We need common sense knife laws

[BigKobeFan]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/canadian-police-issue-alert-apparent-213755091.html

10 Dead 15 wounded

[theman93]

Wow ban all assault knives immediately.

[Patrick Chewing]

Why does one really need a knife??

[ShawkFactory]

Wow ban all assault knives immediately.

Pretty sure that more than 10 would be dead if they had the rifles you’re referring too.

Enjoy the the gotcha moment though, I’m sure it’s satisfying.

[Patrick Chewing]

Pretty sure that more than 10 would be dead if they had the rifles you’re referring too.

Enjoy the the gotcha moment though, I’m sure it’s satisfying.

Murder is murder. What's the difference?

[warriorfan]

Pretty sure that more than 10 would be dead if they had the rifles you’re referring too.

Enjoy the the gotcha moment though, I’m sure it’s satisfying.

If we banned knives the deaths would be less tho.

We should do it.

[BigKobeFan]

Pretty sure that more than 10 would be dead if they had the rifles you’re referring too.

Enjoy the the gotcha moment though, I’m sure it’s satisfying.

I remember a 75 year old store clerk owner who defended himself with a shot gun against a guy with a rifle. He lived and the perp died i believe at the hospital. The perp wasnt able to kill more than 0

[ShawkFactory]

If we banned knives the deaths would be less tho.

We should do it.

How would you cook then? Doordash from here on out?

[ShawkFactory]

Murder is murder. What's the difference?

What?

[Patrick Chewing]

What?

What do you mean what?

You're trying to make a negative case against guns here despite no gun being used. You're trying to insinuate that more people may have died because of the relative ease of firing a gun versus up front and personal knife contact. But....all that is, is another disingenuous argument against guns because people like you are solely focusing on the number of victims and not focusing on the motives of the killer and why they kill in the first place and what can be done to stop people from getting to that point of committing murder.

[Axe]

Wow ban all assault knives immediately.
Would you say the same thing if they used guns instead, coach?

[Axe]

How would you cook then? Doordash from here on out?
:roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

Would you say the same thing if they used guns instead, coach?

:facepalm

[ShawkFactory]

What do you mean what?

You're trying to make a negative case against guns here despite no gun being used. You're trying to insinuate that more people may have died because of the relative ease of firing a gun versus up front and personal knife contact. But....all that is, is another disingenuous argument against guns because people like you are solely focusing on the number of victims and not focusing on the motives of the killer and why they kill in the first place and what can be done to stop people from getting to that point of committing murder.

Lol you sure about that?

I agree that murder is murder. I didn’t make the thread.

You can bludgeon someone with a Bible and it’s the same.

[baudkarma]

Only 10 dead? And two attackers? C'mon Canada, step your game up! Here in the USofA, we're used to mass killings claiming 30-40-50 lives or even more. And we have them regularly, not once every couple of years. Tomorrow is Labor Day here, expect at least half-a-dozen lives murdered, at least.

So, backing off from the /sarc, how many lives would these monsters have claimed if they had been able to put their hands on pistols? Semi-auto weapons? The Uvalde guy managed to kill how many kids? Imagine if he was stuck with a knife instead of a semi-auto.

[Off the Court]

Only 10 dead? And two attackers? C'mon Canada, step your game up! Here in the USofA, we're used to mass killings claiming 30-40-50 lives or even more. And we have them regularly, not once every couple of years. Tomorrow is Labor Day here, expect at least half-a-dozen lives murdered, at least.

So, backing off from the /sarc, how many lives would these monsters have claimed if they had been able to put their hands on pistols? Semi-auto weapons? The Uvalde guy managed to kill how many kids? Imagine if he was stuck with a knife instead of a semi-auto.
Yeah he wouldn't have been able to kill nearly as many and would have had to physically chase kids around and most would have escaped. They wouldn't have just sat there watching stabbings.

People drown and the some of the low-IQ conservatives come in with the "durr we need common sense water laws, make water illegal!"

It's always the dumbest f@#king argument and obviously these two would have killed dozens more if they used AR-15s instead of knives.

[FultzNationRISE]

Yeah he wouldn't have been able to kill nearly as many and would have had to physically chase kids around and most would have escaped. They wouldn't have just sat there watching stabbings.

