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AirBonner
08-29-2022, 02:05 PM
https://i.ibb.co/F5Ngxxj/35-B25-DC8-7-F0-C-46-AD-BE85-80-BB772-C3243.jpg (https://ibb.co/jyBg661)

This season is going to be interesting as hell :lol

Kblaze8855
08-29-2022, 02:09 PM
Yea I saw that. He said they were at a dinner at Nash home when he said it.

If he looked into it he’d know Lobe had no case for 05. I don’t think I’d have given it to Shaq if not Nash either. Dirk had Nash and others leave and the team got better. He had a much better mvp case than Kobe would in 05.

John8204
08-29-2022, 02:12 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cc/2e/00/cc2e00a9bb0cf4bf6d90a85e36e8a3ab.gif

But I can't help but feel like their was a reason why Kobe didn't get 3 or 4 MVP's

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xsM3BQHxVKY/hqdefault.jpg

WhiteKyrie
08-29-2022, 02:18 PM
2005 should’ve been Duncan
2006 should’ve been Kobe
2007 should’ve been Nash, tbh
2009 should’ve been Kobe

SouBeachTalents
08-29-2022, 02:23 PM
2005 should’ve been Duncan
2006 should’ve been Kobe
2007 should’ve been Nash, tbh
2009 should’ve been Kobe
Nah. I also don't see Nash's case for '07 winning less games with 2 all-stars than Dirk.

RRR3
08-29-2022, 02:42 PM
2005 should’ve been Duncan
2006 should’ve been Kobe
2007 should’ve been Nash, tbh
2009 should’ve been Kobe
He won less games than LeBron with a much better cast and had massively worse stats how on earth should he have been MVP? Coach at it again with the stupidity.

ShawkFactory
08-29-2022, 03:34 PM
2005 should’ve been Duncan
2006 should’ve been Kobe
2007 should’ve been Nash, tbh
2009 should’ve been Kobe

All of those except 2006 are stupid.

TheGoatest
08-29-2022, 03:35 PM
2009 should’ve been Kobe

https://images4.imagebam.com/24/f7/db/MECHXT8_o.png

:roll:

Kblaze8855
08-29-2022, 03:58 PM
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FultzNationRISE
08-29-2022, 03:58 PM
https://images4.imagebam.com/24/f7/db/MECHXT8_o.png

:roll:


People just... aren't fans of the truth for the most part.

Full Court
08-29-2022, 05:14 PM
How's he gonna do that when Kobe's kinda dead?

fsvr54
08-29-2022, 05:41 PM
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KD is such a bitch

Gohan
08-29-2022, 05:45 PM
Iverson deserved mvp in 2005, one of the biggest screw jobs in nba history. Iverson should sue the nba for that sh1t

ArbitraryWater
08-29-2022, 07:16 PM
2005 should’ve been Duncan
2006 should’ve been Kobe
2007 should’ve been Nash, tbh
2009 should’ve been Kobe

Wtf?


:roll:

Bankaii
08-29-2022, 07:56 PM
Again, NBA players generally don’t know more about hardcore fans when it comes to NBA history.
2005 Kobe deserving MVP might be dumber than any ISH post.

RRR3
08-29-2022, 08:16 PM
Again, NBA players generally don’t know more about hardcore fans when it comes to NBA history.
2005 Kobe deserving MVP might be dumber than any ISH post.
I've seen it said on ISH tbh

SouBeachTalents
08-29-2022, 08:31 PM
I've seen it said on ISH tbh
It's been said outside of ISH too.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DvsWJpDWkAAvGSn.jpg

While obviously not as retarded as '05, claiming Kobe should've won in '03 (they put '02) winning 50 games with Shaq while Duncan won 60 without anyone resembling a star is also extremely dumb. And they're not just arguing he should've won MVP either, they're claiming he was "robbed" all these years :lol

RRR3
08-29-2022, 08:45 PM
It's been said outside of ISH too.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DvsWJpDWkAAvGSn.jpg

