Lebron coddled by coaches at 10 yrs old, Hummers & 100M contract at 18, & super-teams

[3ba11]

What did he "overcome"?

His once-in-a-generation athletic talent got him moved in with the coach at 10 years old and completely coddled from that point forward with the best of everything - this included flying all over the country to play basketball, Hummers for his Mom and $100 million before he ever dribbled a ball in the NBA

How is that "overcoming" anything?..

He was completely coddled from when he was 10 years old and then was coddled in the league with super-teams!!

The only thing he really had to "overcome" was developing the chemistry to win organically, but he skipped this development by forming super-teams (talent-based winning).

The problem is that the media has pre-determined narratives - so they pre-determined that every tweet by Durant is "sensitive", while Lebron's aren't because he "overcame" stuff.. So Lebron's petulant response to Barkley's criticism a few years ago was viewed as Lebron "fighting back" instead of extremely sensitive and acting like a different gender.. But his peers know that he's coddled and a baby like Jonas Valanciunus showed

[iamgine]

u ok?

[TheGoatest]

A 10 year-old LeBron would've probably been drafted ahead of Sam Bowie. Others get drafted behind Sam Bowie at 21.

[3ba11]

u ok?


Doing great and pointing out the obvious

Is something wrong with you where you feel the need to deflect?

When and what did Lebron overcome?

Literally nothing.. He's been coddled since he was 10 and throughout the NBA.. No one knocked him when he missed the playoffs with the East all-star center and then he got super-teams, so he overcame literally nothing

Don't take my word for it - his peers like Jonas Valanciunus say the same thing

[AirBonner]

Op having a good weekend time well spent

[bison]

LeCoddle

[ShawkFactory]

He didn’t have a father.

Being coddled by coaches or sponsors who ultimately want something from of you...is not the same thing. Not at all.

[RicardoTubbs]

You do know you are kind of making an argument of how driven Lebron is right?

So he was coddled, given enough money and fame to last him a lifetime before he even stepped foot on the court and STILL had that street hunger in his belly. Even though he could have lived a rich life without even having to lift a finger again, he pushed himself to the limit physically and mentally to be the best player possible and despite the odds he not only lived up to the hype. He EXCEEDED it. Only Lebron (and to a lesser degree Shaq) had this kind of pressure put on his young shoulders and lived up to the hype.

If he was coddled and still maintained that fire in his belly, you are making him look LEGENDARY. Jordan had a chip on his shoulder, because he was cut from the varsity HS team, picked 3rd, didn't have success at first, etc... Lebron didn't need a chip on his shoulder to motivate him. He already had the 🔥 within because he's a beast

[John8204]

3Ball giving off that Scoutmaster thought the other cubscouts were sexier and he was left alone vibe.

[ShawkFactory]

3Ball giving off that Scoutmaster thought the other cubscouts were sexier and he was left alone vibe.

Honestly he’s giving off Papa Doc vibes to me

https://y.yarn.co/390f3be0-73b6-41bc-b2f5-345c238703b9_text.gif

[JohnMax]

3ball doesn't usually go this low. He must've been triggered by this thread (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?506360-One-of-the-last-photos-of-MJ-with-his-dad).

[3ba11]

You do know you are kind of making an argument of how driven Lebron is right?

So he was coddled, given enough money and fame to last him a lifetime before he even stepped foot on the court and STILL had that street hunger in his belly. Even though he could have lived a rich life without even having to lift a finger again,





If he doesn't play, the 100 million contract is voided

So you're just making shit up

It doesn't take drive to play basketball for 100 million when you're 18 - that takes zero drive whatsoever - he was completely coddled and never overcame a single thing

[RRR3]

Apparently, 3ball literally throws tantrums nonstop about LeBron. Even in the middle of grocery shopping! His nurse has to give him a Kobe pacifier to calm him down.

[3ba11]

He didn’t have a father.





