Anthony Davis already has made more all star games than Scottie Pippen

[Bacchus]

Davis still has a good 7 years left in him

[Xiao Yao You]

pretty optimistic considering the guy has never been able to stay on the floor

[Overdrive]

Jordan would have won less with AD. Worse fit.

[SouBeachTalents]

Jordan would have won less with AD. Worse fit.
He would have won even less with Kyrie.

[TheMan]

LeBronsexuals in full on damage control :lol

[TheGoatest]

LeBron has a perfect playoff record in series where AD has been healthy and playing.
jordon does not in playoff series where The Great Scott Pippen has been healthy and playing.

Horace Grant and B.J. Armstrong have made more all-star games in their first season without jordon dragging them down than they have in all of their other seasons with jordon dragging them down combined.

[Overdrive]

LeBronsexuals in full on damage control :lol

I don't even like Lebron. Some things said are just stupid. Some dude wants to spite Lebron by bringing up Mr Glass' AS games?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Jordan would have won less with AD. Worse fit.
Possibly but it would have more to do with health. Davis would drag a big out of the paint hit jumpers all day or score on post ups. And while Jordan rested he would be even better to run the offense through than Pippen. It would be a different fit but both guys were versatile and individually great enough to make it work.

[ralph_i_el]

Jordan would have won less with AD. Worse fit.

AD is a great fit with anybody imo.

[Overdrive]

Possibly but it would have more to do with health. Davis would drag a big out of the paint hit jumpers all day or score on post ups. And while Jordan rested he would be even better to run the offense through than Pippen. It would be a different fit but both guys were versatile and individually great enough to make it work.

Bulls would be in dire need of a player maker though. I know Jordan played point for some time in the late 80s, but he was most dangerous from the triple threat. Some point that could bring up the ball and play serviceable defense would suffice, but Paxson and Kerr wouldn't be those guys. It would completely change the Bulls' make up.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Bulls would be in dire need of a player maker though. I know Jordan played point for some time in the late 80s, but he was most dangerous from the triple threat. Some point that could bring up the ball and play serviceable defense would suffice, but Paxson and Kerr wouldn't be those guys. It would completely change the Bulls' make up.

It's hard to argue with 6 rings and I am not trying to say they would be better. But just talking about as an on paper pairing there is no player that you couldn't pair with Davis. Neither Jordan nor Davis had any weaknesses in their game for the opponent to exploit. The only concern would be that Davis had bad luck with injuries.

[TheMan]

LeBron has a perfect playoff record in series where AD has been healthy and playing.
jordon does not in playoff series where The Great Scott Pippen has been healthy and playing.

Horace Grant and B.J. Armstrong have made more all-star games in their first season without jordon dragging them down than they have in all of their other seasons with jordon dragging them down combined.

Dragging them down says this mouthbreather, lol. MJ made them champs, numbskull. They didn't win shit in '94, neither when they went to other teams (except Grant who wasn't even third wheel on the Shaq, Kobe Lakers).

So far Bran as a Laker, no AD, no playoffs.

[Overdrive]

It's hard to argue with 6 rings and I am not trying to say they would be better. But just talking about as an on paper pairing there is no player that you couldn't pair with Davis. Neither Jordan nor Davis had any weaknesses in their game for the opponent to exploit. The only concern would be that Davis had bad luck with injuries.

I do agree to the extent that on a blank team they'd be great to build around, but I don't think AD could take Pippen's roster spot and they'd be as good.

[Axe]

I do agree to the extent that on a blank team they'd be great to build around, but I don't think AD could take Pippen's roster spot and they'd be as good.
https://i.ibb.co/SB0dZGk/IMG-20220930-083043.jpg

Yet it didn't stop casual thurston (tpols aka a kobe stan who also berates pippen) from thinking that he was actually lew alcindor amidst the title run of the 2020 disney bubble. Only to find afterwards that davis was never the same player again. :oldlol:

[Real Men Wear Green]

I do agree to the extent that on a blank team they'd be great to build around, but I don't think AD could take Pippen's roster spot and they'd be as good.

