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3ba11
09-22-2022, 01:43 PM
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Only Curry, MJ and Kobe



Carrying the scoring load = averaging 10 more points than all teammates for playoffs and Finals


The reason that MJ, Kobe and Curry did it is because they're the most skilled jumpshooters ever (facilitates ball movement), so they can carry the scoring load with sufficient brand to beat Finals teams.

Since they can beat Finals teams while carrying the scoring load, they can win with secondary producers at sidekick like Wiggins, Pippen or Pau instead of all-time scorers and producers like Wade, Kyrie and AD

PerkinsFor3
09-22-2022, 01:54 PM
Ah Hakeem never excisted. Interesting.

Wilt doesnt qualify.

PerkinsFor3
09-22-2022, 02:05 PM
Ah thanks for clearing that up, we can ignore whatever you post.

red1
09-22-2022, 02:06 PM
who is the best team that baldan ever beat?

baldan's best finals rival was these two white boys on the perimeter while his big men guarded karl the beast malone


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcGODv1aQAA2MEP.jpg

3ba11
09-22-2022, 02:08 PM
Ah thanks for clearing that up, we can ignore whatever you post.


Wilt never carried the scoring load for 2 title runs - when did he average 10 more than teammates for playoffs and Finals of multiple title runs?

Hakeem is the only omission except his rings don't count because MJ wasn't playing full seasons

red1
09-22-2022, 02:10 PM
6'1 and 6'4 stockton and hornacek, both shorter than baldan. meanwhile baldan had 6'7 long armed beast scottie pippen on his team.


pippen, the best perimeter defender in the league.

3ba11
09-22-2022, 02:15 PM
who is the best team that baldan ever beat?

baldan's best finals rival was these two white boys on the perimeter while his big men guarded karl the beast malone


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcGODv1aQAA2MEP.jpg


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^^^ those guys ragdolled Shaq's 4 all-star Lakers and Duncan/Popovich/Robinson



Regular Season

Hornacek (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hornaje01.html).... 17.7 PER.. 2.9 bpm.. 0.153 ws/48.. 42.1 vorp on 33,964 min.. 15/3/5 on 58.2 ts
Klay (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompkl01.html)............. 16.4 PER.. 0.7 bpm.. 0.110 ws/48.. 14.4 vorp on 20,380 min.. 19/3/2 on 57.5 ts


Playoffs

Hornacek (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hornaje01.html).... 16.5 PER.. 3.1 bpm.. 0.145 ws/48.. 14.1 vorp on 4766 min.. 15/4/4 on 57.5 ts
Klay (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompkl01.html)............. 14.4 PER.. 0.7 bpm.. 0.091 ws/48.... 3.1 vorp on 4570 min.. 19/3/2 on 56.0 ts




^^^ Klay/Dray hadn't been all-stars yet heading into the 2015 season.

So the 15' Warriors were noobies that could barely beat an injured Cavs team, while the Jazz were experienced vets that demolished Shaq and Duncan's juggernauts

Hey Yo
09-22-2022, 02:27 PM
Kobe recieved zero defensive attention from the 98 Jazz and still airballed all those 3's


:lol

SouBeachTalents
09-22-2022, 03:05 PM
Nice to see OP bringing new and refreshing content to the board.

pandiani17
09-22-2022, 03:25 PM
The daily thread involving MJ, LeBron, Kobe, Stephen and some weird stats.:oldlol:

ShawkFactory
09-22-2022, 03:37 PM
Nice to see OP bringing new and refreshing content to the board.