People drown and the some of the low-IQ conservatives come in with the "durr we need common sense water laws, make water illegal!"

It's always the dumbest f@#king argument and obviously these two would have killed dozens more if they used AR-15s instead of knives.

What happened to “if it saves just one life it’s worth it?” :lol

Isnt that what you and the girls always say when it’s conducive to getting your own political way?

Now 10 lives is no big deal?

[Patrick Chewing]

Yeah he wouldn't have been able to kill nearly as many and would have had to physically chase kids around and most would have escaped. They wouldn't have just sat there watching stabbings.

People drown and the some of the low-IQ conservatives come in with the "durr we need common sense water laws, make water illegal!"

It's always the dumbest f@#king argument and obviously these two would have killed dozens more if they used AR-15s instead of knives.

Eliminating guns or more especially the AR-15 does not eliminate one's propensity to kill. If someone is deranged enough to want to kill, they will find a way.

The Liberal "solution" of banning the AR-15 is not because they care about the loss of life, it's because it's an attack on Conservatives and the Constitution, their mortal enemy.

[ShawkFactory]

Eliminating guns or more especially the AR-15 does not eliminate one's propensity to kill. If someone is deranged enough to want to kill, they will find a way.

The Liberal "solution" of banning the AR-15 is not because they care about the loss of life, it's because it's an attack on Conservatives and the Constitution, their mortal enemy.

To be clear...AR-15s did not exist when the Constitution was written.

You are probably correct that if someone is deranged enough to kill then they probably will anyway. Regardless of its with a gun, knife, pen, or skillet.

But I think it’s pretty clear that a mentally ill person wielding an AR-15 is far more dangerous than pretty much anything else you can give them. I don’t even care about the political aspect. Not even slightly. It’s just truly a scary thing to me the relative ease that a bullied 18 year old can obtain weapons like this. And I don’t think there are going to be less people like this going forward.

[Patrick Chewing]

To be clear...AR-15s did not exist when the Constitution was written.

You are probably correct that if someone is deranged enough to kill then they probably will anyway. Regardless of its with a gun, knife, pen, or skillet.

But I think it’s pretty clear that a mentally ill person wielding an AR-15 is far more dangerous than pretty much anything else you can give them. I don’t even care about the political aspect. Not even slightly. It’s just truly a scary thing to me the relative ease that a bullied 18 year old can obtain weapons like this. And I don’t think there are going to be less people like this going forward.

It's the same argument over and over again and we just go in circles. The AR-15 is owned by a huge population in this country. These owners aren't killing people senselessly with it on a daily basis. But to eliminate this weapon because a handful of mentally ill people use it to kill is completely unfair for those who follow the rules and aren't mentally unstable.

A 9mm handgun can hold 17 rounds. If I place a 9mm handgun in each hand, I now have a total of 34 rounds at my disposal. That's more rounds than any AR-15 out there.

If our government truly wanted to end gun violence, then they would focus their resources on illegal guns that enter our inner city neighborhoods on a daily basis and focus on mental health and rehabilitation and not on going after past Presidents or people from opposing political parties.

Why does one kill? Why does one have the urge to kill? What leads up to it? How can we change the perspective and emotional well-being of the person who is thinking about killing?

Is there anyone out there asking these questions??

[ShawkFactory]

But to eliminate this weapon

I didn't even say that though. All I said was that a mentally ill person having relatively easy access to weapons like this is a frightening thing. Which I think we can all agree is true. I'm not saying the solution is to send government officials to every AR-15 owners house and collect. I don't even know what the solution is, but the intense politicization of it will insure that we never come close to one.


Why does one kill? Why does one have the urge to kill? What leads up to it? How can we change the perspective and emotional well-being of the person who is thinking about killing?

Is there anyone out there asking these questions??

Yes, people have been asking these questions for hundreds of years. There are even well-paid professionals trained to attempt to help. Just because you don't see it in political discourse doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I think we're just going to have to accept mental illness as an inevitability.

[Chick Stern]

I remember a 75 year old store clerk owner who defended himself with a shot gun against a guy with a rifle. He lived and the perp died i believe at the hospital. The perp wasnt able to kill more than 0

He is 80, the perp is alive and in custody.

[bladefd]

To be clear...AR-15s did not exist when the Constitution was written.

