View Full Version : Minneapolis teachers union new contract states white teachers must be laid off first
Long Duck Dong
08-16-2022, 02:21 PM
Regardless of seniority or performance
Minneapolis teachers union contract states white teachers will be laid off or reassigned before educators of color if a reduction in staff is initiated, Alpha News reports.
The Star Tribune reports the “seniority-disrupting language” in the policy is rare among school districts across the nation, and at least one Constitutional law attorney has called the contract’s proviso a violation of the Constitution and Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.
But the move is billed as a way to retain teachers of color by those who support it.
How can this be even remotely legal and notice it's nowhere in the mainstream media. But if it had been black teachers laid off first it would be all over the news.
https://www.kpvi.com/news/national_news/minneapolis-teachers-union-contract-would-lay-off-white-teachers-first/article_6637a041-7cf4-546a-9044-69fef93e2ce8.html
theman93
08-16-2022, 02:31 PM
social justice bro
Patrick Chewing
08-16-2022, 02:55 PM
This is how Liberals combat racism. By performing racism.
rawimpact
08-16-2022, 03:02 PM
This is how Liberals combat racism. By performing racism.
What do you think affirmative action is?
The idea of helping a race of individuals by punishing the other races in the workforce, education etc. etc. sectors.
I'm all for helping all races, but not by lowering the bar.
Doomsday Dallas
08-16-2022, 03:30 PM
This is how Liberals combat racism. By performing racism.
and they just keep on getting better & better at it.
Nanners
08-16-2022, 05:47 PM
If the woke narrative is true and white people really are the most evil, powerful and ruthless people on this planet, and its true that white people recently conquered the whole globe and enslaved or subjugated everyone that didnt look like them simply because of their lust for power and money... doesnt it seem like it might be a mistake to demonize and alienate these people?
FultzNationRISE
08-16-2022, 06:07 PM
Wouldnt sweat it.
This is like the move to put Tub on the dub. How often do people even use cash anymore? Itll be entirely obsolete in 10 years max. Fussing over who’s on the bill when it’s about to disappear is silly.
Understand that teaching will soon go the same way. These timings are no coincidence. Theyre token political gestures with toothless substance. The future changes things and the people at the top always see those changes first. Kids en masse will soon be learning virtually/via the cloud etc. The role of the school teacher who stands at a blackboard and is brought a nice red apple by her best student is also donezo in 10 years max. Gone. This is basically a handy warning to anyone shrewd enough to read between the lines.
The next 10-20 years is going to see the eradication of a LOT of what we currently think of as “normal.” Society is about to start transforming at hyper speed.
Either get involved (the most advisable option) or just sit back and enjoy the show. But it’s def not worth wringin any hands over.
Long Duck Dong
08-16-2022, 06:19 PM
Well this is really is spearheaded by white liberals. Blacks and latinos really were only striving for equal treatment and equal opportunity. They have that now. But white liberals want them to strive for equal equity which everyone knows cannot happen unless you discriminate against Asians and whites because they have more overachievers. They are like we only wanted to be treated equally but if it benefits us to discriminate a little and you white liberals want to help us us fvck over your own race then why not. :lol They didn't even know they were supposed to support racism until white liberals told them they could get away with it and benefit from it. White liberal elites are like Charles Manson, they see themselves as champions and leaders of the blacks and latinos because they have influence over them. The second they lose that influence it's these same type of people who becomes fascists and Nazis because it's now a bigger cause to champion and feel important about.
While other big states are faltering academically , Florida is soaring in terms of school achievement. Florida has school vouchers for parents that want to put their children in private school(why should parents without children in public school help pay for it?). And DeSantis now wants to fastrack retired first responders with BAs to become teachers because they are more likely to focus on real life experiences and the curriculum rather than idealistic nonsense and social issues
Patrick Chewing
08-16-2022, 09:11 PM
No Libtard has replied to this thread yet.
Lakers Legend#32
08-17-2022, 01:05 AM
LOL!
All these people with GED's thinking they understand the education field.
Spuddywebby
08-17-2022, 11:04 AM
Hell yeah. Step in the right direction, now let’s work on reperations for Mexicans and Mexican descent Americans. 10k each, including kids. Free citizenship.
Reparations may be the dumbest concept to ever evolve in a human mind.
Off the Court
08-17-2022, 11:14 AM
I won't defend this. But I will say that there is a huge teacher shortage (hence the strike this was based on) right now and there are no teachers of any race at risk of being laid off any time soon. Also judging by the article it looks like it won't last long.
I will just assume it was written in because they probably have instances of black schools with white teachers which isn't ideal for black kids.
BigKobeFan
08-17-2022, 11:19 AM
After Muhammad Ali had won his match against George Foreman in the "Rumble in the Jungle" fight in Africa, he was asked by a reporter what he thought of Africa. Ali responded, "Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat!"
Patrick Chewing
08-17-2022, 11:46 AM
I will just assume it was written in because they probably have instances of black schools with white teachers which isn't ideal for black kids.
And why the hell not??
They did it just to make you mad, OP.