What decent gm and owner wouldn't take Jordan and Davis and do their best to build around them? Only some Donald Sterling type wouldn't try and win a championship.

[TheGoatest]

Dragging them down says this mouthbreather, lol. MJ made them champs, numbskull. They didn't win shit in '94, neither when they went to other teams (except Grant who wasn't even third wheel on the Shaq, Kobe Lakers).

So far Bran as a Laker, no AD, no playoffs.

The Bulls won a playoff series in 1994, even if we consider the one of the worst calls in history "foul" on Hubert Davis as legit. Now if we talk about jordon without The Great Scott Pippen in 1984-87 and 2001-03... Now that should be in the dictionary next to "not winning a shit". :roll:
So far for LeBron: Winning three times as many 7 game series against western conference champions without AD than AD won against any western conference team while playing in the west without LeBron.

[TheMan]

The Bulls won a playoff series in 1994, even if we consider the one of the worst calls in history "foul" on Hubert Davis as legit. Now if we talk about jordon without The Great Scott Pippen in 1984-87 and 2001-03... Now that should be in the dictionary next to "not winning a shit". :roll:
So far for LeBron: Winning three times as many 7 game series against western conference champions without AD than AD won against any western conference team while playing in the west without LeBron.

No AD, no playoffs :confusedshrug:

[1987_Lakers]

No AD, no playoffs :confusedshrug:

No AD, 3 chips

No Pip, 1-9

[Kblaze8855]

Yet another great player swallowed by the stupid endless argument that infects discussion of anyone to so much as suit up next to Lebron, Jordan, or Kobe. The exact same people you would predict have to prop up each or tear them down to the point you almost never see an opinion that doesn’t go with the established narrative of the source. Dude is either better than Kareem(I suppose making him Jordan tier or above) or a stat padding loser.

Shame because he really is pretty amazing when healthy but you’ll never see an honest discussion about him, Scottie, Gasol, Wade, or anyone to touch those guys career in any way.

I read Ham and Lebron wanna make him the mvp this year and I wouldn’t be shocked to see it. He’s obviously got it in him in just dreading the stupid back and forths that will result.

[Xiao Yao You]

Yet another great player swallowed by the stupid endless argument that infects discussion of anyone to so much as suit up next to Lebron, Jordan, or Kobe. The exact same people you would predict have to prop up each or tear them down to the point you almost never see an opinion that doesn’t go with the established narrative of the source. Dude is either better than Kareem(I suppose making him Jordan tier or above) or a stat padding loser.

Shame because he really is pretty amazing when healthy but you’ll never see an honest discussion about him, Scottie, Gasol, Wade, or anyone to touch those guys career in any way.

I read Ham and Lebron wanna make him the mvp this year and I wouldn’t be shocked to see it. He’s obviously got it in him in just dreading the stupid back and forths that will result.

I'd be shocked. You have to be on the court to win MVP.

[Axe]

I'd be shocked. You have to be on the court to win MVP.
Maybe ad can turn into abdul jabbar again next season. Who knows. :confusedshrug:

[Kblaze8855]

Id be surprised if he won it I suppose. It feels like Giannis, Luka, or Jokic almost have to since they have no teammates or narratives to siphon off votes. Maybe put Steph in that mix too. Be hard for one of the multiple superstar teams to get one. Doc apparently wants Hardencto turn back to Houston mode and score which limits Embiid. There are dark horse types but most have some narrative working against them. Ja, Trae, maybe Zion, whoever you credit on Minny, Leonard, Booker and so on all have issues working against them. Lebron would have to drop to like a 22/11 playmaker to give AD a chance.

[Xiao Yao You]

Id be surprised if he won it I suppose. It feels like Giannis, Luka, or Jokic almost have to since they have no teammates or narratives to siphon off votes. Maybe put Steph in that mix too. Be hard for one of the multiple superstar teams to get one. Doc apparently wants Hardencto turn back to Houston mode and score which limits Embiid. There are dark horse types but most have some narrative working against them. Ja, Trae, maybe Zion, whoever you credit on Minny, Leonard, Booker and so on all have issues working against them. Lebron would have to drop to like a 22/11 playmaker to give AD a chance.

