How the NBA continues to make scoring easier [Thinking Basketball]

[Im Still Ballin]

A great video on a topic several posters talk about a lot.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IPXSqOhykg&ab_channel=ThinkingBasketball

[Im Still Ballin]

A Table of Contents for those who can't commit to a full 30-minute watch right now:

1:59
The evolution of carrying

4:40
The evolution of traveling

8:02
The evolution of continuation

10:21
The evolution of initiating contact

15:42
The evolution of the off-arm foul

18:17
The evolution of physical play

20:57
The evolution of flopping

22:03
The evolution of the leg kick

22:45
The evolution of shooting fouls

25:50
The evolution of screens

[Kblaze8855]

I have to get my oil changed later so I’ll watch this then. Looks interesting but also like the kinda thing nobody who doesn’t remember it happening will care about.

[sdot_thadon]

One of those that will be interesting to watch. Here? I'm pretty sure it will be avoided by most in the name of shielding idols from criticism lol.

[1987_Lakers]

This thinking basketball guy aka Ben Taylor has the best basketball content on YouTube. Funny thing is I actually used to see him post on realgm alot way back in like 2010 before he got a following, his username was TheRegular or something like that.

[sdot_thadon]

This thinking basketball guy aka Ben Taylor has the best basketball content on YouTube. Funny thing is I actually used to see him post on realgm alot way back in like 2010 before he got a following, his username was TheRegular or something like that.

Yeah he was a forum regular, I never posted there enough to participate in their projects but some good reads for comparisons.

[mr4speed]

A Table of Contents for those who can't commit to a full 30-minute watch right now:

1:59
The evolution of carrying

4:40
The evolution of traveling

8:02
The evolution of continuation

10:21
The evolution of initiating contact

15:42
The evolution of the off-arm foul

18:17
The evolution of physical play

20:57
The evolution of flopping

22:03
The evolution of the leg kick

22:45
The evolution of shooting fouls

25:50
The evolution of screens

Thank you for sharing this. I actually saw this for the first time 2 days ago and thought it was well done. This is a good example of why statistics can't really be compared between different eras without discussing the context of the rules and how the game was called by the officials. When I watch a game now, I am constantly saying out loud = "that's a travel" or "that's a carry" or "that's an offensive foul". I still enjoy watching basketball but the traveling and the flopping and complaining sometimes make it a chore to watch a game for me.

[3ba11]

A great video on a topic several posters talk about a lot.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IPXSqOhykg&ab_channel=ThinkingBasketball


It's an incomplete look that omits discussion of the illegal defense rules, the current defensive 3 seconds rule, the current no-impede rules, and I don't remember the video including anything on hand-checking and flagrant fouls

These effects were far greater than the carry and travel aspects, which defenders adjust to.. So when a new move is developed or when travels are increasingly ignored by refs, DEFENDERS ADJUST.. i.e. Iverson rocked MJ the first time he did that crossover, but never again.. So most of the stuff from the video is irrelevant and infact missed the aspect of the rules that matter (defensive 3, illegal defense rules, hands-off and no-impede rules, etc.)...

And stuff like how previous eras had an "outer lane" of the paint on both sides that had many implications - weakside defenders could camp in it indefinitely, according to illegal defense rules.. The illegal defense rules also allowed indefinite paint-camping in certain scenarios and defenders could sag off 3-point shooters to the edge of the paint.

[dankok8]

This thinking basketball guy aka Ben Taylor has the best basketball content on YouTube. Funny thing is I actually used to see him post on realgm alot way back in like 2010 before he got a following, his username was TheRegular or something like that.

TheRegul8r was a different lad. Ben Taylor is Elgee.

[3ba11]

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Video: It's gotten easier to score because of an increase in traveling, carrying and less physicality

Reality: Defenders adjust to changes in carrying or traveling, so the easier scoring is due to spacing (offensive strategy) and the league mandate in 2005 to make scoring easier via major rules changes (defensive 3 seconds, hand-checking, no-impede)

[jlip]

One of the best comments from a viewer:

"Well done, TB. An analysis like this one should be exhibit number one against any argument for one definitive GoaT, which is another way for me to say that if anyone wants to make a claim to one player's being the greatest of all time, they need to take each point from this video into consideration in adding to or subtracting from that one player's contribution to his era and applying it to some non-existent trans-era aggregation of qualifications, which, again, are by default unquantifiable."

[light]

Now if they would only move the three point line closer like they did for MJ.

[nayte]

From what I have read and been told all the dudes these days would be called for carrying and travelling compared to back then.

[TheGoatest]

Let me get this straight:
Scoring was tougher in the olden days, yet Wilt managed to average 50 ppg.
So what would he average in today's "easier" era? 75? :oldlol: 2-3 times more than anyone else in the league? :roll:

[nayte]

So you disagree with the clip?

[Gimmedarock]

Ignore that players are better.

[dankok8]

Let me get this straight:
Scoring was tougher in the olden days, yet Wilt managed to average 50 ppg.
So what would he average in today's "easier" era? 75? :oldlol: 2-3 times more than anyone else in the league? :roll:

He averaged that much because of insane pace and playing every minute of every game. He only averaged about 29 points/75 possessions in 1962 which is not an extraordinary scoring rate.