7c4dfe516e&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g
Complete and utter dominance.
Not bad for a 1-9 caliber player.
:milton
kawhileonard2
07-28-2022, 12:10 AM
Not bad for a 1-9 caliber player.
Need an answer on each thread below.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT
Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher
Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2
Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED
Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.
Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds
https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html
And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.
Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron
Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482
Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats
Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600
How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry
Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360
Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.
Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.
LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming
https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:
http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html
First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371
https://media0.giphy.com/media/l0ErLeqamV3UOARsA/giphy.gif
2much_knowledge
07-28-2022, 08:22 PM
Off the top of my head shaq is the only one close. He was second team defense in 2000
Yup. Absolute peak Shaq the closest.
2much_knowledge
07-28-2022, 08:22 PM
Goats gonna goat
Jordan fam stand up
We stay winning like the goat. W i n n i n g
sdot_thadon
07-29-2022, 12:29 AM
Mj was one, bad, dude. However I always chuckle at scoring title being mentioned like it's the heavyweight title lol. Can any of you remember when dunk contest winner was one of the more prominent accolades guys would list for him?
sdot_thadon
07-29-2022, 12:34 AM
Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA.
Finally skimmed one of these posts and gotcha. Cover blown. HCA lol.
hold this L
07-29-2022, 01:48 AM
https://c.tenor.com/85BRGXDHhF4AAAAd/jordan-dancing.gif
Shooter
07-29-2022, 02:00 AM
0-6 vs Bird
Losing record to Isiah, Bird, & Hakeem
Next
https://c.tenor.com/85BRGXDHhF4AAAAd/jordan-dancing.gif
:roll:
TheMan
07-29-2022, 02:36 AM
Not bad for a 1-9 caliber player.
Spelling is pretty good for a mentally retarded kid.
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