You are probably correct that if someone is deranged enough to kill then they probably will anyway. Regardless of its with a gun, knife, pen, or skillet.

But I think it’s pretty clear that a mentally ill person wielding an AR-15 is far more dangerous than pretty much anything else you can give them. I don’t even care about the political aspect. Not even slightly. It’s just truly a scary thing to me the relative ease that a bullied 18 year old can obtain weapons like this. And I don’t think there are going to be less people like this going forward.

The constitution was written with the muskets in mind. Each musket takes 30 seconds to reload in an experienced soldier, and they can get off 1 shot. So we are looking at 1 shot per minute in someone experienced. Nobody even thought of a small handheld semi-automatic rifle that can fire 30 rounds in 10-15 seconds back in the 1770s. Even the concept of quick changing the magazine that fast was alien in the world the constitution was written in.

[diamenz]

What happened to “if it saves just one life it’s worth it?” :lol

Isnt that what you and the girls always say when it’s conducive to getting your own political way?

Now 10 lives is no big deal?

BRO.

stop talking. (https://www.patreon.com/TofP)

[Lakers Legend#32]

Oh look, the gun nuts are making an attempt at irony.:oldlol:

[Off the Court]

What happened to “if it saves just one life it’s worth it?” :lol

Isnt that what you and the girls always say when it’s conducive to getting your own political way?

Now 10 lives is no big deal?
I don't say that and I don't recall others saying that. Do you think that banning knives is even a f@#king realistic option? We have to exit reality and go to dingbat land just to have this retarded comparison. Aside from the reality that knives are million times less lethal than AR15s they are also just impossible to ban. Even people in prison can make knives.

And even in dingbat land where knives are just as deadly as AR15s, that would mean no one needs an AR15, because they can just use a knife, which is just as deadly.

[theman93]

The constitution was written with the muskets in mind. Each musket takes 30 seconds to reload in an experienced soldier, and they can get off 1 shot. So we are looking at 1 shot per minute in someone experienced. Nobody even thought of a small handheld semi-automatic rifle that can fire 30 rounds in 10-15 seconds back in the 1770s. Even the concept of quick changing the magazine that fast was alien in the world the constitution was written in.

The Puckle Gun, Kalthoff Repeater, and Cookson Repeater all say hi.

[BigKobeFan]

The constitution was written with the muskets in mind. Each musket takes 30 seconds to reload in an experienced soldier, and they can get off 1 shot. So we are looking at 1 shot per minute in someone experienced. Nobody even thought of a small handheld semi-automatic rifle that can fire 30 rounds in 10-15 seconds back in the 1770s. Even the concept of quick changing the magazine that fast was alien in the world the constitution was written in.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms.

It was meant to defend a free country. not only limited to a musket. Technically, back then, the government used muskets against citizens, we should technically be allowed to use F35s and HIMARS against them to defend the free state, but we backed off on that one already. So this musket analogy makes no sense.

[FultzNationRISE]

I don't say that and I don't recall others saying that. Do you think that banning knives is even a f@#king realistic option? We have to exit reality and go to dingbat land just to have this retarded comparison. Aside from the reality that knives are million times less lethal than AR15s they are also just impossible to ban. Even people in prison can make knives.

And even in dingbat land where knives are just as deadly as AR15s, that would mean no one needs an AR15, because they can just use a knife, which is just as deadly.


How realistic would you have considered it in 2019 to shut down the global economy and push an experimental vax on the whole world in order to “save just one life” (the slogan justifying any measure taken) from a flu virus?

Remember, if it saves just one life it’s worth it to go a hundred times too far. Thats the logic you supported previously. It’s your precedent.

How badly do we really need knives? You cant eat with your hands, a fork, and a spoon? You cant cut meat with poultry sheers?

There is absolutely no need for big ass knives to be existing when 10 people just DIED to them.

Remember:

“If it saves ANY lives, we must ban knives...”

[Patrick Chewing]

The most hilarious thing about this thread is that Off The Court is taking it seriously. :oldlol:

[BigKobeFan]

The most hilarious thing about this thread is that Off The Court is taking it seriously. :oldlol:

He completely missed the joke

[warriorfan]

How realistic would you have considered it in 2019 to shut down the global economy and push an experimental vax on the whole world in order to “save just one life” (the slogan justifying any measure taken) from a flu virus?