While obviously not as retarded as '05, claiming Kobe should've won in '03 (they put '02) winning 50 games with Shaq while Duncan won 60 without anyone resembling a star is also extremely dumb. And they're not just arguing he should've won MVP either, they're claiming he was "robbed" all these years :lol
T-Mac also won only 8 less games with arguably the worst supporting cast of all time in 2003

SouBeachTalents
08-29-2022, 08:53 PM
T-Mac also won only 8 less games with arguably the worst supporting cast of all time in 2003
KG won 51 with Wally Szczerbiak as his 2nd option missing 30 games. Don't get it twisted, Kobe had a great year in '03, but he has legitimately zero argument for winning MVP that season. Ditto '07 when Dirk won 25 more games with Josh Howard as his 2nd option.

JohnMax
08-29-2022, 09:01 PM
https://sideaction.com/nba/kevin-durant-calls-out-olden-polynice-for-repeating-fake-kyrie-irving-steve-nash-story-on-podcast/

Fake story from Balls@ckSports

RRR3
08-29-2022, 09:04 PM
KG won 51 with Wally Szczerbiak as his 2nd option missing 30 games. Don't get it twisted, Kobe had a great year in '03, but he has legitimately zero argument for winning MVP that season. Ditto '07 when Dirk won 25 more games with Josh Howard as his 2nd option.
This is actually insane lol

AlternativeAcc.
08-29-2022, 09:10 PM
This obviously didn't happen, but even if it did in the scenario laid out... kyrie would be smiling while saying it as everyone at the table including Nash laughs and enjoys incredible food in a massive house.

Come on man...

warriorfan
08-29-2022, 09:22 PM
This obviously didn't happen, but even if it did in the scenario laid out... kyrie would be smiling while saying it as everyone at the table including Nash laughs and enjoys incredible food in a massive house.

Come on man...

No. Nash stared down into his plate silently as he got emasculated like he has for his entire tenure with Brooklyn.

Shooter
08-29-2022, 11:36 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cc/2e/00/cc2e00a9bb0cf4bf6d90a85e36e8a3ab.gif

But I can't help but feel like their was a reason why Kobe didn't get 3 or 4 MVP's

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xsM3BQHxVKY/hqdefault.jpg


Could be the 7 seeds and him missing the playoffs....

TheGoatest
08-30-2022, 04:01 AM
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I like how Kobe was the one being robbed in 2005 while averaging 27/6/6 when LeBron averaged 27/7/7 that same season. :roll:

light
08-30-2022, 04:31 AM
That's like Bron saying to Marc Gasol that he has his Defensive Player of the Year award, which is true. But actually LeBron deserved the MVP over Kobe in 2006.


Kobe's 2006: 35.4 pts, 4.5 ast, 5.3 reb. 45% FG. 45 wins. 4th in MVP.

LeBron 2006: 31.4 pts, 6.6 ast, 7.0 reb. 48% FG. 50 wins. 2nd in MVP.

TheGoatest
08-30-2022, 04:36 AM
That's like Bron saying to Marc Gasol that he has his Defensive Player of the Year award, which is true. But actually LeBron deserved the MVP over Kobe in 2006.

The media conspiring against LeBron and embracing Gasol that season was disgusting. :facepalm
Especially considering how LeBron went on to dominate defensively in the playoffs, holding Paul George to 7 points in game 7 of the conference finals and completely neutralizing Tony Parker in games 6 and 7 of the finals.

iamgine
08-30-2022, 04:45 AM
So far we quoted stats but if anyone watched the NBA back then, Nash dominated games and destroyed teams by himself. There's a reason he won a couple MVPs without the stats.

Im Still Ballin
08-30-2022, 05:05 AM
You got 'sacked bro. That offensive line in your brain needs to tighten up!

Real Men Wear Green
08-30-2022, 07:08 AM
So far we quoted stats but if anyone watched the NBA back then, Nash dominated games and destroyed teams by himself. There's a reason he won a couple MVPs without the stats.

One of the main ways he influenced the game was generating points through assists. That is literally not doing it by himself.

Not that I am agreeing with this probably fake quote. Just saying.