Lakers would have to win games which isn't likely at this stage when your two top players won't be playing much

[TheMan]

No AD, 3 chips

No Pip, 1-9

No AD, 18-31

[100grandman]

No AD, 18-31

Weak argument.

[Full Court]

The best sidekick anyone's had since Shaq had Kobe.

[red1]

AD = always damaged


fragile ass just threw 2 season away in a row. the goodwill from the 2020 ring is wearing out, we have bald gambling sociopaths to catch over here.

[TheMan]

AD = always damaged


fragile ass just threw 2 season away in a row. the goodwill from the 2020 ring is wearing out, we have bald gambling sociopaths to catch over here.

Time for Bran's annual Moar Halp campaign?

[red1]

Time for Bran's annual Moar Halp campaign?

they dont need more help. AD and lebron would have given both of the last two champions a run for their money.


lebron was ready both years - shame AD was out.



meanwhile baldan's supporting cast never had a single player as fragile as AD. pippen rodman nor grant ever missed a significant amount of time like this kid. it is what it is.


lets not act like AD being fragile isnt a fact.


literally wasted two prime postseasons of the GOAT.

[TheMan]

they dont need more help. AD and lebron would have given both of the last two champions a run for their money.


lebron was ready both years - shame AD was out.



meanwhile baldan's supporting cast never had a single player as fragile as AD. pippen rodman nor grant ever missed a significant amount of time like this kid. it is what it is.


lets not act like AD being fragile isnt a fact.


literally wasted two prime postseasons of the GOAT.

Blame LeGM, he should've recruited another top tier player (like does every offseason).

[red1]

Blame LeGM, he should've recruited another top tier player (like does every offseason).

it is what it is. at least AD came through 2020.


AD and lebron still have another ring in them. knock on wood that "the fragile one" doesnt go down AGAIN. that would literally be the 3rd year in a row of being unavailable for the postseason. so again, knock on wood.

[TheMan]

it is what it is. at least AD came through 2020.


AD and lebron still have another ring in them. knock on wood that "the fragile one" doesnt go down AGAIN. that would literally be the 3rd year in a row of being unavailable for the postseason. so again, knock on wood.

Nope, too many younger and better teams right now, LeBron and a healthy AD aren't enough, maybe if they can recruit KD or another top 10 player but I just don't see the Lakers having enough quality role players to hang with the deeper teams.

[Full Court]

Nope, too many younger and better teams right now, LeBron and a healthy AD aren't enough, maybe if they can recruit KD or another top 10 player but I just don't see the Lakers having enough quality role players to hang with the deeper teams.

You're forgetting that they have Westbrook - multiple-time all star, former MVP, and all time triple double leader.

[TheMan]

You're forgetting that they have Westbrook - multiple-time all star, former MVP, and all time triple double leader.

Westbrook has fallen off from his peak noticeably...plus he's a horrible fit with James.

[kawhileonard2]

Davis led the team in PER and win Shares for a team that won it all while before he came they missed the playoffs.

[TheGoatest]

AD = always damaged


fragile ass just threw 2 season away in a row. the goodwill from the 2020 ring is wearing out, we have bald gambling sociopaths to catch over here.

The guy with the many alts, who also wrote the last 3 posts prior to this one agrees:

https://images4.imagebam.com/69/c9/98/MEEBM4I_o.png

[red1]

Nope, too many younger and better teams right now, LeBron and a healthy AD aren't enough, maybe if they can recruit KD or another top 10 player but I just don't see the Lakers having enough quality role players to hang with the deeper teams.

lakers will make a run. AD and lebron are too good. they have had a lot of rest too despite lebrons age and AD's fragility.


bron is superhuman so he will have a great season, it is expected. we will see if the fragile one can one hold up.

[TheMan]

lakers will make a run. AD and lebron are too good. they have had a lot of rest too despite lebrons age and AD's fragility.


bron is superhuman so he will have a great season, it is expected. we will see if the fragile one can one hold up.