Remember, if it saves just one life it’s worth it to go a hundred times too far. Thats the logic you supported previously. It’s your precedent.

How badly do we really need knives? You cant eat with your hands, a fork, and a spoon? You cant cut meat with poultry sheers?

There is absolutely no need for big ass knives to be existing when 10 people just DIED to them.

Remember:

“If it saves ANY lives, we must ban knives...”

Exactly. That same energy only gets applied to guns for some reason.


And what is also amusing is how the usual suspects immediately throw their hands up and go “well it’s impossible to ban knives! Why bother!?” When realistically banning guns is just about the same in feasibility. Do they understand how many firearms are circulating around in the United States? How do they go about magically making them all disappear? Felons can’t buy guns from a store, a gun show, anywhere legally…..Yet how do all these felons easily get another gun? Price might go up slightly but what does that mean? If a person is really motivated then they will have to save up for an extra month or two before they get their gun and do what they want? It’s a pipe dream.

We already have strict gun control regarding convicted felons…….Does that stop them from procuring firearms? Not really. I don’t see how banning the sale of all new guns will change anything.

[Patrick Chewing]

He completely missed the joke

He's literally shaking right now worried that they'll come for his butter knives.

[Off the Court]

He completely missed the joke
You're not making a joke. You made this as to say the idea of banning AR15s wouldn't matter because these 2 dudes stabbed 10 people to death.

Well the direct comparison to AR15s is a f@#king joke. It's just not the joke you intended.

[Off the Court]

You guys think the Uvalde SWAT would have been waiting outside for hours if dude had a knife?

[Patrick Chewing]

You guys think the Uvalde SWAT would have been waiting outside for hours if dude had a knife?

:roll:

[FultzNationRISE]

You guys think the Uvalde SWAT would have been waiting outside for hours if dude had a knife?

Im not making any claims or taking any positions here. I’m simply asking what happened to your unconditional support for any measure that saves just ONE life??

:confusedshrug:

[Off the Court]

Im not making any claims or taking any positions here. I’m simply asking what happened to your unconditional support for any measure that saves just ONE life??

:confusedshrug:
The support for the fake stance I never had because that's all you got? That support?

Have you recovered from the Chris Rock slap yet?

[warriorfan]

Off the hinge needs to get his estrogen levels checked. This isn’t normal.

[FultzNationRISE]

BRO.

stop talking. (https://www.patreon.com/TofP)


Frivolous wedge issues like these are made for recreational public shit slinging. That aint what we’re talking about at Patreon.

We’re talkin about the important stuff that the general public doesnt get told and therefore doesnt understand and cant use to their benefit.

Which is what makes it so valuable.

[Patrick Chewing]

Off the hinge needs to get his estrogen levels checked. This isn’t normal.


"How can these guys be comparing knives to guns!!! This makes me so mad!!!"


https://c.tenor.com/crFtpt7vw0oAAAAC/rage-computer.gif


:oldlol:

[Axe]

Guns are actually quite useful if you feel the need to fend off bullies plowing through your ashy neighborhood.

[Gohan]

As long as they dont ban my right hand im good

[Off the Court]

Ah good. From my posts in here Chewing now understands that the comparison is a joke. I knew I was doing this for a good reason. It will probably be more difficult for warriorfan to understand that guns and knives are different, because ya know, all the years of very heavy and intense cocaine abuse :( But don't worry warrior, I won't give up on you.

[Patrick Chewing]

Ah good. From my posts in here Chewing now understands that the comparison is a joke. I knew I was doing this for a good reason. It will probably be more difficult for warriorfan to understand that guns and knives are different, because ya know, all the years of very heavy and intense cocaine abuse :( But don't worry warrior, I won't give up on you.

The only joke is how angry and triggered you got.

And it exposes how you people only care about guns and not about murder in general. You will accept knife murders so long as they don't outnumber gun murders. Cause then you'll really have to worry if they'll come for your knives.

[Lakers Legend#32]

And it exposes how you people only care about guns and not about murder in general. You will accept knife murders so long as they don't outnumber gun murders. Cause then you'll really have to worry if they'll come for your knives.

And yet Poopsie openly calls for the murder of those who disagree with him.

