Curry won with Wiggins as 2nd best player

[Walk on Water]

Could Lebron or KD ever win with Wiggins as their 2nd best player? Just something to consider. Lebron had Wade, Irving and Anthony Davis. I don’t know if Lebron would win 50 percent of his regular season games at this point with Wiggins as his 2nd best player.

This is something that should be looked at. Klay was only 60 percent. Why is it that Lebron and KD always need big names?

[WhiteKyrie]

They were much deeper than just Wiggins. Stop it. Yes, Bron has two HOF perennial stars by his side for 3 of his rings and AD a superstar caliber player and superior player for the meaningless Mickey Mouse bubble chip. But this years Warriors had great depth.

[Full Court]

Lebron had more help than any "great" in the history of the sport.

Curry just won with the least amount of help since Dirk in 2011.

[3ba11]

GM's love to build teams with cheap defenders and secondary producers like Wiggins, but this requires a 1st option that can carry the scoring load.

Unfortunately, ball-dominators can't carry the scoring load against top teams (too ball-dominant) and therefore need all-time scoring help like Kareem, AD, or Wade - they can't win with secondary producers like Wiggins or Pippen that require a 1st option to carry the scoring load.

[StrongLurk]

Klay was the second best player on the Warriors. Wiggins was third.

I would've liked to see Curry go against these Celtics with Klay playing only game one in the finals and Wiggins not playing at all in the finals.

[3ba11]

Klay was the second best player on the Warriors. Wiggins was third.

I would've liked to see Curry go against these Celtics with Klay playing only game one in the finals and Wiggins not playing at all in the finals.


Curry averaged 10 ppg more than Klay for the 2015 playoffs and Finals, so Curry won while defeating maximum defensive attention (carrying scoring load for playoffs and Finals).

The reason Curry can defeat maximum defensive attention and Lebron cannot is due to brand of ball and jumpshooting skill - Lebron can't carry the scoring load against top teams (too ball-dominant) and therefore need all-time scoring help like AD, Wade or Kyrie, while expert jumpshooters like Curry or MJ maintain brand at high volumes, so they can win with less help like Wiggins or Pippen.

Carry on

[Axe]

Oh wow, op is suddenly back after i mentioned his username in another thread. What a coincidence. :biggums:

[MrFonzworth]

Lebron had more help than any "great" in the history of the sport.

Curry just won with the least amount of help since Dirk in 2011.

You mean since Giannis in 2021?

[TheGoatest]

Winning with an all-star (Wiggins) + an all-defensive team member (Draymond) + another 20 ppg scorer (Klay) + another 18 ppg scorer (Poole) is frankly one of the stronger supporting casts this century.
We've all seen how he did as soon as ONE of these components (Klay) was missing in 2020-21.
Now, beating a 73-9 team with 0 all-stars, 0 all-NBA members, 0 all-defensive team members, 0 players with any individual awards or honors of any kind will never get duplicated again.
Curry's supporting cast won twice as many games without him in the 18 games he missed last season as LeBron's supporting cast won without him in the 27 games he missed between 2014-2018.

[MrFonzworth]

Winning with an all-star (Wiggins) + an all-defensive team member (Draymond) + another 20 ppg scorer (Klay) + another 18 ppg scorer (Poole) is frankly one of the stronger supporting casts this century.
We've all seen how he did as soon as ONE of these components (Klay) was missing in 2020-21.
Now, beating a 73-9 team with 0 all-stars, 0 all-NBA members, 0 all-defensive team members, 0 players with any individual awards or honors of any kind will never get duplicated again.
Curry's supporting cast won twice as many games without him in the 18 games he missed last season as LeBron's supporting cast won without him in the 27 games he missed between 2014-2018.

This meltdown reeks of virginity

[Mask the Embiid]

Hmmmm


Nah I would say dray was the 2nd best player. Wiggins was 3rd though. Then looney and poole fighting for 4th and 5th.