Long Duck Dong
08-17-2022, 12:00 PM
Hell yeah. Step in the right direction, now let’s work on reperations for Mexicans and Mexican descent Americans. 10k each, including kids. Free citizenship.
No way bud. Mexicans and the Spanish had slaves too. Don't try and squirm out of your portion of the bill. You're helping us pay for this shit. :lol
Off the Court
08-17-2022, 12:59 PM
And why the hell not??
Research shows black students fair better under black teachers. Better college success rate, better grades, etc.
https://www.edsurge.com/news/2021-09-09-to-achieve-educational-justice-we-need-more-black-teachers#:~:text=Multiple%20rigorous%20studies%20h ave%20shown,likely%20to%20go%20to%20college.
Multiple rigorous studies have shown the positive impact of teacher diversity on all learners, but especially Black students. When Black students have at least one Black teacher by 3rd grade, they’re 13 percent more likely to enroll in college. With two Black teachers, they are 32 percent more likely to go to college.
Black kids need black role models.
I'm not defending it. But I bet this is why it was written in. Black schools need at least some black teachers.
BigKobeFan
08-17-2022, 01:07 PM
Research shows black students fair better under black teachers. Better college success rate, better grades, etc.
https://www.edsurge.com/news/2021-09-09-to-achieve-educational-justice-we-need-more-black-teachers#:~:text=Multiple%20rigorous%20studies%20h ave%20shown,likely%20to%20go%20to%20college.
Black kids need black role models.
I'm not defending it. But I bet this is why it was written in. Black schools need at least some black teachers.
Black kids should have picked someone like Ali, George Foreman, and an old Tyson to be a role model, but instead they rather have someone like drake or TI to be one.
Patrick Chewing
08-17-2022, 01:17 PM
Research shows black students fair better under black teachers. Better college success rate, better grades, etc.
https://www.edsurge.com/news/2021-09-09-to-achieve-educational-justice-we-need-more-black-teachers#:~:text=Multiple%20rigorous%20studies%20h ave%20shown,likely%20to%20go%20to%20college.
Black kids need black role models.
I'm not defending it. But I bet this is why it was written in. Black schools need at least some black teachers.
If those stats are legit, that is merely because they lack Black role models at home. I find it silly that Blacks need to see other Blacks in their immediacy just to be successful. Seems there's a racial component of mistrust of others engrained in them from childhood. Cause I can tell you this much, the same doesn't apply for any other race. Just this one.
Off the Court
08-17-2022, 01:19 PM
Black kids should have picked someone like Ali, George Foreman, and an old Tyson to be a role model, but instead they rather have someone like drake or TI to be one.
Ali and Foreman sure, but Tyson? :oldlol:
But I think that is the point of this, they need more black teachers telling them to get their ass in college and stop trying to be TI.
BigKobeFan
08-17-2022, 01:36 PM
Ali and Foreman sure, but Tyson? :oldlol:
But I think that is the point of this, they need more black teachers telling them to get their ass in college and stop trying to be TI.
Have you seen the podcasts with old tyson? That guy is a calm philosopher. christ stop living in the 80s
Long Duck Dong
08-17-2022, 02:00 PM
Research shows black students fair better under black teachers. Better college success rate, better grades, etc.
https://www.edsurge.com/news/2021-09-09-to-achieve-educational-justice-we-need-more-black-teachers#:~:text=Multiple%20rigorous%20studies%20h ave%20shown,likely%20to%20go%20to%20college.
Black kids need black role models.
I'm not defending it. But I bet this is why it was written in. Black schools need at least some black teachers.
Seems like some pretty cherry picked data. 1 or 2 black teachers by 3rd grade? I wonder what the stats are for mostly black teachers K-12? Those districts with mostly black teachers and administrators must be setting the world on fire.
Off the Court
08-17-2022, 02:27 PM
Have you seen the podcasts with old tyson? That guy is a calm philosopher. christ stop living in the 80s
Plenty of athletes are good people but blacks to be done with the mindset that they only way they can make it is to rap or play sports. They need role models in their real life.
Long Duck Dong
08-17-2022, 02:39 PM
Plenty of athletes are good people but blacks to be done with the mindset that they only way they can make it is to rap or play sports. They need role models in their real life.
Do children of East and Indian Asian immigrants have lots of role models apart from their family? I've never been to a school with a significant number of Asian teachers. How do they consistently destroy us American whites in school and make it to college with almost no teachers that look like them or even very many role models on TV?
Spuddywebby
08-17-2022, 02:58 PM
I went to a private high school and in the middle of the school year an Iranian kid suddenly shows up as a new student. Not sure what his story was, he spoke broken English and was a year younger than all of us. That day we are in math class where we had a scheduled test and the teacher tells the kid “just try to do whatever you understand”. The kid was the first to finish, 15-20 minutes ahead of anyone else, so we’re all thinking this kid must not know anything coming from a backwards country. The next day the teacher tells us he got a perfect score on the test. I’m pretty sure that kid went on to big things in this country without any more Iranian teachers in his life.
