View Full Version : 7,631 Reasons Why LBJ is the Goat
Shooter
09-17-2022, 10:28 AM
He is the unbreakable playoff scoring champion.
Good luck to all participants.
TheGoatest
09-17-2022, 10:48 AM
One of pro basketball's truly unbreakable records. :applause: :rockon:
Full Court
09-17-2022, 10:51 AM
Sure didn't translate into many wins. :lol
Biggest stat padder of all time.
22-33,-86.
Spurs m8
09-17-2022, 03:42 PM
Hey did that work out?
What's his finals record?
Who has the most missed shots in playoff history?
And the most turnovers?
Guys?
Manny98
09-17-2022, 06:25 PM
7,631 reasons why OP is a 30 year old virgin....
TheMan
09-17-2022, 06:27 PM
7,631 reasons why OP is a 30 year old virgin....
This
That dude literally has a dozen threads dealing with this same exact subject. What a LeLoser.
1987_Lakers
09-17-2022, 06:30 PM
This
That dude literally has a dozen threads dealing with this same exact subject. What a LeLoser.
Dude, he sees you responding all upset so he keeps it up, you are falling for his game. :oldlol:
For the past week I've seen you follow him around all upset.
TheMan
09-17-2022, 07:52 PM
Dude, he sees you responding all upset so he keeps it up, you are falling for his game. :oldlol:
For the past week I've seen you follow him around all upset.
Upset? I respond in a message forum just as you respond to a bunch of my posts but I doubt you're upset. I doubt anybody here is literally upset about some stranger posting anything here but that's just my opinion. Maybe you do get upset and are just projecting?
Spurs m8
09-17-2022, 07:54 PM
Upset? I respond in a message forum just as you respond to a bunch of my posts but I doubt you're upset. I doubt anybody is literally upset about some stranger posting anything here but that's just my opinion. Maybe you do get upset and are just projecting?
I dunno man...I reckon 1987 gets actual upset.
Dude is always following me around, despite me ignoring and never responding to anything the dumb cvnt says
TheMan
09-17-2022, 07:56 PM
I dunno man...I reckon 1987 gets actual upset.
Dude is always following me around, despite me ignoring and never responding to anything the dumb cvnt says
He follows a bunch of my posts too. He probably does get upset IRL :lol
1987_Lakers
09-17-2022, 08:03 PM
Upset? I respond in a message forum just as you respond to a bunch of my posts but I doubt you're upset. I doubt anybody here is literally upset about some stranger posting anything here but that's just my opinion. Maybe you do get upset and are just projecting?
This is you a couple of days ago talking to another poster.
[B]
What you really need is a good ass whipping by an alpha male, you limp wristed feminist soy boy. That way you get to feel what it is to be manhandled by a real man. I bet you hang out with a bunch of women, some hot ones too but alas, you're not fukking not one of them, friend zoned by all of them...you agree with everything they say in the hopes one day they'll have sex with you...
That's never gonna happen :lol
Keep telling yourself you're not upset. :lol
1987_Lakers
09-17-2022, 08:07 PM
Btw, the same day you made that post... I countered one of you arguments in a separate thread and never got a response.
Thats not what you said though. You called LeBron a loser and cant be GOAT for being 4/10 while not realizing Wilt was 2/6, which is worse, but somehow he has a discussion for GOAT with that Finals record according to you. :oldlol:
He has a bunch of records cause he played in an era where stats were inflated, anyone who studies history knows this. And Russell did have better teams the first half of their careers, but by 1965 or 1966 they had similar teams and Russell still beat him for the most part, even in 1969 when Wilt obviously had a better team than Russell.
Nonetheless, I find it funny how you cry about Russell having better teams but ignore the fact that LeBron obviously had worse teams than his Finals opponent in 2007, 2015, and 2018. If you are going to make fun of Bron going 4/10 while ignoring this fact than Wilt going 2/6 needs to get roasted as well.
I suspect you got so anger about getting owned that you took it out on another poor poster.
:pimp:
coastalmarker99
09-17-2022, 08:22 PM
Btw, the same day you made that post... I countered one of you arguments in a separate thread and never got a response.
I suspect you got so anger about getting owned that you took it out on another poor poster.
:pimp:
It should be noted that if you take Wilt out of the equation there have only been 30 to 40 games of 60+ points in Nba history
as (Wilt had 32 by himself.)
Or only 28 30-30 games (Chamberlain had 103 on his own.)