WhiteKyrie
08-30-2022, 08:24 AM
That's like Bron saying to Marc Gasol that he has his Defensive Player of the Year award, which is true. But actually LeBron deserved the MVP over Kobe in 2006.


Kobe's 2006: 35.4 pts, 4.5 ast, 5.3 reb. 45% FG. 45 wins. 4th in MVP.

LeBron 2006: 31.4 pts, 6.6 ast, 7.0 reb. 48% FG. 50 wins. 2nd in MVP.

Kobe’s 45 wins in the Western Conference would’ve been like 55 wins in that Eastern Conference.

Idk why only the Bronvestites hated on my post.

It was almost unanimous amongst players themselves that Kobe was the best player in the game from 2006 - 2008. The argument in 2009 was Kobe vs LeBron. Where Nike had the huge hilarious ad campaign and LeBron and Mo Williams failed to get there as favorites.

27/5/5 on 47% leading the Lakers to 65 wins IN THE WEST Conf

Is superior than

28/8/7 on 49% leading the Cavs to 66 wins IN THE LEASTERN Conf

And the total proof of that is the results of both teams performance against the same exact opponent in the Orlando Magic.

I just think that is what’s most fair for all the players involved. Kobe being a 2 to 3 time MVP is where he should’ve been at.

Dirk did not deserve that 2007 MVP, especially getting squashed and boot it in the first round by an eighth seed. It’s literally the worst MVP of all time. 60+ win one seed should not get eliminated that convincingly in the first round.

And Nash in 2007 had a better season than his 2005 and 2006. And if it wasn’t for a bogus suspension, probably would’ve had the suns in the Finals and easily would’ve won the championship over that Cavs team.

Steve at most deserved one MVP, him having two of them and Shaquille O’Neal only having one, Kobe only having one, is blasphemous. But Nash having two is embarrassing on the League, tbh during that time. The voters were showing their bias.

pandiani17
08-30-2022, 09:04 AM
Kobe’s 45 wins in the Western Conference would’ve been like 55 wins in that Eastern Conference.

Idk why only the Bronvestites hated on my post.

It was almost unanimous amongst players themselves that Kobe was the best player in the game from 2006 - 2008. The argument in 2009 was Kobe vs LeBron. Where Nike had the huge hilarious ad campaign and LeBron and Mo Williams failed to get there as favorites.

27/5/5 on 47% leading the Lakers to 65 wins IN THE WEST Conf

Is superior than

28/8/7 on 49% leading the Cavs to 66 wins IN THE LEASTERN Conf

And the total proof of that is the results of both teams performance against the same exact opponent in the Orlando Magic.

I just think that is what’s most fair for all the players involved. Kobe being a 2 to 3 time MVP is where he should’ve been at.

Dirk did not deserve that 2007 MVP, especially getting squashed and boot it in the first round by an eighth seed. It’s literally the worst MVP of all time. 60+ win one seed should not get eliminated that convincingly in the first round.

And Nash in 2007 had a better season than his 2005 and 2006. And if it wasn’t for a bogus suspension, probably would’ve had the suns in the Finals and easily would’ve won the championship over that Cavs team.

Steve at most deserved one MVP, him having two of them and Shaquille O’Neal only having one, Kobe only having one, is blasphemous. But Nash having two is embarrassing on the League, tbh during that time. The voters were showing their bias.

Do you know that it is the Regular Season MVP? Post-season performances don't have any effect on it, only the 82 games of the RS. I am not a stan of Dirk, but yes, he deserved that MVP because he was the best player in the team with the best record (or the second best).

WhiteKyrie
08-30-2022, 09:34 AM
Do you know that it is the Regular Season MVP? Post-season performances don't have any effect on it, only the 82 games of the RS. I am not a stan of Dirk, but yes, he deserved that MVP because he was the best player in the team with the best record (or the second best).
Obviously dumb ass, oh like 2012? Or 2014? Or 2017? Or 2021? Or 2022?

RRR3
08-30-2022, 09:43 AM
Kobe’s 45 wins in the Western Conference would’ve been like 55 wins in that Eastern Conference.

