If Mo Williams' prime occurred today, he would be averaging 25 ppg

[3ba11]

His three-point attempts would double from 5 to 10 per game, which opens up his drive and playmaking game.

Mo was a 6 assist guy, so he wasn't just a shooter like Klay

The Cavs' were a bummy, 45-win team in 2008, so Mo didn't join a winner - he MADE them a winner by showing everyone how much Lebron's game needs shooting.

The 09' Cavs had the 3rd-ranked defense compared to 19th for the 90' Bulls, while Mo destroyed Pippen across the board offensively (PER, BPM, VORP, WS/48, scoring, efficiency).. So Lebron started off with a better team on both sides of the ball, yet Jordan still beat him to titles.

[1987_Lakers]

I can't trust a guy who thought Oubre > Klay

[SouBeachTalents]

Anyway, here are some Bill Russell highlights


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSdfIEf9HOY&ab_channel=AL%27SHIGHLIGHTSWORLD


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F7WgNM9SHA&ab_channel=HouseofHighlights


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT5GlgXrX-0&ab_channel=FoobasSports

[3ba11]

Anyway, here are some Bill Russell highlights


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSdfIEf9HOY&ab_channel=AL%27SHIGHLIGHTSWORLD


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F7WgNM9SHA&ab_channel=HouseofHighlights


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT5GlgXrX-0&ab_channel=FoobasSports


Quit virtue-signaling you weak beta

It's obvious from your debate style that you're a low character person that lacks integrity and backbone.. smh

You ain't fooling nobody.. :no:

[JohnMax]

Quit virtue-signaling you weak beta

It's obvious from your debate style that you're a low character person that lacks integrity and backbone.. smh

You ain't fooling nobody.. :no:

Something is not right with that guy. He's got female tendencies. Probably why he loves Lebron.

[sdot_thadon]

Mo Williams gets more threads on here than nba legends. 3ball how about you go into your bunker and come out with a banger of a thread about Bill Russell or Dr.J, somebody new.

[warriorfan]

Quit virtue-signaling you weak beta

It's obvious from your debate style that you're a low character person that lacks integrity and backbone.. smh

You ain't fooling nobody.. :no:

Using Bill Russell’s death as a distraction from how much help LeBron really had.

Disgusting.

[Hey Yo]

What years are considered Mo's prime?

[warriorfan]

What years are considered Mo's prime?

What Is your opinion?

And…


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_9gGorAfqI

Was this post prime?

[ShawkFactory]

:lol

[kawhileonard2]

He would have been Steph Curry.

[light]

Mo Williams literally cried when LeBron left Cleveland the first time and if I remember the quote correctly he said something melodramatic like, "we were supposed to stay together forever and win together" - so it was very touching that LeBron finally won him a championship in 2016.

In 2016 LeBron was the only person on the Cavs to make an All-NBA team or an All-Defensive team or to win any award at all and they still beat the 73-9 Warriors in the finals in perhaps the greatest finals performance of all-time.

Michael Jordan could never...

https://i.ibb.co/k5359jw/Finals-Leaders-1991-1993.png https://i.ibb.co/wYxMRXx/Finals-Leaders-1996-1998.png

https://i.ibb.co/Sf6PLJC/Finals-Leaders-2016.png

[light]

Carrying on...

https://i.ibb.co/dbWncfv/lebron-finals-first-5.png https://i.ibb.co/vkPxwmV/lebron-finals-second-5.png

There are 60 available spaces for LeBron's finals and LeBron's face appears 33 times. That’s 55% of all available spaces!

LeBron’s teammates only appear 8 times!

In my previous post you can see Jordan’s finals where there were 36 available spaces and MJ’s face appears 8 times while Pippen’s face appears 7 times.

That’s MJ occupying 22% of all available spaces while Pippen occupies 19% of all available spaces. Quite even.

No Pip, no chip.

But even if you combine Jordan and Pippen that would still only make up 41% of all available spaces. Compare that to LeBron's 55%.

LeBron did more than Jordan and Pippen combined.

Conclusion 1: Daryl Morey is right and LeBron James is better than Michael Jordan "by a bit of a margin."

Conclusion 2: The Jordan v LeBron debate is really a Jordan-Pippen v LeBron debate and Michael Jordan needs Scottie Pippen in order to compete with LeBron because he cannot hang with LeBron in direct competition.

[8Ball]

Carrying on...

https://i.ibb.co/dbWncfv/lebron-finals-first-5.png https://i.ibb.co/vkPxwmV/lebron-finals-second-5.png

There are 60 available spaces for LeBron's finals and LeBron's face appears 33 times. That’s 55% of all available spaces!

LeBron’s teammates only appear 8 times!

In my previous post you can see Jordan’s finals where there were 36 available spaces and MJ’s face appears 8 times while Pippen’s face appears 7 times.

That’s MJ occupying 22% of all available spaces while Pippen occupies 19% of all available spaces. Quite even.

No Pip, no chip.

But even if you combine Jordan and Pippen that would still only make up 41% of all available spaces. Compare that to LeBron's 55%.

LeBron did more than Jordan and Pippen combined.

Conclusion 1: Daryl Morey is right and LeBron James is better than Michael Jordan "by a bit of a margin."

Conclusion 2: The Jordan v LeBron debate is really a Jordan-Pippen v LeBron debate and Michael Jordan needs Scottie Pippen in order to compete with LeBron because he cannot hang with LeBron in direct competition.

You're actually the best poster here in ISH.

Factual and concise.

[kawhileonard2]

Carrying on. Need to see titles for franchise that drafted you. 1 in 11 years won't cut it. Steph did better than that.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371

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[Taurus]

There were only 10 players last year that cracked 25 ppg. Every single one of them is far better than Mo was even at his peak.