LeBron has held up, but honestly that's because he hasn't played defense for at least a half decade. Healthy AD, yes they will make the playoffs but they can't hang with younger deeper teams.

[1987_Lakers]

LeBron has held up, but honestly that's because he hasn't played defense for at least a half decade. Healthy AD, yes they will make the playoffs but they can't hang with younger deeper teams.

Someone didn't watch the 2020 season, LeBron was solid on the defensive end that year.

[TheMan]

Someone didn't watch the 2020 season, LeBron was solid on the defensive end that year.

I saw enough to where I saw a noticeable drop off when he could actually defend quick guards. He couldn't anymore bro, take off your rose colored glasses. He can still get it done on the offense but he's nowhere near when he was a stud on defense. AD made a bigger impact on defense.

[1987_Lakers]

I saw enough to where I saw a noticeable drop off when he could actually defend quick guards. He couldn't anymore bro, take off your rose colored glasses. He can still get it done on the offense but he's nowhere near when he was a stud on defense. AD made a bigger impact on defense.

Don't lie, I know you were not watching games.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzgIzKaqN1k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7elOsgDL7Cc

[TheMan]

Don't lie, I know you were not watching games.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzgIzKaqN1k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7elOsgDL7Cc

Are trying to argue that James was the best defender on his team in 2020? That he had the biggest defensive impact?

[1987_Lakers]

Are trying to argue that James was the best defender on his team in 2020? That he had the biggest defensive impact?

I'm saying he was a good defender. Anyone who watched the Lakers that season will tell you that.

You saying he hasn't played defense in 5 years in flat out wrong.

Hold the L and move on.

[TheMan]

I'm saying he was a good defender. Anyone who watched the Lakers that season will tell you that.

You saying he hasn't played defense in 5 years in flat out wrong.

Hold the L and move on.

So did he get any votes for any All NBA defensive teams?

[1987_Lakers]

So did he get any votes for any All NBA defensive teams?

Yes, he got 7 votes in 2020 as a matter of fact.

OTHER PLAYERS RECEIVING VOTES: FORWARDS

LeBron James (L.A. Lakers) 7


https://www.nba.com/2019-20-all-defensive-teams-official-release

Stop while you're behind.

[TheMan]

Yes, he got 7 votes in 2020 as a matter of fact.

OTHER PLAYERS RECEIVING VOTES: FORWARDS

LeBron James (L.A. Lakers) 7


https://www.nba.com/2019-20-all-defensive-teams-official-release

Stop while you're behind.

He didn't get in any of the All NBA defensive teams, a host of players, some not even deserving get mentioned, especially if it's from that media's hometown. I bet they were LA sportswriters, no?

[1987_Lakers]

He didn't get in any of the All NBA defensive teams, a host of players, some not even deserving get mentioned, especially if it's from that media's hometown. I bet they were LA sportswriters, no?

Moving the goal posts I see.

Went from, "did he get any votes?" to "didn't get in the all-defensive team".

[RRR3]

Moving the goal posts I see.

Went from, "did he get any votes?" to "didn't get in the all-defensive team".
TheCousinStan at it again

[TheMan]

Moving the goal posts I see.

Went from, "did he get any votes?" to "didn't get in the all-defensive team".

Fair enough, I asked you if those sports writers were from LA. It wouldn't shock me at all. It's one thing to go from a elite defender, which LeBron was, to someone who everyone knew wasn't playing defense to being someone who puts some effort. That doesn't necessarily make you a good defender. I'm arguing he's nowhere near what he was, you're arguing he's still a good defensive player, we'll agree to disagree. AD is easily LA's best defender.

[1987_Lakers]

Fair enough, I asked you if those sports writers were from LA.

Around 100 sports writers vote for these things, you really think ALL of them for from LA? They are from the entire country. Smh. :facepalm

[1987_Lakers]

I'm arguing he's nowhere near what he was.

No you're not.


but honestly that's because he hasn't played defense for at least a half decade.

:facepalm

[Hey Yo]

ThePunchingBag gettin worked over as usual

[TheMan]

No you're not.