Lots of guys don't have fathers, yet they don't get taken in at 10 years old and thoroughly spoiled

Lebron was treated like a precious diamond from 10 years old - many guys with caring Dads would give them up for that and 100 million at 18 years old.,.

Tons of friends and worshipers... His homies wouldn't let him get in fights on the court!!.... So he never had to stand up for himself and that's obvious whenever he gets tested by someone in the NBA - he cowers and hopes someone will break it up (that's what he's used to)

Gtfo.. . He had it so easy and now he gets super-teams and colluding rights in the NBA.. He's a soft joke that never overcame a single thing

[RRR3]

Lots of guys don't have fathers, yet they don't get taken in at 10 years old and thoroughly spoiled

Lebron was treated like a precious diamond from 10 years old - many guys with caring Dads would give them up for that and 100 million at 18 years old.,.

Tons of friends and worshipers... His homies wouldn't let him get in fights on the court!!.... So he never had to stand up for himself and that's obvious whenever he gets tested by someone in the NBA - he cowers and hopes someone will break it up (that's what he's used to)

Gtfo.. . He had it so easy and now he gets super-teams and colluding rights in the NBA.. He's a soft joke that never overcame a single thing
Remember the time you got so worked up about LeBron in a grocery store you had an “accident” and your nurse had to clean it up?

[ShawkFactory]

Lots of guys don't have fathers, yet they don't get taken in at 10 years old and thoroughly spoiled

Lebron was treated like a precious diamond from 10 years old - many guys with caring Dads would give them up for that and 100 million at 18 years old.,.

Tons of friends and worshipers... His homies wouldn't let him get in fights on the court!!.... So he never had to stand up for himself and that's obvious whenever he gets tested by someone in the NBA - he cowers and hopes someone will break it up (that's what he's used to)

Gtfo.. . He had it so easy and now he gets super-teams and colluding rights in the NBA.. He's a soft joke that never overcame a single thing

So? I’d imagine that regardless of your situation that it hurts. People throwing money at you because you make them money doesn’t make up for it.

Particularly is you’re mother is also an addict.

[3ba11]

So? I’d imagine that regardless of your situation that it hurts. People throwing money at you because you make them money doesn’t make up for it.

Particularly is you’re mother is also an addict.


Lebron had it easier than 100% of father-less dudes by being given the best of everything, coddled and protected since he was 10 years old, while also getting 100 million at 18 before dribbling a ball in the NBA

That's much easier than any other father-less dude out there and then he got super-teams when the NBA got too tough

The guy literally never overcame a single thing and was coddled his whole life

[ShawkFactory]

Lebron had it easier than 100% of father-less dudes by being given the best of everything, coddled and protected since he was 10 years old, while also getting 100 million at 18 before dribbling a ball in the NBA

That's much easier than any other father-less dude out there and then he got super-teams when the NBA got too tough

The guy literally never overcame a single thing and was coddled his whole life

You’re a strange man.

[3ba11]

You’re a strange man.


Nowadays, being right and having the facts on your side is "weird" and "strange", while going along with a false, disproven narrative is "right" and "normal"..

So carry on being oblivious and ignorant about stuff.. you're fitting in just fine... :applause:

You guys are the crazy ones for thinking he isn't completely and utterly coddled for his entire life

His peers agree with me (Jonas Valanciunus and many more).. He's a crying baby

[SouBeachTalents]

The irony is this would actually apply to his real favorite player, the son of a wealthy NBA player who grew up in Italy and upscale suburbs, who was drafted by the leagues marquee franchise to play with a top 10 player of all time in his prime for the first 8 years of his career, while having arguably the GOAT coach & GM running the show.

[3ba11]

The irony is this would actually apply to his real favorite player, the son of a wealthy NBA player who grew up in Italy and upscale suburbs, who was drafted by the leagues marquee franchise to play with a top 10 player of all time in his prime for the first 8 years of his career, while having arguably the GOAT coach & GM running the show.