Or only six 40-30 games (Chamberlain had 55.)
And If you take Wilt and his four highest-scoring seasons out from Nba history then MJ's 37.1 ppg would be the all-time record, and James Harden who plays today would be next at 36.1 ppg along with Rick Barry at 35.6 ppg then Kobe at 35.4 ppg.
BTW, Kareem's 34.8 ppg in '72 (also in the Chamberlain-era), is 10th all-time, and Baylor's 60-61 season of 34.8 ppg is 11th.
So, strike Chamberlain from the record book, and the numbers are far more normal across all eras.
So it must be asked...why was it Chamberlain who was the only player in Nba history putting up those staggering scoring, rebounding, FG%'s, seasons.
Those trying to discredit him will never be able to justify why other players) couldn't do it like him.
Wilt is the GOAT.
TheMan
09-17-2022, 08:25 PM
This is you a couple of days ago talking to another poster.
[B]
Keep telling yourself you're not upset. :lol
Oh boy, you need a sense of humor bro. You must be the life of the party. I personally don't hate LL, I just like breaking that pro abortion fem boy balls a bit.
Lighten up carnal :lol
TheMan
09-17-2022, 08:28 PM
Btw, the same day you made that post... I countered one of you arguments in a separate thread and never got a response.
I suspect you got so anger about getting owned that you took it out on another poor poster.
:pimp:
I don't take anything in this site that seriously bro so my bad if I forgot to answer in that thread but I already told you my take. If you love unbreakable stats, Wilt has easily more than LeBron or anyone else, then he's your GOAT. If you just like rings, Russell is it, if you want longevity, KAJ has that along with LeBron but he has more accolades (rings and MVPs).
I already mentioned this somewhere here.
coastalmarker99
09-17-2022, 08:31 PM
1987 Lakers is a great poster but he should stop saying that Wilt's stats are inflated lol.
Most 50-point games in a decade:
5 Wilt, 4 Mikan (1947-60)
113 Wilt, 14 Baylor (1961-70)
9 Kareem, 7 Barry (1971-80)
20 Jordan, 6 King, 6 Wilkins (1981-90)
10 Jordan, 3 Shaq, 3 D Rob (1991-2000)
24 Kobe, 9 Iverson, 8 LeBron (2001-10)
23 Harden, 12 Lillard, 10 Curry (2011-22)
Wilt is the greatest outlier in NBA history.
Here is also a fun fact.
It took everyone combined in NBA history 43 years after Wilt's retirement in 1973 to match the number of 60-point games Wilt had in his career.
Also, Wilt has 15 games over 65 points compared to everybody else in NBA history just having 8.
Shooter
09-18-2022, 10:41 PM
This is you a couple of days ago talking to another poster.
[B]
Keep telling yourself you're not upset. :lol
Got his puny, little limp-wristed ass :roll:
TheGoatest
09-19-2022, 02:33 AM
Btw, the same day you made that post... I countered one of you arguments in a separate thread and never got a response.
Thats not what you said though. You called LeBron a loser and cant be GOAT for being 4/10 while not realizing Wilt was 2/6, which is worse, but somehow he has a discussion for GOAT with that Finals record according to you.
He has a bunch of records cause he played in an era where stats were inflated, anyone who studies history knows this. And Russell did have better teams the first half of their careers, but by 1965 or 1966 they had similar teams and Russell still beat him for the most part, even in 1969 when Wilt obviously had a better team than Russell.
Nonetheless, I find it funny how you cry about Russell having better teams but ignore the fact that LeBron obviously had worse teams than his Finals opponent in 2007, 2015, and 2018. If you are going to make fun of Bron going 4/10 while ignoring this fact than Wilt going 2/6 needs to get roasted as well.
I suspect you got so anger about getting owned that you took it out on another poor poster.
:pimp:
Damn, caught goal-post moving yet again... :oldlol:
Just like going out of his way to diminish Russell's 11/13 that absolutely OBLITERATE jordon's 6/15. :roll:
PerkinsFor3
09-19-2022, 03:50 AM
Nice, so Byron Houston has 15 reasons why he's the goat. Check.
Full Court
09-19-2022, 08:17 AM
Damn, caught goal-post moving yet again... :oldlol:
Just like going out of his way to diminish Russell's 11/13 that absolutely OBLITERATE jordon's 6/15. :roll:
Only Bronies and the low IQ use only a single criteria for rankings instead of looking at a holistic picture.