Another issue I have is ESL. My parents spoke broken English and when I went to kindergarten I knew nothing in English. There were no ESL classes/options back then. You were thrown into the fire and you learned the language. When I see young people in this country, who have been living here for 5-10 years, and barely speak English I go insane.
FultzNationRISE
08-17-2022, 03:08 PM
Research shows black students fair better under black teachers. Better college success rate, better grades, etc.
https://www.edsurge.com/news/2021-09-09-to-achieve-educational-justice-we-need-more-black-teachers#:~:text=Multiple%20rigorous%20studies%20h ave%20shown,likely%20to%20go%20to%20college.
Black kids need black role models.
I'm not defending it. But I bet this is why it was written in. Black schools need at least some black teachers.
Gee this almost sounds like segregation.
But but I was told that was a morality issue, not just something indoctrinated into parrot sheeple by wealthy industrialists and financiers who wanted cheap black labor making them rich, setting black achievement decades behind and creating massive wealth imbalance for the majority of working Americans of all races.
Oops!
Patrick Chewing
08-17-2022, 03:35 PM
If a White parent comes out and says they prefer that their child have a White teacher cause they'll learn better....how do you guys think that would be received??
Off the Court
08-17-2022, 03:43 PM
I do not agree with the philosophy of using race to decide who gets hired or who gets fired. I think that is the wrong way to go about it. I'm just pointing out how it probably came about. And I bet if they have black schools with all white teachers that even those white teachers are begging for more black adults to help them.
Obviously this is a complex issue without a clear path that works perfectly for all involved. And obviously blacks have bigger issues that are ingrained into their culture. But like I said earlier, right now there is a huge teacher shortage and there are no teachers of any race at threat of being laid off so it feels pointless to debate it all anyway. It would be different if there were lots of unemployed teachers all fighting for jobs, but that isn't the situation at all.
FultzNationRISE
08-17-2022, 05:07 PM
I do not agree with the philosophy of using race to decide who gets hired or who gets fired. I think that is the wrong way to go about it. I'm just pointing out how it probably came about. And I bet if they have black schools with all white teachers that even those white teachers are begging for more black adults to help them.
Obviously this is a complex issue without a clear path that works perfectly for all involved. And obviously blacks have bigger issues that are ingrained into their culture. But like I said earlier, right now there is a huge teacher shortage and there are no teachers of any race at threat of being laid off so it feels pointless to debate it all anyway. It would be different if there were lots of unemployed teachers all fighting for jobs, but that isn't the situation at all.
My point is just that wealthy people tend to decide what morality is, while Millertime, Rrr3, RMWG, MaxFly, Primetime, etc etc etc hop on the bandwagon without understanding what theyre talking about or how openly theyre getting played.
But hey, that's the way it is and the way it's always been. Probably not about to change any time soon.
Off the Court
08-17-2022, 05:13 PM
My point is just that wealthy people tend to decide what morality is, while Millertime, Rrr3, RMWG, MaxFly, Primetime, etc etc etc hop on the bandwagon without understanding what theyre talking about or how openly theyre getting played.
But hey, that's the way it is and the way it's always been. Probably not about to change any time soon.
A teacher's union has dictated all of this.
FultzNationRISE
08-17-2022, 05:41 PM
A teacher's union has dictated all of this.
Yeah. Based on trendy narratives they've mindlessly absorbed from wealthy manipulators.
That's my point.
Long Duck Dong
08-17-2022, 05:51 PM
Obviously this is a complex issue without a clear path that works perfectly for all involved.
You never will. That's why you can only try and create equal opportunity for the individual. You'll never be able to create racial equity without being racist to some races. Some races are predisposed to being better at some things than others. It's basic genetic science and common sense. One of these days liberals will realize this, or rather they probably do realize they are being racist, but just don't care.
Off the Court
08-17-2022, 06:04 PM
You never will. That's why you can only try and create equal opportunity for the individual. You'll never be able to create racial equity without being racist to some races. Some races are predisposed to being better at some things than others. It's basic genetic science and common sense. One of these days liberals will realize this, or rather they probably do realize they are being racist, but just don't care.
My guess is that these teachers do understand it is racist but still are under the belief that it is what works best for black kids to succeed.
Nanners
08-23-2022, 03:53 AM
My guess is that these teachers do understand it is racist but still are under the belief that it is what works best for black kids to succeed.
How exactly does having a teacher of the same skin color help a child succeed? Is there any data that backs this claim or are you just assuming this?
theman93
08-23-2022, 09:17 AM
How exactly does having a teacher of the same skin color help a child succeed? Is there any data that backs this claim or are you just assuming this?
Being that Asians are the most educated race in America, I’m sure it was because of all the Asian school teachers they just so happened to be in the classroom of. What a coincidence!
Off the Court
08-23-2022, 10:28 AM
How exactly does having a teacher of the same skin color help a child succeed? Is there any data that backs this claim or are you just assuming this?
see page 2
Nanners
08-23-2022, 11:08 AM
see page 2
Where can I see page 2? On my account this thread only has one page
Patrick Chewing
08-23-2022, 11:13 AM
A teacher's union has dictated all of this.
Minnesota needs a Governor DeSantis.
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