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post
08-01-2022, 04:50 AM
lauren jackson 35.04 2007
lauren jackson 34.51 2006
nikola jokic 32.85 2022
elena delle donne 32.71 2015
cynthia cooper 32.16 1997
wilt chamberlain 32.08 1962
lauren jackson 32.07 2003
sheryl swoopes 32.05 2000
giannis antetokounmpo 32.05 2022
yolanda griffith 31.88 1999

could be a long time before that record gets broken


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jZTGg5J6Ss

post
08-01-2022, 03:17 PM
best free throw shooter at least this planet has ever seen


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEHbB-9JvUo

theman93
08-01-2022, 03:22 PM
Interesting. How many games did she play in 2006 and 2007?

post
08-01-2022, 07:24 PM
Interesting. How many games did she play in 2006 and 2007?

30 out of 34 and 31 out of 34

2nd and 1st in minutes per game

post
08-01-2022, 07:29 PM
30 out of 34 and 31 out of 34

2nd and 1st in minutes per game

on her team that is

post
08-01-2022, 08:46 PM
delle donne still doing it in 2022


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGFVoH4DFFU

post
08-01-2022, 09:10 PM
cynthia cooper was 34 when the wnba started in 97

likely past her peak but still an all time great


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa2Zg3jYc9Y

post
08-01-2022, 10:11 PM
what's also interesting about those 3 is they are top 3 in career per

cynthia cooper 28.72
elena delle donnne 28.42
lauren jackson 27.93

jordan is 4th at 27.91

SATAN
08-01-2022, 10:26 PM
what's also interesting about those 3 is they are top 3 in career per

cynthia cooper 28.72
elena delle donnne 28.42
lauren jackson 27.93

jordan is 4th at 27.91

Interesting.

RRR3
08-01-2022, 10:31 PM
what's also interesting about those 3 is they are top 3 in career per

cynthia cooper 28.72
elena delle donnne 28.42
lauren jackson 27.93

jordan is 4th at 27.91
Keep in mind these stats are based on your production relative to the rest of the league. There has literally never been an WNBA player who produced like MJ in terms of rate stats+efficiency. Looking at Jackson’s stats interesting how she was atrociously inefficient her first two years but then very efficient afterwards.

SouBeachTalents
08-01-2022, 11:08 PM
Comparing the NBA with the WNBA is obviously a very reasonable and logical thing to do. The two leagues are essentially the same in terms of competition and play, with basically all analysts and fans holding an equal reverence for both leagues. So it makes perfect sense to compare stats from both leagues and give them equal billing, we should do the same with the NBA & the NCAA, high school too.

RRR3
08-01-2022, 11:14 PM
Comparing the NBA with the WNBA is obviously a very reasonable and logical thing to do. The two leagues are essentially the same in terms of competition and play, with basically all analysts and fans holding an equal reverence for both leagues. So it makes perfect sense to compare stats from both leagues and give them equal billing, we should do the same with the NBA & the NCAA, high school too.
Most leagues are similarly competitive are they not? The level of play is obviously different though given men’s athletic advantages.

FultzNationRISE
08-01-2022, 11:21 PM
The weird thing is just yesterday ESPN reported that a “new power lifting world record” was set in the dead lift.

The article went on to describe the event and the lady who set it, and referred only to the accomplishment as a “new world record.”

The article did not mention anything about it being a woman’s world record or the fact the men’s world record is nearly twice as heavy. It strictly stated that this woman set a new world record, period.

So, thats the state of journalism today.

OP you a Disney bot bro??

post
08-02-2022, 12:46 AM
Keep in mind these stats are based on your production relative to the rest of the league. There has literally never been an WNBA player who produced like MJ in terms of rate stats+efficiency. Looking at Jackson’s stats interesting how she was atrociously inefficient her first two years but then very efficient afterwards.

for anyone who doesn't know there is a formula used to calculate per which uses box score stats

efficiency stats like fg% 3p% ft% are part of that

a per of 15 is average in nba or wnba any year

35 is goat

post
08-02-2022, 12:48 AM
Comparing the NBA with the WNBA is obviously a very reasonable and logical thing to do. The two leagues are essentially the same in terms of competition and play, with basically all analysts and fans holding an equal reverence for both leagues. So it makes perfect sense to compare stats from both leagues and give them equal billing, we should do the same with the NBA & the NCAA, high school too.

the smart thing for the next wilt or shaq to do would be take advice from delle donne on how to shoot free throws

post
08-02-2022, 12:51 AM
Most leagues are similarly competitive are they not? The level of play is obviously different though given men’s athletic advantages.

this

post
08-02-2022, 12:53 AM
The weird thing is just yesterday ESPN reported that a “new power lifting world record” was set in the dead lift.

The article went on to describe the event and the lady who set it, and referred only to the accomplishment as a “new world record.”

The article did not mention anything about it being a woman’s world record or the fact the men’s world record is nearly twice as heavy. It strictly stated that this woman set a new world record, period.

So, thats the state of journalism today.