Now in the finals Wiggins was the 2nd best player and Klay was 3rd

[LeGoat4Life]

Curry ring worth more than all of Lebron's rings combined

Curry took the hardest road

Chef Dingo :bowdown:

[100grandman]

If you replace Curry with Lebron on Golden State, they still win. Curry isn’t the player Lebron is, and that’s just facts.

[Axe]

If you replace Curry with Lebron on Golden State, they still win. Curry isn’t the player Lebron is, and that’s just facts.
Lol it took stephen curry more than five finals just to garner his first finals mvp award. :oldlol:

[LeGoat4Life]

Lol it took stephen curry more than five finals just to garner his first finals mvp award. :oldlol:

it took Lebron 10 tries to get 4 beta rings :lol

[Axe]

it took Lebron 10 tries to get 4 beta rings :lol
And yet he still holds the most finals mvps for an active player in the league. :lebronamazed:

[LeGoat4Life]

And yet he still holds the most finals mvps for an active player in the league. :lebronamazed:

awwww cute participating award trophy.

That's the only thing lebron fans can celebrate these days :lol

Lefailure

[bison]

Stephen Carry :bowdown:

[Manny98]

Lebron or MJ could never, Curry is dat guy
https://i.postimg.cc/0j5YzR9K/curry-dance-dance.gif

[Axe]

awwww cute participating award trophy.

That's the only thing lebron fans can celebrate these days :lol

Lefailure
Lol you freaks will be on suicide watch once he surpasses kareem's scoring record.

[LeGoat4Life]

Lol you freaks will be on suicide watch once he surpasses kareem's scoring record.

Na

Only Lebron fanboys care about participation trophy and empty stats record while leading the lakers to another lottery season

What's next? Gonna brag about father and son playing on same team? :lol

[Axe]

:cry:
For someone who you think is a fraud, you surely can't stop thinking about him at all. :roll:

[Full Court]

Lol you freaks will be on suicide watch once he surpasses kareem's scoring record.

:lol

Nobody cared when he passed up Jordan the GOAT, so why would anyone care when he passes up #4?

[red1]

this was a nice ring for curry. finally lost his finals choking virginity.


I'm happy for the lil guy.

[Stephonit]

In the future I wonder if we will look back and wonder if Wiggins was really a bigger lift than Klay or Draymond.

[Axe]

In the future I wonder if we will look back and wonder if Wiggins was really a bigger lift than Klay or Draymond.
Well, wiggins could have actually won that media-driven finals mvp award if he was able to put up huge numbers. Something that didn't seem impossible earlier.

[ShawkFactory]

This thread will be a lot more viable in 20 years when most of the people arguing didn’t watch this team or that series.

[ralph_i_el]

Wiggins wasn't Wiggins on that run though. If anything, they might not have won without Wiggins upping his game a tier or two.

[3ba11]

:facepalm:

[3ba11]

Wiggins wasn't Wiggins on that run though. If anything, they might not have won without Wiggins upping his game a tier or two.


You're being results-oriented ralph

[3ba11]

Wiggins wasn't Wiggins on that run though. If anything, they might not have won without Wiggins upping his game a tier or two.





Teammates and cast members will always look better within a better brand of ball (better chemistry and strategies), which Curry provided - Curry provided a dynasty system - the best brand of ball possible.. This helps secondary producers like Wiggins who aren't good enough to be go-to players and elite 1st options - they can become "system" players within a winning brand of ball.

Better brands of ball win with less supporting talent, so Curry could win with Wiggins, while Lebron's inferior brand of ball-domination required elite producers at sidekick like Wade, AD, and Kyrie.

That's why Lebron didn't want Wiggins - Lebron knew that his brand needed absolute studs at sidekicks and couldn't win with secondary producers like Wiggins.. Meanwhile, expert jumpshooters like Curry, MJ, Kawhi, Kobe, and Dirk won with secondary producers like Lowry and Wiggins because their skillset fosters a better brand of ball.

So Curry was more than happy to scoop up Wiggins - Wiggins was actually a superior producer than Klay, who Curry had already carried to a title in 2015.. Expert jumpshooters maintain brand of ball at carry-job volumes, so they carry the scoring load against top teams and win with secondary producers like Wiggins or Pippen.. Otoh, ball-dominators like Lebron and Magic can't carry the scoring load against top teams (too ball-dominant) and therefore need all-time scoring help (Kareem, Wade, AD, Kyrie).