:facepalm

Yes I am, you're saying he's a good defender, I'm saying he's not, the fact he hasn't made any All Defensive teams in quite a while supports my argument. Anyone can cheery pick a few good defensive moments here and there, that doesn't mean you're actually an above average defender. The problem here is that you're so in love with your mancrush that you can't see straight.

[TheMan]

ThePunchingBag gettin worked over as usual

Shut up, you contribute nothing but racist shit and low IQ posts.

[Hey Yo]

Shut up, you contribute nothing but racist shit and low IQ posts.

Low IQ is thinking that being voted for the All-star game is better on a resume' than being named All-NBA on either end of the floor.

That would be you, chico.

[RRR3]

TheMan complains about racism but then ends up being buddy buddy with racists in the political forum. No integrity.

[1987_Lakers]

Yes I am, you're saying he's a good defender, I'm saying he's not, the fact he hasn't made any All Defensive teams in quite a while supports my argument. Anyone can cheery pick a few good defensive moments here and there, that doesn't mean you're actually an above average defender. The problem here is that you're so in love with your mancrush that you can't see straight.

There are 450 players in the NBA, only 10 of them make all-defensive teams each year, you are basically saying if you don't make the All-defensive team, you can't play defense. Your arguments don't support a damn thing. :facepalm


I gave you video evidence of him playing defense that year and gave you facts that he got votes for the all-defensive team when you asked, you gave nothing to support your argument that he didn't play defense in 2020 and you just kept moving the goal posts after I destroyed your weak points.

Hold the L on move on. The more you post on the subject, the dumber you look.

[TheMan]

TheMan complains about racism but then ends up being buddy buddy with racists in the political forum. No integrity.

Who am I buddies with that are racists scumbags like Hey Yo? Are you proud that that hillbilly is part of your Bronie crew?

[TheMan]

There are 450 players in the NBA, only 10 of them make all-defensive teams each year, you are basically saying if you don't make the All-defensive team, you can't play defense. Your arguments don't support a damn thing. :facepalm


I gave you video evidence of him playing defense that year and gave you facts that he got votes for the all-defensive team when you asked, you gave nothing to support your argument that he didn't play defense in 2020 and you just kept moving the goal posts after I destroyed your weak points.

Hold the L on move on. The more you post on the subject, the dumber you look.

No, LeBron James isn't a good defender anymore. He was, but no longer is. Deal with it.

[1987_Lakers]

No, LeBron James isn't a good defender anymore. He was, but no longer is. Deal with it.

What a weak ass response, lmao.

I own you.

[RRR3]

Who am I buddies with that are racists scumbags like Hey Yo? Are you proud that that hillbilly is part of your Bronie crew?
No I have him on ignore for being a racist scumbag.

You are buddy buddy with known racists like chewing in the political forum don’t lie :facepalm

[TheMan]

What a weak ass response, lmao.

I own you.

Only in your mind, bro...only in your mind. :cheers:

[TheMan]

No I have him on ignore for being a racist scumbag.

You are buddy buddy with known racists like chewing in the political forum don’t lie :facepalm

Is that why I did a permaban bet with him when Trump lost (which he hasn't honored nor will he ever)? You don't try to permaban ISH buddies :confusedshrug:

[Hey Yo]

Who am I buddies with that are racists scumbags like Hey Yo? Are you proud that that hillbilly is part of your Bronie crew?

How am I a racist? Cause I referred to you as nacho man a few times?

LOL @ thinking I'm a hillbilly.

[RRR3]

Is that why I did a permaban bet with him when Trump lost (which he hasn't honored nor will he ever)? You don't try to permaban ISH buddies :confusedshrug:
You were giggling about killing lgbtq people with him don’t lie.

[warriorfan]

this forum is full of f.aggots

[TheMan]

You were giggling about killing lgbtq people with him don’t lie.

You got me, I admittedly don't like twinks, but that doesn't make me racist.

[Axe]

this forum is full of f.aggots
You yourself included.

[Spurs m8]

You yourself included.

Have another fantastic weekend on ISH, mate?