OP you a Disney bot bro??

no i could never work in the media

too honest

post
08-02-2022, 04:10 AM
3 time mvp/3 time dpoy with 5 time mvp/1 time dpoy

https://i.ibb.co/Qmcdg01/ET-CU-a-X0-AE02m-Q-1.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcv3EjmldNs

post
08-02-2022, 06:16 AM
a team of the top 5 single season per women would be scary good

lauren jackson
yolanda griffith
elena delle donne
sheryl swoopes
cynthia cooper


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K_4HUlhB3w

post
08-02-2022, 05:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77wfpjFRwiI

post
08-02-2022, 08:37 PM
some may remember the trash talking between brittney griner and demarcus cousins

turns out griner was better than cousins according to per

griner peak per 28.7

cousins peak per 26.1

post
08-02-2022, 11:57 PM
candace parker and charles barkley trash talking was another classic

parker peak per 31.77

barkley peak per 28.93

RRR3
08-03-2022, 12:44 AM
candace parker and charles barkley trash talking was another classic

parker peak per 31.77

barkley peak per 28.93
Yes clearly she is better at basketball than Barkley :rolleyes:

post
08-03-2022, 02:07 AM
Yes clearly she is better at basketball than Barkley :rolleyes:

according to per she is from a peak perspective

career basically identical

parker career per 24.64

barkley career per 24.63

post
08-03-2022, 03:34 AM
bonus fact

parker's team beat griner's team in the finals last year

post
08-03-2022, 03:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGhdezGxcak

post
08-03-2022, 03:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZEethFBfIA

Sulico
08-03-2022, 04:24 AM
Zion Williamson PER in college was 40.

post
08-03-2022, 05:32 AM
Zion Williamson PER in college was 40.

impressive but can't say how it compares to other men in college history since they don't have per stats before 2010

and they don't have college women's per stats at all as far as i know

zion's 27 per in the nba as a 20 year old and luka's 27.6 per in the nba as a 20 year old were all time level for that age or younger in the nba

RRR3
08-03-2022, 08:56 AM
according to per she is from a peak perspective

career basically identical

parker career per 24.64

barkley career per 24.63
:facepalm

What do you think her PER would be in the NBA?

Sulico
08-03-2022, 09:26 AM
impressive but can't say how it compares to other men in college history since they don't have per stats before 2010

and they don't have college women's per stats at all as far as i know

zion's 27 per in the nba as a 20 year old and luka's 27.6 per in the nba as a 20 year old were all time level for that age or younger in the nba

Doesn't matter how it compares to other college players. But we can compare it to Zions PER in the NBA and see that PER is affected by competition you play against.

And that makes your comparison of PER in NBA and WNBA a little crazy and unnecessary.

post
08-03-2022, 04:16 PM
:facepalm

What do you think her PER would be in the NBA?

i don't know

in her wnba body probably lower

if she had an nba body it could be higher or lower or equal

stats like per tell you what i do know

RRR3
08-03-2022, 04:19 PM
i don't know

in her wnba body probably lower

if she had an nba body it could be higher or lower or equal

stats like per tell you what i do know
“Probably” lower? :roll:

Lebron23
08-03-2022, 04:20 PM
NBA is better than the WNBA

post
08-03-2022, 04:38 PM
Doesn't matter how it compares to other college players. But we can compare it to Zions PER in the NBA and see that PER is affected by competition you play against.

And that makes your comparison of PER in NBA and WNBA a little crazy and unnecessary.

it matters how it compares to other college players for the sake of saying who had the highest per in college history

which as i said we can't know because the stats are not available

i can say john wall had a higher peak per in the nba than he did in college

other nba players have done the same

is what i'm saying original and interesting? i think so

crazy? i don't think so

unnecessary? is anything that gets said necessary?

post
08-03-2022, 04:39 PM
“Probably” lower? :roll:

that's what i said

i don't speak in certainties about anything really

RRR3
08-03-2022, 04:41 PM
that's what i said

i don't speak in certainties about anything really
If you don’t think Charles Barkley being better at basketball than Candace Parker is a certainty you are completely delusional.

post
08-03-2022, 04:41 PM
NBA is better than the WNBA

depends on what you mean by better

one is the best man's league in the world

the other is the best woman's league in the world

i have been a fan of both for a long time

post
08-03-2022, 04:54 PM
If you don’t think Charles Barkley being better at basketball than Candace Parker is a certainty you are completely delusional.

i'm open minded

RRR3
08-03-2022, 05:05 PM
i'm denying reality in an attempt to be edgy
Fixed.

Overdrive
08-03-2022, 05:13 PM
best free throw shooter at least this planet has ever seen


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEHbB-9JvUo

Her form looks odd.