Idk why only the Bronvestites hated on my post.

It was almost unanimous amongst players themselves that Kobe was the best player in the game from 2006 - 2008. The argument in 2009 was Kobe vs LeBron. Where Nike had the huge hilarious ad campaign and LeBron and Mo Williams failed to get there as favorites.

27/5/5 on 47% leading the Lakers to 65 wins IN THE WEST Conf

Is superior than

28/8/7 on 49% leading the Cavs to 66 wins IN THE LEASTERN Conf

And the total proof of that is the results of both teams performance against the same exact opponent in the Orlando Magic.

I just think that is what’s most fair for all the players involved. Kobe being a 2 to 3 time MVP is where he should’ve been at.

Dirk did not deserve that 2007 MVP, especially getting squashed and boot it in the first round by an eighth seed. It’s literally the worst MVP of all time. 60+ win one seed should not get eliminated that convincingly in the first round.

And Nash in 2007 had a better season than his 2005 and 2006. And if it wasn’t for a bogus suspension, probably would’ve had the suns in the Finals and easily would’ve won the championship over that Cavs team.

Steve at most deserved one MVP, him having two of them and Shaquille O’Neal only having one, Kobe only having one, is blasphemous. But Nash having two is embarrassing on the League, tbh during that time. The voters were showing their bias.
The West had a winning record against the East that year. The Cavs did better against the West as well. You’re not very smart. Poooooor coach. LeBron has ruined your life :yaohappy:

Lol at LeBron “failing” in 2009. He averaged almost 40 PPG against the Magic :lol

ShawkFactory
08-30-2022, 09:59 AM
Kobe’s 45 wins in the Western Conference would’ve been like 55 wins in that Eastern Conference.

Idk why only the Bronvestites hated on my post.

It was almost unanimous amongst players themselves that Kobe was the best player in the game from 2006 - 2008. The argument in 2009 was Kobe vs LeBron. Where Nike had the huge hilarious ad campaign and LeBron and Mo Williams failed to get there as favorites.

27/5/5 on 47% leading the Lakers to 65 wins IN THE WEST Conf

Is superior than

28/8/7 on 49% leading the Cavs to 66 wins IN THE LEASTERN Conf

And the total proof of that is the results of both teams performance against the same exact opponent in the Orlando Magic.

I just think that is what’s most fair for all the players involved. Kobe being a 2 to 3 time MVP is where he should’ve been at.

Dirk did not deserve that 2007 MVP, especially getting squashed and boot it in the first round by an eighth seed. It’s literally the worst MVP of all time. 60+ win one seed should not get eliminated that convincingly in the first round.

And Nash in 2007 had a better season than his 2005 and 2006. And if it wasn’t for a bogus suspension, probably would’ve had the suns in the Finals and easily would’ve won the championship over that Cavs team.

Steve at most deserved one MVP, him having two of them and Shaquille O’Neal only having one, Kobe only having one, is blasphemous. But Nash having two is embarrassing on the League, tbh during that time. The voters were showing their bias.

Why’d you type this much to troll and be stupid? Keep it short if you’re going to do that.

1987_Lakers
08-30-2022, 10:01 AM
WhiteKyrie isn't very bright. In another thread he said the '07 Heat would have made the Finals if Wade never got injured, despite them being 24-26 with Wade before he got injured.

RRR3
08-30-2022, 10:04 AM
WhiteKyrie isn't very bright. In another thread he said the '07 Heat would have made the Finals if Wade never got injured, despite them being 24-26 with Wade before he got injured.
It’s Coach aka SamuraiSwish. He went completely insane after LeBron won number 4 in 2020. He can’t stand the fact that his idol isn’t unanimous GOAT anymore.

SouBeachTalents
08-30-2022, 10:17 AM
It was almost unanimous amongst players themselves that Kobe was the best player in the game from 2006 - 2008.
Among players that may very well be true, and if you're going based off that 3 year window, I'd agree, Kobe was the best player during that timeframe. But year by year? With Wade having a monster Finals, Duncan leading the Spurs to another title, and CP3 getting nearly equal support for MVP in '08? Nah. The notion that Kobe was ever head and shoulders above the competition like he was Jordan/LeBron/Shaq is a complete myth. Best player in the league? Valid argument. In a tier of his own? Just never the case.