Ultimately, Wiggins is still a secondary-producer and "bum" outside of Curry's dynasty system.. However, Wiggins did average 18-24 before the Warriors, which is far superior to the "Jeff Green" caliber that Pippen was outside of the triangle (14 ppg).. Houston hated the weak-minded and forever-whining Pippen, while also being shocked at his hoops ineptitude (https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-15-2022/7D0vE4.gif), so they traded the 6-time champion for nothing.

[Axe]

Teammates and cast members will always look better within a better brand of ball (better chemistry and strategies), which Curry provided - Curry provided a dynasty system - the best brand of ball possible.. This helps secondary producers like Wiggins who aren't good enough to be go-to players and elite 1st options - they can become "system" players within a winning brand of ball.

Better brands of ball win with less supporting talent, so Curry could win with Wiggins, while Lebron's inferior brand of ball-domination required elite producers at sidekick like Wade, AD, and Kyrie.

That's why Lebron didn't want Wiggins - Lebron knew that his brand needed absolute studs at sidekicks and couldn't win with secondary producers like Wiggins.. Meanwhile, expert jumpshooters like Curry, MJ, Kawhi, Kobe, and Dirk won with secondary producers like Lowry and Wiggins because their skillset fosters a better brand of ball.

So Curry was more than happy to scoop up Wiggins - Wiggins was actually a superior producer than Klay, who Curry had already carried to a title in 2015.. Expert jumpshooters maintain brand of ball at carry-job volumes, so they carry the scoring load against top teams and win with secondary producers like Wiggins or Pippen.. Otoh, ball-dominators like Lebron and Magic can't carry the scoring load against top teams (too ball-dominant) and therefore need all-time scoring help (Kareem, Wade, AD, Kyrie).

Ultimately, Wiggins is still a secondary-producer and "bum" outside of Curry's dynasty system.. However, Wiggins did average 18-24 before the Warriors, which is far superior the "Jeff Green" caliber that Pippen was outside of the triangle (14 ppg).. Houston hated the weak-minded and forever-whining Pippen, while also being shocked at his hoops ineptitude (https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-15-2022/7D0vE4.gif), so they traded the 6-time champion for nothing.
1-9

[Walk on Water]

They were much deeper than just Wiggins. Stop it. Yes, Bron has two HOF perennial stars by his side for 3 of his rings and AD a superstar caliber player and superior player for the meaningless Mickey Mouse bubble chip. But this years Warriors had great depth.

The year before the Warriors were not taken seriously. When has Lebron ever won with a guy like Wiggins coming into his system as the 2nd best player? Look at how deep Miami was.

[Walk on Water]

2 years ago the Warriors were considered the worst team. They had Green too. This goes to show how much of a difference Curry makes to the system. Even without Klay, the Warriors had the best or second best record. Trust me. If Lebron had Wiggins vs the Spurs in the Finals, people would be saying that Lebron only played with ''bust'' Wiggins. Wiggins would be the Larry Hughes of that team.

Now all of a sudden, Wiggins is this starting All Star. I think Wiggins is very good, but if he were to play with Lebron we would never see his potential unleashed. I also can't imagine KD playing well with Wiggins like that.

You gotta remember, Lebron has played on some clearly stacked teams. Miami he had Wade, Bosh as well as Ray Allen and Shane Battier, Mike Miller, Udonis Haslem, Birdman, Rashard Lewis and Mario Chalmers. Shane Battier was a great role player. Mike Miller was a 3 point specialist. That was a stacked team. Lost to the Spurs by 15 ppg.

[Axe]

2 years ago the Warriors were considered the worst team. They had Green too. This goes to show how much of a difference Curry makes to the system. Even without Klay, the Warriors had the best or second best record. Trust me. If Lebron had Wiggins vs the Spurs in the Finals, people would be saying that Lebron only played with ''bust'' Wiggins. Wiggins would be the Larry Hughes of that team.