Growing up as a black kid in Italy and having to learn a different language and fit in?

That's harder than anything Lebron has done

Ultimately, they both had it super-easy, but no one ever pretended that Kobe overcame anything like they do with Lebron - BOTH were coddled

[ShawkFactory]

Nowadays, being right and having the facts on your side is "weird" and "strange", while going along with a false, disproven narrative is "right" and "normal"..

So carry on being oblivious and ignorant about stuff.. you're fitting in just fine... :applause:

You guys are the crazy ones for thinking he isn't completely and utterly coddled for his entire life

His peers agree with me (Jonas Valanciunus and many more).. He's a crying baby

Nobody said he wasn’t coddled. It’s the being coddled or taken care of by the right people that matters.

You being strange has more to do with that you’re thinking about what Lebron has or hasn’t overcome on a Saturday than what you’re actually saying. Which is also lacking nuance.

[PP34Deuce]

Any elite professional from the hood is never in the hood long.

Michael jackson left Gary and was protected at 11
Carmelo and KD left the hood and were sent to prep schools
Tupac was told by real street guys to get off the street and was protected going to juliard

Jordan wasn't coddled because he had no expectations. People knew he'd be good but he didn't face the pressures because he was considered a safe prospect..not the messiah he became.

My cousin played div 1 ball and stayed woth the coach at his house. He was an nba prospect at 6 10 and athletic. He got hurt.. went back to the hood and did 8 years in prison.

Lebron had a mindset and discipline to be a mogul. Doesn't happen without Jordan's impact but he also faced social media and other barriers that would destroy most people.

[3ba11]

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he also faced social media and other barriers that would destroy most people.





Social media only helped Lebron

Social media isn't a barrier that destroyed ANYONE

that's a ridiculous and obvious myth

It proves what I'm saying about him - that he never overcame anything

And from Jordan's rookie year, he was compared to Magic/Bird and how he doesn't match up

Unlike Lebron or Magic, Jordan was expected to elevate single-digit rookies and bums into champions... No one cared about Jordan's shitty cast - he was expected to "elevate teammates" like Magic and Bird.. he would've been crucified for teaming up with them

[RRR3]

Remember the time you got so worked up about LeBron in a grocery store you had an “accident” and your nurse had to clean it up?
3ball?

[8Ball]

What did he "overcome"?


He overcame Jordan.

[PP34Deuce]

Social media only helped Lebron

Social media isn't a barrier that destroyed ANYONE

that's a ridiculous and obvious myth

It proves what I'm saying about him - that he never overcame anything

And from Jordan's rookie year, he was compared to Magic/Bird and how he doesn't match up

Unlike Lebron or Magic, Jordan was expected to elevate single-digit rookies and bums into champions... No one cared about Jordan's shitty cast - he was expected to "elevate teammates" like Magic and Bird.. he would've been crucified for teaming up with them

Jordan wasn't expected to elevate teammates. He was expected to do what David Thompson and Julius did which was sell tickets and get people buying shoes. Team work was never Jordan's initial MO.

I could easily break every single point down and hit you with the killshot like Eminem but I feel like you might need to learn like Jay Z and have that ether make your soul burn slow.

Were you hugged as a child?

[3ba11]

Jordan wasn't expected to elevate teammates.





Before Curry's pace and space era made offense easier for everyone from 2015 onwards, Lebron averaged less assists than Jordan for the first 9 years of their playoff careers thru 2014 and 1993, respectively:



Playoffs

85-93' Jordan (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game)..... 35/7/7 on 50%.. 3.3 tov
06-14' Lebron (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game)..... 28/8/6 on 48%.. 3.4 tov


^^^ But that style of revolving the offense around 1 player didn't work, so Jordan decided to lend his skills to a ball movement and high team assist offense.. So he evolved out of ball-centric offenses that revolve around him and Lebron didn't






Jordan wasn't expected to elevate teammates.