27/5/5 on 47% leading the Lakers to 65 wins IN THE WEST Conf

Is superior than

28/8/7 on 49% leading the Cavs to 66 wins IN THE LEASTERN Conf
So having literally worse production across the board AND winning less games with a much more talented team is now considered superior? Do you really not understand how dumb that sounds :lol And '09 was a rare season where the East had a winning record against the West, so while overall the West was still better, it wasn't as decisive as it had regularly been in the 2000's. The East had damn near 3 60 win teams that year, while no one besides the Lakers won 55 games in the West.


And the total proof of that is the results of both teams performance against the same exact opponent in the Orlando Magic.
I agree, the results of LeBron significantly outproducing Kobe, while Gasol outplayed Dwight in the Finals is proof which player had the better supporting cast, and why LeBron should've been MVP winning more games with a worse team. Good point.


Dirk did not deserve that 2007 MVP, especially getting squashed and boot it in the first round by an eighth seed. It’s literally the worst MVP of all time. 60+ win one seed should not get eliminated that convincingly in the first round.

And Nash in 2007 had a better season than his 2005 and 2006. And if it wasn’t for a bogus suspension, probably would’ve had the suns in the Finals and easily would’ve won the championship over that Cavs team.
You really don't seem able to grasp the idea that MVP is a regular season award. Nobody on earth would argue Curry shouldn't have been MVP in 2016 despite his horrific Finals, the same logic applies to '07 and any other MVP selection. Dirk won 67 games without another top 20-25 player on the team, while Nash won 6 less games with two all-star players, both of whom were clearly better than Josh Howard. Nash has frankly no argument for MVP over Dirk in '07 based off regular season results, which to emphasize again is what the MVP is decided on.

RRR3
08-30-2022, 10:26 AM
Coach getting destroyed in this thread :lol

TheGoatest
08-30-2022, 01:29 PM
27/5/5 on 47% leading the Lakers to 65 wins IN THE WEST Conf

Is superior than

28/8/7 on 49% leading the Cavs to 66 wins IN THE LEASTERN Conf


Lakers conference W/L record splits that season:
Vs East: 21-9
Vs West: 44-8

Cavs conference W/L record splits that season:
Vs East: 40-12
Vs West: 26-4

LeBron might've beaten the Bulls' 72-10 record had he played in the west that season. :roll:

iamgine
08-30-2022, 01:41 PM
One of the main ways he influenced the game was generating points through assists. That is literally not doing it by himself.

Not that I am agreeing with this probably fake quote. Just saying.

It's a figure of speech. No one ever scored all the points either.

hold this L
08-30-2022, 02:18 PM
Lebron winning MVP in 2009 is one of the easiest MVP decisions of the century. Lebron was better than Kobe, got 1 more win with a significantly worse team. If Kobe took the team to 68-70 wins, he'd likely have won it all. But he didn't. Someone having this terrible of a take and having a pic of Kyrie isn't that surprising. :lol

RRR3
08-30-2022, 02:30 PM
Lebron winning MVP in 2009 is one of the easiest MVP decisions of the century. Lebron was better than Kobe, got 1 more win with a significantly worse team. If Kobe took the team to 68-70 wins, he'd likely have won it all. But he didn't. Someone having this terrible of a take and having a pic of Kyrie isn't that surprising. :lol
He won the MVP voting very easily and idiots now claim it was debatable lol. People just hate LeBron but that doesn’t change what happened that year. Kobe shouldn’t have even been second tbh.

FilmyCogTurner
08-30-2022, 06:16 PM
No. Nash stared down into his plate silently as he got emasculated like he has for his entire tenure with Brooklyn.

And later that evening Jason Richardson walked into the room to serve everyone desert.

kawhileonard2
08-30-2022, 11:24 PM
2005 and 2006 is up in the air.