Now all of a sudden, Wiggins is this starting All Star. I think Wiggins is very good, but if he were to play with Lebron we would never see his potential unleashed. I also can't imagine KD playing well with Wiggins like that.

You gotta remember, Lebron has played on some clearly stacked teams. Miami he had Wade, Bosh as well as Ray Allen and Shane Battier, Mike Miller, Udonis Haslem, Birdman, Rashard Lewis and Mario Chalmers. Shane Battier was a great role player. Mike Miller was a 3 point specialist. That was a stacked team. Lost to the Spurs by 15 ppg.
No klay? No playoffs. Period.

[3ba11]

No klay? No playoffs. Period.


In 2005, Zydrunas was an all-star and Larry Hughes averaged 22/6/5 with first-team defense, so Lebron needed far more help to make the 2006 playoffs than Curry needed in 2013 with 2nd year Klay - Klay wasn't an all-star or all-defense until 2015, whereas Lebron had 2 teammates with those accolades in 2006.

[Axe]

^^Thread has nothing to do with LeKong or his former teammates, you fukking bozo.

[3ba11]

^^Thread has nothing to do with LeKong or his former teammates, you fukking bozo.


You're wrong because the point is that Curry needed less help... Less help than who? Less help than Lebron and others.

Curry won with secondary producers at sidekick like Klay (15') or Wiggins (22'), while other guys like Lebron needed elite 1st options at sidekick like AD, Wade or Kyrie.

GM's prefer to build a team with cheap defenders but this requires a 1st option like Curry or MJ that can carry the scoring load (expert jumpshooters).. Otoh, the inferior brand of ball-dominators forces GM's to find all-time scoring help like Kareem, Wade, AD, Kyrie, etc

[Axe]

You're wrong because the point is that Curry needed less help... Less help than who? Less help than Lebron and others.

Curry won with secondary producers at sidekick like Klay (15') or Wiggins (22'), while other guys like Lebron needed elite 1st options at sidekick like AD, Wade or Kyrie.

GM's prefer to build a team with cheap defenders but this requires a 1st option like Curry or MJ that can carry the scoring load (expert jumpshooters).. Otoh, the inferior brand of ball-dominators forces GM's to find all-time scoring help like Kareem, Wade, AD, Kyrie, etc
Except curry didn't win anything significant until steve kerr became his head coach. Just like jordan and kobe were before phil jackson was able to coach them.

[3ba11]

Except curry didn't win anything significant until steve kerr became his head coach. Just like jordan and kobe were before phil jackson was able to coach them.


When the Warriors first won in 2015, Curry was already an all-time candidate while Kerr was the 1st-time, nobody coach.. Similarly, MJ was already a goat candidate in 90/91, while Phil was a 1st-time nobody coach.

The dynasty system of Phil and Kerr would be an ordinary system without the expert jumpshooting and goat scoring ability of Curry and MJ.

People are misguided by thinking crazy stuff like Lillard could replace Curry, but Lillard is a massive ball-dominator - he's nothing like Curry.. Kyrie would be a closer comparison but Kyrie lacks Curry's unique range, which changes the game and elevates teammates and ultimately wins with less

[Axe]

When the Warriors first won in 2015, Curry was already an all-time candidate while Kerr was the 1st-time, nobody coach.. Similarly, MJ was already a goat candidate in 90/91, while Phil was a 1st-time nobody coach.

The dynasty system of Phil and Kerr would be an ordinary system without the expert jumpshooting and goat scoring ability of Curry and MJ.

People are misguided by thinking crazy stuff like Lillard could replace Curry, but Lillard is a massive ball-dominator - he's nothing like Curry.. Kyrie would be a closer comparison but Kyrie lacks Curry's unique range, which changes the game and elevates teammates and ultimately wins with less
Baloney, curry hasn't won anything when mark jackson was his team's coach. Same thing with jordan, he never won anything when doug collins coached him. Also with kobe under any coach not named phil jackson.

[Lee]

I don't think they win if Klay doesn't return from injury.