If you asked someone in 1987 who was better between Jordan, Magic or Bird, they would say Magic or Bird and the reason is because they "elevated teammates" and Jordan didn't..

No one cared that Jordan had single-digit rookie teammates and would win every year with stars like Kareem or McHale.

And no one cared that Magic and Bird weren't required to grow bum teammates, while Jordan's single-digit teammates grew by leaps and bounds alongside him every year.. So Jordan's off-ball game and high assist numbers were already elevating teammates, but people were being results-oriented and knocking him for not winning titles.

Ultimately, there was tremendous pressure on him to live up to Magic and Bird's standard, while also facing criticism that a scoring champ or shooting guard couldn't win.. He also had the burden of changing the game from a big man's game to a guard's game, which he did spectacularly.

[light]

What did he "overcome"?

Michael Jordan.

[3ba11]

:facepalm:

[3ba11]

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https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-28-2022/dJu6v4.gif


There's no evidence or examples of Lebron being tough or overcoming anything

There's only examples of him cowering away from confrontation and being completely spoiled and coddled in every way.

For example, imagine if Devin Booker decided to consolidate power in the West by teaming up with Jokic and KAT - it wouldn't be allowed and subsequent rings wouldn't be accepted as real rings... Yet everyone allowed it for Lebron and DEFENDS the move - his rings are legit according to his fans.. That's the definition of being coddled.. The NBA literally handed Lebron titles by letting him collude.

[1987_Lakers]

MJ was coddled by the refs, which is why Magic told MJ that to his face during a photo shoot with Bird in the Olympics.

[3ba11]

MJ was coddled by the refs, which is why Magic told MJ that to his face during a photo shoot with Bird in the Olympics.


Lebron is coddled by refs too

The bottom line is that Lebron never overcame anything

He had a protected childhood in the coach's house with the best of everything where he wasn't allowed to fight - always protected... 100 million and Hummers before he ever dribbled a basketball... Super-teams to guarantee chips in the NBA

Otoh, Jordan had to change the game from a big man's game to guard's game... .. Jordan had to overcome the idea that scoring champions and SG's could win titles and carry a franchise... Jordan had to elevate single-digit rookies and bums into viable producers and champions...

Meanwhile, Lebron is gifted super-teams and didn't have to do shit

[light]

A great achievement for LeBron is that he was the first "next Michael Jordan" to actually be the next Michael Jordan. Bron had been pegged for superstardom since he was young and he actually somehow exceeded those impossibly high expectations and left superstardom in the dust to become a colossal-super-megastar.

Aside from dominating the NBA and being the first billionaire player, etc. he's so influential that he also factors in presidential elections and is today considered the celebrity with the most political influence.

Reuters: NBA star LeBron James emerges as potent political force ahead of U.S. election

The Guardian: Conservatives fear LeBron’s influence, not his imaginary calls to violence

Politico: What Democrats Learned From LeBron James

Forbes: LeBron James Is The Most Influential Celebrity This Election Cycle

BET: LeBron James has the most trusted opinion among Black voters.

This is what is truly astounding about LeBron. Maybe we knew he was going to be at least a superstar at basketball but who could've ever imagined him swinging presidential elections? Who could've imagined that a sitting president on the campaign trail would bring him up in a speech as a political opponent?

So LeBron has not only dominated NBA history but he's become a real political force in the United States.

And he's had really intense criticism along the way with people like 3Ball and Skip Bayless dedicating their lives to tearing him down, but he can't be stopped. Superhero type of stuff.

[3ba11]

A great achievement for LeBron is that he was the first "next Michael Jordan" to actually be the next Michael Jordan.





