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coastalmarker99
09-25-2022, 05:55 PM
You should know better than anyone that Wilt was a stat whore, I know you are a big Wilt fan so I can see you having trouble being unbiased with this subject, but come on bro.
This is what Bill Libby wrote on this topic in his 1977 biography on Wilt called ‘Goliath’:
“A couple of times, he went to a teammate with a hot hand and told him he was going to give him the ball exclusively because the other guys were wasting his passes and he wouldn’t win the assists title that way.”
https://thesportsrush.com/nba-news-wilt-chamberlain-wouldnt-pass-to-players-who-wasted-his-time-goliath-writer-claimed-warriors-legend-would-only-pass-to-players-with-a-hot-hand-for-assist/
In the final 2 months of the season, the team went 24-5 while Wilt was averaging 11 APG--him passing even more was leading to wins.
1987_Lakers
09-25-2022, 06:00 PM
In the final 2 months of the season, the team went 24-5 while Wilt was averaging 11 APG--him passing even more was leading to wins.
And credit to him, he obviously had a positive impact on that team. But that wasn't my point, he for sure was gunning for the assist title and the offense still looked pretty good without him in 1969, where the Sixers missed Wilt the most was on the defensive end.
HoopsNY
09-25-2022, 06:02 PM
Along with my '69 Lakers & Sixers examples, when Wilt first joined the Warriors in his rookie year and dropped 38 ppg, he only improved their offense by 1 point per 100 possessions according to Ben Taylor. For constantly being labeled as the greatest or top 3 offensive GOAT, there is tons of data that says his offensive impact wasn't as great as people think.
We see teams fall apart offensively when MJ & LeBron leave, MJ for '94 and LeBron when he left the Cavs & Miami, the same can't be said about Wilt.
You also saw a huge improvement in the Bulls offense during MJ's rookie year, went from #22 in 1984 to #11 in 1985, Wilt joins the Warriors and they still rank near the bottom on the offensive end, and only see a tiny improvement. I'm not saying Wilt was a negative on the offensive end, because there is some data that says he was a plus, like the example you posted, but I expect much more from a player that is constantly labeled the offensive GOAT for big man.
Yea, fair points. I'd say they improved, though not greatly in his rookie year. The overall seems to be that Wilt was a positive where his teams were concerned beyond just scoring where it came to offense. I think the data in '65 says a lot as does the data in '70.
Was he as impactful offensively as some other ATGs? Maybe not. But the bar is already set high for all the greats.
HoopsNY
09-25-2022, 06:02 PM
The 76ers were incredibly successful with Wilt being a playmaker.
76er's record when Wilt has 7+ assists:
1965: 2-0
1966: 19-3
Total: 21-3
1967: 46-2
Total: 67-5
1968: 40-11
Total: 107-16
Playoffs: 15-5
The narrative of Wilt being a detrimental assist chaser is dumb as the 76ers would have easily won back-to-back titles if not for injuries
That's a pretty crazy statistic.
Jasper
09-25-2022, 06:56 PM
love this thread ... who is the better posters on ISH // So guys talk bball to hone in who is best lmfao
Smook A.
09-25-2022, 07:50 PM
You can't really have a positive thread once Spurs masturb8 decides to join
You can't really have a positive thread once Spurs masturb8 decides to join
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1987_Lakers
09-25-2022, 08:01 PM
You can't really have a positive thread once Spurs masturb8 decides to join
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Full Court
09-25-2022, 08:24 PM
love this thread ... who is the better posters on ISH // So guys talk bball to hone in who is best lmfao
What this thread has clearly shown is that the smartest poster is certainly NOT RRR3. :lol
Spurs m8
09-25-2022, 11:36 PM
You can't really have a positive thread once Spurs masturb8 decides to join
Fuming I call out morons
You can't really have a positive thread once Spurs masturb8 decides to join
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Cold soul
09-27-2022, 02:44 PM
You can't really have a positive thread once Spurs masturb8 decides to join
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colts19
09-27-2022, 03:22 PM
3-ball is a very good poster i just don't agree with him regarding Pippen and that Jordan was a 1 man team. My job in the site is done regarding how underrated Barkley was.
I always like your post. I agree that Barkley was very underrated. I also agree that 3ball should quit trying to discredit Pippen. Jordan never would have won 6 championships without him. Also your one of the few that still appreciate how good Bird was.
So I pick Round Mound as one of the best posters.
WADE MONEY
09-27-2022, 03:55 PM
Haven't posted in like 10 years, but off the top of my head, kblaze is pretty smart. Not sure if he still posts around here anymore.
I also remember people like "Tmacs one good eye", eliteballer, BOSH MONEY, JEFFERSON MONEY, LEBRON MONEY, Wogitalia, Hotsizzle, ev08, Return of GOBB, though I don't remember how smart they were
Full Court
09-27-2022, 07:04 PM
I always like your post. I agree that Barkley was very underrated. I also agree that 3ball should quit trying to discredit Pippen. Jordan never would have won 6 championships without him. Also your one of the few that still appreciate how good Bird was.
So I pick Round Mound as one of the best posters.
I can go along with this. I agree with everything you said.
Round Mound
09-27-2022, 11:20 PM
I always like your post. I agree that Barkley was very underrated. I also agree that 3ball should quit trying to discredit Pippen. Jordan never would have won 6 championships without him. Also your one of the few that still appreciate how good Bird was.
So I pick Round Mound as one of the best posters.
Thanks :cheers:
Some Lebron fans think longevity determines how good you are. Longevity is not a skill or has any impact IMO. In the same way Lebron is not better than MJ cause of longevity, same thing goes for the Barkley vs Malone comparisson. Barkley was clearly better in his prime.
He's obviously a casual, bro. Probably never even watched a game. He has two alts (Balless789 and cvck sucker m8). Just put them on ignore.
:lol
72-10
10-12-2022, 11:56 PM
You call that a smart post?
A guy who has probably played the most postseason games in NBA history has the most missed shots and turnovers because he has a high usage? What a shocker.
He's one of the most efficient players in terms of fg%, someone pointing out he has the most missed shots to dispute that fact is flat out retarded. It completely disregards other factors, like how many games he has played compared to others.
Sounds like Hondo.
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