[ShawkFactory]

I don't think they win if Klay doesn't return from injury.

No they don't. Regardless of what his numbers look like, he is an absolutely enormous part of the offense. Someone has to be in his chest on the perimeter at all times.

[3ba11]

I don't think they win if Klay doesn't return from injury.


Yeah but what was Klay at that point in his career - a top 40 player?... Top 50? ... aka replaceable

People forget that ball-dominators can't carry the scoring load against top teams (too ball-dominant), so they need all-time scoring help like AD, Wade or Kyrie.. Otoh, expert jumpshooters like Curry or MJ can carry the scoring load against top teams, so they can win with secondary producers like Klay (15'), Wiggins (22'), or Pippen

[1987_Lakers]

When the Warriors first won in 2015, Curry was already an all-time candidate

Before Kerr got there I can see hall of fame, but all-time great meaning top 10-20 ever? Not even close. Nobody expected Curry to break out the way he did once Kerr got there, and Kerr's offense had alot to do with that.

[Hey Yo]

When the Warriors first won in 2015, Curry was already an all-time candidate while Kerr was the 1st-time, nobody coach.. Similarly, MJ was already a goat candidate in 90/91, while Phil was a 1st-time nobody coach.

The dynasty system of Phil and Kerr would be an ordinary system without the expert jumpshooting and goat scoring ability of Curry and MJ.

People are misguided by thinking crazy stuff like Lillard could replace Curry, but Lillard is a massive ball-dominator - he's nothing like Curry.. Kyrie would be a closer comparison but Kyrie lacks Curry's unique range, which changes the game and elevates teammates and ultimately wins with less

Ty Lue was a nobody coach when he beat a 73 win team that's considered the greatest comeback in Finals history.

Jackson >>>>>>>>>>> Kerr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lue.

[Full Court]

I can't stand Kerr as a person. But there's no denying that he's been a great coach.

[ShawkFactory]

Yeah but what was Klay at that point in his career - a top 40 player?... Top 50? ... aka replaceable

People forget that ball-dominators can't carry the scoring load against top teams (too ball-dominant), so they need all-time scoring help like AD, Wade or Kyrie.. Otoh, expert jumpshooters like Curry or MJ can carry the scoring load against top teams, so they can win with secondary producers like Klay (15'), Wiggins (22'), or Pippen

Jordan Poole 2022 Playoffs (4th best player): 17/4/4 on 65 TS%, .151 WS/48, 2.8 BPM, 0.7 VORP

Mo Williams 2009 Playoffs (2nd best player): 16/4/3 on on 53 TS%, .103 WS/48, 0.4 BPM, 0.3 VORP

[Full Court]

Jordan Poole 2022 Playoffs (4th best player): 17/4/4 on 65 TS%, .151 WS/48, 2.8 BPM, 0.7 VORP

Mo Williams 2009 Playoffs (2nd best player): 16/4/3 on on 53 TS%, .103 WS/48, 0.4 BPM, 0.3 VORP

Jordan Poole 2022-2023 pre-season: 0-1 in bare knuckle fights.

[Lee]

I can't stand Kerr as a person. But there's no denying that he's been a great coach.

He has a working system as a coach. Will be interesting seeing him post-Warriors core ( Green - Klay - Curry - Iguodala)

[ShawkFactory]

Jordan Poole 2022-2023 pre-season: 0-1 in bare knuckle fights.

Sick deflection, nerd.

[Axe]

Before Kerr got there I can see hall of fame, but all-time great meaning top 10-20 ever? Not even close. Nobody expected Curry to break out the way he did once Kerr got there, and Kerr's offense had alot to do with that.
This.

[Full Court]

Sick deflection, nerd.

Lighten up, snowflake.

[ShawkFactory]

snowflake.

Ok dad :lol

Jesus

[Full Court]

Ok dad :lol

Jesus

We good, son?

[Ne 1]

First off, its a team sport, not a 2 man sport. Lebron's big 3 teams have a worse supporting cast than the current Warriors. Yes LeBron’s starters are far talented, but when you consider the bench, coach, and overall fit, thats where the difference shows. Look at KD also, have a superstar Kyrie, but a Nash coach and bad supporting cast.