:oldlol:

Axe
09-22-2022, 05:15 PM
1-9

Full Court
09-23-2022, 12:10 AM
There were a few people who won multiple chips while defeating max defensive attention and carrying the scoring load

But here's a pro tip: Bronie ain't one of them.

iamgine
09-23-2022, 12:36 AM
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Carrying the scoring load = averaging 10 more points than all teammates for playoffs and Finals

Seems arbitrary. Why not 25 more points. :lol

red1
09-23-2022, 10:37 AM
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^^^ those guys ragdolled Shaq's 4 all-star Lakers and Duncan/Popovich/Robinson



Regular Season

Hornacek (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hornaje01.html).... 17.7 PER.. 2.9 bpm.. 0.153 ws/48.. 42.1 vorp on 33,964 min.. 15/3/5 on 58.2 ts
Klay (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompkl01.html)............. 16.4 PER.. 0.7 bpm.. 0.110 ws/48.. 14.4 vorp on 20,380 min.. 19/3/2 on 57.5 ts


Playoffs

Hornacek (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hornaje01.html).... 16.5 PER.. 3.1 bpm.. 0.145 ws/48.. 14.1 vorp on 4766 min.. 15/4/4 on 57.5 ts
Klay (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompkl01.html)............. 14.4 PER.. 0.7 bpm.. 0.091 ws/48.... 3.1 vorp on 4570 min.. 19/3/2 on 56.0 ts




^^^ Klay/Dray hadn't been all-stars yet heading into the 2015 season.

So the 15' Warriors were noobies that could barely beat an injured Cavs team, while the Jazz were experienced vets that demolished Shaq and Duncan's juggernauts

comparing hornacek and klay is ALMOST reasonable compared to your other comparison of ranking mo williams over scottie pippen as an nba talent


but lets be real.


klay>>> hornacek


and the utah jazz being baldan's main finals rival is NOT a good look after years of you trashing lebrons competition. that so called ray allen ring, the 2013 ring is a better scalp than anything baldan ever won.



white boy perimeter competition.

https://media.giphy.com/media/BFYLNwlsSNtcc/giphy.gif

Full Court
09-23-2022, 11:50 AM
comparing hornacek and klay is ALMOST reasonable compared to your other comparison of ranking mo williams over scottie pippen as an nba talent


but lets be real.


klay>>> hornacek


and the utah jazz being baldan's main finals rival is NOT a good look after years of you trashing lebrons competition. that so called ray allen ring, the 2013 ring is a better scalp than anything baldan ever won.



white boy perimeter competition.

https://media.giphy.com/media/BFYLNwlsSNtcc/giphy.gif

Even if that were true, that the Heat beat a tougher team in 2013 than the Bulls ever did, Lebron still did so with significantly more help than Jordan ever had. Wade/Bosch >>>>>> Pippen/Rodman.

red1
09-23-2022, 12:12 PM
Even if that were true, that the Heat beat a tougher team in 2013 than the Bulls ever did, Lebron still did so with significantly more help than Jordan ever had. Wade/Bosch >>>>>> Pippen/Rodman.

dunno about that. I think you have way too many of these ">" in there. plus bosch is an offensive mispelling.


low IQ post overall.


baldan's competition was dogshit.

SouBeachTalents
09-23-2022, 12:19 PM
dunno about that. I think you have way too many of these ">" in there. plus bosch is an offensive mispelling.


low IQ post overall.


baldan's competition was dogshit.
Like the 2013 version of them too? FOH :lol

RRR3
09-23-2022, 12:20 PM
Who knew LeBron played with Hieronymous Bosch

red1
09-23-2022, 12:21 PM
Like the 2013 version of them too? FOH :lol

he's a ****ing retard. that full court kid.

red1
09-23-2022, 12:21 PM
Who knew LeBron played with Hieronymous Bosch

lol. what a dumbass.

Full Court
09-23-2022, 06:32 PM
dunno about that. I think you have way too many of these ">" in there. plus bosch is an offensive mispelling.


low IQ post overall.


baldan's competition was dogshit.

If it'll make you feel better about it, I'll retract one of my ">"s. ;)

Full Court
09-23-2022, 06:32 PM
he's a ****ing retard. that full court kid.

You sound upset and whiny. Kind of like a Bronie. :lol

3ba11
09-23-2022, 08:17 PM
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Lebron against maximum defensive attention (forced to carry scoring load against Finals team)


2007 Finals - 22 on 35%

2008 ECSF - 26 on 25%

2015 Finals - 35 on 39.8%



Lebron simply lacks the elite jumpshooting skill needed to defeat maximum defensive attention