[Off the Court]

The only joke is how angry and triggered you got.

And it exposes how you people only care about guns and not about murder in general. You will accept knife murders so long as they don't outnumber gun murders. Cause then you'll really have to worry if they'll come for your knives.

lol what? :lol Just when I thought maybe you got it. :facepalm Oh well I won't give up on you either mate.

And again you replied in lightning fast speed exposing that you just sit in here and refresh the screen all day. Give it a little time. Consider your reply. Then you won't just blurt out dumb shit like "they'll come for your knives!!!!"

[Patrick Chewing]

lol what? :lol Just when I thought maybe you got it. :facepalm Oh well I won't give up on you either mate.

And again you replied in lightning fast speed exposing that you just sit in here and refresh the screen all day. Give it a little time. Consider your reply. Then you won't just blurt out dumb shit like "they'll come for your knives!!!!"

I think you have reading comprehension problems. Either that, or when you're cornered and exposed for looking like a fool, you double back and accuse us of what's happening to you. Does that really work? Those mental gymnastics probably only work in your inner circle which isn't that many people. Might even include some of your cats too who just nod their head and with each nod, it makes you feel like a God.

[Axe]

The only joke is how angry and triggered you got.

And it exposes how you people only care about guns and not about murder in general. You will accept knife murders so long as they don't outnumber gun murders. Cause then you'll really have to worry if they'll come for your knives.
Execute all trannies!

[theman93]

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/fbi-data-shows-over-2-5x-people-were-killed-by-knives-than-rifles-in-2020/


FBI data shows nearly 3x as many people were killed by knives than rifles of any kind in 2020

Why have none of the lefties screamed for banning knives when they are the weapon of choice in significantly more murders?

[Patrick Chewing]

Execute all trannies!

Woah woah where you do you think you are? Saudi Arabia? Pakistan??

[BigKobeFan]

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/fbi-data-shows-over-2-5x-people-were-killed-by-knives-than-rifles-in-2020/



Why have none of the lefties screamed for banning knives when they are the weapon of choice in significantly more murders?

Its those damn serrations

[theman93]

Its those damn serrations

Are mass murders (which btw, handguns are the most common weapon type used in mass shootings in the United States) by rifles the only types of murders they care about? It seems so.

[Bill Gates]

Are mass murders (which btw, handguns are the most common weapon type used in mass shootings in the United States) by rifles the only types of murders they care about? It seems so.

Assault rifles because unlike knives which are a tool used regularly by every human they have no practical use. How would we cook food without knives? Handguns are at least practical for home defense. Assault rifles are awful for home defense and have no practical use other than mowing down crowds. So yeah society would be just fine without them.

I can't tell if you're really that dumb or just playing dumb for political reasons but that's the reason.

[BigKobeFan]

Assault rifles because unlike knives which are a tool used regularly by every human they have no practical use. How would we cook food without knives? Handguns are at least practical for home defense. Assault rifles are awful for home defense and have no practical use other than mowing down crowds. So yeah society would be just fine without them.

I can't tell if you're really that dumb or just playing dumb for political reasons but that's the reason.
What are these assault rifles you are talking about

[theman93]

Assault rifles because unlike knives which are a tool used regularly by every human they have no practical use. How would we cook food without knives? Handguns are at least practical for home defense. Assault rifles are awful for home defense and have no practical use other than mowing down crowds. So yeah society would be just fine without them.

I can't tell if you're really that dumb or just playing dumb for political reasons but that's the reason.

Why don't you want to ban hand guns? They're used in significantly more mass shootings.

You can cook without a knife just fine btw.

[theman93]

What are these assault rifles you are talking about

Assault rifles are a lot like assault knives :roll:

[BigKobeFan]

Why don't you want to ban hand guns? They're used in significantly more mass shootings.

You can cook without a knife just fine btw.

Those plastic knives you get at take out can cut open a steak just fine.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Woah woah where you do you think you are? Saudi Arabia? Pakistan??

Poopsie's IHS posts.

[Axe]

Woah woah where you do you think you are? Saudi Arabia? Pakistan??
Shoot all anti-abortions! :rant

[Lakers Legend#32]

Woah woah where you do you think you are? Saudi Arabia? Pakistan??

Inside Poopsie's head.