This is why lebron gets so much hate because people only tend to look at the big names. Example would be, Jordan only had pippen, Curry only got Wiggins, etc etc. No, THEY GOT A TEAM, A championship team.

[Axe]

Ok dad :lol

Jesus
Mongoloid jizzrag always has to have the last word. As usual. Watch again later. :yaohappy:

[Manny98]

Curry won with Wiggins

LeBron lost with prime Wade

That's the difference, Curry the GOAT

https://i.postimg.cc/0y2JVyCS/curry-dance-dance.gif

[Johnny32]

i heard stephanie got embarrassed by little country reaves last night. how embarrassing. warriors look like a lottery team without draydaddy.

[TheGoatest]

LeBron won with a 15.9 ppg in the playoffs averaging Wade (2nd in playoff ppg on the team)
Curry won with a 16.5 ppg in the playoffs averaging Wiggins (4th in playoff ppg on the team)

And don't even get me started on how Wiggins was an all-star and Draymond all-defensive selection, whereas LeBron won in 2016 with 0 all-stars, 0 all-defensive/NBA selections. Against Curry by the way. :roll:

[SATAN]

Curry the GOAT


Let's not ever forget Manny actually said this.

[Stephonit]

Prophetic if true.

[Axe]

Prophetic if true.
Iggy just turned andrew wiggins into a finalist this year. As well as jimmy butler with another team during the 2020 disney bubble.

[kawhileonard2]

Could Lebron or KD ever win with Wiggins as their 2nd best player? Just something to consider. Lebron had Wade, Irving and Anthony Davis. I don’t know if Lebron would win 50 percent of his regular season games at this point with Wiggins as his 2nd best player.

This is something that should be looked at. Klay was only 60 percent. Why is it that Lebron and KD always need big names?

Wiggins would have been a 5th option on these Lakers

[AlternativeAcc.]

He didn't make the playoffs with Wiggins and Poole just last year

It's always been Klay and Drays team. Curry gets zero credit for any ring.

[3ba11]

He didn't make the playoffs with Wiggins and Poole just last year

It's always been Klay and Drays team. Curry gets zero credit for any ring.


Curry gets the same injury excuses that Lebron got in 2019 and 2022 for missing the playoffs

The difference is that Curry was actually building an organic dynasty (again), while 2022 lebron was already finished with his 1-and-done approach to winning...

lebron's talent-based approach to winning (all-star team strategy and no brand/chemistry development) yields a one-off title and then franchise destruction.. we're in the destruction phase now, which will be more drawn out than normal because of the longevity goal pursuits

[AlternativeAcc.]

Curry gets the same injury excuses that Lebron got in 2019 and 2022 for missing the playoffs

The difference is that Curry was actually building an organic dynasty (again), while 2022 lebron was already finished with his 1-and-done approach to winning...

lebron's talent-based approach to winning (all-star team strategy and no brand/chemistry development) yields a one-off title and then franchise destruction.. we're in the destruction phase now, which will be more drawn out than normal because of the longevity goal pursuits
Wiggins, curry, dray, and poole played the majority of the season and had 2 games to make the playoffs. Curry lost to Morant and watched LeBron hit a game winner in his face.

So he missed the playoffs with Wiggins/Dray/Poole so doesn't get any credit for the "ring"

It's Klays team.

[3ba11]

Wiggins, curry, dray, and poole played the majority of the season and had 2 games to make the playoffs. Curry lost to Morant and watched LeBron hit a game winner in his face.

So he missed the playoffs with Wiggins/Dray/Poole so doesn't get any credit for the "ring"

It's Klays team.


Look at 94' Hakeem, 06' Wade, 21' Giannis or 19' Kawhi - the peak of many all-time greats is when they defeat maximum defensive attention (carry load in Finals of title run)

Very few players have even won this way because it requires winning with secondary producers like Lowry, Horry or Wiggins instead of winning with elite producers like Kareem, Kobe, Wade or AD.

