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3ba11
10-07-2022, 11:31 AM
he averaged 27 on 42% thru 6 games like 96' MJ instead of 23 on 43% that needed Ray Allen to force Game 7.

Lebron actually averaged 16 on 39% thru 3 games while teammates staved off an 0-3 deficit.

Overall, Lebron averaged a pedestrian 25 and Wade 20, so Lebron didn't defeat maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load in Finals).. Lebron also had a zero plus-minus and negative net rating, so the Heat didn't win with him on the floor.

red1
10-07-2022, 11:33 AM
Quatrooooooo


https://media.giphy.com/media/mpB75VlHUWWmIX3WbN/giphy.gif

red1
10-07-2022, 11:33 AM
how are you still going to rank hakeem let alone KG above leGOAT?



you look stupid now!!

red1
10-07-2022, 11:35 AM
for the championship, game 7, series on the line against a certified dynasty (not the hornacek and stockton jazz)



no pushoff required:

https://nesn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/lebron-dagger.gif

red1
10-07-2022, 11:36 AM
I have free time today so I'm trolling your ass


I start partying at around 3pm

RRR3
10-07-2022, 11:44 AM
“If”? LeBron DID win the 13 finals. Are you losing your grip on reality?

SouBeachTalents
10-07-2022, 11:48 AM
instead of 23 on 43%
Here are your top 10 players career Finals averages

Kobe: 25 on 41%
Bird: 23 on 46%
Russell: 16 on 46%
Dirk: 24 on 40%
Duncan: 21 on 49%
Kawhi: 20 on 50%


Lebron actually averaged 16 on 39%
Kobe & Bird literally won titles averaging this.

red1
10-07-2022, 11:48 AM
“If”? LeBron DID win the 13 finals. Are you losing your grip on reality?

in hindsight that 2013 spurs team was absolutely ****ing stacked

danny green set the finals 3 point record, only broken by steph. he was shooting FAR better than ray allen. all series. :roll:


kawhi already hit his potential as an elite defender at the age of 22, literally better than any defender jordan ever went up against. and no, please dont bring up 6'1 gary payton 3ball.

3ba11
10-07-2022, 11:52 AM
“If”? LeBron DID win the 13 finals. Are you losing your grip on reality?


In 6 games

I fixed the title

Wally450
10-07-2022, 12:32 PM
Dude is so triggered by LeBron, that he's making threads about how he could've won a Finals series in 6 games instead of 7.

You can't make this shit up.

Ne 1
10-07-2022, 01:01 PM
Michael Jordan would’ve beat the ‘95 Magic if he didn’t get ripped.

Axe
10-07-2022, 01:36 PM
1-9

Full Court
10-07-2022, 08:05 PM
If Lebron wasn't a notorious choker, he wouldn't have an abysmal finals record.

22-33 :lol

SouBeachTalents
10-07-2022, 08:10 PM
If Lebron wasn't a notorious choker, he would have an abysmal finals record.

22-33 :lol
If he wasn't a choker, he'd have an abysmal record, meaning if he was a choker, he'd have a good record?

Axe
10-07-2022, 08:11 PM
If he wasn't a choker, he'd have an abysmal record, meaning if he was a choker, he'd have a good record?
:yaohappy:

Full Court
10-07-2022, 08:11 PM
Should have been "wouldn't have an abysmal finals record."

I edited it for you. ;)

3ba11
10-09-2022, 07:09 PM
Dude is so triggered by LeBron, that he's making threads about how he could've won a Finals series in 6 games instead of 7.

You can't make this shit up.


Thru 6 games, Lebron's 23 on 43% was insufficient and needed Ray to force Game 7, while MJ's worst from the 96' Finals would've been sufficient (27 on 42%)

Does that make sense?... :confusedshrug:

So Lebron was insufficient thru 6 games, while MJ's worst would've been sufficient.

SouBeachTalents
10-09-2022, 07:14 PM
Here are your top 10 players career Finals averages

Kobe: 25 on 41%
Bird: 23 on 46%
Russell: 16 on 46%
Dirk: 24 on 40%
Duncan: 21 on 49%
Kawhi: 20 on 50%


Kobe & Bird literally won titles averaging this.
No response for this :lol

3ba11
10-09-2022, 07:25 PM
No response for this :lol


Thru 6 games, Lebron couldn't win averaging those numbers, which proves his brand of ball was inferior to guys that won with those numbers

So your numbers support the brand of ball case and theory

It isn't just about the numbers, it's about the WAY a player gets those numbers that affects the entire team performance (brand of ball, i.e. ball-domination vs ball movement and the effect on teammate performance and development, aka organic capacity)

SouBeachTalents
10-09-2022, 07:52 PM
Thru 6 games, Lebron couldn't win averaging those numbers, which proves his brand of ball was inferior to guys that won with those numbers

So your numbers support the brand of ball case and theory

It isn't just about the numbers, it's about the WAY a player gets those numbers that affects the entire team performance (brand of ball, i.e. ball-domination vs ball movement and the effect on teammate performance and development, aka organic capacity)
Says the guy who claims dozens of inferior players > Pippen based solely on numbers :lol

And bases the notion of maximum defensive attention also solely on numbers, arguing guys like Kareem & Shaq didn't receive maximum defensive attention based off what their 2nd option averaged.

Axe
10-09-2022, 07:55 PM
Thru 6 games, Lebron couldn't win averaging those numbers, which proves his brand of ball was inferior to guys that won with those numbers

So your numbers support the brand of ball case and theory

It isn't just about the numbers, it's about the WAY a player gets those numbers that affects the entire team performance (brand of ball, i.e. ball-domination vs ball movement and the effect on teammate performance and development, aka organic capacity)
1991 finals pippen > 2000 finals kobe :kobe:

3ba11
10-09-2022, 08:12 PM
Says the guy who claims dozens of inferior players > Pippen based solely on numbers :lol





1st options dictate brand of ball - the team must play in a way that suits the 1st option or that the 1st option can handle/agree to

otoh, secondary or tertiary players can be compared purely on production rate basis because that's what they are - cogs in the wheel or production machines that support the brand of ball dictated by the 1st option

this is bball 101






And bases the notion of maximum defensive attention also solely on numbers, arguing guys like Kareem & Shaq didn't receive maximum defensive attention based off what their 2nd option averaged.





Kareem and Shaq had one-off's that confirmed they generally couldn't carry the scoring load and needed all-time scoring help - Shaq needed prime Penny, Kobe, Wade and Lebron - that's the most scoring help ever because his shit brand of ball got swept twice by the Jazz and once by the 99' Spurs... And once by the Rockets and upset by the Pistons..

Btw, it's intuitive... Kobe was on the scouting report because his peak capability was worthy of preparing for... Otoh, Pippen was the only 90's sidekick that wasn't a 1b - the only guy that wasn't capable of elite stats, so he had the lowest peak capability (wasn't on the scouting report), which forced MJ to defeat maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load)

Lee
10-09-2022, 08:45 PM
Lebron has always been a slow starter in the NBA playoffs series. And gets better in games 6 & 7.