LAL
08-03-2022, 05:14 PM
Can someone move this thread to the wnba forum?

post
08-03-2022, 05:15 PM
Fixed.

you can believe that if you want

at the end of the day i'm just keeping myself occupied with things i find interesting to different degrees

if a woman is better than a man at basketball in one sense or more i don't find that threatening

it should be accepted

post
08-03-2022, 05:19 PM
Her form looks odd.

she is more than 40% higher than shaq from the line for her career

post
08-03-2022, 05:20 PM
Can someone move this thread to the wnba forum?

the truth does tend to get buried

RRR3
08-03-2022, 05:25 PM
you can believe that if you want

at the end of the day i'm just keeping myself occupied with things i find interesting to different degrees

if a woman is better than a man at basketball in one sense or more i don't find that threatening

it should be accepted
I don’t find it threatening if women are better at basketball than me, I find your delusions annoying. Back when I played basketball regularly I was a 6 foot unathletic hustle guy with trash handles and a suspect shot, I’m sure plenty of women could beat me. I am also not Charles Barkley who was a physical freak and one of the greatest players of all time. He would be literally unstoppable in the WNBA and you know it.

LAL
08-03-2022, 05:29 PM
the truth does tend to get buried

This should get buried and the wnba forum would be ideal place for that.


Enough woke crap, you don't see me post nba stuff on a wnba forum.

LAL
08-03-2022, 05:32 PM
Back when I played basketball regularly I was a 5 foot unathletic gay guy with trash handles and a suspect shot, I’m sure plenty of women could beat me.

Just thought this was funny :roll:

RRR3
08-03-2022, 05:35 PM
Just thought this was funny :roll:
I mean are you delusional enough to think you could beat Breanna Stewart? I didn’t say random women would beat me.

LAL
08-03-2022, 05:44 PM
I mean are you delusional enough to think you could beat Breanna Stewart? I didn’t say random women would beat me.

You have no idea. But that wasn't why i had to laugh..

RRR3
08-03-2022, 09:17 PM
You have no idea. But that wasn't why i had to laugh..
No you’re some 5’1 troll on the internet with the intelligence of a rodent I know she’d wax your ass Nigel.

post
08-03-2022, 10:17 PM
I don’t find it threatening if women are better at basketball than me, I find your delusions annoying. Back when I played basketball regularly I was a 6 foot unathletic hustle guy with trash handles and a suspect shot, I’m sure plenty of women could beat me. I am also not Charles Barkley who was a physical freak and one of the greatest players of all time. He would be literally unstoppable in the WNBA and you know it.

if my so called delusions are annoying then you can stop talking to me

that is an option

as for the rest of what you said

don't know how much you practiced but it is important if you want to improve

the point of the thread is obviously not what charles barkley would do in the wnba

or what wnba players would do playing against college or high school male players or you

the point of the thread is to present stats

that show a woman at the highest level can be a better basketball player in her league than a man at the highest level is in his league

which is not a novel concept when comparing men and women athletes but using per for comparing nba and wnba i've never seen done

post
08-03-2022, 10:19 PM
This should get buried and the wnba forum would be ideal place for that.


Enough woke crap, you don't see me post nba stuff on a wnba forum.

you probably think griner should be buried in a russian prison too

it would take a long time to teach you how to be even a decent person

post
08-03-2022, 10:21 PM
I mean are you delusional enough to think you could beat Breanna Stewart? I didn’t say random women would beat me.

credit for mentioning breanna's name

she is one of the best

Overdrive
08-03-2022, 11:14 PM
she is more than 40% higher than shaq from the line for her career

So? Doesn't make her form less odd.

post
08-04-2022, 01:45 AM
So? Doesn't make her form less odd.

however odd you think her form is doesn't make it go in any less

post
08-04-2022, 01:57 AM
breanna had a season high 33 last game

battling with a'ja wilson for the 2022 per title

from earlier this year


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-INDcV_cE0

post
08-04-2022, 02:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no1BAm3RWrE

bison
08-04-2022, 02:53 AM
RRR3 has the same attitude toward women that Patrick Chewing has toward blacks.

RRR3
08-04-2022, 11:48 AM
I am frequently one of the only posters on here who doesn’t sound like a ****ing bitter 4chan user about women but me stating the fact that men are better at basketball means I hate them. Bison is as dumb as a catfish.

post
08-04-2022, 04:03 PM
I am frequently one of the only posters on here who doesn’t sound like a ****ing bitter 4chan user about women but me stating the fact that men are better at basketball means I hate them. Bison is as dumb as a catfish.

diana taurasi who is one of the best women's players ever said it would be a long shot for her to make the nba in her wnba body

by advancing the discourse a little with per comparisons perhaps some will be persuaded the wnba is actually a worthwhile league after all

RRR3
08-04-2022, 04:28 PM
diana taurasi who is one of the best women's players ever said it would be a long shot for her to make the nba in her wnba body

by advancing the discourse a little with per comparisons perhaps some will be persuaded the wnba is actually a worthwhile league after all
It’s totally a valid league no disagreement there. It’s not the same as the NBA but if you want to watch a basketball game it can still be fun. Outside of a few years ago I never really have watched it tho.

post
08-04-2022, 09:32 PM
It’s totally a valid league no disagreement there. It’s not the same as the NBA but if you want to watch a basketball game it can still be fun. Outside of a few years ago I never really have watched it tho.

this is from 5 years ago


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VO7aFUMcWc