Shooter
09-24-2022, 10:11 PM
Nice, so Byron Houston has 15 reasons why he's the goat. Check.
Yes and LeBron has 7,631. Keep up.
kawhileonard2
09-24-2022, 10:13 PM
Need an answer on each thread below.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT
Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher
Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2
Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED
Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.
Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds
https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html
And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.
Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron
Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482
Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats
Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600
How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry
Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360
Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.
Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.
LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming
https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:
http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html
First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371
https://media0.giphy.com/media/l0ErLeqamV3UOARsA/giphy.gif
TheGoatest
09-25-2022, 12:38 AM
Yes and LeBron has 7,631. Keep up.
:roll: Dude really thought he had some gotcha-mic drop moment. :facepalm
Spurs m8
09-25-2022, 01:24 AM
I can think of 4,788 reasons he isn't
That is his total turnovers...the most EVER by any player in the history of the league.
LeLowIQ
Huge
OrlandoMagicGuy
09-25-2022, 04:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxvoUjwFVBI&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__fxoJdSpMw&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDTWgiNXuB4&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foC70DB7USc&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnxx9Rg3Vns&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxtWaoebZBA&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Skjijqic9c&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feGhaimPrTQ&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oltKCNmbWlI&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtH5A_nGsmw&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16v9NKRIV1Y&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=43
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuJa0B579YM&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7rb-qTt4Tc&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyLcm8Zf_U0
:lol :lol :lol :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxvoUjwFVBI&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__fxoJdSpMw&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDTWgiNXuB4&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foC70DB7USc&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnxx9Rg3Vns&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxtWaoebZBA&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Skjijqic9c&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feGhaimPrTQ&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oltKCNmbWlI&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtH5A_nGsmw&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16v9NKRIV1Y&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=43
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuJa0B579YM&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7rb-qTt4Tc&list=PLdqTknN_GXpcfgct0eMTPpB29rJUm6Ph6&index=47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyLcm8Zf_U0
:lol :lol :lol :lol
Retard alert
Full Court
09-26-2022, 04:45 PM
Retard alert
^A triggered Bronie with no actual rebuttal to the facts posted by OrlandoMagicGuy. :lol
Shocking!
Baller789
09-26-2022, 08:17 PM
In before the traditional full_court-Axe clusterp*ck
RogueBorg
09-27-2022, 01:17 PM
Damn, caught goal-post moving yet again... :oldlol:
Just like going out of his way to diminish Russell's 11/13 that absolutely OBLITERATE jordon's 6/15. :roll:
Bill Russell: An Overrated NBA Legend Bleacher Report
Offense
At first glance, Bill Russell’s offensive stats can be seen as mediocre. He didn’t exactly dominate offensively, scoring 15.1 ppg while making 44% of his field goals and 56% of his free throws. One may make an argument that he played more of a team game and was not required to score as much with a cast of other all-stars. Yet, careful analysis of his offensive game shows a different picture.
It is difficult at best to compare different NBA eras, so let’s look at some facts. During the first eight years of Russell’s career, the foul lane in the NBA was only 12 feet wide. After the NBA widened the lane to 16 feet in 1964, Bill Russell only averaged 12.6 ppg—hardly stellar numbers.
Russell had incredible athletic ability and vertical leap, but he had an immense advantage over players of his era, who were smaller, weaker, and less athletic than players today. When Wilt Chamberlain entered the NBA in 1960, there were only four players in the league that were taller than 6-8 (including Wilt at 7-1 and Russell at 6-9).
With all of the offensive rebounds Russell grabbed, his height advantage, and his athletic superiority over opposing players, he should have been able to score more dominantly. In today’s game going against taller and stronger players on a nightly basis, he would not have held these advantages.
Lastly, let’s consider the pace of the game. During the late 1950s and 1960s, NBA teams played in a run-and-gun style offense. The early 1960s was the highest scoring environment in NBA history. In 1961-62, the average team scored 118.8 ppg, the highest in the league’s history.
Furthermore, the average team in the 1962 season had an average of 152 ball possessions. Conversely, over the past two decades in the NBA, teams have averaged about 90-100 possessions per game. Given that this difference gave players during that era 50 percent more opportunities to score, this would give Russell an adjusted scoring average of about 10 ppg in today’s game. And that’s without considering having a 16-foot foul lane and competing against taller players.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/441840-bill-russell-an-overrated-nba-legend
TheGoatest
09-27-2022, 04:03 PM
Bill Russell: An Overrated NBA Legend Bleacher Report
Offense
At first glance, Bill Russell’s offensive stats can be seen as mediocre. He didn’t exactly dominate offensively, scoring 15.1 ppg while making 44% of his field goals and 56% of his free throws. One may make an argument that he played more of a team game and was not required to score as much with a cast of other all-stars. Yet, careful analysis of his offensive game shows a different picture.