But Curry has won this way - he defeated maximum defensive attention in 2015 and 2022 by winning with Klay as sidekick and then Wiggins.. People simply aren't giving him enough credit and ignoring the elephant in the room that Lebron could never win with a secondary producer like Wiggins that required Lebron to carry the scoring load..

Specifically, Lebron lacks sufficient brand of ball to carry the scoring load against top teams (too ball-dominant), so he needs all-time scoring help, while expert jumpshooters like Curry can carry the scoring load against top teams (good brand of ball) and therefore win with secondary bums like Wiggins.

[Axe]

He didn't make the playoffs with Wiggins and Poole just last year

It's always been Klay and Drays team. Curry gets zero credit for any ring.
It took andre iguodala (who also made the finals with the heat two years ago) coming back to the team for them to make the finals again too. :lebronamazed:

[Stephonit]

It took andre iguodala (who also made the finals with the heat two years ago) coming back to the team for them to make the finals again too. :lebronamazed:

What you are saying then is that Curry won with Andre Iguodala as the 2nd best player.

Sounds even more impressive.

[Manny98]

Let's not ever forget Manny actually said this.
Will be when it's all said and done, spearheaded one of the greatest dynasties ever, first unanimous MVP, changed the game

1. Curry
2. LeBron
3. MJ

[Axe]

What you are saying then is that Curry won with Andre Iguodala as the 2nd best player.

Sounds even more impressive.
The very same guy who snatched the finals mvp 7 years ago. :roll:

[Stephonit]

The very same guy who snatched the finals mvp 7 years ago. :roll:

Who has won with a less accomplished player than Iguodala? He's not even a guarantee for Hall of Fame. Then to win again with Wiggins??? Who has won twice with such players as primary support?

[Axe]

Who has won with a less accomplished player than Iguodala? He's not even a guarantee for Hall of Fame. Then to win again with Wiggins??? Who has won twice with such players as primary support?
Doesn't matter. He never missed the playoffs for more than ten straight years and has been to seven finals trips already.

[ShawkFactory]

Who has won with a less accomplished player than Iguodala? He's not even a guarantee for Hall of Fame. Then to win again with Wiggins??? Who has won twice with such players as primary support?

Everyone who has ever won has done it with a less accomplished player than Iguodala.

[Stephonit]

Everyone who has ever won has done it with a less accomplished player than Iguodala.

Take note of the title of the thread.

[Full Court]

Everyone who has ever won has done it with a less accomplished player than Iguodala.

As second option? If that's what you meant, than you're on crack. There have been at most a couple.

[Stephonit]

As second option? If that's what you meant, than you're on crack. There have been at most a couple.

Care to explain? Who would those couple be?

[ShawkFactory]

As second option? If that's what you meant, than you're on crack. There have been at most a couple.

Iguodala was neither the second option nor the second best player on the 2015 Warriors.

[Stephonit]

Iguodala was neither the second option nor the second best player on the 2015 Warriors.

Interesting so the FMVP went to a player who was neither the first or second option. How many times has that happened?

[ShawkFactory]

Interesting so the FMVP went to a player who was neither the first or second option. How many times has that happened?

Not sure. But it happened in 2015.

[Stephonit]

Then it would be accurate to say then that Curry has won championships with second options that weren't strong enough to be considered universally as the clear second option.

[ShawkFactory]

Klay Thompson was the clear second option.

Freak things happen though. 2015 was a weird year. I’m sure you’ve had plenty of gripes with the FMVP award decision.

[Full Court]

Care to explain? Who would those couple be?

If you're saying that everyone who has won has won with SOMEONE on their team less accomplished than Iguodala, then I would agree. Iggy is not the least accomplished player to ever win a ring.

I took your post as you implying that everyone who's won has done so with a less accomplished sidekick/second option than Iggy.

[Stephonit]

If you're saying that everyone who has won has won with SOMEONE on their team less accomplished than Iguodala, then I would agree. Iggy is not the least accomplished player to ever win a ring.

I took your post as you implying that everyone who's won has done so with a less accomplished sidekick/second option than Iggy.

You interpreted my question as I intended.