No Kobe was the first and he did it organically

Lebron failed because of poor winning frequency (4/20) and he probably wins 0 without consolidating power from 3 Eastern teams (the "decision")






and Bron had been pegged for superstardom since he was young and he actually somehow exceeded those impossibly high expectations





He went 2/4 with Wade and Bosh

So he didn't even try to achieve anything because he was literally gifted a super-team and then mostly lost in the most embarrassing ways possible

You've simply swallowed all the media lies about him






Woke BS






Lebron supported the accessory to a sexual predator.. Bill Clinton is an extreme sexual predator by today's standards and Hillary worked to suppress those many accusers

Lebron also supports the author of the 94' crime bill that gave cops license to be more aggressive and pursue blacks for petty drug offenses.. This destroyed millions of black lives, while the license of aggression given to the cops killed George Floyd and countless others.

So again, Lebron is literally the biggest fraud there is going right now..

About to break Kareem's record doh!!!... 4 rings and points lead is goat... Oh wait... Kareem's 6 rings and points lead wasn't goat so, it's just more bullshit.. more fake news

[Spurs m8]

Man that Jonas thing was the funniest shit...

Straight up embarrassing for LeCuck...in so many ways.

But that's literally the legacy he will leave

[StrongLurk]

OP why are you so much softer then Lebron?

[Round Mound]

3-ball we all know MJ was tougher than Lebron but lets not forget Lebron grew up without a father. While MJ had a great supportive father and mother. If you wan't to test who faced more adversity and who was tougher then Bird is the thoughest player ever.

[3ba11]

3-ball we all know MJ was tougher than Lebron but lets not forget Lebron grew up without a father.





Like many athletes and people

He gets credit for the fatherless thing while no one else does, as if it isn't a common thing that people overcome without all-time talent

It's just something people brought up because Lebron fans are like "well, maybe he wasn't as good as MJ on the court but he had a tougher path and is a nicer guy".. this is the implication of giving Lebron credit for being "fatherless"






While MJ had a great supportive father





Whooptiwhoop

mj had to GO TO CLASS and earn a college degree while vying for the national title - he didn't get 100 million before graduating high school or start building his franchise at 18..

Be had to climb the ladder from the bottom.. Did you know that MJ was cut as a sophomore in high school and witnessed his best friend drown right in front of him?






Bird is the thoughest player ever.





There's was never any question about that

[RRR3]

Remember the time you got so worked up about LeBron in a grocery store you had an “accident” and your nurse had to clean it up?
3ball?

[1987_Lakers]

mj had to GO TO CLASS and earn a college degree while vying for the national title

He was Worthy's sidekick when they won a national title.

[3ba11]

He was Worthy's sidekick when they won a national title.


Worthy said MJ was the best player all year:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1lxoedv99QQ


Accordingly, MJ was chosen in the clutch to hit the legendary game-winner (top 5 in the history of basketball)

[1987_Lakers]

Worthy said MJ was the best player all year:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1lxoedv99QQ


Accordingly, MJ was chosen in the clutch to hit the legendary game-winner (top 5 in the history of basketball)

Worthy was the leading scorer on that team. Also dropped 28 points in the title game while MJ had like 16. You are big on scoring so by your logic Worthy was better.

[Legend248]

You do know you are kind of making an argument of how driven Lebron is right?

So he was coddled, given enough money and fame to last him a lifetime before he even stepped foot on the court and STILL had that street hunger in his belly. Even though he could have lived a rich life without even having to lift a finger again, he pushed himself to the limit physically and mentally to be the best player possible and despite the odds he not only lived up to the hype. He EXCEEDED it. Only Lebron (and to a lesser degree Shaq) had this kind of pressure put on his young shoulders and lived up to the hype.

If he was coddled and still maintained that fire in his belly, you are making him look LEGENDARY. Jordan had a chip on his shoulder, because he was cut from the varsity HS team, picked 3rd, didn't have success at first, etc... Lebron didn't need a chip on his shoulder to motivate him. He already had the 🔥 within because he's a beast

Hmm how he is a beast when he switches teams when the going gets rough? Has to switch to other players teams? If hes that good people would come to him instead of him switching, now be gone ****** before I end up ****ing u