It is difficult at best to compare different NBA eras, so let’s look at some facts. During the first eight years of Russell’s career, the foul lane in the NBA was only 12 feet wide. After the NBA widened the lane to 16 feet in 1964, Bill Russell only averaged 12.6 ppg—hardly stellar numbers.
Russell had incredible athletic ability and vertical leap, but he had an immense advantage over players of his era, who were smaller, weaker, and less athletic than players today. When Wilt Chamberlain entered the NBA in 1960, there were only four players in the league that were taller than 6-8 (including Wilt at 7-1 and Russell at 6-9).
With all of the offensive rebounds Russell grabbed, his height advantage, and his athletic superiority over opposing players, he should have been able to score more dominantly. In today’s game going against taller and stronger players on a nightly basis, he would not have held these advantages.
Lastly, let’s consider the pace of the game. During the late 1950s and 1960s, NBA teams played in a run-and-gun style offense. The early 1960s was the highest scoring environment in NBA history. In 1961-62, the average team scored 118.8 ppg, the highest in the league’s history.
Furthermore, the average team in the 1962 season had an average of 152 ball possessions. Conversely, over the past two decades in the NBA, teams have averaged about 90-100 possessions per game. Given that this difference gave players during that era 50 percent more opportunities to score, this would give Russell an adjusted scoring average of about 10 ppg in today’s game. And that’s without considering having a 16-foot foul lane and competing against taller players.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/441840-bill-russell-an-overrated-nba-legend
https://c.tenor.com/BzdybKbJj7gAAAAd/moving-goalpost.gif
jordon extremist alts' math:
6 > 4
11 < 6
:roll:
kawhileonard2
09-27-2022, 04:40 PM
https://c.tenor.com/BzdybKbJj7gAAAAd/moving-goalpost.gif
jordon extremist alts' math:
6 > 4
11 < 6
:roll:
Actually it is Jordan Who has the most titles, league mvp’s and Finals mvps combined. He has 17 and Russell 16. Those are facts
8Ball
09-27-2022, 04:47 PM
https://c.tenor.com/BzdybKbJj7gAAAAd/moving-goalpost.gif
jordon extremist alts' math:
6 > 4
11 < 6
:roll:
They use team accomplishments to compare individual players.
Full Court
09-27-2022, 07:03 PM
They use team accomplishments to compare individual players.
Only low-IQ Bronies think you can rank players using a single criterion.
:biggums:
AirBonner
09-27-2022, 07:26 PM
I agree LeBron is easily the goat
AlternativeAcc.
09-27-2022, 08:38 PM
Actually it is Jordan Who has the most titles, league mvp’s and Finals mvps combined. He has 17 and Russell 16. Those are facts
I've combined my dick and your mom's Pucci.
Hi son.
TheCorporation
09-27-2022, 11:55 PM
Yes and LeBron has 7,631. Keep up.
Dude really thought he made a point :roll:
Wrekt
kawhileonard2
09-28-2022, 12:15 AM
I've combined my dick and your mom's Pucci.
Hi son.
And your mom's throat was slit.
SATAN
09-28-2022, 05:42 AM
And your mom's throat was slit.
Seething
TheGoatest
09-28-2022, 06:39 AM
They use team accomplishments to compare individual players.
Except when the name Bill Russell is mentioned. Then rings (team accomplishment) suddenly don't matter as much.
RogueBorg
09-28-2022, 08:21 AM
Except when the name Bill Russell is mentioned. Then rings (team accomplishment) suddenly don't matter as much.
I now you're the dumbest poster around here so I'll explain this so even you can understand. Rings matter absolutely in the GOAT conversation. But so does a players accolades and offensive and defensive abilities. Russell checks the rings box, he checks the accolades box, and he checks the defensive side of his game box. Where he falters is his offensive game. That's why almost no one considers him the GOAT.
TheGoatest
09-28-2022, 08:23 AM
I now you're the dumbest poster around here so
Say what? :oldlol:
This oxymoron might even top the "Your an idiot" one that you posted with one of your alts the other day. :roll:
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